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bluegie 29th May 2010 04:07 AM

I would rate fairyland as an A grade song from ayu if HAL didn't ruin it by introducing a long painful boring bridge after the 2nd chorus. Seriously nowadays I prefer BLUE BIRD over fairyland just because of that stupid bridge. It just sucks away my excitement from listening fairyland. And somehow HAL managed to make glitter and BLUE BIRD sounds similar to fairyland when actually those songs were composed by different people. Geez..

And yeah, tasuku is really good (probly great) just looking at the list. I admit that even tho I dun like GREEN, at least it has a different arrangement than HAL's recent works.

And Tetsuya Yukumi (the one who composed her works rite? I dun wanna mess up this time).. Again like I said before, I only like 5 or 6 of his works he done for ayu.

truehappiness 29th May 2010 04:17 AM

Yes, Yukumi composes. He has the most songs done (24 or so) out of any composer she's worked with.

I think the bridge works. I love that dramatic interpretive dance-y portion of the song, haha. It makes the song super long, but the song in general is just so good that I don't really care how long it is. I wonder if it was always in there when tasuku composed it or if it was added afterwards to make the PV seem more dramatic?

Crystal_Ageha 29th May 2010 04:28 AM

Oh my gosh, the fairyland bridge is one of the few I really love, hah! Especially when I'm watching the PV, because it's so dramatic. I love how it builds up. :heart

bluegie 29th May 2010 04:34 AM

LOL I guess I'm the only one who hate that bridge then :P.

That's a good question tho TH. I wonder if tasuku composed that part as well..

Ranma Matsuri 29th May 2010 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2372255)
Wow, that's a big mess up, haha.

tasuku's only composition with Ayu is fairyland (which is amazing) haha but he has a lot of arrangements done with her since... RAINBOW?

http://www.discogs.com/artist/tasuku

All of his arrangements are just so... LOVE.

tasuku's arrangement work with Ayu:
* I am... (共同編曲)
* Daybreak (編曲)
* taskinlude (作曲・編曲)
* no more words (共同編曲)
* independent (編曲)
* July 1st (編曲)
* Heartplace (編曲)
* taskinillusion (作曲・編曲)
* HANABI 〜episode II〜 (編曲)
* Memorial address (編曲)
* About You (編曲)
* Will (編曲)
* (miss)understood (編曲)
* In The Corner (編曲)
* tasking (作曲・編曲)
* Beautiful Day (編曲)
* Ladies Night 〜another night〜 (リアレンジ/rearrange)
* It was (編曲)
* taskinst (作曲・編曲)
* GREEN (編曲)

Wow, I really need to pay more attention to Ayu's composers and arrangers so I can be properly excited (when and if) they're announced to be working with her, lol. He's worked on some amazing songs. :love Yuta has a excellent line-up of compositions as well. I'm surprised he's related to HAL (I second bluegie on the GUILTY comment, lol).

These past two pages have been very interesting to read. I've never made the connection between M, F&E, and momentum (besides the whole synth and "build-up" but I figured that was just a part of Ayu's style anyway). It's no wonder I love all three of those songs to pieces, lol. :P

truehappiness 29th May 2010 05:09 AM

Quote:

I'm surprised he's related to HAL (I second bluegie on the GUILTY comment, lol).
He -was- related to HAL. He left the group to pursue some solo work, I guess. (2002/2003 is when I pinpoint his leaving...)

ats- (Atsushi Sato) was the other member of HAL that left a while before Yuta did in 2002. ats- does lyrics (probably when HAL had HALna and was an actual group) and also arranges. He doesn't do work with Ayu though. (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ats-)

bluegie 29th May 2010 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2372295)
He -was- related to HAL. He left the group to pursue some solo work, I guess. (2002/2003 is when I pinpoint his leaving...)

Hmmn, I'm not sure if the English wiki is reliable or not, but it said Yuta left HAL in early 2001. But in RAINBOW's Japanese wiki, it stated:

Quote:

neverending dream

作曲・編曲:HΛL (Toshiharu Umesaki, Yuta Nakano)
インスト
So... was he still in the group during 2002 then..?

truehappiness 29th May 2010 06:17 AM

On the Japanese wiki for HAL, they have February 2003 as when Yuta/Atsushi Sato left.

Bad Google trans+Japanese:
Quote:

In February 2003, an official announcement from the company had no record, but the vocals and Atsushi SatoHΛLNAThe left, the dormant band together as a unit activity. Satoats-Started working as an arranger under the nametearbridge productionMember. HΛLNA activity after withdrawal is still unclear, seems to be in a state of virtual retirement from public life. Umezaki still was far SapotogitarisutoShimizu Takehito(Takehito Shimizu) andNakano Yuuta(Yuta's inside) and restructured Saundopurodyusayunitto welcomed, Ayumi Hamasaki,Tamaki Nami、Aya Ueto、Tackey and TsubasaAnd become involved in music.

2003年2月、レコード会社からの公式的な発表は一切なかったものの、佐藤あつしとボーカルのHΛLNA が脱退し、同時にバンドユニットとしての活動休止状態に。佐藤はats-名義でアレンジャーとして活動を開始し、tearbridge productionに所属。HΛLNAの脱退後の活動は現在も不明であり、芸能活動からの事実上の引退状 態にあると思われる。引き続き梅崎は、これまでサポートギターリストであった清水武仁(しみず たけひと)と中野雄太(なかの ゆうた)を迎え入れてサウンドプロデューサーユニットとして再編成し、浜崎あゆみ、玉置成実、上戸彩、タッ キー&翼等の楽曲に携わるようになる。
I guess they restructured the group at that time? I dunno.

I think HAL just occasionally switched members in and out until people left for good.

Zeke. 29th May 2010 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 2372278)
LOL I guess I'm the only one who hate that bridge then :P.

That's a good question tho TH. I wonder if tasuku composed that part as well..

Nope, I don't like it much either. I listen to it a LOT now that it's Summer, and everytime it gets to the bridge when I'm at work having a cigarette I'm like "ok, come on now" - Lol. I love the little sound effect after Ayu brings the chorus back in softly and then it does this little funky thing and the chorus like POWS back in. But yeah, I sometimes fast forward the bridge on my iPod. Lol.

Although I can appreciate it.

bluegie 29th May 2010 07:28 AM

I usually just skip to another track after it hits the bridge.. That's why fairyland is low on play counts in my iTunes..

truehappiness 29th May 2010 08:56 AM

I could play fairyland for days just like ANGEL'S SONG and Sunrise...

Did you know that Sunrise has over eight hun--- never mind.

AngelSenshi 29th May 2010 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2372401)
I could play fairyland for days just like ANGEL'S SONG and Sunrise...

Did you know that Sunrise has over eight hun--- never mind.

Haha, it's okay, I play Sunrise a lot too :P Though amongst those three I listen to ANGEL'S SONG the most :D (Though that post just inspired something for the chat-room section...)


I really want tasuku back, look at his list of arrangments I think he's definitely got some extremely strong songs in that department, and he also proves to be able to do a great variety of types of music. I definitely think that out of most of her arrangers he's shown that he can do some of the most. Out of the songs that he's arranged, the ones in bold are the ones that for me personally I love the sound of.

* I am... (共同編曲)
* Daybreak (編曲)
* taskinlude (作曲・編曲)
* no more words (共同編曲)
* independent (編曲)
* July 1st (編曲)
* Heartplace (編曲)
* taskinillusion (作曲・編曲)

* HANABI 〜episode II〜 (編曲)
* Memorial address (編曲)
* About You (編曲)
* Will (編曲)
* (miss)understood (編曲)
* In The Corner (編曲)
* tasking (作曲・編曲)
* Beautiful Day (編曲)
* Ladies Night 〜another night〜 (リアレンジ/rearrange)

* It was (編曲)
* taskinst (作曲・編曲)
* GREEN (編曲)

Cherry Dynamite 30th May 2010 12:13 AM

I just hope it'll be a great song, not really liking MOON/blossom based from the previews hopefully I'll like it more when I hear the full versions.

relmy 30th May 2010 02:14 AM

Oh my gosh, every song this guy has composed is epic. SURREAL is my favourite Ayu song. That list is just a list of classic Ayu songs.

I am MORE than excited now.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 30th May 2010 02:33 AM

^^I agree. This should be good.

Zeke. 30th May 2010 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 2372367)
I usually just skip to another track after it hits the bridge.. That's why fairyland is low on play counts in my iTunes..

OMG, you listen to the whole beginning and don't even hear the best part then! The part right after the bridge is the best. Like the last BANG of the track. It's powerful and FUN!

bluegie 30th May 2010 01:16 PM

^Yes, I admit that the part of the long bridge is really good.. I wish there's a shorter bridge version, like the one they used during live. :)

Pieces_of_SEVEN 31st May 2010 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2373434)
OMG, you listen to the whole beginning and don't even hear the best part then! The part right after the bridge is the best. Like the last BANG of the track. It's powerful and FUN!

agree...I love all of fairyland

fantaisie.sign 1st June 2010 07:23 AM

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! So excited to know that Kikuchi is back!

At this point, I have a feeling that the next album is going to be a 2-disc extravaganza lol. There's so much potential epicness involved in all the leaked news we've been seeing lately in order for this to be just an ordinary album. :D

truehappiness 1st June 2010 08:33 PM

http://panasonic.jp/dc/fx70/index.html

There's a new LUMIX FX series camera coming out. It's expected that the CM for it will probably be out in August. (around the same time that the camera comes out)

We'll see since there are 2 more singles after MOON / blossom.

ohsixthirty 1st June 2010 08:48 PM

as long as there's a new ayumi song in the cm, i'm happy. :yes

C+R+E+AYUMI 4th June 2010 10:45 AM

I hope something SURREAL-like to be released

KillTime111 9th June 2010 09:02 PM

interesting interesting, i like how more and more people are using twitter now, hEh.

adantatu2 9th June 2010 10:33 PM

a new cm coming soon

Ranma Matsuri 10th June 2010 03:33 AM

So I'm guessing this means we can be expecting a new CM? In other words, a preview of the second addition to the singles project? :luv2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chibinina4 (Post 2375503)
There's so much potential epicness involved in all the leaked news we've been seeing lately in order for this to be just an ordinary album. :D

Glad, I'm not the only one who thinks that. :D

truehappiness 16th June 2010 10:37 PM

String of Kikuchi tweets that have to do with Ayu:
ご期待を!!ウッドストックに送っておきました〜RT @ayu_19980408: 楽しみに待ってるよん、カズ坊っ♪RT @kazuhitokikuchi: 極上のバラードが出来た!さぁ〜あゆの元へ届け〜who...twoになるかな?... demoの状態だけど

いきなりあゆがつぶやいてビックリした!(笑) 33 minutes ago via ついっぷる

じゃhow...で!(笑) RT @kan_3: @kazuhitokikuchi twoじゃなくてhow...がいいです(笑)w新曲早く聴きたいです(^^)お疲れ様です!! 39 minutes ago via ついっぷる

極上のバラードが出来た!さぁ〜あゆの元へ届け〜who...twoになるかな?... demoの状態だけど、この場でみんなに聞かせたいくらい!(笑)ちなみに僕のマネージャーもめずらしく絶 賛みたいな。(笑)乗りやすくてすみません。。 43 minutes ago via ついっぷる

http://twitter.com/kazuhitokikuchi

The last one seems to mention that he's finished with the ballad track and that it has the potential to be "Who... part two" or something. "I've just finished the first-rate/best ballad!"

He also recently sent the demo or whatever to Kome. (The guy who has a mohawk-y hairstyle in Ayu's makings and etc)

Ayumiko 16th June 2010 11:19 PM

awesome!! who... part 2~

love in music 16th June 2010 11:19 PM

If it really is Who... part 2 I will be soo happy!

maikaru 16th June 2010 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2392444)
String of Kikuchi tweets that have to do with Ayu:
ご期待を!!ウッドストックに送っておきました〜RT @ayu_19980408: 楽しみに待ってるよん、カズ坊っ♪RT @kazuhitokikuchi: 極上のバラードが出来た!さぁ〜あゆの元へ届け〜who...twoになるかな?... demoの状態だけど

いきなりあゆがつぶやいてビックリした!(笑) 33 minutes ago via ついっぷる

じゃhow...で!(笑) RT @kan_3: @kazuhitokikuchi twoじゃなくてhow...がいいです(笑)w新曲早く聴きたいです(^^)お疲れ様です!! 39 minutes ago via ついっぷる

極上のバラードが出来た!さぁ〜あゆの元へ届け〜who...twoになるかな?... demoの状態だけど、この場でみんなに聞かせたいくらい!(笑)ちなみに僕のマネージャーもめずらしく絶 賛みたいな。(笑)乗りやすくてすみません。。 43 minutes ago via ついっぷる

http://twitter.com/kazuhitokikuchi

The last one seems to mention that he's finished with the ballad track and that it could possibly be "Who... part two" or something. "I've just finished the first-rate/best ballad!"

He also recently sent the demo or whatever to Kome. (The guy who has a mohawk-y hairstyle in Ayu's makings and etc)

Here you go!

Look forward to it!! I already sent it to Woodstock!~RT @ayu_19980408: I am really looking forward to it, Kazubou♪RT @kazuhitokikuchi: I finished the ballad one! Send to Ayu's place~~ I wonder if it'll become Who Two?... It's only a demo, but... It's so great that I want to show it to everyone!! Even my manager, who rarely does, gives it praise!! Sorry for this being so excited....

So, let's name it how... (LOL) RT @kan_3: @kazuhitokikuchi Not two, but I think how... is better!! I really wanna listen to the new song!! Otsukaresama!!

Kazeyomi 16th June 2010 11:45 PM

Who... part 2?
That's good :D I love Who!
Even if, I'd like a new ballad not a song's second part lol

truehappiness 17th June 2010 12:49 AM

Thanks a lot, maikaru!

Chessur 17th June 2010 02:35 AM

I love depend on you and Heaven Cant wait to see his works with ayu :D

truehappiness 17th June 2010 07:13 AM

Quote:

おはようございます!よく寝た〜〜。メッセージもたくさんありがとうございます!お楽しみに!!さすがあゆ パワー。。。
-from Kazubou

"Good morning! I slept~~ So many messages of things, please look forward to it! So this is Ayu power..." or something like that...

Ranma Matsuri 17th June 2010 07:50 AM

Sad to say a Who... part 2 doesn't excite me. :( Was really hoping for something more upbeat... but if this follows the pattern she's been using a lot then this will probably be a Double-A side so I'm not too bummed. As long as it's good. :D

truehappiness 17th June 2010 08:08 AM

He was working on another song a few weeks back though.

Perhaps it was an upbeat one he was working on before? Whatever the case is, it seems like Ayu probably was recording the other song that was made a few weeks back a day or two ago (after she deleted the lyrics) and he just finished this new one and sent it to Kome today?

This is all speculation, but it'd be nice to have a Kikuchi-full single after 4 years of not having anything related to him at all, haha.

ayumisrael 17th June 2010 08:13 AM

Yep it seems that those 2 singles are ballad+up-beat deal. ^^

I can't wait to hear all of those songs!! Must be huge *_*

Ranma Matsuri 17th June 2010 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2392802)
He was working on another song a few weeks back though.

Perhaps it was an upbeat one he was working on before? Whatever the case is, it seems like Ayu probably was recording the other song that was made a few weeks back a day or two ago (after she deleted the lyrics) and he just finished this new one and sent it to Kome today?

This is all speculation, but it'd be nice to have a Kikuchi-full single after 4 years of not having anything related to him at all, haha.

I really hope so. It's not really Kikuchi, he composed HEAVEN afterall :love but all the (uninteresting) ballads have just been wearing me down. MOON's awesome but still I'm so glad we got blossom.

If there's a second A-side, I wonder what he'll refer to it as? If there is a God, he'll say it's a SURREAL part 2. :laugh

tokyoxjapanxfan 17th June 2010 08:50 AM

lol, the japanese pronunciation of "who" and "two" put together...

fu-tsu-

sounds like "futsuu" which means "average" hahaha

but anyway, I hope ayu uses the demo ;)

truehappiness 17th June 2010 08:59 AM

She probably will. It appears that they've contracted specific composers for each of these singles.

I'm wondering if CREA+DAI might be on the horizon if singles 48 and 49 are Hoshino and Kikuchi respectively...

Ranma Matsuri 17th June 2010 09:10 AM

^I really think that's a strong possibilty. Getting composers from ASFXX, Loveappears, and Duty on the first two additions of the singles project... I can't see anything other than CREA+DAI being on board for the 50th.

tokyoxjapanxfan 17th June 2010 09:49 AM

honestly, I wouldn't mind something like BOUNCEBACK or HAL haha :P

Luja. 17th June 2010 12:44 PM

CREA return for 50th single.. that's be really special.

ayumisrael 17th June 2010 01:33 PM

I wonder if the 50th single will be something like a 4 A-side single that each song is being composed by a different composer like

01. X - CREA
02. X - BOUNCEBACK
03. X - D.A.I
04. X - Tetsuya Komuro

or something like that. =P If CREA (ayu) will compose for it at all.

maikaru 17th June 2010 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luja. (Post 2392992)
CREA return for 50th single.. that's be really special.

I remember that someone asked her on twitter "Will CREA return soon?" or similar, and she said something like "I'll talk with her<3." or similar. ahaha.

indyplus 17th June 2010 01:41 PM

^That was me! ^__^ I hope CREA will return. ♥

njanjayrp 17th June 2010 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2393021)
I wonder if the 50th single will be something like a 4 A-side single that each song is being composed by a different composer like

01. X - CREA
02. X - BOUNCEBACK
03. X - D.A.I
04. X - Tetsuya Komuro

or something like that. =P If CREA (ayu) will compose for it at all.

Considering that they decided to release 3 singles in 3 months or so, the chances of one of them being a 4A are slim to none.

My guess is that we'll get a mini album in January.

toniayu 17th June 2010 03:33 PM

is very soon for a new cm...u_u

ayunation 17th June 2010 07:05 PM

OMG, i hope he did a cutie song like Beautiful Fighters or Depend on You *___*

truehappiness 28th June 2010 06:39 AM

http://twitpic.com/20mfih

Kikuchi with a really thick musical score. He mentions Nobita-san, it seems? I hope it's for some grand orchestral thing for Ayu. If not, meh, haha.

rusuke 28th June 2010 05:09 PM

^ I want that too!:yes

maikaru 28th June 2010 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2405161)
http://twitpic.com/20mfih

Kikuchi with a really thick musical score. He mentions Nobita-san, it seems? I hope it's for some grand orchestral thing for Ayu. If not, meh, haha.

Yeah it seems he and Nobita were working on it,
Because he says "otsukaresama desu, Nobita!" or so...
It usually is said to someone who you are working with, and you are finished on it.

ayumisrael 28th June 2010 10:03 PM

I wonder how it sounds like *_*

And we didn't get MOON/blossom yet :laugh

Now I'm double excited.
Sheesh.

pommy48 28th June 2010 10:08 PM

Lol now I'm wondering if it's for Ayu or alan...:thud

I'm already excited for the next single and I haven't even heard blossom yet :thud

truehappiness 28th June 2010 10:09 PM

Well, I must say that it's possible that it isn't for Ayu at all since Yuta Nakano works with Kikuchi when it comes to other artists (Every Little Thing's songs from CHANGE had Yuta on arrangement] as well. But... who knows?

Ranma Matsuri 28th June 2010 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2406153)
I wonder how it sounds like *_*

And we didn't get MOON/blossom yet :laugh

Now I'm double excited.
Sheesh.

ikr? Moon/blossom hasn't even hit stores and I'm already clawing at the wall wondering what the next single will sound like, the theme, the covers, the PV's LOL. Getting way too ahead of myself but it's still so exciting.

kotora 29th June 2010 03:47 AM

It is a good sign that nobody mentions "Sweetbox".

Remember Sweetbox in (miss)understood era?

We certainly don't want to see that coming back.

love in music 29th June 2010 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kotora (Post 2406415)
It is a good sign that nobody mentions "Sweetbox".

Remember Sweetbox in (miss)understood era?

We certainly don't want to see that coming back.

If it meant more songs like rainy day, Pride, and Ladies Night... I'd love it.

waterballoon 29th June 2010 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by identity (Post 2406421)
If it meant more songs like rainy day, Pride, and Ladies Night... I'd love it.

or even Bold & Delicious :heart

YA YA YA YA GA GA GA GA DA DA DA DA WO WO WO WO

kotora 29th June 2010 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2406423)
or even Bold & Delicious :heart

YA YA YA YA GA GA GA GA DA DA DA DA WO WO WO WO

It seems not possible tho, because Roberto "Geo" Rosan , who wrote Ladies Night, rainy day, and Bold & Delicious, left Sweetbox at 2007 and the whole Sweetbox group is totally different now.

Source : wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweetbox

truehappiness 29th June 2010 05:25 AM

It actually is possible since they just have a new name... Eternity8[Infinity] or Saint VOX.

I'd rather like it to be honest. It only looks really bad because B&D and (miss)understood were both rather... underwhelming for sales at the time. I think a lot of people thought (m)u would hit a million and it... really didn't. It's sad, but eh. The album is still awesome despite that.

Paparazzi 29th June 2010 05:51 AM

Kazuhito Kikuchi?!

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m...hallelujah.jpg

truehappiness 8th December 2010 02:23 AM

http://twitter.com/kazuhitokikuchi/status/24743905513

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基本的にプレゼンなので出る時もあれば出ない時もありますので(-。-;RT @rumoru @kazuhitokikuchi あゆの新曲はどうなったんですか??
The song was a present and it seems that Ayu hasn't decided to use it yet.

AyuGAME 8th December 2010 03:13 AM

^uggghh...use it Ayu..use it!

freedreamer 8th December 2010 04:22 AM

Next single :) or album...BRING BACK ALL COMPOSERS TIME ! :)

melina_t 8th December 2010 04:25 AM

I hope it's the next single!

freedreamer 8th December 2010 04:31 AM

But he did say it feels like Who... II so..I think an album closer would be more appropriate for that sound. LOL..cant help but feel excited for the next album already :x

Kazeyomi 8th December 2010 04:35 AM

Maybe it was inaappropriate for Love songs, so she didn't use it I guess.
Oh well, she have a new single after Love songs already :D lol

rakeru 8th December 2010 04:37 AM

Please let it be a future song... Is there anybody who doesn't love Kazu?

Pieces_of_SEVEN 8th December 2010 05:55 AM

I hope this is on the album lol

Misa-chan 8th December 2010 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2575016)
http://twitter.com/kazuhitokikuchi/status/24743905513

Quote:

基本的にプレゼンなので出る時もあれば出ない時もありますので(-。-;RT @rumoru @kazuhitokikuchi あゆの新曲はどうなったんですか??
The song was a present and it seems that Ayu hasn't decided to use it yet.

Looking at this tweet, I think ayu probably decided not to use it, instead of not using it yet. Kikuchi's reply basically said "It was a present, she can use it, but she can not use it too", which sounds to me like the demo didn't really impress ayu and she tossed it or something. If ayu was keeping it for future use and told him, the tweet would have been more optimistic than this.

toxicterence 8th December 2010 05:16 PM

yes, it has been abondoned...most of the tracks from Love songs are dominated by Tetsuya Komuro now...

Pieces_of_SEVEN 8th December 2010 06:27 PM

wow...the previews sound OK but I don't want the whole album to be TK lol

Ranma Matsuri 9th December 2010 12:47 AM

Crap... -__-

Quick, someone tweet spam Ayu and tell her to use it or least make another song with him! XD

love in music 9th December 2010 12:49 AM

it was probably crap. he can do some good songs, but some are really crappy.

truehappiness 9th December 2010 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misa-chan (Post 2575886)
Looking at this tweet, I think ayu probably decided not to use it, instead of not using it yet. Kikuchi's reply basically said "It was a present, she can use it, but she can not use it too", which sounds to me like the demo didn't really impress ayu and she tossed it or something. If ayu was keeping it for future use and told him, the tweet would have been more optimistic than this.

Perhaps, but I don't think she would toss something that he seemed to be so proud of. I think I'm being really optimistic when I say this, but the way I see the tweet is that he just doesn't really know what she's going to do/has done with the song so there's no reason for him to hint at a possible release or Ayu accepting the composition to be used as a single/album track. I do want to know what it sounded like though~ he really has a way with ballads that I miss.

I believe we might see it one day in the future, just... not now since we're being bombarded with Komuro, haha.

truehappiness 14th December 2010 04:30 AM

Er, what's going on? Haha. Seems like someone (yuto_19980408) got into a bit of conversation with Matsuura about the Komuro-on-the-album... but I can't really make much out of it. Are people complaining about the amount of Komuro or what?

"What about Yukumi? What about Yuta Nakano? What about Kikuchi?" or something like that. I'm surprised he talked for so long with this person, haha.

Kikuchi's reaction to Matsuura asking how Kikuchi/Yukumi felt:
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毎回僕らもプレゼンをして、本人が気に入った曲を歌ってもらってる。今までもず~っと。今回は単純に小室さ んの曲が良かったのでしょう!(^_-)負けてられないですが!(^^;;頑張りまーす!RT @masatomatsuura 久々に怒った。カズ坊、湯汲。どう思う?
http://twitter.com/kazuhitokikuchi/s...88362295496705

The tweets of discussion (ending with http://twitter.com/yuto_19980408/sta...5486837612544):
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@masatomatsuura 他人の意見に耳を傾けずに、自分本意で生きてきたからこうなっちゃったんだね。そりゃavexはどんどん落 ちぶれるわけだ。あんたが変わろうとしない限り、どんどん悪い方にいくよ。ファンの意見を大事にしないなめ 腐った態度許せん about 1 hour ago via Keitai Web Retweeted by masatomatsuura and 6 others

@masatomatsuura なにムキになってんの(笑)良い年したオジサンが恥ずかしい(笑)良い意見にしか耳を傾けず、悪い意見は集 中攻撃。あんたの精神小学生ですか?大爆笑。社長になる器ないよ、あんた。第一、あんたが社長になってから avex滑りまくり(失笑) about 1 hour ago via Keitai Web Retweeted by masatomatsuura and 7 others

何故?理由を?RT @mireytan: @masatomatsuura 社長今年は任せろって書いてましたけど、小室曲オンパレードのアルバムは、ありえないと思いま す about 2 hours ago via Echofon

@masatomatsuura あゆのアルバム全曲小室氏じゃないと言ってあげて下さい。ほしのさんやマッキ-のシングルも入ってるのに… …それに小室氏の曲が多いとしてもあゆ本人が選んだからですよね。なんでこんな話になってんだろ…悲しい… あゆの耳にも届くよコレ…(T-T) about 2 hours ago tweet

そうしてよ。RT @oyabuncloudy7: 違う言うてはるんやから、あゆに直接言ってみたらええがな。 RT @yuto_19980408: @masatomatsuuraあゆに小室曲を使うのは社長が提案したの?あゆはあなたの言うことは何でも 聞くでしょ? about 2 hours ago via Echofon

そんな事はいたしませんし、ayuがはクリエイティブには妥協しません。RT @MYSTORYDuty: @masatomatsuura 選ぶように持って行ったんでしょあなたが。あゆはあなたに従いますから。まぁどっちにしろ、あゆのセンスが なくなっちゃったってことですね。小室さん曲を全 about 3 hours ago via Echofon

久々に怒った。カズ坊、湯汲。どう思う? about 3 hours ago via Echofon

当たり前だろ。こんな事いってれば。RT @yuto_19980408: @ayu_19980408 浜崎シカトすんなやwwwwwwwwwwww 俺の思いは届いてないのカナ?届くことはないのカナ???? about 3 hours ago via Echofon

@yuto_19980408 あゆから、ブロックされるはずだ(爆笑) about 3 hours ago via Echofon in reply to yuto_19980408

@masatomatsuura あなたには優先順位が 身内的事情>>>ファンの気持ち。なんですね。見損ないましたよ。あゆのアルバムが全曲小室になるなんて許 せない!どう考えても小室の借金返済に歌姫あゆを利用してるよね。倖田とかにも小室曲使わせればいいだろー が。あゆを犠牲にしやがって about 4 hours ago via Keitai Web Retweeted by masatomatsuura and 3 others

みそこなわれるべきはあなた。RT @yuto_19980408: @masatomatsuura あなたには優先順位が 身内的事情>>>ファンの気持ち。なんですね。見損ないましたよ。あゆのアルバムが全曲小室になるなんて許 せない!どう考えても小室の借金返済に歌姫あゆを利用して about 3 hours ago via Echofon

@masatomatsuura タイアップだって新人にばかり貰ってきてやって、恩恵を受けたあゆにはタイアップも宣伝も少ない。不満ばっ かだ、今のあんたには。何が大型タイアップでミュージコ(笑)だよ。馬鹿にしてるの?これ以上あゆファンを 馬鹿にすんなよ?新曲全曲小室曲だ?ふざけんな!! about 4 hours ago via Keitai Web Retweeted by masatomatsuura and 2 others

貴方の方が我々をばかにしてる。内情もしらないのに、ふざけた事言わないでください。RT @yuto_19980408: @masatomatsuura タイアップだって新人にばかり貰ってきてやって、恩恵を受けたあゆにはタイアップも宣伝も少ない。不満ばっ かだ、今のあんたには。 about 3 hours ago via Echofon

@masatomatsuuraあゆに小室曲を使うのは社長が提案したの?あゆはあなたの言うことは何でも 聞くでしょ?ファンよりも身内的な関係のほうが大事?散々あゆに助けてもらってきたくせにあゆを潰そうとす るな。菊地さんや中野さんの楽曲を聴きたくて待ってたファンもいる。みんな怒ってるよ about 4 hours ago via Keitai Web Retweeted by masatomatsuura and 1 other

RT @yuto_19980408: @masatomatsuura誰のアルバムだと思ってんの。ayuのアルバムだよ。作曲を選ぶのは、ay u。カズ坊(菊地さん)や中野の楽曲が選ばれなかっただけの事。本人たちも納得してるよ。おかしいのはあな た。 about 3 hours ago via Echofon

RT@yuto_19980408はっきり言うけどayuが好きで選んだ曲で俺は一言もTKの曲を使えなん て言ってない。誤解しないでほしいが借金なんてもう僕の頭にはない。そんなちっぽけならそもそも貸さない。 貴方こそ器が小さいね。曲がよければayuはこれからも小室さんの曲を歌う事でしょう about 3 hours ago via Echofon

@masatomatsuura あゆのALが全曲小室曲と聞いてショックを受けるファンや離れていくファンがたくさんいる!今回だけならい いよ。これからも小室曲を使うのはまじでない。借金返済に歌姫あゆを利用して、あゆの評判落とさないでよ! avexはあゆに支えてもらった。恩を仇で返すな about 4 hours ago via Keitai Web Retweeted by masatomatsuura and 5 others

これは、許さん。言葉を選びましょう。コノヤローですか。こういう場所で発言するには。それなりの覚悟をも ってのことでしょう。侮辱罪ですね(笑)内容証明お待ちください。“@yuto_199804 08: @masatomatsuura 小室の曲だけでアルバムを埋めるな!!コノヤロー about 3 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone

@masatomatsuura 今いる貴重なあゆファンを離れさせようとしてるの?なんで全曲小室なの?不満しかないよ!!!!!!!何が したいの???ユクミンは?菊地は?中野雄太は?その方たちの曲を聴きたいファンを馬鹿にすんな。小室の曲 だけでアルバムを埋めるな!!コノヤロー���������� about 4 hours ago via Keitai Web Retweeted by masatomatsuura and 7 others

Yukitora 14th December 2010 04:59 AM

ooooooooooo more twitter scandals. Personally I hope after this album she will go all kikuchi on us. However I still prefer his Alan work to his Ayu work. Her voices seems to be made for his compositions (and voice versa)

truehappiness 14th December 2010 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Yukitora (Post 2580577)
ooooooooooo more twitter scandals. Personally I hope after this album she will go all kikuchi on us. However I still prefer his Alan work to his Ayu work. Her voices seems to be made for his compositions (and voice versa)

Considering that he has what, five to ten times [or more?!] more work with her than with any other artist he's worked with, more compositions means there is more to hear and more to choose from. I liked Beautiful Fighters a lot, so I'd wish he could do some upbeat and ballad-y tracks with hher~

terra 14th December 2010 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2575982)
wow...the previews sound OK but I don't want the whole album to be TK lol

Same here -.-;

Misa-chan 14th December 2010 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2580553)
The tweets of discussion (ending with http://twitter.com/yuto_19980408/sta...5486837612544):
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@masatomatsuura 他人の意見に耳を傾けずに、自分本意で生きてきたからこうなっちゃったんだね。そりゃavex はどんどん落 ちぶれるわけだ。あんたが変わろうとしない限り、どんどん悪い方にいくよ。ファンの意見を大事 にしないなめ 腐った態度許せん about 1 hour ago via Keitai Web Retweeted by masatomatsuura and 6 others

@masatomatsuura なにムキになってんの(笑)良い年したオジサンが恥ずかしい(笑)良い意見にしか耳を傾けず、 悪い意見は集 中攻撃。あんたの精神小学生ですか?大爆笑。社長になる器ないよ、あんた。第一、あんたが社長 になってから avex滑りまくり(失笑) about 1 hour ago via Keitai Web Retweeted by masatomatsuura and 7 others

何故?理由を?RT @mireytan: @masatomatsuura 社長今年は任せろって書いてましたけど、小室曲オンパレードのアルバムは、ありえないと思いま す about 2 hours ago via Echofon

@masatomatsuura あゆのアルバム全曲小室氏じゃないと言ってあげて下さい。ほしのさんやマッキ-のシングルも入 ってるのに… …それに小室氏の曲が多いとしてもあゆ本人が選んだからですよね。なんでこんな話になってんだろ …悲しい… あゆの耳にも届くよコレ…(T-T) about 2 hours ago tweet

そうしてよ。RT @oyabuncloudy7: 違う言うてはるんやから、あゆに直接言ってみたらええがな。 RT @yuto_19980408: @masatomatsuuraあゆに小室曲を使うのは社長が提案したの?あゆはあなたの言うことは何でも 聞くでしょ? about 2 hours ago via Echofon

そんな事はいたしませんし、ayuがはクリエイティブには妥協しません。RT @MYSTORYDuty: @masatomatsuura 選ぶように持って行ったんでしょあなたが。あゆはあなたに従いますから。まぁどっちにしろ、あ ゆのセンスが なくなっちゃったってことですね。小室さん曲を全 about 3 hours ago via Echofon

久々に怒った。カズ坊、湯汲。どう思う? about 3 hours ago via Echofon

当たり前だろ。こんな事いってれば。RT @yuto_19980408: @ayu_19980408 浜崎シカトすんなやwwwwwwwwwwww 俺の思いは届いてないのカナ?届くことはないのカナ???? about 3 hours ago via Echofon

@yuto_19980408 あゆから、ブロックされるはずだ(爆笑) about 3 hours ago via Echofon in reply to yuto_19980408

@masatomatsuura あなたには優先順位が 身内的事情>>>ファンの気持ち。なんですね。見損ないましたよ。あゆのアルバムが全曲小室に なるなんて許 せない!どう考えても小室の借金返済に歌姫あゆを利用してるよね。倖田とかにも小室曲使わせれ ばいいだろー が。あゆを犠牲にしやがって about 4 hours ago via Keitai Web Retweeted by masatomatsuura and 3 others

みそこなわれるべきはあなた。RT @yuto_19980408: @masatomatsuura あなたには優先順位が 身内的事情>>>ファンの気持ち。なんですね。見損ないましたよ。あゆのアルバムが全曲小室に なるなんて許 せない!どう考えても小室の借金返済に歌姫あゆを利用して about 3 hours ago via Echofon

@masatomatsuura タイアップだって新人にばかり貰ってきてやって、恩恵を受けたあゆにはタイアップも宣伝も少な い。不満ばっ かだ、今のあんたには。何が大型タイアップでミュージコ(笑)だよ。馬鹿にしてるの?これ以上 あゆファンを 馬鹿にすんなよ?新曲全曲小室曲だ?ふざけんな!! about 4 hours ago via Keitai Web Retweeted by masatomatsuura and 2 others

貴方の方が我々をばかにしてる。内情もしらないのに、ふざけた事言わないでください。RT @yuto_19980408: @masatomatsuura タイアップだって新人にばかり貰ってきてやって、恩恵を受けたあゆにはタイアップも宣伝も少な い。不満ばっ かだ、今のあんたには。 about 3 hours ago via Echofon

@masatomatsuuraあゆに小室曲を使うのは社長が提案したの?あゆはあなたの言うことは何でも 聞くでしょ?ファンよりも身内的な関係のほうが大事?散々あゆに助けてもらってきたくせにあゆ を潰そうとす るな。菊地さんや中野さんの楽曲を聴きたくて待ってたファンもいる。みんな怒ってるよ about 4 hours ago via Keitai Web Retweeted by masatomatsuura and 1 other

RT @yuto_19980408: @masatomatsuura誰のアルバムだと思ってんの。ayuのアルバムだよ。作曲を選ぶのは、ay u。カズ坊(菊地さん)や中野の楽曲が選ばれなかっただけの事。本人たちも納得してるよ。おかし いのはあな た。 about 3 hours ago via Echofon

RT@yuto_19980408はっきり言うけどayuが好きで選んだ曲で俺は一言もTKの曲を使えなん て言ってない。誤解しないでほしいが借金なんてもう僕の頭にはない。そんなちっぽけならそもそ も貸さない。 貴方こそ器が小さいね。曲がよければayuはこれからも小室さんの曲を歌う事でしょう about 3 hours ago via Echofon

@masatomatsuura あゆのALが全曲小室曲と聞いてショックを受けるファンや離れていくファンがたくさんいる!今 回だけならい いよ。これからも小室曲を使うのはまじでない。借金返済に歌姫あゆを利用して、あゆの評判落と さないでよ! avexはあゆに支えてもらった。恩を仇で返すな about 4 hours ago via Keitai Web Retweeted by masatomatsuura and 5 others

これは、許さん。言葉を選びましょう。コノヤローですか。こういう場所で発言するには。それな りの覚悟をも ってのことでしょう。侮辱罪ですね(笑)内容証明お待ちください。“@yuto_199804 08: @masatomatsuura 小室の曲だけでアルバムを埋めるな!!コノヤロー about 3 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone

@masatomatsuura 今いる貴重なあゆファンを離れさせようとしてるの?なんで全曲小室なの?不満しかないよ!!! !!!!何が したいの???ユクミンは?菊地は?中野雄太は?その方たちの曲を聴きたいファンを馬鹿にすん な。小室の曲 だけでアルバムを埋めるな!!コノヤロー���������� about 4 hours ago via Keitai Web Retweeted by masatomatsuura and 7 others

man, this person is so rude, but it's hilarious, some of the things he says. Basically he called max a bastard because all the new songs are by Komuro, but he was like "don't make fun of all us fans who want to hear other composers' works!!". Not sure whether to laugh or be angry :rolleyes

I'll translate the tweets later when I have some time.

Yukitora 14th December 2010 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2580582)
Considering that he has what, five to ten times [or more?!] more work with her than with any other artist he's worked with, more compositions means there is more to hear and more to choose from. I liked Beautiful Fighters a lot, so I'd wish he could do some upbeat and ballad-y tracks with hher~

Well Kukichi is/was Alan's producer. Maybe he worked harder with her :P Whilst ayu just got demos.

truehappiness 14th December 2010 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Misa-chan (Post 2580922)
man, this person is so rude, but it's hilarious, some of the things he says. Basically he called max a bastard because all the new songs are by Komuro, but he was like "don't make fun of all us fans who want to hear other composers' works!!". Not sure whether to laugh or be angry :rolleyes

I'll translate the tweets later when I have some time.

Yeah, I saw a "kono yarou!" in there, haha. Seriously, I wonder if he was drunk or something lol.


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