lol shake it at least looks a lot better than NaNaNa. idc i love seeing ayu shaking it~ hopefully the stupid annoying camera effect isn't in that video.

Please let me know when you are done with the edit. Will you do the same for Return Road?

well HIGH FIVE! haha...i didnt even watch hbya's PV..but at least from what i read, Timmy isnt in RR's PV right? haha
im so anxious for this release already...
though that Shake It preview in the CM sounded kinda awkawrd...so I dunno what to expect

+1

I expected it to be something like Ladies Night, my name's WOMEN, Lady Dynamite and so on...

I couldn't resist. xD but I was tryin really hard! lol

wait... she traveled somewhere to film Shake It♥ or NaNaNa? Cause if it was Shake it♥ PV maybe there are more scenes?
anyway, if Return Road is as epic as do it again it's already great. how beautiful you are is a good PV, but not enough Ayu in it.

'Scuse me, but I have to do this.

PRARTY HARD /derp

Awesome typo, Avex :laugh

thats a horrible CM../ it's like avex wants to get rid of her...

Zeke. PLEASE share NaNaNa without Timmy's part with us! We'll be eternally grateful! :D

Here it is: Return Road ~ without Timmy's AAahaOOoHOHOoho ver. ~

I didn't manage to cut off Timmy's chanting so I made the whole song shorter. I also changed the last chorus a bit to my liking. I couldn't find another way to remove Timmy from this track lol. :laugh

Can i just ask...if my item is under "Processed" in CDJapan..that means they have not received the goods unlike "In Stock" which means it is ready to be packed already right?
and if I were to choose to ship items seperately now, it may very well affect the time I get my album right?

RayJason thanks for Return Road =)

Are you sure that's timmy doing the Awahahawahwhawhaw crap?

^ I don't think it's him. But it does create this really funny mental image in my head lol

I must be the only one who's so happy with everything so far :heart

how beautiful you are was well, gorgeous. NaNaNa is so fun... Return Road is hauntingly beautiful :heart

don't know if it was posted before:lech:lech
really funny - -well a bit pornographic

2012/3/23
http://shopping.avex.com.tw/avex/Def...r_2&ItemId=230

^ Oh my

YEAH-OH YEAH-OH Shake It NaNaNa... Go Round like a Party Queen!

I want to know what the Japanese fans think of this album and Timmy omnipresence. If her core fanbase likes it then I guess I have to look forward to a plethora of future release riddled with him

Ok it might be a while before i have time - i have to reinstall the program i always use to edit audio files. i did a rough edit in windows movie maker lol.

I will also try to edit Tell me why - those stupid girly chants really kill it for me.

Have people ever tried editing Ayumi songs to erase parts they dislike like this before? o.0 The edits I heard so far sounded rather bad or took away important aspects of a song's composition so not for me...if I don't like a song I don't listen xD

Prarty Queen :roflmao
The Shake It PV looks better than the NaNaNa PV from what I could see in that CM, but I guess we won't know until the entire PV is released.

Yeah... I can't with these ppl.

I think the way someone once edited OLIVIA songs before was way worse. I think that person was a hardcore religious person with very tender ears apparently, so he/she edited out all the "bad" words from some of her tracks from The Lost Lolli. NOT acceptable, that album is flawless :no

I tried to edit NaNaNa in Adobe Soundbooth CS5 but I can't edit it properly. Timmy's part seems to be locked there. If I erase his part the song becomes weird, and you'll instantly notice that someone has been messing around with the song. After ayu's first verse there's nothing that can be put there except to leave Timmy's part or to abruptly put the chorus after it. I hope you can do a better job than me because I fail so hard at editing that track. :tipsy

I also tried editing out the vocals of Timmy's part but it takes away the bass too much. :no I think that NaNaNa 'needs Timmy'. lol

yeah i love the effort from ayu fans :P

I think Ayu's part would flow rather nicely there - it sounded like with proper precise editing in Sonic Foundry Acid Pro I could blend them nicely. But who knows I guess we will see but it might be my wishful thinking.

It's not about not listening to a song you don't like, it's about really liking a song but having to shake your head every time Timmy's opera voice comes out of nowhere, lol.

With NaNaNa, it's not only the fact that the rhyme's suck (I mean, "boys, noise, boys, choice...? I prefer a rhyming scheme of A, B, A, B or A, A, B, B - not A, A, A, A.) but the fact that he just mentions boys. I was expecting "all the gorgeous boys, and all the pretty girls" or something along those lines. I just feel like the whole song is some awkward attempt at a gay porn star trying to make a name in club music for himself. And the low-budget attempt at a PV doesn't help either. I could see Chris Crocker singing that ****.

Once Hikki fans edited Take 5 to give it a "proper" ending... Found it annoying too.. I mean, it's not the song anymore...

well I knew that Shake It PV will be mostly the "tbc" of NaNaNa and it does look a lil better than it :P I hope they had really fun, cause in NaNaNa it was the worst party'ing ever.

I love how there are a million fan-made covers for this album and I like them ALL better than the originals.

I mean, sure people can do it if they want to, but it's just...you're stripping it of something. I guess it's not really a big deal, but when people do it to songs I find epic...No, just no. Celestial Delinquent is awesome with its swears. She's trying to sound pissed, because of the message of the song. I just couldn't stand that someone had tinkered with that.

I feel like it's quite disrespectful to the artist. Using a song to create something new is completely fine and a great tribute to an artist but changing a song to "make it better" without any new artistic input is just plain...rude.

I don't like it and I think it's incredibly stupid.

But I'm not going to tell people what they can or can't do with their music.

I think the only time I ever edited a song, was Alan's Xin Zhan. I put the wail from the Japanese version into the chinese version...cause it's gorgeous lol

And the time I used different covers for a release...Utada's This is The One....cause that is the absolute worst cover I've ever come across.

That's what I think too, but ugh. This was just so wrong. And he/she put it up for download, on his/her blog! Eurgh.

At least remix it and make it awesome if you're gonna edit it. Speaking of, I hope DJ AMAYA is going to do something with at least a few tracks from PQ! *excited*

Oh my God it is not disrespectful, lol. Let the fans do what they want - everyone here is so PRO-OPINION so if they wanted to change things to their liking, let them.

Of course it's disrespectful. You are practically saying that you can improve a song someone else created and in the end you only rip the artistic vision of it apart.

Of course you can do whatever you want, I even understand to some degree, but just removing something from a song is rather disrespectful. If they didn't want it in there, they wouldn't have included it. But yeah, to each their own.

No one's telling them they can't. Go ahead. Throw AKB48 vocals in there too if you want lol

We're just gonna tell you what we think about it.

Anyways, I don't think it's "disrespectful" exactly...people have a right to change an art piece to fit them, but in this case I think it's dumb. I wouldn't go through so much trouble. Just listen to the song in entirety :shrug

I didn't find his rapping to be that big a deal. It's not even like he's doing it for a long time.

I do hope Timmy won't feel bad about it though...but he's cool, so I'm sure he'll be fine.

so cool, I was checking CDJapan and they already have Party Queen in stock! :o ♥
which means I'll receive my copy before the release date :D

Disrespectful? It's really not like people are changing whole songs, melodies, e.t.c. But let say they did - do you find remixes disrespectful too? For me, if the chanting in RR wasn't there I would listen to it ALL THE TIME. Not more than I would listen to reminds me and Tell me why but you get the picture. And for me that small chanting is so freaking annoying that I almost can't bare it. So you pretty much say to me - choose and stick with it. Either I start to enjoy those out of place chantings or I should stop listen to a song that for me is so nearly perfection? Geez...

And just for your information I will find it hard to edit that chanting out so I will keep the original version and listen to it as it is. I will just have to go to my happy place in those places the chanting excists and calm myself from not banging my head in the desk.

I don't mind his voice in NaNaNa at all, I like it lol

^I agree. I just don't see what the big deal is with Timmy's vocals. Who cares? I just feel like, you either like the song with his vocals or you don't. It seems like a whole lot of trouble to edit the song to cut his part and/or other parts you don't like out. Then it becomes another thing entirely. But whatever people want to do, I guess.

I wrote that using a song or parts of it to create a new piece of art is completely fine. Just cutting something out of a song because you don't like it is disrespectful. One is a compliment to the artist by using their work as one part of something new, the other is an insult to an artist by placing yourself above them.

However, I've never told anyone what to do or not to do, I just stated my opinion on it.

Really. This is not a big thing for me. The one who makes this "editing-issue" is you. Taking out a couple of ""whoaohoh" isn't chaning the song nor disrespecting the artist. In your world I guess I'm an extremely disrespectful fan then. How dare I even try to edit some of Ayu's photos from different photoshoots into my own liking for an example? Shame on me!

I love AHS drama. It consists of people taking one or two sentences completely out of context. Read my whole post before you reply please. And if you have read it again until you'll actually take it into context.

This actually reminds me of a conversation I once had with my art professor.

He was telling me about these people he knew in Africa that once received a sculpture from some artist. And the first thing they did with it, was add all these nails and studs to the sculpture.

And he said that his other friend saw them doing this, and freaked out, cause they were altering the artwork. But their reasoning was, that in their culture, whenever they receive an art piece, they immediately alter it to make it theirs, and it becomes something special that way.

It was supposed to be a commentary on how "attached" we are to our artworks. And how we horde them and obsess over them, and how sometimes we forget that art is supposed to be shared.

Whatever. It reminds me of this. A little. I don't think it's disrespectful....in that sense, but I think it's just a little more sad that you're taking away something very specific, instead of adding, or changing, just because you can't appreciate it, or see the value in it.

That's the difference anyway.

No no darl that was not out of context. Like I wish there haven't been a couple of "whoaohoh" in RR and would if I could but now I can't, edit them out. Isn't that like me taking Ayu's covers from whatever album photshoot and edit them into a set within my own liking. Like changing her hair colour. Is that disrespectful for you too?

In the end this is just a matter of two different ways of seeing things. I don't see editing out a small chanting from RR as a disrespectful thing and you do. :)

I cannot even pretend to care about what people find of others who edit a track. Disrespectful? Let's call everyone who edits tracks disrespectful. In fact, Let's call the people who make alternate covers disrespectful at all! And while we're at it, let's call people who tag 浜崎あゆみ songs 'ayumi hamasaki' songs disrespectful.

But seriously, I cannot stand the part where Timmy (imo) basically ****s up the track so much that when I hear it I want to skip to an other song. Why not cut it out to make it more to my liking (and others), I definitely don't think it's disrespectful at all.

But whatever, reasoning with certain AHS-members is totally wasting time.

a) I was quite clearly saying that I am not telling anyone what to do and only stating my own opinion on the amtter just like the people that are going to edit something, which is why I don't get your reaction. Do it if you like, I just personally find it disrespectful.
b) I made a difference between changing something because you don't like it and creating a new work of art using elements of another. Which you seem to ignore. As I said, one is an insult("I can do it/make it better"), the other is a compliment("I like your work so much I incorperate it into a new piece of art")

You're simply a douchebag not even trying to get the whole point but instead picking out completely wrong assumptions and then even insulting the people that wrote them while YOU are the one ignoring the point on purpose. I'm not sure if you're dumb or trolling. Even after explaining something two or three times you tend to pick something completely different out of things that wasn't even meant and then you're stuck on it.

Since you don't seem to get it out of my answers already, let me point them up to you, just like you did for me.

a answer) I never said that you tried to make me not editing or whatever. I know you never said that I shouldn't do it or whatever. All I know that you said that you thought it was disrespectful. That's all I got from you. I was just trying to explain to you why I didn't take it as a hard matter as you and why I don't think it's disrespectful.

b answer) No I did not ignore what you said. How can you even get that from the things I have written? I have never said that "I can do it/make it better". I said I don't like it and for me it's such a downer that I wish I could have that small chanting edited out and RR would be one of my new huge Ayu favourites. I freaking adore everything about this song (except that whoahoahoa). That smashing on the piano, organs, vocals, lyrics, heavy feeling. Truly amazing. Only because I feel like that chanting is annoying doesn't make me into the whole "I can do it/make it better" section imo.

But like I said, it's just a matter of different oppinions and references. :)

Edit: Sorry for coming in again but, calling people douchebags is not really making things better. I'm sure you can have a reasonable discussion here without being offensive. Some of us simply don't enjoy the chaunting. That doesn't make us douchebags. It also doesn't mean that we don't get the picture of the song. We maybe just feel that the chanting doesn't have such a big impact to the song as you do. Again, different point of views. But it certainly doesn't make us into douchebags.

The pot calling the kettle black. You should learn how to handle conversations/discussions without swearing. I'm sure that the dumb douchebag award goes to you. Might as well add in the dramaqueen award.

It's interesting to see people's logic, or lack thereof, in their arguments.

Suffice it to say, the only person who's had a decent one, besides my wonderful self of course, is LoL. Mostly because his logic gets down to the very bottom, which is the difference of opinion.

MissElin, darling, I wish I knew WHY you thought it wasn't disrespectful, instead of just making analogies to editing pictures, and going off on LoL.

RayJ's arguements are a little more sound...though he did make some stupid analogies as well, like the whole romaji thing. What is that about. Just leave it out. That doesn't help you. Then your argument also goes down to difference of opinion...

which won't be settled. But I still find it comical to see people's thoughts on the matter.

omg...seriously, who cares?! -_-

For the record, I agree with your example. Everyone loves them some alternate covers, but seriously, if you want to argue being disrespectful to the music, you have to say the same about people who edit or change the covers. That is the visual part of their "work of art" - see how strongy Ayu herself felt about the covers to Party Queen and the message she was trying to get across.

And I seriously can't stand when AHS-ers throw out the words "troll" and "stan" anytime they get the chance or in the heat of an argument. Sorry just had to put that out there how stupid that is, lol.

u seriously have this conversation? lol let people do what they want
who cares

Wow, this blew out of proportions. Why can't we discuss things in a civil tone? Do whatever you want, holy crap.

emi, darling. I was exaggerating. Hence the 'But seriously' in the next paragraph. I fail to see how superior-isthisLOL? and you overlooked that. And I don't think you should be the one saying how 'stupid' ones analogies are either. :shakehead

I also find it comical that you point out how MissElin 'was going off on' isthisLOL?, while he bashed me (something what MissElin wasn't doing at all)... cronyism much?

Double post sorry!

Oh good. I think we overlooked that because of the way we see you. But nice, next time I'll give you more credit :)

His argument was superior because he didn't beat around the bush, and went directly to the end all, which was the disrespectful thing...which he was talking about for like a page, and he's been giving concrete reasons to defend his opinion, as much as I don't agree with it.

And...Miss Elin and him were going at it before he even called you a douchebag. While he was repeating the same argument, and she was...idk talking about pictures and such...and her posts kept getting longer and longer...without really going anywhere :shrug And I still don't really see a concrete reason as to why it's not disrespectful, which I'm sure would have satisfied LoL anyway.

And please don't think I like isthisLoL, or something. He's as much of a douchebag as you are...but his argument was better, for a longer amount of time. That's it.

Loving the album so far, finally getting a chance to listen to it all the way through! Man this week has been crazy! Excited for the Shake it PV!! I hope there's dancing :)

I am not going to join the discussion, because I have nothing to do that one.

I know it has to do with taste or whatsoever, but I actually think this is a rude thing to say. For example: I don't mind Timmy's voice. His rap is quite catchy in NaNaNa and he is doing fine chanting in the background. I think that he just give that extra right touch. In Return Road his chanting was something extra. In NaNaNa his rap was something extra. In How Beautiful You Are and BRILLANTE his chanting was everything but bad and annoying.
I actually prefer Ayu chooses an artist she works fine with than that she chooses random Western artists featuring in her songs. Timmy is just that little extra she needed for fresh new material. And who cares? They did a great job, right?

Besides, who knows that the track would be lots better without Timmy. Perhaps, if Timmy wasn't chanting in those songs, you were missing something that would ******** up the track?

I will say that while I do like Timmy's compositions, I really dislike his voice being on ayu's tracks...like the rap on NaNaNa is so horrible and cheesy. I wish they would have left it out. :( Still love the track though.

^ yep...

I hate to be in the other conversion, but isn't editing the track to something you like more just a remix?

^^No, I did it with Kumi's Poppin' love cocktail to edit out TEEDA as much as possible because I like the song but HATE his inclusion in it... so it just makes the track listenable for me. lol

maybe rather than "remix" it's more of an "edit" :P

Please, if you can remove Timmy's vocals, please share the song here, Onegai !!

^^I agree...LOL

^^Yes please! The next remix contest should be for all PQ tracks with his vocals taken out of them!

Every once in a while there are always members who pop up claiming to be infallible music aficionados. This too shall pass.

his backing vocals dont bother me, NaNaNa bothers me the most...
but oh well.

LMAOOOO @ shake it's pv on the commercial!! at least it looks fun

^^OHHH forgot about that since I was so busy at work today... *runs off to watch now*

uhh...where can I find it? lol

^ you are not missing much... it is HORRIBLE!

you can't say it is horrible since it isn't out yet lol

but I'm not expecting anything at all from it

^^Thanks...I'll wait for the full version to form an opinion lol

wisest post of the last 3 pages lol.

Seeing by the CM I'm not so hyped for PVs to be honest. BUT I'll not judge too soon.

lol it's the other half of nanana.

I was talking about the CM, that is horrible.

yes, it looks like Shake It <3 and NaNaNa are connected, and Timmy is on the video too again!

Timmy's fans are going to be so happy, and some ayu fans are going to be so pissed

Speaking of Timmy...

He left that forum that he joined a while ago to read up on fans' opinions. His account no longer exists.

I wonder if we'll be getting better quality covers. I'm not satisfied with the quality of the current HQ covers.. :laugh

i wonder if he is even aloud to be publicly part of any forums?

Return Road, NaNaNa, Shake it, and Party Queen on repeat <3

so far i am okay with Timmy chorusing in ayu's songs: BRILLANTE, how beautiful you are, NaNaNA, Return Road (possible). just that i am not that happy to SEE him in half of the number of PV in this album. mostly because every time he appears beside ayu with some weird make up and costumes. and that dance also.

Shake it, Sha-shake it LALA ♥

Track times were posted on JBOOK and there is no bonus track it seems so no Happening Here.

i think its sad that NaNaNa and Shake it were on the same album.. i feel like Shake tried to be Nanana, but fails... I like both, but I think NaNaNa over shadows it...
but with the rapping, its just... i dont know, lol.

no Shake It PV yet?

^^I'm not surprised...I mean we got the album sooooo early, and I don't think Shake It was listed on SSTV yet...maybe they won't air it.

Although from the short preview from that CM, I'm guessing that any hopes I had of ayu dancing are now dashed...lol but oh well, it's all good.

I like every song on the album except shake it. It saddens me because it was one of the songs I was looking forward to the most but to me it sounds really cheap like my names WOMEN. But I am trying to let it grow on me. It's not really so bad. Best song on the album... it WAS Return Road but I finally heard reminds me in full today and WOW!!!!! Epic beyond epic. I'm addicted to NaNaNa, too. Timmy, auto-tune and all :laugh

^^That's how I feel...except instead of Shake It, it's E, S, M. Just can't get into it. Return Road is definitely epic though. And I'm loving the opening upbeat tracks of the album...despite the unnecessary rap in NaNaNa :/

Interesting. my name's WOMEN was also composed by BOUNCEBACK, haha.

Not gonna lie when I heard the rap in NaNaNa I thought it was a cheesey, hot mess lol. But I learner to have fun with it. It's not meant to be serious anyway.

^^Yeah, exactly. While I do wish it wasn't included, I can get over it and still love the track. It's hot :)

Oh God! :laugh

Did they do the arrangement too? Because that's what I really dislike. Not so much the composition.

Haha, for me is the opposite. I really liked both of them, but I think it's nice that Shake It is after NaNaNa in the tracklist, 'cause if it was before it would overshadow NaNaNa for me, I like Shake It more xD

^^I just like that they put a bunch of upbeat tracks together. It works for me ;)

I don't have high expectations for Shake It's PV, if its connected to NaNaNa's PV in anyway. Ayu and Timmy were acting like 12 year old girls that just got their first training bras and think they are hot **** with their posse, going to a hot "party" with boys and ginger ale.

^^LMAO true story...I was hoping for an awesome dance PV, but it looks like it'll just be them screwing around. sigh

HAL did the arrangement.

Shake It♥'s PV is going to be a DOOZY. I wonder what people are going to think of the "Come here b****!" text that Ayu gets from Timmy (I think). I wonder if they had a Japanese translation of what the text said because a Japanese TA member who went wrote "早く来いよ！ビッチ." as what was on the cell phone which basically says "Hurry up and come over here! B****!".

She probably should have made PVs for songs post-taskebab as opposed to the ones beforehand because they really seem like the "HAHAHAHA you think this is what the album's gonna be? YOU JUST GOT AYUROLLED BY WHAT'S TO COME." tracks.