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jbrat2219 30th May 2011 06:32 PM

Oh Ayu... Why does the verse have to be so weak?! :no I know people are picking up blossom vibes, as am I, but the verse also reminds me of glitter actually. The chorus is what I live for! Cannot wait for the full song!!

octocoffee 30th May 2011 06:34 PM

The chorus is fantastic. I think the verses might sound more natural in full, so I'll wait on that. BUT THE ARRANGEMENT. gah. Strings make me melt.

And the preview so far reminds me of typical game tie-ins, sort of along the lines Hitomi Shimatani's classical crossover stuff. So. Yay.

*hearT_Place* 30th May 2011 06:40 PM

guitars + strings = :love

I freaking love the chorus! The verse is good, too, but the chorus is just :heart:heart

isthisLOL? 30th May 2011 06:42 PM

OK, the opening is a bit long but i think that's cause of the trailer, as soon as the strings kick in it's a HUGE "OMG!!! ANISONG!!!!", the verse vocals sounded a bit cutesy at very first but I like it now, the chorus is just plain epic.
I always hoped she'd do anisong sometime :)

Very blossom, but it doesn't sound like the same song so it's ok!

zaturna 30th May 2011 06:43 PM

i LOVE the opening instrumental with the violins and I LOVE the chorus!!
But I don't like her voice in the verses, kind of too cutesy for me. Is this the final version already?

noisy_harmony 30th May 2011 06:53 PM

part of me and HEAVEN? LMAO.

Sounds like Love songs leftover, especially in the verses. If I have to judge by preview... One of weakest songs and weakest single she's released in latest years.

love in music 30th May 2011 06:56 PM

I've been wondering, is this the preview of progress starting from the beginning of this video, or is it just the game music mixed with the preview of "progress"? like, I get the feeling the progress preview only starts at 1:07 and that epic intro isn't a part of it but just other game trailer music. I kinda hope I'm wrong.

Maemi 30th May 2011 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by love in music (Post 2695007)
I've been wondering, is this the preview of progress starting from the beginning of this video, or is it just the game music mixed with the preview of "progress"? like, I get the feeling the progress preview only starts at 1:07 and that epic intro isn't a part of it but just other game trailer music. I kinda hope I'm wrong.

I hope not, because OMG, that epic intro is the only thing I like about this preview! :dead2

Corvina 30th May 2011 07:12 PM

I think that intro doesn't belong to progress. Sounds to me like normal RPG soundtrack.

Beauty4123 30th May 2011 07:23 PM

omg i love the preview! :heart i just really love the sound of it! can't wait for the full song. :D

JackieRos 30th May 2011 07:24 PM

the instrumental music is amazing but her voice doesn't go with it.

idk I like the chorus and the last part, hopefully this is going to be a full song (idk if is)
Hopefully I'll like the rest of it but now no.

x-megumi-x 30th May 2011 07:27 PM

Ok nothing amazing but I actually really like it. Can't wait for the full song!

*hearT_Place* 30th May 2011 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by love in music (Post 2695007)
I've been wondering, is this the preview of progress starting from the beginning of this video, or is it just the game music mixed with the preview of "progress"? like, I get the feeling the progress preview only starts at 1:07 and that epic intro isn't a part of it but just other game trailer music. I kinda hope I'm wrong.

I think it is, because the way the strings and guitars are used sound similar to the way they are used at the end of the "progress" preview.

Man, that would suck if that intro wasn't a part of the actual song. It's awesome!

Bruised.Sapphire 30th May 2011 08:08 PM

Thanks for posting this in a new thread! I like the game preview more than the song, the song just seems like any other rock song of hers.

Keiichi_JPU 30th May 2011 08:26 PM

I'm pretty sure the intro is part of the song. At least it fits the song, look at the intro for Mirrorcle World that seemed completely random, and it still worked.

Polyrhythm 30th May 2011 08:37 PM

I hate the melody but I love the whole power of her voice throughout this song.

pepper 30th May 2011 08:40 PM

Dislike verses, kinda love chorus oO

relmy 30th May 2011 08:44 PM

The instrumental at the beginning just sounds like typical atmospheric RPG music. I just assumed it was the games soundtrack.

Or if it is part of the song, I don't think it's the part directly before the vocals.

I think the dun dun dun part is played alongside the lead in to progress, making it sound like it's part of the song, but it's actually part of the games soundtrack. If the first part was also "progress" I imagine her name would appear in the corner a lot earlier in the trailer.

perfectodub 30th May 2011 08:48 PM

I don't like it...verse and chorus sound like blossom..and i think "i hate" blossom
the chorus is so unoriginal.

kawaii:3 30th May 2011 08:52 PM

Sounds nice! :)

Chibi-Chan 30th May 2011 08:55 PM

I love it! Especially her voice!

Miduhyo 30th May 2011 09:32 PM

I think the verses are plain, but I really really like the chorus!!! :D

Diego-kun 30th May 2011 10:01 PM

The verses are ok but the chorus is pure awesomeness!!! :luv2

kirei_ayumi 30th May 2011 10:02 PM

sounds pretty good...

rakeru 30th May 2011 10:07 PM

So excited! It sounds like a cool adventure song.

AyUta 30th May 2011 10:10 PM

I don't think it sounds bad at all :).

truehappiness 30th May 2011 10:36 PM

I think the strings in the intro are a part of the song, I mean it flows into the song and has basically the same arrangement as the rest of the track... so why not? Haha. I guess there's a possibility that it's just BGM, but Ayu's had songs that have started out like that before. We'll see when the track comes out~

ALfromHELLSING 30th May 2011 10:46 PM

sounds friggin' epic :thud

R_Hikki 30th May 2011 10:54 PM

I thought that I was listening to "Sending Mail" at first.

unhidragtor 30th May 2011 11:11 PM

it's simple...in my opinion...

lakrits 30th May 2011 11:12 PM

Okay song with a powerfull chorus, a tad to anime- or game-sounding for my taste.
I know I'll like it more eventually :).

oneheart 30th May 2011 11:26 PM

Don't get the Heaven/part of me vibe. but good song.

AyumiAi 30th May 2011 11:38 PM

My ears just had an orgasm after so long without new material and to get this is so amazing just an amazing song I love it already!!!!! It's amazing! I love it

bondingo 30th May 2011 11:38 PM

Sounds like every other song she's released ever.

LEOyumi 30th May 2011 11:55 PM

Sounds so different from everything! Love love love it! <3

Zeke. 31st May 2011 12:15 AM

^ Lol at the order of the two posts above me.

Violently Happy 31st May 2011 12:33 AM

Just wondering does anybody think she used a lot of vibrato in this song?

carlos_ayu 31st May 2011 12:39 AM

LOVE IT!!! LOVE IT!!! I cant wait to hear the fullsong!!! thanks!!!

truehappiness 31st May 2011 12:39 AM

Not really? At least, when I think of "a lot of vibrato" I think of when she used to a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a--a-a-a the heck out of HEAVEN and Dearest, which this song doesn't have at all. There is a bit of vibrato in the verses though.

Looks like people who aren't even Ayu fans like the song too! Mm, positive feedback.

Violently Happy 31st May 2011 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2695224)
Not really? At least, when I think of "a lot of vibrato" I think of when she used to a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a--a-a-a the heck out of HEAVEN and Dearest, which this song doesn't have at all. There is a bit of vibrato in the verses though.

Looks like people who aren't even Ayu fans like the song too! Mm, positive feedback.

I didn't think she used that much vibrato either! I personally love when she uses vibrato! ^_^ That's great to hear that people who don't like Ayu like the song! Maybe Ayu will get a lot of new fans? O_o

jkm444 31st May 2011 01:12 AM

Sounds good!! The only part I don't like is the "wow wow" part in the end of the preview. I am hoping she takes it out in the full version of the song.

*hearT_Place* 31st May 2011 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2695224)

Looks like people who aren't even Ayu fans like the song too! Mm, positive feedback.


Yay! :D

Raiu-Ayu 31st May 2011 01:21 AM

OMG!!! So far progress sounds AMAZING!!! The intro is pure eargasm!!! lolol The orchestra and the guitar! This is gonna be an awesome song. I wonder if that piano bit at the beginning is part of the song....

zellyx 31st May 2011 01:46 AM

really dislike the beginning (ehh too cutesy), REALLY LOVE THE CHORUS AND "WOWOW YEAH"!!!
the "wo wo wo.." goes so well with the instrumental... !!!!!!!!
:luv2

love in music 31st May 2011 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondingo (Post 2695194)
Sounds like every other song she's released ever.

even Beautiful Fighters, EnergizE, and girlish? :P
I actually think the chorus sounds quite different for an ayu song. I hope the verses will sound better in the full song.

adantatu2 31st May 2011 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zellyx (Post 2695262)
really dislike the beginning (ehh too cutesy), REALLY LOVE THE CHORUS AND "WOWOW YEAH"!!!
the "wo wo wo.." goes so well with the instrumental... !!!!!!!!
:luv2

same here, i don't like the beginning, but this preview is growing on me

TeamAyu2004 31st May 2011 02:33 AM

I like it!
But it doesnt sound anything like heaven or part of me...
The chorus was amazing and the beginning part was cool. Over all I think I will be happy with the full song!!

YAY! AYUMI!

Tony G 31st May 2011 02:44 AM

I love it. Gets better on repeat listens.

I wanted another rock from Ayu, and we got it. :D :D

AyumiAi 31st May 2011 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2695305)
I like it!
But it doesnt sound anything like heaven or part of me...
The chorus was amazing and the beginning part was cool. Over all I think I will be happy with the full song!!

YAY! AYUMI!

Yea agreed it doesn't sound anything like heaven and part of me, those people were probably high :p

Zeke. 31st May 2011 03:13 AM

I never minded cutesy songs - actually I loved them (ANGEL'S SONG, HONEY, Beautiful Fighters, glitter) - but her voice now is just so bad when she tries to force that cutesy feeling (Thank U) - it is unbearable because before she could pull it off and now it is just so forced. You can still hear the raspiness of her more mature voice in it and it just sounds annoying and embarrassing.

AyuGAME 31st May 2011 04:17 AM

i really don't think that she want to be cute...
the arrangement and composition in the verse is kinda quiet, that's why she sing that way...kinda like whispering...i have no problem with her voice on the verse...
i start to like the verse part as well, after repeat the song for about 100 times...

for the cover..i'm thinking, maybe it will be good if she cosplaying one of the character, i think the main female character has a very interesting costume..i hope the PV will have a lot of special effect as well...
imagine ayu sing on music station on cosplay costume...i think it's cool

truehappiness 31st May 2011 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyumiAi (Post 2695311)
Yea agreed it doesn't sound anything like heaven and part of me, those people were probably high :p

Yeah, I guess whoever tweeted that or whatever hadn't heard it, haha.

The "cool" descriptions are pretty much spot on though.

xLuna&1LOVE 31st May 2011 04:24 AM

I can't hear a HEAVEN / part of me similarity, but it's allright. The refrain melody reminds me a bit of crossroad, but nah... progress sounds promising. Very cool.

DogboyShugo 31st May 2011 04:25 AM

Im confused, last thing i heard on this website was it was called "making fate", whatever happened to that. i've been out of the loop

Kazeyomi 31st May 2011 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DogboyShugo (Post 2695364)
Im confused, last thing i heard on this website was it was called "making fate", whatever happened to that. i've been out of the loop

making fate turns out to be fake. Even the lyrics. Someone asked Ayu about it and she was like 'uh? What is making fate?' :laugh. The real song is progress :yes

love in music 31st May 2011 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyuGAME (Post 2695357)
i really don't think that she want to be cute...
the arrangement and composition in the verse is kinda quiet, that's why she sing that way...kinda like whispering...i have no problem with her voice on the verse...
i start to like the verse part as well, after repeat the song for about 100 times...

for the cover..i'm thinking, maybe it will be good if she cosplaying one of the character, i think the main female character has a very interesting costume..i hope the PV will have a lot of special effect as well...
imagine ayu sing on music station on cosplay costume...i think it's cool

yeah, I don't hear any cuteness either. It's like the blossom verses.. they're quiet, not cute like the "Thank U" verses are. What's more cute sounding is the music in the verses, not her vocals.

kagami 31st May 2011 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 2695314)
I never minded cutesy songs - actually I loved them (ANGEL'S SONG, HONEY, Beautiful Fighters, glitter) - but her voice now is just so bad when she tries to force that cutesy feeling (Thank U) - it is unbearable because before she could pull it off and now it is just so forced. You can still hear the raspiness of her more mature voice in it and it just sounds annoying and embarrassing.

I think Thank U was kinda a one off thing though. She sounds fine in Sexy little things and EnergizE and they both have the 'cutesy' vocals. RED LINE as well, for that matter.

I'm not going to make a judgement on the song yet, since previews never really do them justice.

Mirai Noah 31st May 2011 06:41 AM

I like the preview, sounds nice :)

Zeke. 31st May 2011 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kagami (Post 2695382)
I think Thank U was kinda a one off thing though. She sounds fine in Sexy little things and EnergizE and they both have the 'cutesy' vocals. RED LINE as well, for that matter.

I'm not going to make a judgement on the song yet, since previews never really do them justice.

I never thought RED LINE had cutesy vocals though. But yes Thank U sounds different than the ones you mentioned - although this new song sounds similar to vocals in Thank U more so than it sounds similar to vocals in EnergizE or Slt.

PoetGirl 31st May 2011 07:38 AM

omg, I really really like it. I want this song NOW

GREENsora 31st May 2011 07:42 AM

love it!

ayujarl 31st May 2011 08:31 AM

wowowo~~~ love the song so far~

perfectodub 31st May 2011 08:52 AM

when i hear this song i got the feeling that they (composer) are making songs just picking any random note and put it together effortlessly

brener 31st May 2011 09:39 AM

it makes wanna play TALES OF XILIA!!! *-*
the song fits perfectly with the game atmosphere, tho i think i wouldnt like the song that much if it wasnt on it, i mean, with the game it sounded more catchy and blast, i think it would be only an "ok song" if it wasnt on the game....

TheBaronAndAyu 31st May 2011 02:49 PM

I actually really like it!! To me it sounds like a mix of crossroad and Love song, with a bit of blossom thrown. :) One of her best songs in a long time.

isthisLOL? 31st May 2011 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectodub (Post 2695444)
when i hear this song i got the feeling that they (composer) are making songs just picking any random note and put it together effortlessly

Liking or disliking a song personally is one thing but there is nothing objectively wrong with the melody of this song, it goes well, actually REALLY well, together, no clashing, so I don't get how they are "random notes". Listen to the new Gaga album and you will hear random notes.

RayJason 31st May 2011 06:01 PM

I like it :D. For me it sounds a bit like blossom in a way :0

yabieru 31st May 2011 06:04 PM

Oh please, don't start bashing Gaga again... I'm tired of that type of comments U_U

I like how the song sounds. The beggining is epic and the chorus is powerful. Can't wait to hear full song *-*

tokyoxjapanxfan 31st May 2011 06:45 PM

Roommate wrote the lyrics he could hear from the preview:

あの時にあの場所に居て
戦っていた自分が
全ては今を選ぶため
だったとしたらなら

ano toki ni ano bashou ni ite
tatakatteita jibun ga
subete wa ima o erabu tame
datta toshitara nara

向きあえず置き去りなまま
目を反らしていた過去を
許したと思うのは
許されたいからなのかな

mukiaezu okizari na mama
me o sorashiteita kakkou o
yurushita to omou no wa
yurusaretai kara nano kana

僕らがただ自由で
いられたあの頃は遠くて
無邪気な笑顔だけじゃ
この頃は過ごせないけど

bokura ga tada jiyuu de
irareta ano koro wa tookute
mujyaki na egao dake jya
kono goro wa sugosenai kedo

僕らは進んで行く
それでも進み続けてく
何かを信じられる
心が見守ってるから

bokura wa susunde yuku
sore demo susumi tsuzuketeku
nanika o shinjirareru
kokoro ga mimamotteru kara

wow wow wow
wow wow yeah

isthisLOL? 31st May 2011 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yabieru (Post 2695626)
Oh please, don't start bashing Gaga again... I'm tired of that type of comments U_U

I like how the song sounds. The beggining is epic and the chorus is powerful. Can't wait to hear full song *-*

You should learn what bashing is. I was only pointing out that on Gaga's new album there are some random melodies. That's objective, it's music theory that some of the melodies simply are not as harmonic as they could be. I'm not bashing Gaga, just pointing out that her songwriters did a bad job on some songs melodies because I needed a comparison and Gaga is someone most people know.

CHE.R.RY 31st May 2011 10:28 PM

I think the preview sounded really nice :yes. I'm very eager to hear the full song! The game looks pretty cool too lol.

Andrenekoi 31st May 2011 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isthisLOL? (Post 2695784)
You should learn what bashing is. I was only pointing out that on Gaga's new album there are some weak melodies. That's objective, it's music theory that some of the melodies simply are not as harmonic as they could be. I'm not bashing Gaga, just pointing out that her songwriters did a bad job on some songs melodies because I needed a comparison and Gaga is someone most people know.

Actually, u could have done no comparision at all... this way no fans would be offended^^

njanjayrp 31st May 2011 11:24 PM

^ there is really no reason for anyone to be offended, the fans aren't the ones who created those songs. And people who get butthurt over things like that...well they can't be helped.

isthisLOL? wasn't really bashing anyone and if none of Ayu fans got offended by perfectodub's comment I don't see why would it be the other way around? As they kinda said the same thing... but nooo saying anything that isn't good about GaGa seems to be un-imaginable...

Andrenekoi 31st May 2011 11:52 PM

^It's not like i'm in love with Gaga's new album... but really... Why saying Gaga's news music is bad when she is not on topic? I find it very annoying everytime someone brings some random artist into the discussion with no reason at all... We know there's tons of fans of the girl over here, that's no need to bring her up for criticism on a topic that isn't even about her in the first place...

adantatu2 1st June 2011 01:56 AM

this is so good, and it's just a preview !!
i can't wait for all the info

Mintkisses 1st June 2011 02:36 AM

I'm really interested in listening to the full version~
And the arrangement does sound like something HAL would develop..let's hope so, I love HAL! Very cute, high pitched vocals. In the beginning I didn't know if she pulled it off so well, but the chorus was nice through out + the ending.

yamadashun 1st June 2011 03:32 AM

omg the chorus is awesome! the upbeat style suits as a game theme song.

perfectodub 1st June 2011 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isthisLOL? (Post 2695587)
Liking or disliking a song personally is one thing but there is nothing objectively wrong with the melody of this song, it goes well, actually REALLY well, together, no clashing, so I don't get how they are "random notes". Listen to the new Gaga album and you will hear random notes.

IMO any song of BTW album is better than this.

this song is just ramdomness

love in music 1st June 2011 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mintkisses (Post 2695918)
I'm really interested in listening to the full version~
And the arrangement does sound like something HAL would develop..let's hope so, I love HAL! Very cute, high pitched vocals. In the beginning I didn't know if she pulled it off so well, but the chorus was nice through out + the ending.

I actually think it's another TK song. Sounds like something on Love Songs, thank goodness!

Zeke. 1st June 2011 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectodub (Post 2695989)
IMO any song of BTW album is better than this.

this song is just ramdomness

Let's not even go there, the album is atrocious.

jbrat2219 1st June 2011 05:43 AM

Oh Lord, here we go~

Comparing Ayu to Lady G is silly, we all know when you throw another big name into the conversation fans from both sides get heated so let's just drop it, please.

TeamAyu2004 1st June 2011 05:51 AM

Haha, Lady G. I like that nick name:
but yes, i think there is no need for comparing. (although I do think a full version of ayumi's song would kick so much more *** then Lady G's music, in general.)
Both the ayumi and ayumi's song are good in their own ways... :yes

SURREAL__RAINBOW 1st June 2011 06:12 AM

comparing a short preview of a song to an album? makes no sense.

jbrat2219 1st June 2011 06:14 AM

Ayu's first single after an album is almost always left overs. It's a good thing I love her albums so I don't mind. I'm sure single #2 will be outrageously different.

ストロボ・EdGE 1st June 2011 06:30 AM

^That's pretty true.

glitter would've been a lot better in Secret than in GUILTY, Mirrorcle World is a given since it was already in GUILTY as Mirror, Sunrise was electro diarrhea from NEXT LEVEL, MOON sounded very RnRC-y, and now from the looks of it, progress sounds like it would've fit perfectly well with Love songs.

Misa-chan 1st June 2011 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tokyoxjapanxfan (Post 2695667)
Roommate wrote the lyrics he could hear from the preview:

あの時にあの場所に居て
戦っていた自分が
全ては今を選ぶため
だったとしたらなら

ano toki ni ano bashou ni ite
tatakatteita jibun ga
subete wa ima o erabu tame
datta toshitara nara

向きあえず置き去りなまま
目を反らしていた過去を
許したと思うのは
許されたいからなのかな

mukiaezu okizari na mama
me o sorashiteita kakkou o
yurushita to omou no wa
yurusaretai kara nano kana

僕らがただ自由で
いられたあの頃は遠くて
無邪気な笑顔だけじゃ
この頃は過ごせないけど

bokura ga tada jiyuu de
irareta ano koro wa tookute
mujyaki na egao dake jya
kono goro wa sugosenai kedo

僕らは進んで行く
それでも進み続けてく
何かを信じられる
心が見守ってるから

bokura wa susunde yuku
sore demo susumi tsuzuketeku
nanika o shinjirareru
kokoro ga mimamotteru kara

wow wow wow
wow wow yeah

Aahh, ok, I understand the lyric much better now. And also why it's titled progress. :D

Thanks for sharing!!!!

New translation:

Quote:

If in that time, at that place
I was fighting
And my reason for doing so
Was because I chose to be here now

I used to avoid facing my past
Not referring to it, leaving it behind
Did I then forgive such a past
Because I wished to be forgiven myself?

That time when we were free
To be ourselves, is far gone
And though we can’t live through
This time with just innocent smiles

Let us move on
Even so, let us continue to move on
As long as we can believe in something
Our hearts will watch over us

wow wow wow
wow wow yeah~!!

jbrat2219 1st June 2011 06:47 AM

^ Thank you Misa!

*hearT_Place* 1st June 2011 07:32 AM

Thanks Misa!!

I can't stop listening to this preview!

love in music 1st June 2011 08:19 AM

Thank you misa-chan. The lyrics are so beautiful, powerful & inspirational. I'm loving them so far and looking forward to the full song even more!

njanjayrp 1st June 2011 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2695831)
^It's not like i'm in love with Gaga's new album... but really... Why saying Gaga's news music is bad when she is not on topic? I find it very annoying everytime someone brings some random artist into the discussion with no reason at all... We know there's tons of fans of the girl over here, that's no need to bring her up for criticism on a topic that isn't even about her in the first place...

I like the album for the bigger part. She is a musician and the isthisLOL! only gave an example of what they thought was random-sounding or whatever. It's the same way people bring Ayu up whenever they discuss sales and pretty much anything else. Don't really see what's wrong with that :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectodub (Post 2695989)
IMO any song of BTW album is better than this.

this song is just ramdomness

Good for you :)

And Misa-chan thanks for the translation!!

stivenoto 1st June 2011 10:17 AM

Woowww.....

Love the song so much....
Can't stop listening......

Hope they will release the new single soon
must get this single

AyUmIXx 1st June 2011 10:45 AM

thanks misa-chan for the lyric translation..
it's about progress to move on? haha~

DA1SUK1DAY01691 1st June 2011 11:04 AM

I agree with the group who said it sounds like "Sending Mail"s chorus with "blossom"s verses—a promising combination, but so far I'm just into the chorus...

I don't know, these verses are REALLY iffy at this point, but I guess only the full song will either make or break it...

koumori 1st June 2011 12:14 PM

Still liking it!

Andrenekoi 1st June 2011 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2696072)
I like the album for the bigger part. She is a musician and the isthisLOL! only gave an example of what they thought was random-sounding or whatever. It's the same way people bring Ayu up whenever they discuss sales and pretty much anything else. Don't really see what's wrong with that :)

And everytime someone bring Ayu uo to discuss sales, things go wrong too... Why keep comparing when we all know it only brings stupid AHS drama? I can understand it on a thread about a comparation, but really, this is about Ayu's news song, not about how random Gaga's album sounds...

dzinup 1st June 2011 04:13 PM

Thanks Misa for the lyrics!!

ayujarl 1st June 2011 04:24 PM

this song is totally growing... I keep listening and listening :D

isthisLOL? 1st June 2011 04:46 PM

Holy **** discussion o.0

I was saying that melodies on Gaga's album sound random, that was NOT a quality statement. Random does NOT mean bad in this case. If I like the album or not is another thing. Random notes are a stilistic device in, for example, trance music. And clashig notes, which tends to happen if something sounds random, are used in some rock, metal and classical/neoclassical music on purpose to create an effect. See "Art of Life" by X-Japan for that.

I was simply pointing out that "progress" follows all the traditional rules of songwriting to the person that called it random. And if something follows rules it is not random. There are 2 possibilities. Either "progress" is random but just happens to have all notes be harmonic(highly unlikely) or it is NOT random.
While some songs on Gaga's new album do not appear to do that, I was not saying either one is bad. I used Gaga's new album because it is one of the few pop albums I can think of that have that and are popular and new enough for people to remember the songs.

And Ayumi has had clashing notes before, mostly in her CREA-era, doesn't mean the songs were bad(though for some IMO it amde them worse), it just showed that she was an amateur songwriter, a VERY talented one, but amateur.

ストロボ・EdGE 1st June 2011 05:02 PM

Oh GAWD, apparently Gaga is the new Kuu for everyone to compare about.

Wouldn't it be awesome if the PV for progress had some action in it? Kind of like how Rule was slightly thematically like Dragon Ball.

jbrat2219 1st June 2011 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by isthisLOL? (Post 2696221)
And Ayumi has had clashing notes before, mostly in her CREA-era, doesn't mean the songs were bad(though for some IMO it amde them worse), it just showed that she was an amateur songwriter, a VERY talented one, but amateur.

Then why didn't you just compare Ayu to Ayu instead of Gaga in the first place if you wanted to make a point? Any time you compare Ayu's music to another (popular) artist, it's going to start trouble even if you didn't intend for it to be a negative statement on either part lol. We either have a bashing thread for the mentioned artist or we have a "this artist is better than Ayu" thread. Either way the fans get *****y so it's best to leave Gaga & Co. out of this.


So what example do you have of clashing notes from CREA's works?


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