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alternarist 1st May 2009 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by noidea (Post 1923940)
Well, I think AT07 was bad because it was playback, but even live it wouldnt be one of my favourites and AT08...just tell me WHAT was so special about it? xD it was her standing in fog singing two lines of t2m acapella sounding weird with an ugly costume and not enough fire, also, the costumes from cdl0708 were better...

AT07 was not playback. i went it to listen her to sing LIVE.

i do agree that AT06 was her GRANDEST and MOST EXTRAVAGANT concert ever. AT07 and AT08 were just toned down by A LOT.

noidea 1st May 2009 08:29 PM

then the audio was replaced, its no difference on the dvd anymore/for the people not listening to it live...

and what was extravagant about AT06? it mostly reused things from AT05 xD sure, the screens were great, but aside that there was not much improvement from AT05, they even used the same screen effect in Pride which they used in Moments the year before xD(and in Part of Me AT07 xD) the rain was like the water from At05 and so on...but i really like AT06, even though these things, its her second most favourite tour of mine(AT05 is my favourite^^)

maxikot 1st May 2009 08:31 PM

I don't know why some people find her vocals here a bad ones. I agree that when she started she didn't hit it properly, but very soon after i wasn't distracted by vocals at all trully Oo. What is more I liked them, very powerfull...

truehappiness 1st May 2009 08:38 PM

Time to stick it in the first post!

If her voice is bad, it might be when she was sick or whatever. Awesome opening though.

Andrenekoi 1st May 2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by noidea (Post 1924125)
then the audio was replaced, its no difference on the dvd anymore/for the people not listening to it live...

and what was extravagant about AT06? it mostly reused things from AT05 xD sure, the screens were great, but aside that there was not much improvement from AT05, they even used the same screen effect in Pride which they used in Moments the year before xD(and in Part of Me AT07 xD) the rain was like the water from At05 and so on...but i really like AT06, even though these things, its her second most favourite tour of mine(AT05 is my favourite^^)

I just can't see why everyone finds it reused... asides from the flower... the cute performace wasn't reused (not only about the screen use, but the outfits, the choreography, the theme, the magic trick... nothing with at05)... alterna wasn't reused either... the rock seguiment wasn't anything new, but at05 has nothing like it... Pride... Pride wasn't about the main screen, was about the pillars and the dancers (all the choreography was based on the lyrics)... rainy day is somewhat refreshing 'cause theu finally stay together in the end, but besides that, was a very simple yet cute performace... the end of the main concert wasn't reciclyed too... and at06 has the accoustic part on the encore...
So... Can't see in wich aspect it was equal to at05 (that I really loved when first came out and now think it's a bit boring)

About at07... ALL the performaces where improved old ones... there were nothing new... it was kind of a "best of arena tour"

SunshineSlayer 1st May 2009 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1924141)
Time to stick it in the first post!

If her voice is bad, it might be when she was sick or whatever. Awesome opening though.

I believe it is from one of the Saitama dates (so the opening of the tour.) Correct me if I'm wrong though.

MissElin_ 2nd May 2009 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 1923953)
I don't care about playback :P
and it was interesting to see she starting a tour singing that "creation comes after destruction" in the tour that was meant to be the marking point between her second era and her third era

About these eras... Who counts them and how?
Is it like:
1998 to A BEST = first era,
A BEST to A BEST2 -b&w- = seccond era and
Secret, GUILTY and maybe NEXT LEVEL = third era? Or is NL a new era, a fourth?
Then I have to say... if the third have ended, it was a pretty small era. :P

noidea 2nd May 2009 09:50 AM

I always wonder about this eras as well, I think you can't really make them, maybe you make a era until her peak(A BEST?) and one til now? Or eras for musical styles? lyrical themes? You can't give her eras everybody would appreciate

keikeiaznqueen 2nd May 2009 10:27 AM

Hmmm, eras for Ayu are decided in terms of... musical style, the context to which Ayu writes her lyrics, and probably to a certain extent her sales.

It was quite clear that since I am..., Ayu's lyric-writing style changed from during Duty, so I suppose the first era's ending can be marked with the release of A BEST.

Personally, I would count I am..., RAINBOW and A BALLADS as its own era simply because in Memorial Address we saw Ayu really start to get into the rock genre. :P I wouldn't count her previous ventures because they were still highly themed (like the 'rock' tunes on RAINBOW, or say, something like NEVER EVER.)

Memorial Address - A BEST II can be its own era. XD This time it's more to do with sales and also Ayu vocal-wise.

Secret - A COMPLETE. How does that sound? A little longer than Secret - GUILTY. This era is the "Ayu has deeper vocals but doesn't venture into NEXT LEVEL yet" era. I wouldn't group NEXT LEVEL in with the Secret era. :D

Honestly, the era thing is really subjective. You can count Ayu's "foray into Asia" as its own era.

njanjayrp 2nd May 2009 10:27 AM

^ I think those "eras" are completely irrevelant for concerts. The only thing that's obvious is that Ayu's concerts since 2005 have started following a similar pattern that usually consists of 1) Ayu standing and singing rock songs, 2) a sexy outfit with half naked male dancers and girls with whips, 3) a lovers theme with Shuya with the two always being separated, 4) cheesy pink costumes for cute upbeat songs. Of course every concert had a different order of these and every now and then a new theme would pop up.

thangkhung91 2nd May 2009 11:47 AM

^
Don't forget the prisoner theme from last years and this years tour ;)

tinka69 2nd May 2009 12:00 PM

wow that cheerleading outfit is....oh gawwwd.

wannajoin_Team Ayu 2nd May 2009 09:13 PM

the opening is cool

but is it good to use flash light at such a close distance? I mean, it hurt ayu's eyes
and the way of tour is really really long to ayu (and us)

njanjayrp 2nd May 2009 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by thangkhung91 (Post 1925081)
^
Don't forget the prisoner theme from last years and this years tour ;)

yeah I guess that was used a number of times too.

4ever*ayu 2nd May 2009 10:52 PM

cool video update!

WillofDusk 3rd May 2009 12:48 AM

The opening is freakishly impressive D:

alternarist 3rd May 2009 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by noidea (Post 1924125)
then the audio was replaced, its no difference on the dvd anymore/for the people not listening to it live...

and what was extravagant about AT06? it mostly reused things from AT05 xD sure, the screens were great, but aside that there was not much improvement from AT05, they even used the same screen effect in Pride which they used in Moments the year before xD(and in Part of Me AT07 xD) the rain was like the water from At05 and so on...but i really like AT06, even though these things, its her second most favourite tour of mine(AT05 is my favourite^^)

I meant AT06. AT06 has the gigantic red rose, red ball and birthday cake stage.

Since when Pride has similar effect as AT05?

inspire_rmx 3rd May 2009 08:05 AM

i am so glad that she modified her outfits ^^ Ayu realli do care abt her fans opinion doesn't she. love the new sliver outfit.. my fav of this tour. the altered white ballad dress is really lovely too. i hope she change her in the corner and sparkle outfit as well =P *finger crossed*

noidea 3rd May 2009 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by alternarist (Post 1926030)
I meant AT06. AT06 has the gigantic red rose, red ball and birthday cake stage.

Since when Pride has similar effect as AT05?

Pride uses the same screen effect moments uses after the guitar solo, but you only see it for a very short time because theres no good shot of the screen in that moment, it shows a dancer with the screen in the background i think, but you see that its the same "tunnel" effect

njanjayrp 3rd May 2009 08:20 PM

^ the Moments effect reminds more of the one that was used for part of Me.


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