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adantatu2 23rd September 2015 02:19 AM

You can always trust on Recochoku if you hate Oricon, Jhonnys and AKB48, but AKB48 even without handshake tickets sell well digitally.

Chibi-Chan 23rd September 2015 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by brener (Post 3165412)
i don't get why people get this harsh about akb48, let them girls get rich, ayu already has her million dollar account

Well if the girls would get rich I would be happy for them. But they don't really see any money that comes from their releases. Everything goes to their producer.
And seeing a group of 13 year old girls making a bunch of videos and photos which would be concidered child pornography in some countries or at least here in Germany and an old man getting rich because of them just makes me angry.
I mean, imagine an uncle would make private photos like that of his 13 year old niece - would it still be some harmless fun? Don't think that is any different.
Female idol groups always were questionable, but AKB48 takes it to a whole new level.

pimenta 23rd September 2015 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by brener (Post 3165419)
^ the only thing not sertanejo on brazillian billboard singles top 10 this year was Anitta ^^ and we do have a massive variety of great musicians that aren't sertanejo. This is how business work, ayu doesn't have a commercial appeal since ages, that's why she doesn't sell. The same people who keeps sertanejo owning top 10 here are the "same people" that keeps AKB48 selling millions there.

Yeah, but you're making a comparison between a whole genre with just one artist. There's a big difference there. And it's not really the same people, because the people that keep akb48's sales on the millions are people buying tons of copies of the same release because of the gifts that come with it, which is very differwnt from the many different people that buy sertanejo and makes it popular...

Though I don't like sertanejo either, yuck.

Andrenekoi 23rd September 2015 03:14 AM

Also, I can't think about any sertanejo artist or duo who is kept at the top of the game through bizarre gimmicks... They either get their share of radio hits or have popstar status.

The problem with AKB48 is that their sales number don't match their listeners number.

KarenPang 23rd September 2015 05:08 AM

I don't think the girls in AKB48 themselves are rich & sure they might sell a lot of copies of their singles on paper but since they're so many of them sharing the 'pie' , it does make me wonder salary wise , how they're being paid ?

Are they being paid based on popularity or seniority ? I do wonder at times when comes to the actual dough , how Akimoto Yasushi decides on that since he's the 1 that's behind AKB48

I do feel that AKB48 genuinely have some good songs (like UZA) but I just cannot accept that behind all that , there're just too many members behind the scenes . It's like trying to know and remember all the names of 101 Dalmatians or something :dead2

visionfactory 23rd September 2015 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 3165435)
I don't think the girls in AKB48 themselves are rich & sure they might sell a lot of copies of their singles on paper but since they're so many of them sharing the 'pie' , it does make me wonder salary wise , how they're being paid ?

Are they being paid based on popularity or seniority ? I do wonder at times when comes to the actual dough , how Akimoto Yasushi decides on that since he's the 1 that's behind AKB48

This was in 2011

Interviewer:
So now that AKB songs are so popular you must be becoming rich!
Acchan: Not at all. My salary hasn't increased since AKB become popular
Interviewer: How's that?
Acchan: We don't get paid royalties. AKB members have all the same base salary but we do recieve some bonuses if we get do extra things like photobooks in the interview

I assume they also get paid some bonus when they do commercial sponsor or TV appareances but she only mentioned photobooks

LONJJONG 23rd September 2015 01:36 PM

#195 this week. 409 copies sold, total 42,713...

pimenta 23rd September 2015 01:53 PM

Next week it should pass 43k :D

melissalove 24th September 2015 01:06 PM

Still praying for 45k but i can live with 43k

visionfactory 24th September 2015 05:11 PM

Still praying for 52k

j0tas 24th September 2015 09:26 PM

45k would be awesome... However, this mini-album deserves more, in terms of quality, songs and lyrics is perfection.

brener 26th September 2015 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by visionfactory (Post 3165684)
Still praying for 52k

hahahaha amazing

AyuGAME 26th September 2015 05:42 PM

Sayonara PV youtube viewer almost reaching 1M...let's help it on daily basis...right now it has about 960k viewers. I think it got 4k-5k viewers a day...in this rate, it will reach 1M within a week...crossing fingers

orbitalaspect 27th September 2015 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by brener (Post 3165939)
hahahaha amazing

She could still sell Gold if we each buy 1,900 copies.

LONJJONG 30th September 2015 03:37 PM

#210 this week! with 340 copies sold. Total 43,053 copies!

AyuGAME 30th September 2015 04:22 PM

looks like it will end up closer to 45K

Surreal17 30th September 2015 05:27 PM

hope for 45k
44.9k or 43.9 would be Q__Q

pimenta 30th September 2015 06:02 PM

I'm not sure if it can keep charting long enough to reach 45k though... It's going to take another 3 or 4 weeks for 44k, and I don't know if it can even last this long :(

spanishfan 30th September 2015 06:38 PM

Maybe limited edition in TA tour will increase sales again?

But everyone says Oricon count less copies wich are sold at venues, I wonder what rate do they use and if it's fair enough.

Andrenekoi 30th September 2015 08:29 PM

^The rate is 1/3 of reported venue sales.


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