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oaristos 19th September 2016 07:46 PM

I loved the arrangements for evolution! :heart I just watched the whole things and I'm so happy she delivered such good performances.

js_surrealism 19th September 2016 08:15 PM

I hate to say this but Ayu's performance cannot be compared with Hikki's in this instance. One was restrained and quietly powerful, the other one was ... well we've all seen the other one.

Also interesting how for a show with such ~mainstream appeal~ meant for the public who are clearly all idiots and only interested in ~MEGA~ hits, one chooses to perform something off her new album, and the other, songs that are over 10 years old

BlackSilence 19th September 2016 08:24 PM

I frankly don't get why people want to compare the two at all. They both have individual vocals, that sound nothing alike.

Cahz- 19th September 2016 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by js_surrealism (Post 3215889)
I hate to say this but Ayu's performance cannot be compared with Hikki's in this instance. One was restrained and quietly powerful, the other one was ... well we've all seen the other one.

Also interesting how for a show with such ~mainstream appeal~ meant for the public who are clearly all idiots and only interested in ~MEGA~ hits, one chooses to perform something off her new album, and the other, songs that are over 10 years old

:rolleyes Sakura Nagashi is well-known, it was released almost 4 years ago, it did quite well in charts and was part of Evangelion's last movie ost. It's not a brand new song for japanese people.

js_surrealism 19th September 2016 08:29 PM

^You mean, just like about 80% of Ayu's discography?

kotora 19th September 2016 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ayuinh.k? (Post 3215803)
i wonder how many different colours of that a-nation 16 outfit she has LOL

She bought all the same outfit in the world with different colour, nobody else can have the same outfit but only her.

LOL

Cahz- 19th September 2016 08:40 PM

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Sakura Nagashi was certified platinum for downloads, when was the last time Ayu got one of that for her new songs?
80% of Ayu discography were hits? Maybe in 2010, not in 2016.

stepYOU1234 19th September 2016 08:46 PM

I know I wanted M performed but the vocals weren't great. Evolution actually really worked though. I prefer the A Nation dress in black. And Ayu looks amazing. She looks like she did when Evolution was released!!

js_surrealism 19th September 2016 08:49 PM

Okay......so why not perform one of those other songs instead of SEASONS/M/Evolution?

I mean, look. If you want to play the "crowdpleasing" argument, then be consistent and recognise that Sakura Nagashi has got nothing in terms of public awareness compared to First Love or Can You Keep a Secret or Hikari.

If you want to play the "it sold xxxxx therefore its popular" card, then it's equally reasonable for a fan to want Ayu to perform something else apart from Seasons, M, and Evolution.

ALL I am saying is:
1. She still makes good new music - why not have the confidence to perform it?
2. Her current voice makes songs like SEASONS sound like shit (my opinion, obvs) - why not perform another one of her hits? It's not like I'm hoping she'd perform Ever Free -_-

I don't think that's an unreasonable expectation as a fan.

Corvina 19th September 2016 08:50 PM

M was shaky vocally, SEASONS and evolution were better.
Overall quite nice.
But I do think evolution doesn't fit in a music show, was a bit awkward to watch. Also all that dancers again and that breakdown with Ode to Joy...wonder why.

And btw. don't know, how she manages it, but even with those high heels she still looks short in that dress, lol.

Cahz- 19th September 2016 08:59 PM

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Do not compare Ayumi with other female artists if she doesn't fulfill your expectations as a fan. This post you just wrote is different from the first, here you are actually saying what you expect, why, etc. But the first post you wrote was conflictive. That's all.

Andrenekoi 19th September 2016 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by js_surrealism (Post 3215889)
I hate to say this but Ayu's performance cannot be compared with Hikki's in this instance. One was restrained and quietly powerful, the other one was ... well we've all seen the other one.

Also interesting how for a show with such ~mainstream appeal~ meant for the public who are clearly all idiots and only interested in ~MEGA~ hits, one chooses to perform something off her new album, and the other, songs that are over 10 years old

Hikki has sounded really bad while being restrained and quiet before. Even because this is the rote she usually takes while performing ballads.

I just said they both are singing better than their history as live singers makes me expect, this isn't even comparing both to each other. ;)

Aokani 19th September 2016 09:31 PM

I was positively surprised with SEASONS. I liked the way she sang it, she sounded confident, not fragile.
I like fragile too, I just find it very interesting that her voice and singing technique has changed so much during the years.

oaristos 19th September 2016 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by js_surrealism (Post 3215903)

ALL I am saying is:
1. She still makes good new music - why not have the confidence to perform it?

There's nothing to do with confidence. Performances are not only used to help artists promote their releases, but they are mostly used by TV channels to drag viewers (and that's exactly the point in special episodes where singers only perform their biggest hits). In the end, it's all about how any people are watching the show and how much money the channel is making. "FLOWER" on Music Station was an exception.

Ayu doesn't sell that much nowadays, so people are not interested in watching performances of unknown songs, therefore the channel is not going to allow her to sing whichever song she wants. That's why she mostly appears on TV on special occasions because there's the opportunity for her to sing her same old songs. I'm sorry but, as a fan, you should have accepted long ago that Ayu is not going to be promoted/promote herself as she used to back in 2009.

Ryusei 19th September 2016 10:07 PM

Loved the performances and so glad she didn't only get a 2:30 part

Diego-kun 19th September 2016 10:30 PM

The performance was really good!! It's undeniable that she sounded shaky during M chorus but SEASONS and evolution were amazing. I hadn't enjoyed a performance of evolution in years but I love this one and specially the classical music before the bridge.

Please stop complaining about Ayu always singing the same songs. These specials are made for artists to perform their hits and songs that are popular for all audiences. If you wanna watch other stuff you have her concerts (Arena, CDL, TA, a-nation) where she always changes the setlist. Seiko Matsuda has released more than 50 albums and she always performs Akai Sweet Pea or Anata ni Aitakute on TV and the first one is 33 years old...

~angel*ayumi~ 19th September 2016 10:32 PM

Anyone has the talk parts as download link?

AyuCanada 19th September 2016 10:34 PM

I think Ayu And Hikki both did well and delivered really authentic performances. I also think it is useless to compare them because they both had success in the same decade.

Refix 19th September 2016 10:53 PM

Decent performance, nice costume. That's all.

EndOfTheWorld 19th September 2016 10:57 PM

I wasn't able to see Ayu or Utada because of the time difference sadly.:(
But I was able to watch most of the beginning of the show. I was happy when they showed Seiko Matsuda performing Akai Sweet Pea. I also remember them showing Glay a little bit.:heart
After seeing both Ayu and Utada perform, I think they both were awesome.:inlove
I think Ayu was mostly consistent vocally, a few dips here and there but I think she did well. I think it will have a positive impact on her career and image.:yes
She looked great too. The white dress is my favorite.
If I had to criticize something, it would be the evolution portion. I thought the violin thing was awkward as well as the random classical music breakdown/interlude. The dancers weren't really needed either, it would have been nice if Ayu was the one star of the show. The kanariya make up was also strange to me. Why was it used? Ayu always wants to ignore everything kanariya related but randomly it appears now? Not a bad thing but has me wondering.
I wish Utada could have been there in person so they could be reunited.:heart
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