Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai - You were... / BALLAD information thread [IV]

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I think if the media makes it out as a battle the sales for battle of them will rise for their singles on Dec 16th, like what happened with A Best. Ayu really needs to start promoting You were. . ./BALLAD and it better be good.

I don't care if she gets #1 or not. ofcourse I want her to do well, but whatever.

getting a number 1 single means nothing anymore. singles who sell 20k in the first week manage to get #1 and singles who sell 100k+ in the first week don't.

and if Ayu loses her streak.. so what? it's not like she's gonna stop making music or whatever.
I'd much rather have her lose her streak than change the release date like a coward. but that's just my opinion

but ofcourse I'm rooting for ayumi

Assuming the guy's single was actually released physically because of demand, then its sale shouldn't be too bad. From what I know, he's a well respected person, so... I will really want to see some competition. If Ayu's single's release date is not moved, then we will know just how popular Ayu is now...

Despite being in the business for 20 years , Fukuyama-san doesn't release singles that often as compared to other artistes such as B'z since he also acts & do photography on the sideline but from what I know he had a couple of million selling singles

his best selling single is 2000's Sakurazaka which sold a whopping 2,299,320 copies :thud

so much so that the song was being covered twice

but anyway it doesn't seem that he has a #1 streak going on in him . His 1st few singles never charted to begin with D:

so maybe ayumi's chances to get #1 is quite OK/high ? I don't think Fukuyama-san mind settling the #2 spot

^ +1

dammmmnit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 moth until the release..
I want previews and the coversss!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what the hell is happening, avex? U_u

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2155577)

Honestly, I don't see Fukuyama affecting Ayu's sales at all, just her position. It's not like there is very much cross over between their fans. If Avex/Ayu decide to move her date because of this I'd be pretty disappointed because all it does is just basically prove the point that her number 1 streak - while still there - doesn't exactly have a lot of meaning these last few years. And I would love to see Ayu actually beat strong competition for once and then be able to go "yay Ayu, you did awesome!" etc etc. And honestly, losing the number one streak wouldn't necessarily be the worst thing ever. She can then not worry about it and just release what she wants, when she wants. And at least with Fukuyama it's not like she would be losing to something totally random like Shuchushin (which would have been much more embarrassing). I'm not necessarily a Fukuyama fan, but at least he has talent and has been around for a long time - not just a flavor of the month type of deal. The number one streak will have to come to an end at some point and if it is with this single it's much better this than to the next crappy Hexagon group that comes out of nowhere or something. :)

While Fukuyama doesn't likely affect Ayu's sales, moving the single to the 23rd very well might effect the sales negatively. As the poster above mentioned, it's too close to Christmas. So that's another strike against moving it to the 23rd.

LOL, i was going to write the same ideas :laugh... looks like you won me!! haha :p

Yeah... i mean, it would be kind of lame from ayu to remove her release date... just to keep the number one streak.we all know her sales have (slowly) gone downhill, and the number one appearing on the charts are just symbolic, because her sales are by no means what they used to be. At least, if she´s got all these number ones, she should prove she has the right to hold them. :yes (and show those are not a mere product of marketing)

With all due respect, changing the date would mean that avex is too desperate to cover something it doesn't exist anymore. I mean, it happens to all artists, even to huge names like Michael Jackson and Madonna. and like sunshine said, the fact that she's compteing with Fukuyama doens't necesarily means it's gonna affect her single sales either. :yes

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2155832)

LOL, even though that would be fun, considering that the fans requested the release, I don't know what to think.

I actually don't think that it is a forgone conclusion that she will lose. If it were Arashi, then yes, bye bye number 1 streak. But with Fukuyama it has the potential to be really close. I would say Fukuyama has the edge, but it is not an insurmountable one. So much depends on mitigating factors such as: will Fukuyama really promote it since it wasn't originally planned to be a single release to begin with? How good are the songs on Ayumi's single and how much will she be promoting? Will she have good live vocals or bad ones? Because I actually think that having bad vocals in the lives can actually hinder the sales, not help them. Will the people who already bought Fukuyama's single digitally still want to buy it physically? etc etc.

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2156115)

Yeah, you're pretty much right. Well it's hard to say what is the factor that drives sales the most now days...

I think I would at least want Ayu to break Seiko's record of 24 #1s in a row before giving in. I'd previously thought that Ayu'd already beaten Seiko, but apparently it was only in total number of #1 singles. Here's hoping that this single puts up a good fight if it does go up against Hatsukoi and isn't at all like ARASHI vs. EXILE this week.

^ Yeah, actually I can't believe I didn't mention Arashi vs. Exile before since we were talking about how big artists never go against each other even though we had a prime example of that this week. Both artists are considered at their top right now and the only thing I can think is that Avex actually thought that Exile had a chance at beating Arashi otherwise I can't imagine why they made the release date the same. Arashi really handed Exile's asses to them though. It pretty much drove home the point that right now there is "TOP" and then there is "ARASHI" :)

Arashi is in their own league right now, lol. well, at least when it's for singles. i wonder if their next studio/original album will break that "idols only sell singles" rule. i'm not counting "All the BEST!" in the mix because obviously, it's a best album. :P

but as for Ayu vs. Fukuyama, i'm not at all worried about Ayu losing her streak. it would be nice for her to uphold it, but if it ends then it ends. but i am interested in the numbers!

She'll put up a good fight I think. CDs always sell more around Christmas time, and with the push of beating another artist to stay #1 there, we might see figures we haven't seen from Ayu for years.

i dunno, I feel like if she loses her streak, avex will suddenly push her as far on the back burner as possible.

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Originally Posted by GRACE (Post 2156410)

i dunno, I feel like if she loses her streak, avex will suddenly push her as far on the back burner as possible.

I don't think that'll happen. There are acts on avex who aren't even selling a fraction of what Ayu is who are being pushed to the forefront, after all.

^ Well I feel like the only reason they "care" about her now is because of her streak. @_@ It seems like once it's broken, they'll really have no reason to "care" about her anymore, cause they won't have that streak to hold onto.

Why would they be hard on Ayu if she looses her #1 streak..? Really, they still promote Kuu and Namie like crazy even if they don't have a #1 streak.

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Originally Posted by Tom Punks (Post 2156459)

or maybe they still care about her because she still makes them a crapload of money even if her CD sales aren't as high as they used to be.

avex would be stupid to stop promoting her as much (like they promote her so much now, anyhow -_-') or focusing on her at all, just because she lost her streak. She's still a MAJOR source of their profits.

that's true it doesn't make sense

there're other avex artistes whom avex gave them huge/tons of promo like GIRL NEXT DOOR but their sales aren't hot to called for to begin with