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cdy2010 18th July 2010 02:58 PM

It seems to me that AVEX sort of rushed the 50th single anyway. With the right hype and the right promotion, Moon/Blossom, Crossroad and the 50th single could've reached atleast 100k the first week, cause this is a big milestone.

But it seems that AVEX isn't interested in high sales or anything, but more to just rush out her 50th song instead of making it memorable. You don't just reach the 50th single everyday.

Oh well. :(!

Ranma Matsuri 18th July 2010 03:34 PM

I'm still fairly certain they're going to try to release the next two before the Tour Final.

Yumsushi 18th July 2010 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cdy2010 (Post 2430331)
It seems to me that AVEX sort of rushed the 50th single anyway. With the right hype and the right promotion, Moon/Blossom, Crossroad and the 50th single could've reached atleast 100k the first week, cause this is a big milestone.

But it seems that AVEX isn't interested in high sales or anything, but more to just rush out her 50th song instead of making it memorable. You don't just reach the 50th single everyday.

Oh well. :(!

Pretty sad, no? Its not like her 50th single crept up on her. I would have thought this was planned in advance but everything seems so last minute and I can't understand why. I used to think it was Avex rushing but now I'm inclined to think that Ayumi is fine with it being this way. So, they are both to blame, lol.
Look at Koda Kumi's 12 singles project. Maybe not alot of sales, but an amazing amount of hype and promotion and all Avex!

jbrat2219 18th July 2010 09:19 PM

Ayu herself said she doesn't have time to promote it... so maybe that's why it's not being promoted lol.

Yumsushi 18th July 2010 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2430657)
Ayu herself said she doesn't have time to promote it... so maybe that's why it's not being promoted lol.

I get that, thats why they are both to blame!

love in music 18th July 2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2430657)
Ayu herself said she doesn't have time to promote it... so maybe that's why it's not being promoted lol.

I think you're onto something!

primavera♥ 18th July 2010 09:32 PM

I think they're all just in over their heads. Just trying to do to much. It would be nicer for a 50th single in december. And as far as crossroad. It will have a hard time getting number 1 in august. Espexially the way they're doing things. They need to release it in september

Overall. What ayus planning is cool. But realisticly timing is just ridiculous

jbrat2219 18th July 2010 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Yumsushi (Post 2430662)
I get that, thats why they are both to blame!

I don't think they should necessarily be blamed for anything. The single is still selling well. She'll still get number one. There have been other times where there was little promotion for her releases and they still sold well. I'm sure Ayu knew what her schedule would be like when she decided to do this single project and I'm sure she knew she would have to make sacrifices. Promotion for MOON/blossom is probably one of those sacrifices. An artist like Ayu doesn't really need all that much promotion anyway.

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Originally Posted by identity (Post 2430666)
I think you're onto something!

I know, I'm so smart! :roflmao

Yumsushi 18th July 2010 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2430675)
I don't think they should necessarily be blamed for anything. The single is still selling well. She'll still get number one. There have been other times where there was little promotion for her releases and they still sold well. I'm sure Ayu knew what her schedule would be like when she decided to do this single project and I'm sure she knew she would have to make sacrifices. Promotion for MOON/blossom is probably one of those sacrifices. An artist like Ayu doesn't really need all that much promotion anyway.

I get what you're saying, but I can't agree that Ayu doesn't need promotion. I read what alot of the fans on ahs living/visiting Japan are saying which is that the general public doesn't follow Ayumi or her releases. Avex is simply relying on TA and hardcore fans along with concert goers, and even at that only 30% of the concert sales are counted towards oricon, no?
Remember that boyband that nearly cost her the Mirrorcle world #1? That was certainly not expected. Its impressive that shes selling well without promotion but it just seems like a silly gamble when she's so close to breaking the consecutive singles record.

jbrat2219 18th July 2010 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Yumsushi (Post 2430678)
I get what you're saying, but I can't agree that Ayu doesn't need promotion. I read what alot of the fans on ahs living/visiting Japan are saying which is that the general public doesn't follow Ayumi or her releases. Avex is simply relying on TA and hardcore fans along with concert goers, and even at that only 30% of the concert sales are counted towards oricon, no?
Remember that boyband that nearly cost her the Mirrorcle world #1? That was certainly not expected. It just seems like a silly gamble when she's so close to breaking the consecutive singles record.

LOL. Not aiming at you personally with the following comment, but it's hilarious how some people criticized Ayu/Avex for switching the date of You were.../BALLAD to preserve her streak and now they are criticized for not doing enough to preserve it now lol. Ayu has been relying on hardcore fans for a long time. And sales like these are not sudden, her singles have been selling within the 70-150k margin for a while.

Like I said before, I don't really expect super heavy promotion until the 50th single. Even then I don't expect drastically different sales. You also have to remember that these singles are very close together, fans could simply be picking and choosing right now. Also, she's not doing poorly right now, so in reality choosing to do less promotion now could save up resources to do major promotion later. She still has her tour to promote to hardcore fans and a-nation to promote to everyone else. And, MOON has been promoted since April when the album came out. Fans, and regular concert-goers have had this song fed to them for months now. Just because MOON/blossom is on the back-burner right now doesn't mean they're going to be doing this for the rest of the singles.

Yumsushi 18th July 2010 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2430683)
You also have to remember that these singles are very close together, fans could simply be picking and choosing right now.

Do we have a date for the next 2 releases already? and as for the rest, I certainly hope so.

jbrat2219 18th July 2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Yumsushi (Post 2430692)
Do we have a date for the next 2 releases already? and as for the rest, I certainly hope so.

We only know that they'll be coming out within the next two months.

Keiichi_JPU 18th July 2010 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2430696)
We only know that they'll be coming out within the next two months.

Do we? We THINK they will, but it hasn't been confirmed, right?

(well, I personally don't think they'll both be out in 2 months. Way too short)

truehappiness 18th July 2010 11:01 PM

The 7 days of concerts at Yoyogi were supposed to commemorate the 50th single, but that subtitle was switched out.

(meaning that they might not release everything by then, but it was stated that the 48th, 49th, and 50th singles will be performed at these concerts.)

primavera♥ 18th July 2010 11:05 PM

They just can't come out in the next two months. They haven't even announced the next single yet.
And most weeks she has no chance at maintaining her steak

I would like an announcement soon though.

truehappiness 18th July 2010 11:18 PM

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They just can't come out in the next two months.
They can't come out in August, but September is still openish.

ConiChan17 20th July 2010 07:28 AM

OMG <3 I love the single :) the ultrabad hq haha Great Going Ayu Sounds Lovely!! :)

Shirlaay 20th July 2010 05:28 PM

I hope Ayu comes out with something really memoriable, but from the preview of crossroad, the song just seems to be "ok", there's nothing special to it.

But that's just a few seconds preview, so my judgement might be a bit early, we'll have to wait for the full preview i guess...

I'm hoping she'll take her time and not just release the 49th & 50th single in a short period of time. It'll be like "I'm not done with the 49th single and now there's a 50th??!"

kotora 20th July 2010 11:23 PM

I think they can do something like...

Plan A:
49th single "crossroad" or "crossroad/???" will be released in September.
50th single "???" will be released at the same time as the tour final.

Plan B:
49th single and 50th single will be released before the tour final.

Plan C:
49th single "crossroad" or "crossroad/???" will be released in September.
50th single "???" will be released after the tour final, as like "No way to say" single released. (Ayu performed No way to say in 30th single tour, but the single was released after the tour.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 21st July 2010 01:20 AM

I'll say it again.. September 1st for the release date! lol


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