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Originally Posted by orbitalaspect
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I think people tend to put Ayu on a pedestal, and have for her entire career, because they think she has unique depth as an "artist".
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Yet nowadays Ayu is heavily critisized, by media, fans etc.. Ayu is on such a pedestal constantly being critisized by her fans (which's fine, shall they do)... Well, Namie is definitely put on a pedestal as well then and hers is much higher, people write negatively about ayu all the time - no one gets extremely offended or huge reaction follows. Do the same with Namie and majority of people will feel offended and tell people to ignore this person, because they can't survive reading something negative about her. Besides the fact Namie is much less negatively talked about. Namie is seen as the ageless queen and Ayu? Have you ever read how many Japanese people want her to cover up cuz she's "too old"?
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Originally Posted by orbitalaspect
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I literally cried over how bad MADE IN JAPAN turned out. I literallypretty pony~cried, Katsu. The second week of May 2016 is one of my memorable emotional points in the last five years of my life. I even wrote a lengthy post on the album's thread about how I just wanted Ayu topretty pony~try. I just wanted her topretty pony~carepretty pony~a little more. And at that point, she had let me down with A ONE, sixxxxxx, LOVE CLASSICS, Winter diary ~A7 Classical~, the singles-turned-mini-albums LOVE and again, and LOVE again, and the release of Terminal as a single, and how every CDL had become a preview of the next tour.
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1) it's just a CDL that she doesn't have much time for tbh.
And better this way than nothing. But sure, I understand that you might dislike this, I do.
2) how bad or uninspired you find her recent stuff doesn't matter though. Fact is, she still tours, puts out music etc., if it's good or not is simply an opinion (many liked it a lot for example, many didn't like Colours though).
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Originally Posted by orbitalaspect
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She certainly did when she tried moving to America with Manny in 2010-2011.
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I seriously don't see it with this whole moving thing abd it being an attempt to run away, but if you say so.
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Originally Posted by orbitalaspect
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I can't even tell you how many times Ayu has hilariously forgotten her own lyrics. There are memes. There are memes.
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For me it was more about learning the lyrics in termd of proper pronunciation tbh. Idc if you forget your lyrics once - happens.
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Originally Posted by orbitalaspect
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In Ayu's favor though, she WAS married to two people whose first languages are English, and she did live overseas for some time.
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Yes, she did but before that she already started learning this hard language. And Mannie was from Austria. Plus, Namie isn't forced to sing English (not that it's needed in Japan anyway) but she decided to, most probably knowing how hard it is, so if she doesn't speak English (idk if she knows some at all), well then, nobody forced you but if you try, then please, get some assistance.
Overall, I think this talk is still pretty done and although I appreciate your effort and do see your point, it just doesn't really work for me just like my post won't really change much with you either. I also don't want to create another pointless chain of long posts trying to convince one another and only annoy people even more with it. I don't "care" if they feel offended by what the post itself (my very first one that started all) said, or can't take negative comments etc. but there is no need for anybody to be annoyed by those pretty pointless "novels" (as they call it). I am glad I could express my opinion and that some people took time to read the post(s) like you did (although it seemed that many didn't read it that carefully). I just think that after such conversation, I should be glad I was able to get it off my chest etc. and that I could write about it with people, but I also (like some others) need to accept that me trying to convince the other is useless at this point and it definitely won't be different by tomorrow etc. (besides, ending this could finally stop certain people making certain comments). So having said all this, I'd really like to leave it with that. If people reply to what I wrote above - fine. It won't change my opinion though or make me see her differently (plus I do see positive sides like hard work etc.) and I could see myself, that me replying/explaining my opinion, didn't make much of a change with people either and because of that, it would be stupid to keep replying to upcoming (if there will be) comments trying to explain etc.. I just really don't think there's much to say (for me at least) and thus would leave it with this. I am glad I had the chance to have this conversation but I also know that now is the point to really leave it for me because there's nothing new to be achieved with it, except bothering more people.