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truehappiness 19th March 2008 06:57 AM

It's definitely a good thing that Ayu's lyrics actually mean something. :D~

milky_way 19th March 2008 06:59 AM

Wow, that was an interesting read :yes *goes to watch the PV again*

Love Appears 19th March 2008 07:00 AM

:roflmao:smitten:clapclap

Heh. I told him he was insane(ly genius).

Neo Daydream 19th March 2008 07:01 AM

AWESOME analysis, Idealist.

Thanks alot! ^^

FoObY 19th March 2008 07:16 AM

You single-handedly changed most people's views about this PV. Very impressive :D

It would be even more effective if the environment was shot in a slight tint of green instead of blue. In the movie, the alternate dimension was shot in tints/shades of green to reflect the artificial electronic world, whereas the real world was shot in blue. In that sense, the PV's color scheme would contradict the connection to The Matrix, but I agree with everything else for the most part.

qwerty 19th March 2008 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Love Appears (Post 1378653)
:roflmao:smitten:clapclap

Heh. I told him he was insane(ly genius).

:D Your boyfriend wrote a fantastic analysis! It was something close to soy's comments that the Ayus represent different aspects relating to Ayu. It made the PV much clearer to me, and it's very well thought-out. Great job, Idealist! :thumbsup

majrakun 19th March 2008 07:26 AM

At the beginning it sort of reminded of "Pride" PV...because she was walking..and ONLY walking, while singing the song. I don't know, I don't really find the "wow" factor in it. But still, she looks pretty, and I like looking at her in the lingerie-ish outfit, pity it wasn't shown that much! Also her in the phone booth...*ideas rushing in*

EDIT: I just read the analysis. Hahaha, awesooome! This is why we need interpretors for every Ayu PV. It changes our minds. XD Man, Ayu, you just had to create complicated videos for us..to stimulate our minds?

bondingo 19th March 2008 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Neo Daydream (Post 1378587)
I don't like skanky Ayu.
If I wanted to see that, I'd watch Koda Kumi or some whorish American artist lol

Wow, you're very close minded. Since when does wearing lingerie (and in a tasteful manner, might I add), make someone a skank?

Tasked 19th March 2008 07:33 AM

Idealist, you are awesome! I said in this thread that there is some weird perfect relation between Ayu's lyrics, the instruments/effects used and the video clip. And you explained exactly what I meant by that! Thanks a whole lot for taking the time! This video is extremely good

zoomzoom 19th March 2008 07:39 AM

idealist, very interesting and clever analysis and interpretation combined with her lyrics. It does make you wonder if the PV is really that random.

However, as clever as it is, I can't help but wonder if you're bringing sense out of nonsense. It's like sometimes when I have to do a philosophical analysis of a book, poem or whatever.. sometimes I just think "you know, what if the writer was just writing nonsense crap, thinking that people might get all sorts of meanings and sense out of it anyway".

I do hope you saw what they intended people to see though, that certainly brings the PV to a whole new level.

bondingo 19th March 2008 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by zoomzoom (Post 1378695)
However, as clever as it is, I can't help but wonder if you're bringing sense out of nonsense. It's like sometimes when I have to do a philosophical analysis of a book, poem or whatever.. sometimes I just think "you know, what if the writer was just writing nonsense crap, thinking that people might get all sorts of meanings and sense out of it anyway".

I ALWAYS think the same thing when I have to analyze poems and books. That's so funny that you feel the same way.

I hope idealist's brilliant explanation is what the PV was actually intended to be, because it's fantastically deep and powerful. It really makes the video perhaps her deepest yet. I loved it from the first view though.

Ayumiko 19th March 2008 07:45 AM

I hope somebody will sub the pv so I can watch it with the lyrics...maybe I will like the pv more after.

truehappiness 19th March 2008 07:47 AM

Love Appears actually subbed it.

The subs are softsubs though.. they're in the download thread I think or this one..?

Love Appears 19th March 2008 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ayumiko (Post 1378704)
I hope somebody will sub the pv so I can watch it with the lyrics...maybe I will like the pv more after.

I provided subs in this post. ;)

zoomzoom 19th March 2008 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bondingo (Post 1378700)
I ALWAYS think the same thing when I have to analyze poems and books. That's so funny that you feel the same way.

Haha, I said that to other people and they were like "what are you talking about :shakehead"

The analysis made me like the PV even more, though I liked it from the beginning.

ayuzlove 19th March 2008 08:02 AM

OMG...Idealist...thats some excellent interpretations of the pV!! no wonder ayu said in Team Ayu Postings 2/23/08 that the music video will be very cool...now i finally understand the meaning :yes

WillofDusk 19th March 2008 08:16 AM

Idealist is my new HERO XD

I LOVE THE PV even more and now it doesnt have the weird factor in it anymore :P

I loved it at the moment I saw it but the analysis just made it better

bluegie 19th March 2008 08:34 AM

Gosh Idealist you're so great! I hope I have a brain like you :yes.

About the ayu being shanky/sexy issue... I'm bad at explaining stuff, but I think ayu has come to a moment that she wanna change her mind, the way she things, etc. Everyone must have been encountering these changes once in awhile. Like she used to think she should always update her image, to bring out the trend while in her early career. Then, she wanna focus on her music, being a more serious artist.

So... now she shows herself wearing that kind of lingerie, revealing her boobs out. But these don't necessarily mean she tries to be sexy. Rather, I think she's trying to be soon-to-be 30 yr old ayu, another stage of her life..

OK... I dun even know what I'm writing.. I know what I'm thinking but I just can't write it out.. LMAO.. :P

FoObY 19th March 2008 08:50 AM

I think the lingerie she wears is rather more conservative in comparison to other artists who maintain a sexual image. I prefer to think of it as sensual and passionate rather than skanky.

Choyan 19th March 2008 08:58 AM

wow lol.... thanks Idealist! your analysis really pulled my thoughts together, I did think about one or two points you mentioned but definitely didn't see it all the way you did but anyway,

It's a pretty interesting PV imo, those high heels were high, 7-8'' ? lol o-o

a few things I want so say too,
the way they displayed the text... doesn't it sorta remind you of something computer-ly? (such as The Matrix 'pro gramme' thing?) it sorta has this "Enter" feeling to it as the words disappear, like... "entering the world" or how a game finishes loading and you get into the game?


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