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KLJames 4th January 2019 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyuCanada (Post 3293509)
I also think that lowering the key or using pre-recorded vocal for the notes she can't reach, or struggle to reach. I don't mind having the UNITE chorus in playback.

after the tv broadcast of PCDL, ppl caught her lip sync during cute section (ANGEL'S SONG), lip sync no more a choice for her after that, she just having bad voice for live/broadcast, or edited voice in dvd release.

_dandy_ 4th January 2019 10:17 PM

I watched the CDL 2018 concert last night and the one thought I have is that those who say he sounded awful must've never heard her at her worse. Sure, she was rough in some spots, but overall I didn't come out of this anywhere near as shocked as I was a few years ago.

I'm also looking at my downloaded files right now - was there no CDL last year? The previous one I have before that is the one for JtB (broadcast 2016/12/31)

As for the tours, I have Made in Japan (2016), then the two JtB ones that are bundled with the Trouble CDs. Then somebody's TV rip of PoM 20 - has that one been released on DVD/Blu-ray yet? Am I missing anything in-between? I'm a completist :-) and I feel like I haven't purchased anything in a long, long time.

_dandy_ 4th January 2019 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by EndOfTheWorld (Post 3293427)
When she poured the water on her chest and when she was flashing her underwear was more cringe than any of the vocals.

She was wearing a black outfit underneath W's white shirt and skirt, so it's not like that turned into some sort of braless wet t-shirt thing you might expect from..."other singers". And as far as I can tell, the "underwear" you describe her flashing is still part of that black outfit as well (she just took off the skirt for 1 Love).

Katsuyuki012 4th January 2019 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by _dandy_ (Post 3293532)
I watched the CDL 2018 concert last night and the one thought I have is that those who say he sounded awful must've never heard her at her worse. Sure, she was rough in some spots, but overall I didn't come out of this anywhere near as shocked as I was a few years ago.

I'm also looking at my downloaded files right now - was there no CDL last year? The previous one I have before that is the one for JtB (broadcast 2016/12/31)

As for the tours, I have Made in Japan (2016), then the two JtB ones that are bundled with the Trouble CDs. Then somebody's TV rip of PoM 20 - has that one been released on DVD/Blu-ray yet? Am I missing anything in-between? I'm a completist :-) and I feel like I haven't purchased anything in a long, long time.

No PoM18 DVD (so far) and last year there was a concert on the 31st but no CDL

attractive nausea 5th January 2019 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _dandy_ (Post 3293532)
As for the tours, I have Made in Japan (2016), then the two JtB ones that are bundled with the Trouble CDs. Then somebody's TV rip of PoM 20 - has that one been released on DVD/Blu-ray yet? Am I missing anything in-between? I'm a completist :-) and I feel like I haven't purchased anything in a long, long time.

There is the TA Limited tour 2016 TV rip that you seem to be missing ;)

pedronekoi 5th January 2019 10:15 AM

They just uploaded her selfie video from CDL on TA. <3 Hikaru is sooo cute! Love that he's being naturally embracing that he's a femme queen!

EndOfTheWorld 5th January 2019 10:55 AM

Spoiler:
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今日から2019年の旅の始まり🙏

いつまでどこまで行くのかって、もっとずっとたくさん飽きるまで一緒に居て迎えるあの約束の日 まで。



#さて茨城に参戦の皆さん #新年1本目です #めぇちゃくちゃ気合い入ってます #ガッチリついてきてね

#TROUBLEツアー2019
#show24
#Chapter2スタート🔥

Photo by @masayukikamo


Spoiler:
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https://scontent-mia3-2.cdninstagram...ninstagram.com



Are you ready 茨城ーーーっ⁉️🔥


Chapter2の始まり‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

#TROUBLEツアー2019
#show24

Photo by @masayukikamo

EndOfTheWorld 5th January 2019 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _dandy_ (Post 3293533)
She was wearing a black outfit underneath W's white shirt and skirt, so it's not like that turned into some sort of braless wet t-shirt thing you might expect from..."other singers". And as far as I can tell, the "underwear" you describe her flashing is still part of that black outfit as well (she just took off the skirt for 1 Love).

Well if you want to be technical then sure.:laugh
But that doesn't really change anything for me. I don't know if perhaps Ayu was making a commentary on how women are sexualized or if she was trying to be humorous or trying to "enjoy herself". But it didn't click with me. I don't find it offensive or upsetting but I was sitting there while watching like::confused:no.
It looks like the majority of people really enjoyed the show and the only complaint was the vocals. Ayu has had much worse reviews so it seems unnecessary to argue over her voice. It's the same talking points every time. I personally have just accepted that Ayu's vocal performance on any given day simply is what it is. Sometimes it is not enjoyable and other times it can be good. I don't think her voice will return to the way it was.
Hopefully Ayu will give touring a rest after this tour is over and release a full length album later this year.

njanjayrp 5th January 2019 03:31 PM

I wonder how the set list will change and whether she’ll keep some songs. I hope she adds WORDS!

stepYOU1234 5th January 2019 03:52 PM

I kind of read W's performance as a bit tongue in cheek.
The lyrics include "It's your own fault for taking it seriously, you know?" and "Intentionally playing the part of a woman without intentions is also a strategy" which I felt fit with the possibly deliberately over the top 'sexy' choreography

xLuna&1LOVE 5th January 2019 04:30 PM

There is one half of the concert on youtube and I watched the opening part, so WARNING, W, Lady Dynamite and 1 LOVE. Plus I saw Together When... in another video. I was a bit prejudgemental to comment instantly on her hoarse voice. I am not denying that her vocals were strained, but overall I just wanna say how amazed I am by her energy throughout this part. She did really good. I think this CDL is great and everyone who went there are lucky! I wish I was there!
Great vocals ain't it all huh.

Aderianu 5th January 2019 08:41 PM

Chapter 2

01 W
02 Lady Dynamite
03 1 LOVE
--- Show Time ---
04 No way to say
05 Together When...
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06 Movin' on without you
07 Lelio
08 XOXO
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09 We are the QUEENS
10 Survivor
11 talkin' 2 myself
12 Startin'
13 evolution
14 Love song
15 NOW & 4EVA
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ENCORE
~Sorrow Instrumental~
16 Days
17 Feel the love ~ Merry-go-round
18 Boys & Girls
19 The Show Must Go On
DOUBLE ENCORE
20 MY ALL

ddggcw 5th January 2019 09:19 PM

I'm also grudging over Words. That's the best song in the album imo. I know she's more of a legacy singer, but this tour is supposedly held to promote that album.

And I agree, vocals aside, I'm really impressed that she's able to sing all those high energy songs for 2.5 hours straight. I think she was better vocally at the Kyoto show that I attended, so maybe she's just tired at the Tokyo CDL. Just for the record No way to say is a hard song, I tried that song at a Karaoke in Japan last week and it killed me... I think she should just steer clear if that song's out of her vocal range now.

superbayu 5th January 2019 09:53 PM

Arhhh Give me back aeternal!!

Only 2 songs from TROUBLE in Chapter 2..

aliceshields 5th January 2019 10:56 PM

Length 55:42




Cont’l Length 33:40


attractive nausea 5th January 2019 11:10 PM

The fact that she ditched The way I am and aeternal is a scandal.

mi|kshake 5th January 2019 11:20 PM

I really enjoyed the Evolution performance from CDL - loved how the arrangement sounded closer to the studio recording.

rikku1994 6th January 2019 12:27 AM

Idk what y'all talking about she sounded fine, not the best, but it was ok. The show was good, heck much more enjoyable than the last 2 CDL's. I mean the only complaint i have, and it not even a big deal, was the venue. Y'all complain too much.

chocopockymaster 6th January 2019 06:02 AM

Did Naoya show up? That looks like him in the still for the second video

Katsuyuki012 6th January 2019 06:42 AM

^yes, he and Ayu performed ANother Song... and Dream On instead of Ayu doing Feel The Love ~ Merry-go-round


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