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Bigtop 13th August 2015 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Damita (Post 3158331)
Really, 30k for a mini-album is a great result! Especially in an Oricon world full of gimmicks (not aimed at DCT, more aimed at the countless K-pop/J-pop idols with their handshakes and entry to events/concerts for buying X number of copies of their single...). I'm not familiar if Ayu had any, but I'm guessing not.

Dreams Come True's best-of sold so well because it is a 3-disc career best-of priced insanely well. 3500 yen for 50 songs! Compare that to 1800-3200 yen for Ayu's 6 songs.

I don't think them being a group is the reason why it sells so well. They are very well respected and for good reason. They're versatile with their music, especially in the last decade. Someone similarly well respected, Yuming, released a best-of that was exactly the same: career best-of, 50-ish songs for 3500 yen, and it sold just as well as DCT's.

The Oricon chart is becoming less relevant. You can't really compare numbers between artists anymore like you could 10, 20 years ago. It went from being like comparing peaches and plums to comparing peaches and dog food. Uh yeah, they're both food...and that's it. So don't be upset Ayu lost to a release so completely different to her. She still had the best-selling original album (mini or full) for the week! Good job Ayu!

3,500 yen for 50-some songs (roughly 70 yen per song) is pretty cheap! At a time when a single iTunes song costs 250 yen...ugh. (>_<)


Now this makes me wonder...from Arama Japan: "Ayumi Hamasaki sheds tears on NHK SONGS; netizens react" - http://aramajapan.com/netizencomment...s-react/21174/

It makes me wonder...did NHK SONGS hurt Ayu's run for #1 instead of help? Because if so, I think we've got big lessons to learn here...

Yumsushi 13th August 2015 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 3158407)
3,500 yen for 50-some songs (roughly 70 yen per song) is pretty cheap! At a time when a single iTunes song costs 250 yen...ugh. (>_<)


Now this makes me wonder...from Arama Japan: "Ayumi Hamasaki sheds tears on NHK SONGS; netizens react" - http://aramajapan.com/netizencomment...s-react/21174/

It makes me wonder...did NHK SONGS hurt Ayu's run for #1 instead of help? Because if so, I think we've got big lessons to learn here...

All of the comments I read were negative...But then her reputation is pretty damaged in the media, and no one is going to have any sympathy for her "running away" to LA since everything that happened to her is her own doing *shrug*

Atleast she's doing ok digitally.

attractive nausea 13th August 2015 07:58 PM

^ This website is full of haters anyway, not only towards Ayu. I don't think Ayu tearing up during the interview has hurt the album sales at all, it just gave the haters new material to diss her, i don't think it had an impact on the general public.

Do you think the 52k something people who still buy her albums are only from her fanbase or there are also some curious people from the general public who are still interested in her?

Yumsushi 13th August 2015 08:03 PM

Its pretty hard to tell who is buying albums, but its more likely that the general public is buying the songs they like digitally, no?

Andrenekoi 13th August 2015 09:36 PM

Get any popstar around the world who is around for more than 10 years and not going through a popularity peak on a space not fully dedicated to them and the comments will be pretty similar... "They were better before", " they are desperate to gain attention", "during xxx years they were amazing, what happened?", " not as cool as this xxxxx newer act". It's just normal.

Meanwhile she still selling better than a lot of newer acts who once outsold her and her compilations top the charts from times to times...

Zeke. 13th August 2015 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 3158159)
lol Bigtop having a meltdown if any artiste he 'supports' doesn't get #1 , epic

Maybe he should change his username to "Bigbottom" instead.

Delicious n Bold 13th August 2015 11:19 PM

^I'm done
http://i44.tinypic.com/34njtli.jpg

Anyway rise up Sixxxxxx rise this is just the beginning etc!!!

RealLight 14th August 2015 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 3158435)
Maybe he should change his username to "Bigbottom" instead.

Dead

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 3158458)
^I'm done
http://i44.tinypic.com/34njtli.jpg

Anyway rise up Sixxxxxx rise this is just the beginning etc!!!

DEAD AGAIN, I LOVE THIS GIF LMAO :laugh:laugh:laugh

brener 14th August 2015 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 3158458)
^I'm done
http://i44.tinypic.com/34njtli.jpg

Anyway rise up Sixxxxxx rise this is just the beginning etc!!!

best gift ever hahaha

RealLight 14th August 2015 12:45 AM

Queen Debora

Magnetics 14th August 2015 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 3158458)
^I'm done
http://i44.tinypic.com/34njtli.jpg

Anyway rise up Sixxxxxx rise this is just the beginning etc!!!

Omigosh, you just made my day! :yatta :ybiggrin:ybiggrin

SpiceSquad! 14th August 2015 10:03 AM

stop complaining if you illegally download the album..

KarenPang 14th August 2015 11:27 AM

Sixxxxxx dropped to #8 yesterday

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-08-13/

Bigtop 14th August 2015 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SpiceSquad! (Post 3158531)
stop complaining if you illegally download the album..

Good point (honestly, I did :D). Also, Oricon doesn't count foreign sales after all...

orbitalaspect 14th August 2015 02:50 PM

Ugh, Jesus.

I haven't found myself listening to this as much as I did A ONE. Maybe another full listen, beginning to end, is in order for this weekend. The songs are not sticking as easily. For example, I keep thinking Shape of love sounds like Will.

melissalove 14th August 2015 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SpiceSquad! (Post 3158531)
stop complaining if you illegally download the album..

I stopped buying her albums as soon as I heard my purchase wasn't being counted by oricon :yes

Andrenekoi 14th August 2015 05:46 PM

^So... You don't support her, you support her chart life? Weird...

stivenoto 14th August 2015 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by melissalove (Post 3158594)
I stopped buying her albums as soon as I heard my purchase wasn't being counted by oricon :yes

Is it a good excuse? Although it doesnt count to oricon, but you definitely support her if you buy the album. Or you can join tenso then, because the cd that send to Tenso still count by oricon... I think...

Zeke. 14th August 2015 07:12 PM

Shape of Love reminds me of BALLAD if anything.

Have you guys listened with headphones? I listened to Shape of Love with headphones for first time and the mixing isn't bad. Strings are spaced nicely between channels.

maxikot 14th August 2015 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 3158621)
Shape of Love reminds me of BALLAD if anything.

Have you guys listened with headphones? I listened to Shape of Love with headphones for first time and the mixing isn't bad. Strings are spaced nicely between channels.

First i listened with laptop speakers and i wasn't impressed that much with songs buth when i used my creative headphones i found depth here and there. Shape of love sounds really really nice and Sayonara also gets more complexity.


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