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-   -   [Charts & Rankings] Rule/Sparkle - ORICON STYLE (http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86689)

SunshineSlayer 26th February 2009 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by walking.proud (Post 1840992)
well.. i dont' know if it has been posted yet... and since some of you were saying that these days ayu is doing really well in legal downloads... I enter iTunes japan and find it:

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4765/rsitunes.th.png

Rule Pv is #1 and Rule is #5 and Sparkle #6... then when I get into de page of the single the next song of this single that is more popular is GREEN acoustic folowed by Days acustic... ^^ Maybe Rule&Sparkle were in TOP on the 25th... who knows...

and then, revising the ranking in "ayu's section" (to see which song or video is more popular of are her songs and albums/singles) is curious to see that the 3 versions of R/Sparkle have been bought more times than A BEST 2, A COMPLETE.. and everything! is the TOP3!! and in her TOP SONGS, rule and sparkle are the firsts, and in videos Rule PV is also the first of all!
But isn't this her first single to be released on itunes pretty much simultaneously with the physical release? (I'm really not sure if it is or not) If thats the case, its only natural that so far this would be her highest selling itunes song. And is the ranking for all time or just the current ranking? If its just the current ranking, then all of that is to be expected. :)

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Originally Posted by a_kingdom21 (Post 1841258)
obviously if it were released against ARASHI,avex would make a huge promo to safe ayu no 1 streak..

n it's ridiculous plus annoying if ayu no 1 streak is broken by any creppy girly boyband..
No matter how much promo she did, she would still lose to Arashi at this point in time. Also, they are the best "crappy girly boyband" out there, so don't be so quick to insult unless you actually know what you are talking about. :P

shineestar 27th February 2009 12:09 AM
hmm second day sales did drop but not too much i suppose.
but it makes sense, people might be waiting to get her new album. idk.
then that would mean, the sales would drop even more. :O
overall its great it got the #1 spot, really. :P

jbrat2219 27th February 2009 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by a_kingdom21 (Post 1841258)
obviously if it were released against ARASHI,avex would make a huge promo to safe ayu no 1 streak..

n it's ridiculous plus annoying if ayu no 1 streak is broken by any creppy girly boyband..
Oh gosh I hope Karen doesn't see that :roflmao

waterballoon 27th February 2009 01:57 AM
^ LOL. But as much as I don't listen to Arashi or any of them, I can't deny that their selling power is CRAZY. Let's hope Rule/Sparkle does well enough this week to avoid getting totally wiped out next week.

AyumiBest 27th February 2009 04:41 AM
At least the drop isn't THAT big. It will get number one hopefully.

jbrat2219 27th February 2009 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 1841447)
^ LOL. But as much as I don't listen to Arashi or any of them, I can't deny that their selling power is CRAZY. Let's hope Rule/Sparkle does well enough this week to avoid getting totally wiped out next week.
Cheers to that mate!

a_kingdom21 27th February 2009 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1841285)

No matter how much promo she did, she would still lose to Arashi at this point in time. Also, they are the best "crappy girly boyband" out there, so don't be so quick to insult unless you actually know what you are talking about. :P
who knows.......:lech

MW boosted up suddenly multiple times......when ayu's no 1 streak almost broken.....:innocent

n i really know what i was talkin about.....:innocent

SunshineSlayer 27th February 2009 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by a_kingdom21 (Post 1841703)
who knows.......:lech

MW boosted up suddenly multiple times......when ayu's no 1 streak almost broken.....:innocent

n i really know what i was talkin about.....:innocent
Have you looked at Arashi's sales numbers? (or any Johnny's group for that matter, but especially Arashi these days) Days/Green had a lot of promo and while it sold well by Ayu's recent standards, Arashi's 1st DAY sales easily beat Ayumi's first WEEK sales. So to say that she would have had a shot against them next week, even with promo, is not in the slightest realistic - maybe 5 years ago or something.

AyuGAME 27th February 2009 06:13 AM
i think 100k for the first week...is an easy target

a_kingdom21 27th February 2009 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1841716)
Have you looked at Arashi's sales numbers? (or any Johnny's group for that matter, but especially Arashi these days) Days/Green had a lot of promo and while it sold well by Ayu's recent standards, Arashi's 1st DAY sales easily beat Ayumi's first WEEK sales. So to say that she would have had a shot against them next week, even with promo, is not in the slightest realistic - maybe 5 years ago or something.
not sales...but single sales...cuzz JE album sales r amazing poor.....:innocent

not really...D/G also lack of promotion.....:innocent

i'd seen all JE sales.....n it's weired........

they have strong single sales...n verry pooooor album sales.....:lech

n who said that ayu will shot against them next week......cuzz ayu usually only got no 1 weekly for just a week lately.....

SunshineSlayer 27th February 2009 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by a_kingdom21 (Post 1841729)
not sales...but single sales...cuzz JE album sales r amazing poor.....:innocent

not really...D/G also lack of promotion.....:innocent

i'd seen all JE sales.....n it's weired........

they have strong single sales...n verry pooooor album sales.....:lech

n who said that ayu will shot against them next week......cuzz ayu usually only got no 1 weekly for just a week lately.....
You said that. You said if Ayu released against Arashi Avex would do a huge promo to save her #1 streak and in reply I said it didn't matter how much promo they would do, Ayu would lose - even if it were the 1st week, she would lose. I was referring to if they had both released on 3/4.

The D/G promotion was not small at all.

And we are referring to singles here, not albums. :) However, the reason why the albums sell less is because, generally speaking, the album tracks aren't worth buying. Arashi's album this year however actually wasn't that bad at all. Maybe they are putting more effort into the album tracks these days.

a_kingdom21 27th February 2009 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1841736)
You said that. You said if Ayu released against Arashi Avex would do a huge promo to save her #1 streak and in reply I said it didn't matter how much promo they would do, Ayu would lose - even if it were the 1st week, she would lose.

The D/G promotion was not small at all.

And we are referring to singles here, not albums. :) However, the reason why the albums sell less is because, generally speaking, the album tracks aren't worth buying.
can u read it again correctly......

i said "if it were released on d same week......." n u said about next week release about ayu go against arashi or whatever...i never talk about sales next week....

cuz enough for me to see ayu maintain #1 weekly this week...

n week later nevermind if ayu get no 2 n so on......:D

i think buy album is worth than buy single which only has 1-3 new track....:P

KarenPang 27th February 2009 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by asongforXX (Post 1840837)
Aren't Ayu's sales always like that? LOL.
haha well I don't really keep tabs on her sales so ya

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Originally Posted by SolarAngel (Post 1840939)
Yeah horrifying drop. Rule/Sparkle obviously doesn't stand a chance against Arashi next week. Heck it won't even stand a chance if they were both released on the same week. Looks like the movie tie-in is doing nothing for the sales.
I think Dragonball Evolution's helping to a certain extent Elaine

considering that there's virtually no promo on R&S , it's quite OK & yes at least it's not released against ARASHI's Believe / Kumori Nochi , Kaisei , that will be a total gone case on ayumi's part :dead2

SunshineSlayer 27th February 2009 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by a_kingdom21 (Post 1841745)
can u read it again correctly......

i said "if it were released on d same week......." n u said about next week release about ayu go against arashi or whatever...i never talk about sales next week....
I had edited my post above, I was also referring to if they released on the same week. (ie. next week, 3/4) Bottom line, if they were to release on the same week - as you suggested - Ayu would get killed in the sales no matter what amount of promotion.

a_kingdom21 27th February 2009 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1841755)
I had edited my post above, I was also referring to if they released on the same week. (ie. next week, 3/4) Bottom line, if they were to release on the same week - as you suggested - Ayu would get killed in the sales no matter what amount of promotion.
just a short comment....

who knows.......:innocent

SunshineSlayer 27th February 2009 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by a_kingdom21 (Post 1841766)
just a short comment....

who knows.......:innocent
People with logic? :shrug j/k

Raleigh 27th February 2009 07:27 AM
Well I'm impressed. This single got almost zero promotion and it's doing pretty well. Plus I'm sure everyone knows about the album thanks to the USB.

SunshineSlayer 27th February 2009 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk (Post 1841782)
Well I'm impressed. This single got almost zero promotion and it's doing pretty well. Plus I'm sure everyone knows about the album thanks to the USB.
Yeah, while obviously the sales could still be better, these really aren't bad at all considering the lack of promotion. I just hope that this doesn't deter her from doing promo in the future.

a_kingdom21 27th February 2009 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1841768)
People with logic? :shrug j/k
What logical,what practical,what d hell who cares..

hohohoho...
;-)

Raleigh 27th February 2009 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1841797)
Yeah, while obviously the sales could still be better, these really aren't bad at all considering the lack of promotion. I just hope that this doesn't deter her from doing promo in the future.
Yeah if she did promote it more, it would've obviously sold much better. I also do hope this is more of an exception and that she didn't promote this single because she was busy with her album.


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