I think that you could still buy the ticket and just watch the replay?

I want it to watch, but I don't let money for it, when I can buy it a half year later :///

The show will be shown again on 2nd and 3rd Jan, 4 times each day, and you are free to watch them all if you buy one ticket, so you can really watch it quite a few times and whenever you're free. Quite a good deal, I'm thinking of buying it myself. ^^

I don't understand what I did wrong! I tried to purchase a ticket through TA and it doesn't let me. It just gives me this again:

下記項目の入力情報を再度お確かめください。

・海外へのお届けは、こちらからご購入ください。

I don't understand what I have to do? Can someone help?

i can't wait for the setlist *-* i really hope she sings songs that she never sung live before like 'still alone' *--*

It says you can't buy the ticket when you are overseas? Did you log-on to TA and mu-mo??

^ Do you have to be in mu-mo or TA? o.O

I think when we log on to TA and/or mu-mo, mu-mo senses the tenso address we used to sign up with, and that has blocked the system from going. It's a stupid flaw, because that means overseas fans aren't entitled to the TA discount even if we are members. :shakehead

Anyone try tweeting ayu about the problem? Maybe she can help solve it...

^ Is a Japanese address required for the tickets? I'm not in TA nor on mu-mo, so... *getting confused* At least it's a few days before I can buy the ticket anyway. XD

You will be able to purchase the tickets through having a USTREAM account in like... a day. Just wait a bit~

This is not fair. :no They always forget to put a link up for foreign TA members... I still haven't been able to order Calendar 2011 or Deje Deji Nikki mini book from TA because of this same problem. And now I can't puchase a ticket! I think it would be best for everyone if there was just one link that EVERYONE (on TA) could use. :/

Why not? Should be able to purchase it, because mu-mo asks for nothing but your name and e-mail address when buying the ticket. I think we just don't log-in to mu-mo, so they won't detect the tenso address. Just buy it as if we aren't members.

But the TA thing is dumb. All members should have access to the discounted price, overseas or not. :grumpy

Just save the money and buy the DVD. I could see paying for it LIVE and it was the full show, but ehh...

I hope avex fails with this money making scheme and just makes it free. Which will never happen.

I think the only option for overseas fans without TeamAyu is to buy the ticket through USTREAM/Paypal.

http://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000066656

This article makes it sound like it was mainly overseas fans requesting this USTREAM thing and now they won't even utilize it.

LOL! 40$!

Hahhahah I'm just laughing at Ayu and Avex right now, that's pathetic.

I'd rather save 40$, download it for free the next day, add another 20$ or so a couple of months later so I can get the DVD and watch it over and over and over whenever I want, including the encore.

I thought this was going to be like hikki's
guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens

A lot of money goes into making her concerts, I'm sure I can't even begin to imagine the price associated with it so I hope that everyone who can see her will, whether in person or streaming. I am unable to attend her concerts, and I feel the people who can see her are very fortunate. Money comes and goes but Ayu is forever so let's cheer her on!

shhh.don't say this.you know,some people will say that you don't appreciate what avex/ayu did for the international fans.

I think their logic behind it is that you are basically seeing it 'live' since you are getting to see footage mere hours after it has happened. I mean... it costs some people hundreds of dollars to see CDL live so this is really discounted compared to what you would normally pay for the live experience. I know it's not the same, but I guess they want you to think of it like this: You pay to see Ayu once live in concert, and you might possibly buy the DVD later if you want to re-experience the concert. However for this, you're paying to see the recording without paying any of the subscription fees for SkyPerfecTV and are not seeing it live as it's happening. (Though you are seeing it hours later.)

The way I see it, you're paying to get a really really really early copy of the performance that will also probably be ripped for people to download after it airs. I don't know why people keep throwing around "I'm gonna just get it for free" when that's what they would have done regardless of whether CDL was free-to-watch or not online.

but can i can't get my TA discount through ustream...i'm fine with paying 2600yen, but not 3150yen. it's a bit expensive, i just wanna show my support and appreaction to ayu's.

hmm. that's an idea. i'll try now to see if it works.

How many people have signed up for it? I swear some of you would defend and rationalize with Ayu and Avex if Ayu pick pocketed your wallet, grabbed all the cash and cards in it and threw it back in your face.

I agree with this part =) And really, everyone who though it would be for free is very naive...

To be honest, I was never really that big on the USTREAM thing (read: I never cared if she did it or not since I usually get the DVD anyway) but people really seemed to push it on Ayu and Max. The frustrating thing is that the same people who wanted this got it, but it wasn't exactly what they wanted (free), so they're complaining about it and would rather it have never happened. Just what kind of message is that supposed to send?

I doubt many overseas fans who requested this will be paying for it because they'll be off downloading it for free, but I do hope that a lot of Japanese fans who were unable to get tickets can see the concert.

I didn't care for it at first too. But now that she has made it possible, I am really tempted to buy it. CDLs are always awesome. :)

Well, I'm pretty sure she made it to see how was it going to be more than expecting a huge success...

Lol but the thing is I'll be on a family holiday then. Not in the country, no computers too. By the time I get back, I can probably catch the very last replay. So if I buy a ticket, it's really just for support only, since I doubt I can watch it.

I dunno what to do, 30 euros for an encoreless live ... if it was minus 1000 yens I would buy a ticket without thinking twice but there, I still don't know what to do. I didn't buy the last CDL so I don't even think in "DVD to be released" term, more : is it really worthy ?

How were you able to buy it through TA? :)

@TrueHappiness: I agree completely with you, that's exactly what their logic is. I just think €30 / 40$ is a ridiculously high amount of money for something like a stream that isn't even live. I hate to say this but Hikki did it for free and 100% live. And that was a very exclusive concert fans probably paid a lot for as well (to actually be there).

But I know this isn't about Hikki and Ayu. This is about EMI and Avex, and at this point I really hate the person at Avex who thought "hey let's charge em over 3000 yen for a non-live incomplete stream lolz". Or the person at the pay-channel who made Avex do it or who ever.

Just to make it absolutely clear: I don't blame Ayu anything and her intentions are the best. Hope I'm safe now lol.

If this doesn't do well then Avex might say to Ayu don't listen to the international fans. I can understand not getting the tickets because I'm not. I hope this goes well.

I know Avex likes to milk fans, I'm not denying that, but expecting to get a service for free is a little ridiculous. People act like they charged them the price of the actual concert tickets when really it's not that bad of a deal. And yes, throwing the "pay $40? I'm just going to rip it for free" is a very ungrateful IF you're one of the people who requested the service. Ayu has proven throughout the entire year that she acknowledges and cares about her foreign fans but there is only so much she can do for us. And if people are going to be ungrateful about everything she's tried to do and is continuing to do, what gives her the incentive to do anything for us in the future? Seriously, some of her fans are so spoiled, selfish and disgusting! :no I didn't ask for the live stream nor did I plan on purchasing it but I might just do it anyway to support her efforts to make it available to fans abroad.

Calm down.

I am calm, dear. ;) But it's true, I'm sorry.

I still don't know if I buy a ticket but my biggest problem is : lowspeed or highspeed ? My internet is having so much trouble lately -_- they are surely playing with the network for a change =o=
But yeah, I wouldn't like to buy a highspeed ticket and realize that they work on the network or dunno what and low my inet speed ! But if I buy a lowspeed ticket and realize that I regret ... urgh I'm complicated !

I didn't think it would be free, it's Avex, it's a bit stupid to think it would be free !
Now, I paid much more for Emilie Autumn's book this summer, then this is damn cheaper, even if I'm obviously aware that it not that cheap in a way and some can't pay, but I don't smoke nor spend my money in clubbing and outrageaous drink, so ...

What I fear is Avex calling for Ayu and tell her that her overseas fans ask for this and this but in the end they didn't give a damn.

My whole point exactly. I hope it doesn't come to that... :no

They have a demo video up so that you can test if your connection speed is fast enough.

http://avexnet.or.jp/ayu/cdl2010-2011/mumo/1m.html - 1Mbps
http://avexnet.or.jp/ayu/cdl2010-2011/mumo/500k.html - 500kbps

Test them out!

I don't think that's a fair comparison. Yes, she did it for free, but she is going on a hiatus and it seemed like they wanted to have as many people as possible seeing the concert no matter what. They had people at the venues, they had the online streaming, they had the concert live during cinema screenings for the concert... and it was all planned rather early in advance. IMO, I think we could have gotten a truly live broadcast of some sort if this hadn't been something that they were scrambling to do after people thought it was a good idea after seeing Utada's example, but with the time they had... I'm surprised they pulled it together.

However, I do think they're going to be using the TV version's footage which would explain the pricing.

If they had no deal with the satellite TV broadcaster like she has had for the last 10 years, we probably wouldn't have this pricing thing going on. (see Utada's concert only popping up months afterward on TV)

I imagine they probably thought... "Maybe we can do this for free?" but then they had to worry about customers who had always paid for the TV broadcast of CDL. I don't know about you, but most of the time when things like concerts appear on TV that are paid for, they are not also broadcast for free somewhere else online. I'm not sure about it, but most Ayu broadcasts that are non-WOWOW might be Pay-Per-View (not confirmed, but I think it might be so...) and people who watch it on TV have to pay money for it. That's how PPV works, but people eventually find ways to illegally get the footage and download the material anyway. Is it fair for those who have paid to see CDL to have a load of people watching it for free online just because Utada did it a few weeks ago?

About the incomplete nature of the concert... perhaps they have no idea how long the encore will end up running for, so they chose not to include it in the viewing? I mean sometimes it goes over in the TV version as well. I remember for PCDL, no one saw the latter part of the encore until much later when they were able to rebroadcast it. Showing the encore might also include editing the footage down which they don't really have time to do in a matter of hours. (Will people sit through the A-a-a-a-a-a-ayu segments and the talk sections?)

Anyway, is it just me or is NO ONE who wanted to have Ayu do the USTREAM thing actually paying for a ticket? Ugh.

Hm...the 1mbps won't play properly and the 500kbps looks like crap. I'd pay $40 for the 1mbps but not the 500kbps, so...sigh.

No one is "disgusting" for having an opinion imho. Of course it's a different thing to say "OMG I hate Ayu she's evil and she doesn't care about us!" or something like that. But all I said is that I think Avex made the stream expensive, and I even added I absolutely don't blame Ayu for it and her intentions were right.

Unless you weren't even talking about me when you said that, in which case I apologize :)

@TrueHappiness: You're spot-on about the pay TV. I think that's the entire reason. To make it fair towards the people who pay for that channel. :yes

No sweetheart, I wasn't talking about you! Like I said, only the ones who asked for the service and now complain about it and instead decide to rip it for free anyway are ungrateful. I'm sorry, but that's disgusting behavior. It's like if I asked you to do something for me and you do the best you can within a short amount of time but because it's not EXACTLY what I wanted I go and throw it in your face. Just plain rude. It reminds me of that one video of this family where the dad bought his daughter a top of the line car but it wasn't the right color so she threw a *****-fit! :laugh

Do you have DSL?

If your internet is running slow, I recommend power cycling your modem by turning it off for a minute or so and then turning it back on. The 1mbps was really slow for me until I reset mine.

^ Yea, I have DSL. I think it's the fact that two other people are in the house running bandwidth-hogging applications. I'll have to test again after making everyone get off. XD

Well, that's probably why then, haha.

Tbh 40$ are too much for a online broadcasting, sorry. Even if is Ayu. I prefer buy the DVD instead.
But well it's just my opinion so :shrug.

If you watch this on payTV LIVE in Japan you pay what? like 20-100 dollar a month to be able to watch the channel? But you probably will have other things you wanna watch as well.
If you buy the DVD(or possibly bluray) you pay 40-50 ONCE and can watch as many times as you want to in high quality
If you go to one of Ayu's 3D concert to the cinema you pay I guess around 20, but get the best quality POSSIBLE for both video and audio + 3D

Paying 40 to watch it once in poor quality shortly after it happens? Sorry, that's just not fair. I would have paid 10-15.

The voice of reason. :yes

"But that's a black helicopter!! I wanted a pink one daddy :("

I agree, and I apologize :) let's be friends!

this :yes
I don't think it's selfish and disgusting don't wanna pay for that lol.

:shughug

I will wait then. xD

I think they're all too ashamed to post. :P

So ironic. It's the people who didn't care either way in the first place who are buying the tickets now and making up the numbers for their sake. :rolleyes

i guess the people who requested for it never thought of that avex can charge them so high. :P (i'm not one of the people who request them to do so because i know that my internet speed is crappy.i couldn't watch the live stream very smoothly)

like many others mentioned,i guess people willing to pay 3000++yen if it is LIVE on the same time with the paid channel.i don't know what they've agreed with the paid channel since i don't work for them.and i don't know how much they charge for the paid channel just to watch the CDL show.but to people in overseas (since they do mention that this is for the international fans too) ,hope that they can watch it on the same time with the japanese ppl.you know,you'll feel more excited when you watch it on the same time with the people who manage to watch it live in the arena and also paid channel tv.

i am happy that they finally do this but feel sad at the same time because i can only watch it 3 hours after the japanese watched it LIVE.

but i'm glad to see that at least we still can watch several times after the show since they will repeat the CDL for several times after 01.01.2011?

/endofmypost

Is that Japanese TV-channel available online??

I think a lot of people don't realize what it was like to be an international Ayu fan prior to 2 years ago. If this were back then, people would be kissing the ground Avex walks on in order to pay $40 to see the concert.

lol true.

But we're here now, I didn't request the service...but I think the people who did had a little more of hikki's free concert in mind.

I mean, no one is going to tweet ayu "hey, please stream your concert and make it cheap please!" :laugh or worse, "hey ayu please stream your concert and make the price worth it!"

I mean come on, I don't think it's that disgusting...they were hit completely out of the blue with that price.

But oh well, this is avex's decision so, take it or leave it.

Yea, the price is high..I think if it had to be paid for again, it would be more reasonable to charge a different fee for the lower bandwidth and the higher bandwidth streams. Maybe $20 ($10 TA) for 1mbps and $10 (free TA) for the 500kbps. And, yes, LIVE would be best. I'm not sure why they're not doing it live, maybe if they do it again next year it will be live.

The price isn't even that bad, the only reason it's $40 is because of the terrible exchange rate! :laugh I believe the actual price is around 3200 yen? Several years ago that could have been slightly less than $30. Not to mention you're not just paying for one showing, I believe they show it 4 times? So you could think of it as $10/view. ;)

^ That's true. x_x

from Ayu's YT channel

You know..... I kind of want to buy this.

From the Twitter. Awww. I wonder why that is.

http://www.ustream.tv/ayu

OMG, it's actually showing how many people have purchased tickets from USTREAM! 20 so far for the 1mbps and 5 for the 500kbps. And it's also showing exactly who is purchasing... woah~

Simple as this: this streaming thing is a service... someone is going to pay for it... Hikki paied herself so her fans could watch it for free, Ayu wants her fans to pay for it themselves...

fair enough...

we got CM for CDL this year, cant wait,can we expect something more than last year's, i hope so...

1. you have to pay to watch her perform on u-stream.
2. the encore will not be shown.
3. it's a concert during new years eve, and it's not live.

Yeah. I'm so gonna wait for a ustream/tv rip.

This is really the one thing that bothers me. if it was streamed live that'd be one thing, I'd be willing to pay if it was live. It's NOT live, it's just a recording, which is what makes it not worth the time or money in my opinion.

It's a step forward. Avex starts to think on overseas fan. I won't be paying for this, but I'm happy that they have the good intention.

At least 9 actually. One actual show, then 4 shows each on 2nd and 3rd.

the guy saying do it again just makes it sound so creepy hahaha and Intriguing.
Would love to watch it live but I guess...i'll just wait for the DVD

So far 40 people have purchased 1mbps stream tickets and 10 for the 500kbps stream~

I wonder how many will have signed up before the day of.

I think more and more to buy a ticket because this 31th eve is gonna be epic of emptiness at home lol then, better to have something to do/watch XD

I might just hook up my computer to my big screen and surround sound for this xD; It's as close as watching Ayu on TV as I'll get I guess!

Question, does anyone know when it starts EST? The recording is around 1am in Japan, right?.... So, 12pm Jan 31st in the USA?

I might end up deciding to actually pay for this if my New Years Eve turns out to be boring haha
It starts at 1AM in Japan? Thats's 6PM here, so it should end by 9PM, perfect timing :D

It starts here on the West Coast at around 10am, so I guess it starts for you guys at around 1pm?

Okay, cool. Thanks! As it turns out! I went to my old job to say hi to everyone and they said I had a paycheck! How amazing is that, definitely watching this on Ustream now!

87 people on the 1mbps stream and 25 for the 500kbps one~

I hope it gets to at least 150 before Friday!

lol if I wasn't completely and utterly broke, I'd honestly buy this. XD

@jbrat: Sweeeeettt. It must be fate. :P

I'm glad to see it's starting to pick up viewers--the stall at 25 had me worried. My big fear about this is that if it fails, Avex will write it off as a lack of interest and cease any additional international efforts. I buy my albums and DVDs, I've gone to see her live, and I'd happily do so for locally, even digitally released albums/DVDs/a world tour if Avex gave us a logical release schedule. $40 for a streaming concert during which my crappy university connection could drop is just too much.

I just purchased my ticket! ^^

It does seem like a lot, but you pretty much legally get the main portion of the concert really really soon, and they're replaying it about 6 times total.

I mean who knows, most people who see the stream might get to see the concert before anyone else does!

OK, I'm officially crazy now, I will try to find a way to properly record part of my screen WITH computer audio and if that works I will pay for the stream haha

Correct me if I'm wrong, but does this say that we will get two songs free for the USTREAM broadcast?

http://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000066656

2 free songs? it would be awesome *_*

You're right ^^
From asian fanatics

2 free songs? Now does that mean videos of songs that are not in the TV version for some reason?(like rehearsal or 30th dec vids maybe?) or just like...free song downloads? Definitely interesting.

EDIT: Oh! First two songs for free! lol
How long does purchasing a ticket take? I think I'll see if the quality is ok and then decide to pay or not :D And this probably means costume change after 2 songs I'm guessing.

It should take a few minutes.

However, if you buy the ticket after seeing the first two songs, you will miss whatever happens while you're buying the ticket.

Awww I thought we got two new free mp3 songs or something xD; Oh well, good enough.

Watch the first song, open a new tab placed next to the stream. Should work.
But could someone that bought a ticket confirm that you can do it in 5 mins? Else I'm not even starting to watch cause chances I then buy a ticket and will be damn pissed I missed a few mins will be high lol

I hope more people will be watching.

They should have emphasized this to get people interested.

"YOU GET THE FIRST TWO CLIPS FREE YOU GUYS"

Make a USTREAM account first since that will probably take the bulk of the time. Then try and go through the process. I think I'm going to make an account for now just to see.

how do you guys know how much people bought a ticket? because I only find the "crowd" thing that says there is 102 people in, but I joined without paying anything lol

It is explained on the official page that if you buy it when the show has already started, you won't be able to watch that video, so you'll only watch the re-broadcasts

They took out the people-who-have-tickets now thing. I guess they didn't want people's names being disclosed.

I wanted a ticket..but those prices..no way.

no CDL for me then...

It says that when you buy it when the show has already started, you will not be able to see what has already aired.

Basically, it makes sense because you will be paying while the show is going on, so you won't be able to see anything you miss past the first two free songs if you're buying it during the concert other than during a rebroadcast.

Scenario: You buy the ticket halfway through the concert and redeem it. You can not rewind and see the half that you missed and can only see the half that is broadcasting at the time of redemption. If you're planning on watching anyway, I think you should just buy the ticket ahead of time instead of waiting for the free portions.

so what time is it airing? is it tomorrow?

I know this will happen!!! At the first place, we know Avex.

I know it would be unfair if it would be free watching it online but at least if we would pay for it, it should be on the same Japanese time when it's LIVE and not delayed.

But, I also know there are devoted fans who will pay it, ne?

I'll just wait for the DVD.

It's airing on Friday morning.

I think they want to ensure that everything goes smoothly. Would you rather the broadcast be live and then something goes wrong 30 minutes into the show and you end up having to watch a replay anyway?

Also, if it were live for everyone else it would be extremely early for some viewers.

Well, that's true.

But why there's no encore anyway?