Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 3297903)

Than I don't get why are you still here, because she always was like this and always will be

Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 3297903)

Than I don't get why are you still here, because she always was like this and always will be

Originally Posted by Uknow! (Post 3297908)

You don't have any idea about what singing is, how to sing and which things are important when you're performing for a public. If you're an Ayu hater then it's ok, but this sounds ridiculous.

And sorry for the tone of my post, but I can't be quiet anymore lol

Originally Posted by mizuki-7 (Post 3297914)

Older fan turning hater ....definitely the worst...
I must say that Ayu has always been more or less pitchy over the years so fans pretty much know what to expect ... especially since she is deaf.

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3297909)

I don't really get why someone who clearly hates Ayu keeps on coming in here to trash her. Why don't you get a better hobbie, or a job, or something?

Originally Posted by attractive nausea (Post 3297910)

Have you even watched POM 2018 ? There were no props and half of the concert was without any dancers on stage. Her voice was on point the whole time (and it's not just the DVD because i attended the concert twice).

Originally Posted by xLuna&1LOVE (Post 3297917)

Oh, I guess I am the only one who didn't think minkAYuko's posts were hateful.
Strongly opinionated, yes. Like all of your posts are. So I don't get it, why we treat him as if he is an hater/troll.

Originally Posted by Evan Odinson (Post 3297922)

^ To be fair, if you take in consideration all of his posts in every thread related to Ayu he really sounds like an ex-fan now hater, the way he talks about her implies he just doesn't like her at all (as I said, just read his comments on other thread, not just this one) but he's not really rude and this is a forum where we all express our opinions, no matter how bitter they are, as long as they aren't rude towards anyone in particular :think

Originally Posted by Chris85 (Post 3297932)

No, you were not the only one. Their opinion was interesting to read and shouldn't be attacked.

That's hilarious and on point to be honest. I'm sorry that you're getting attacked.

Originally Posted by Chris85 (Post 3297932)

False. It's Ayu who had been lip syncing several songs per concert for years (I don't know if she still does). Farmer only lip synced the first verse of "À force de…", the opening song from "Timeless 2013" tour. She used loud backing track in choruses of many songs in Mylemium Tour, but that's about it. She does not lip sync, even with backing track she's singing over it and numerous fan recordings with wrong lyrics, off-key notes and improvisations prove it. There are also recordings from in-ear monitors.

It's not OK to call people names.

For me Ayu, Utada and Mylene are all in the same category for the most part: beautiful and talented women who write their own lyrics, have an amazing catalog of songs, but are disappointing live singers. They all try to sing out of their range.
They all tend to go off-key a lot, however Ayu is definitely not better, she's the only one who screams, her voice doesn't sound like it comes out naturally, it often feels forced. Mylene is able to sell emotions too, but without portraying Ayu's crazy drama on stage.
Utada's vocals depend on the day, she's hit or miss, sometimes she can suprise me with decent vocals, sometimes she is nasally and out of tune.
Ayu and Mylene were not always that bad. Ayu used not to scream, which made a huge difference and she was better at hitting notes. Mylene damaged her voice by decades of smoking, her voice used to be clearer, stronger and she was actually good at hitting notes.


If I remember correctly you were ranting about embarassing performance of What Is Forever Love. Why can't other users complain too?

Originally Posted by xLuna&1LOVE (Post 3297917)

Oh, I guess I am the only one who didn't think minkAYuko's posts were hateful.
Strongly opinionated, yes. Like all of your posts are. So I don't get it, why we treat him as if he is an hater/troll.

Originally Posted by minkAYuko (Post 3297934)

Nope I haven't but I'll will give it a try! thank you!!

Originally Posted by primavera♥ (Post 3297950)

minkAYuko can certainly express their opinions. I think most of their posts in this thread came up with pretty random and not great arguments that were not based off good assumptions or info, but everyone here has the right to do that and there are many ayu fans who do the same sometimes here, sometimes elsewhere (and for positive opinions sometimes as well). Of course, people can also give their opinion on anyone esles thoughts as well, including obvious agreement or disagreement. Otherwise these would be threads full of opinion and no dialogue.

Speaking in general now, I think for people that clearly dislike ayu now and are unhappy with most of what she does and for others who complain about her character as well (lazy, prideful, dumb, bimbo-ish....all things I've heard said recently and in the last few years by fans), it's best to let them express it anyway so at least we know how parts of the fandom are feeling and can understand why. It never hurt anyone here to listen or understand.

But I'd also venture away from calling any positive response to a negative one "attacking" as I think that word gets thrown around more here than it actually happens (not saying it doesn't, it certainly does).

Edit: to add, I think the diversity of opinions keeps things interesting. It's interesting to see people discuss why and why not ayu could or should do a world tour and other things. I dont always contribute my own perspective, but I'm glad people still take the time to post and contribute here.

Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 3298276)

so looks like she going to change setlist a lot

Originally Posted by xLuna&1LOVE (Post 3298489)

Don't get your hopes up.

Originally Posted by Chibi-Chan (Post 3298727)

In case anyone is attending and thinking about buying the hoody: do it. It's so comfy and warm! I really love it!

Originally Posted by Chibi-Chan (Post 3298727)

In case anyone is attending and thinking about buying the hoody: do it. It's so comfy and warm! I really love it!

Originally Posted by ~angel*ayumi~ (Post 3298761)

I was thinking about buying it but can´t decide of I should choose L or M.
Ayu Tour Shirts fit me best in M, but the hoodie is designed to nrly look like a dress, so I think buying it in L because I am a bit bigger than japanese ppl xD