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roanmy 1st April 2009 03:07 PM

Wow, aren't sales in general extremely low this year?

Max_ZZZ 1st April 2009 03:07 PM

honestly
let's hope for another "mirrorcle"
by the end of the week
12K and 16K! lol

se7entheaven 1st April 2009 03:09 PM

i think this album will beautifully reach 300k ONLY

thangkhung91 1st April 2009 03:20 PM

when is her tour starting? don't they usually sell like singles too and stuff before the concerts?

greenteadrinker 1st April 2009 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 1881693)
top 50 albums 2009

*1 1,212,033 **2,023 SUPERMARKET FANTASY / Mr.Children 08/12/10
*2 *,782,371 **3,595 EXILE BALLAD BEST / EXILE 08/12/03 累計1,726,272
*3 *,399,482 *39,041 レミオベスト / レミオロメン 09/03/09
*4 *,390,136 **2,518 My song Your song / いきものがかり 08/12/24
*5 *,377,783 **2,157 TRICK / 倖田來未 09/01/28
*6 *,377,610 146,114 DO YOU DREAMS COME TRUE? / DREAMS COME TRUE 09/03/21
*7 *,272,444 *20,094 アルトコロニーの定理 / RADWIMPS 09/03/11
*8 *,240,810 240,810 NEXT LEVEL / 浜崎あゆみ 09/03/25
*9 *,240,008 **3,553 シャンブル / ユニコーン 09/02/18
10 *,212,411 ***,*** GIRL NEXT DOOR / GIRL NEXT DOOR 08/12/24
...

Thanks! I think this puts everything into perspective. If NEXT LEVEL can sell half a million, it will be safely into third (with already 1/3 of the Oricon calendar year gone). That's how bad sales in general are in Japan.

aqua_crystal 1st April 2009 03:57 PM

O_o Slight sales improvement today. Nice!!

babamon 1st April 2009 04:01 PM

Great that today's sales didn't drop :) It increased a little XD Hopefully it will remain stable for the rest of the week as well. It'd be cool if she could catch up to DCT :laugh

KarenPang 1st April 2009 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenteadrinker (Post 1881786)
Thanks! I think this puts everything into perspective. If NEXT LEVEL can sell half a million, it will be safely into third (with already 1/3 of the Oricon calendar year gone). That's how bad sales in general are in Japan.

yeah that's true , it just shows that how bad physical CD sales are this year in Japan , album wise

Masamune 1st April 2009 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 1881878)
yeah that's true , it just shows that how bad physical CD sales are this year in Japan , album wise

But how can it be that someone sells 1.200.000!!!I canīt believe it!!!

SolarAngel 1st April 2009 06:55 PM

Why can't ayu be recession proof like mr. children? On a brighter note, her sales did not decline n here's to 500k... Hoping's for free.

jbrat2219 1st April 2009 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SolarAngel (Post 1881954)
Why can't ayu be recession proof like mr. children?

Awww! Probably because she's a diva. Not in a bad sense but you know how Japan loves down to earth people. They don't get to see that side of her much anymore.

joshohhhhh 1st April 2009 10:45 PM

I think if she did more interviews and fun things, people would see her as one of the people and might like her more.

SunshineSlayer 1st April 2009 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenteadrinker (Post 1881786)
Thanks! I think this puts everything into perspective. If NEXT LEVEL can sell half a million, it will be safely into third (with already 1/3 of the Oricon calendar year gone). That's how bad sales in general are in Japan.

Gotta disagree there. The sales above her really aren't that weak. In fact many of the artists above her are selling better than they usually do. The only ones on that list that are selling less than expected are Ayu and Koda. The fact that she is only number 8 on the annual chart this early in the year, likely means that by the end of the year she will be lucky if she is even in the top 10.

And half a million? It would take a serious miracle for it to even come close to that.

ayumisrael 1st April 2009 11:12 PM

I still have my hope for the USB's encore version that will be shipped on the 7th and the second one that will be shipped on the 23rd.
If both together can get an extra 30,000-50,000 it will be great.
We will see on next week's Wenesday how much it helped (the first encore press).

SunshineSlayer 1st April 2009 11:15 PM

^ Yeah. Do we know how many were produced? I can't imagine many people beyond the first 10,000 or so that would be willing to pay that amount of money.

~Inori~ 1st April 2009 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masamune (Post 1881936)
But how can it be that someone sells 1.200.000!!!I canīt believe it!!!

Here's a chart, from JPM. Notice how their album debuted with 707,763 for it's first week.

01주 2008/12/22 01위 707,763 장 (누계 : 707,763 장)
02주 2008/12/29 --위 177,581 장 (누계 : 885,344 장)
03주 2009/01/05 01위 ---.--- 장 (누계 : ---.--- 장)
04주 2009/01/12 04위 166,095 장 (누계 : 1,051,439 장)(2주합산)
05주 2009/01/19 02위 049,653 장 (누계 : 1,101,092 장)
06주 2009/01/26 02위 036,234 장 (누계 : 1,137,326 장)
07주 2009/02/02 04위 019,622 장 (누계 : 1,156,948 장)
08주 2009/02/09 09위 014,711 장 (누계 : 1,171,659 장)
09주 2009/02/17 13위 009,215 장 (누계 : 1,180,874 장)
10주 2009/02/24 15위 008,352 장 (누계 : 1,189,226 장)
11주 2009/03/03 23위 005,784 장 (누계 : 1,195,010 장)
12주 2009/03/10 37위 005,097 장 (누계 : 1,200,107 장)
13주 2009/03/17 48위 003,652 장 (누계 : 1,203,759 장)
14주 2009/03/24 44위 003,604 장 (누계 : 1,207,363 장)
15주 2009/03/31 58위 002,647 장 (누계 : 1,210,010 장)

njanjayrp 1st April 2009 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1882179)
Gotta disagree there. The sales above her really aren't that weak. In fact many of the artists above her are selling better than they usually do. The only ones on that list that are selling less than expected are Ayu and Koda. The fact that she is only number 8 on the annual chart this early in the year, likely means that by the end of the year she will be lucky if she is even in the top 10.

And half a million? It would take a serious miracle for it to even come close to that.

You are aware that half of those 7 releases are best ofs and that besides DCT all of those were released weeks (or months) ago? I think that you're being overly negative this time. Let's wait a month or so and than talk about the yearly positions.

ayumisrael 1st April 2009 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1882185)
^ Yeah. Do we know how many were produced? I can't imagine many people beyond the first 10,000 or so that would be willing to pay that amount of money.

Nope, it was time limited.
The first press was limited to a certain amount of copies.
The first and second encore presses were time limited and they created as much as the pre-orders they got until the due times.

I do think though that if there were 2 encore presses the amount of people that ordered the USB is quite big, also if in 1 day the first press of the USB sold 10,000 then go figure what is the amount of the encore presses as they were purchaseable for few weeks.

But it's really hard to know.

Mr. Goto 1st April 2009 11:23 PM

Was this posted? It's a chart comparing next level to guilty.

NEXT LEVEL」 VS 「GUILTY
1st week : 240,810 | ORICON's Holidays
2nd week : - - -,- - - | 432,113 [Combined 1st+2nd week]
Total 1w = 240,810 | ~238,562~

NEXT LEVEL」 VS 「GUILTY
1st day : 99,200 | 66,796 = 39,292x1.7
2nd day : 48,318 | 41,235 = 24,256x1.7
3rd day : 24,935 | 31,264 = 18,391x1.7
4th day : 17,208 | 33,785 = 19,874x1.7
5th day : 18,089 | 30,719 = 18,070x1.7
6th day : 20,167 | 34,763 = 20,449x1.7
Total 6d: 227,917 | 238,562

7th day : 08,161 | 32,412 = 19,066x1.7
8th day : 08,939 | 38,170 = 22,453x1.7

-love~ayu~ @ JPM

After seeing this chart I've realized that NEXT LEVEL is doing worse than I thought. I hope this teaches avex a lesson cause I think one of the reasons why this is doing so bad is the rush. In a span of only 3 months she released two singles and an album :/

emi♡ 1st April 2009 11:34 PM

^GUILTY has some wtf sales.


I don't think SunshineSlayer is being overly negative at all. And I'm very sure she's aware of the BEST albums, and when they were released, but I think it's most important WHO released them.

Japan loves those artists at the top. Their sales aren't surprising at all.

I think sales are exactly where they should be...although I think Ayu's should be higher, even if it is a new release. It "should" be at least where TRICK and DCT is at. Yet its not.

Sales suck. Oh well.


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