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kagami 26th August 2010 08:43 AM

^Future Classics is better.

Zeke. 26th August 2010 08:49 AM

^Oops, actually it was the Future Classics one I was referring to. XD
I forgot that's the most recent so yeah that's the one I wasn't too fond of. Lol.

EDIT: I just searched youtube and found momentum. I wish I would have given this concert a chance now, I think I deleted the ISO! I'll have to look but it sounds nice! I think what turned me off at first was that I am not a fan of her hair during this period. Lol.

kagami 26th August 2010 08:52 AM

Really? I thought her vocals had improved so much, they weren't perfect but still much better than they have been. The TV version was bad but the DVD was really good.

truehappiness 26th August 2010 10:37 AM

The Future Classics version of momentum imo is a lot better than the one she did during AT07, that's for sure, haha.

Sexylittlethings 26th August 2010 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kagami (Post 2466223)
Really? I thought her vocals had improved so much, they weren't perfect but still much better than they have been. The TV version was bad but the DVD was really good.

Of course the vocals on DVD are better, they artificially improve her voice by removing the false notes and such... That's not exactly a good way to judge the current condition of her vocals.

kagami 26th August 2010 10:59 AM

There's only so much you can do though, especially with things like breathlessness. The fact is her voice sounded better than the last couple of DVD's and they would have done the exact same things in post production.

They sound fairly good in the a-nation fancams as well, with a few bad bits here and there.

truehappiness 26th August 2010 11:01 AM

Quote:

Of course the vocals on DVD are better, they artificially improve her voice by removing the false notes and such... That's not exactly a good way to judge the current condition of her vocals.
Removing false notes? What?

Actually, her voice was pretty much the same as in the TV version except we could hear it a lot better.

Tasked 26th August 2010 11:09 AM

I agree with truehappiness.. They always change the microphone and audio settings, but rarely her actual voice.. the last CDL has had AWESOME audiosettings; but if you listen to her voice; it IS actually good and there aren't actual false notes

love in music 26th August 2010 11:10 AM

I'm just so happy and proud of her for improving. I even sent a message to her in TA about how proud I am of her lol.

kagami 26th August 2010 11:37 AM

^ That's really sweet of you :). She really does seem to be trying hard on improving her vocal condition.

Sexylittlethings 26th August 2010 11:50 AM

Um, no. It's obvious how they changed Ayu's voice from butchering Pride and Because of You to something decent. I don't know how to say this in a less rude way, so sorry in advance, but if you don't hear that you're either tonedeaf or 'blinded' by Ayu fandom. Very tonedeaf. "It's-almost-unbelievable-you-can't-hear-the-major-difference" tonedeaf. Hearing a voice more clear doesn't magically make off-key parts better lol.

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The fact is her voice sounded better than the last couple of DVD's and they would have done the exact same things in post production.
That's a fair comparison, true. :yes

hidekirby 26th August 2010 12:57 PM

They ARE removing false notes, when she goes off key etc...
In fact they change them so as to be closer to the correct note. :yes
You can even hear her singing like a goddess when she is crying (for example untitled for her at CDL 2007-2008) on the DVD version while she is going off key several times in TV version.

They can do that with editing and they are doing so.

njanjayrp 26th August 2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sexylittlethings (Post 2466278)
Of course the vocals on DVD are better, they artificially improve her voice by removing the false notes and such... That's not exactly a good way to judge the current condition of her vocals.

The DVD ver. of Future Classics vocal's were barely edited, the only difference is that, as I've already said, you can hear Ayu sing as the music isn't as loud. Sure there are slight differences in momentum, Because of you and Pride, but nothing really worth mentioning, she can barely sing Pride well for my standards anyways ^^ The DVDs always get edited to a certain extent. Some more some less and yes the last CDL does sound less edited compared to the previous two.

I would suggest you drop the 'blinded' by Ayu fandom thing as it will get you nowhere on AHS. Insulting others won't work in your advantage either.

maikaru 26th August 2010 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexylittlethings (Post 2466314)
Um, no. It's obvious how they changed Ayu's voice from butchering Pride and Because of You to something decent. I don't know how to say this in a less rude way, so sorry in advance, but if you don't hear that you're either tonedeaf or 'blinded' by Ayu fandom. Very tonedeaf. "It's-almost-unbelievable-you-can't-hear-the-major-difference" tonedeaf. Hearing a voice more clear doesn't magically make off-key parts better lol.


That's a fair comparison, true. :yes

I believe that Because of You's vocals were actually taken from the performance from the day before 31st's CDL, or even the actual performance was edited in... When she performed on 30th, the people who went to see it said that Because of You's vocals were really good, and if you listen to the DVD version, it's obviously not even the same vocal track as the TV version... There is only so much you can do to edit a live vocal, and there was nothing they could do to TV version vocals to make it sound the way it does in DVD version.

Masamune 26th August 2010 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by yamadashun (Post 2466202)
thank you fuawas for the video rips!!

the coffin in Microphone reminds me of ever free PV. i guess it's the same one?

oh i want that coffin LOL

I think this can be similar to the performances of the concert of 2000,when Ayu was playing too with coffins & the "death idea" around all that atmosphere...

Luja. 26th August 2010 02:37 PM

just watched the fancams, OMG! Microphone, ASFXX, greatful days and BLUE BIRD were so amazing:heart Loved loved loved it. Can't wait to have HQ videos. Microphone performance had this cool, strong touch to it, and the end was WOW!:thud

auss246 26th August 2010 03:02 PM

A Song for XX (like I've mentioned before) seems to be such a testament to her improving voice.. every year it just gets stronger, it's the one song from way back I really believe she will always excel in! :)

AyUmIXx 26th August 2010 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Luja. (Post 2466418)
just watched the fancams, OMG! Microphone, ASFXX, greatful days and BLUE BIRD were so amazing:heart Loved loved loved it. Can't wait to have HQ videos. Microphone performance had this cool, strong touch to it, and the end was WOW!:thud

i think the fancams we got, are the most HQ ones out there..
we should wait for the a-nation DVD to come out...

Luja. 27th August 2010 12:54 PM

^ yeah, I meant HQ video = a-nation DVD / TV version video.:laugh

Mai82Go 28th August 2010 04:29 PM

Any News from todays a-nation? Since it's the one in Tokyo, maybe someone from AHS went?


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