^Well, according to what Ayu had said about their break up, it was because they felt more like sister and brother than lovers, so why all of a sudden would that change? That's my opinion on it anyway.

I personally don't think it was sudden....and I don't think they were together for the full 7 years or whatever.

I'm sure they stayed together just for press purposes. Who knows how long they were actually together...

it's so hard for me to open the site. -_-

edit:
opened.
well I have been hoping for that since long time ago. go go get married XD

If it's true I don't think is too soon, maybe she still felt something towards him after all these years.
But who knows maybe she still feels that they are siblings.
:shakehead I give up

^ I feel the same way kinda.

I mean.. if they dated for seven years before (even if it was on and off) getting married now I guess would be cool...
But at the same time... bouncing from one husband like that to another is just... off to me.

Isn't he with someone else? What's going on with that...

Also, sorry if I seemed rude, I didn't mean to attack your opinion Jackie. I know everyone it's saying they were together for seven years, but they've been apart for, what, five years? A lot has changed...

I never heard anything about Tomoya and that girl breaking up or whatever.
But if Ayu and Tomoya are going to marry (which I don't think they are), they should wait. Jumping from one marriage to another, the Japanese media will have a field day with that...plus it just makes Ayu look desperate in my opinion.

http://aibu-saki.livejournal.com/8757.html


scary what they say about him in the article, but you can clarify something.

I didn't even know that kind of ... porn.. existed, it's a bit disturbing of an article. I'm more or less indifferent to Nagase but I hope it's not true anyway.

haha I had heard something about Tomoya being addicted to porn before. There's another reason Ayu should head for open waters...

I saw an article about him being involved in a kind of scandal in a Gay bar, but this already a while.
it seems that is not free of rumors like most artists, although being a "hentai">. <is the worst I've read so far.
= O it made me think ayu a woman can be very hot. After all people scorpion has tendencies to eroticism and sensuality (he needs a partner to fuse with your imagination).

~ died

I don't get why people are so offended over porn. Like, "OMG! My boyfriend watches porn". My boyfriends would talk to me about the stuff they watched and I would just laugh.

^without heavily divulging into the issue, some people have reasons to dislike it. Some women view it as a form of cheating. Personally I don't have a huge problem with it either, but that kind sounds unsettling to me somehow. Personal opinions, no more than that.

LOL

Like Ayu isn't a freak.

Anyways, if he has an addiction, he should really do something to fix it. That is a relationship destroyer.

Addiction = / = watching it regularly.

Its all in that one episode of Sex and the City... lol

I doubt he really is an "addict", but again, I don't have proof either way. I just think, if he was a... strong fan, it shouldn't matter to those who are not in the relationship.

lol who knows. That article was hilarious though.

oh but I agree. people are always weird about stuff though.

This is gold. Hilarious. Lol

Oh dear this one got our of hand fast. I'd be less surprised if she gets together with one of her dancers after the divorce, like Jlo or Madonna.

YEAH! I hope it.... LOL~~~~~

What did I just read? :confused

I wonder what I'm going to wear to the wedding

O_O ......... well let's see ..

Here's the Tour note from Ayu's friend, no mention of anything from Ayu or her staff of what Tokyo Sports is claiming.

明日✨ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2012 A ～HOTEL Love songs～横浜公演にてDEICA実演販売✨皆様の宿泊に香りをそえさえていただきます��

how epic/weird if she performed M in a wedding dress and than got married on stage?!?!

For me all this just screams groundless rumor. (Especially that chinese comment - those are almost always incorrect). Maybe Ayu and Tomoya just met up again, being friends and all? It doesn't have to mean that they are back together. Even if they are, why would they decide to get married now? It would be bad timing for them. The only reason I could see is her being pregnant. Other than that I kind of doubt that Ayu is going to marry again. Especially not that soon after divorcing.

I don't want to start a discussion but I think I have to say this. Back then I never had any problems with porn and had nothing against it and would also just laugh. But related to my studies I had to focus on that topic (and also prostitution) because of a seminar paper.
To sum it up: more than 90% of those women who are porn actresses or prostitutes "by choice" were sexually abused in their childhood or raped in their teens. Because those women never learned something else then that they are nothing more than garbage to men they tend to become victims in the future too. (For the case someone's not believing this number just write me a PM and I give you links to sources which confirm this. Then you could decide for yourself if those sources are reliable or not)
The problem is that we are so to say brought up with porn and prostitution and everyone is telling us those women do this by choice just for money to buy nice things or even for fun, but sadly that's not the case. I read a lot about this topic and the living conditions those women are in. Afterwards I couldn't sleep for over a week because of nightmares. **** is better treated than those women.

I wasn't talking about the "dark shadows", shall we say, of porn, I actually learned a lot about that in school. But, not everyone knows about that, and the negative aspect of watching porn, for most people, comes from the fact that its just considered "perverted". From my experience, all the guys I've met like watching porn, even when they have girlfriends. I'm not speaking for all guys, of course and I'm also sure that most of the guys I've met don't really know what goes on in the "stars" lives. I just never got why girls seem so surprised and offended by guys liking porn, when most guys, especially those who are in their teens to early twenties, don't really mean any harm by it, its mostly hormones. I'm not blind to the conditions of the porn industry or think that all porn addictions are innocent. But, I don't think that the guys, at least the ones I've met, think when they are watching porn "Oh, yay! Time to watch the abused girls do derogatory things for money!". They just want... "release". Porn has some stuff that plays to the guy's fantasies that maybe they can't do with wives/girlfriends.

My point was that, if Nagase liked to watch a little porn every now and then he's not some gigantic pervert or bad person, he's a normal guy. And if it is ruining his life, its still not something to shame him over, its an addiction and that's something people should give him the privacy to deal with it. And that's if the tabloids are true.

^This... and even if most pornstars DO have a very troubled background, and tend to get into drugs addiction and have a bigger chance of getting AIDS and stuff, there are also some of them who actually just like doing porn... some being even very inteligent and well centered people. As I believe banishing porn from the world is impossible (in every media the world knows, from the first examples of literature to 3d Cinema, porn is always some of the first production done), I think the best thing we can do those girls (and prostitutes or any other sex worker) is making sure this kind of work has at least safe, healthy and good conditions for working. But I believe getting too deep on this subject is against AHS rules xD

About Nagase... Some stuff Ayu did hints pornographic aesthetics, such as furry, bondage, and stuff I don't think I should name over here, so, I think she watches porn herself to some extent...

Do you have a link to this tweet? I must have missed it xD Anyway, his perfect girl, Jessica Alba, is already taken, he was so sweet and totally nervous next to her recently, she made him almost forget his English :D



He starts talking about her in 3:00 :p

It would be really surprising to me if Ayu really went back to Nagase, I just don't see it. They broke in 2007, she said he was like a brother to her. Maybe that's what she needs right now, a guy that feels like a family.

I would die to see that happen!!! I VOTE YES! :luv2

kanaxshin isn't credible at all, so it might not even be true that Gackt said that. :p

that's why I ask for link, I never seen such tweet and I follow him myself, the only situation I imagine he could have said that would be in a joking context :p

^? I already wrote she's married in post #131, don't be rude :V

did they do a movie together or something???

haha...Gackt is so cute next to Jessica Alba! I don't blame him though. Jessica Alba is hot.
I hope the AyuxTomoya rumor dies off soon. :yes

this is recent?
THIS GUY NEVER AGES!!!
he's a robot I tell you.



how did we get from ayu's marriage to porn, jessica alba and gackt lmao.

NO that's not true. You also said this: (it seems that you've deleted the original post, like you did when we had a discussion earlier in another thread)
You should think 1000x before THINKING and then think 1000x more about insulting others, and then another 1000x before YOU post anything. :tired You might want to grab a calculator for that.

^^... lol... I thought that was a natural digression... hehe...
GACKT scares me, but I thing it is weird that he looks younger now than he did in 2004 when i first was introduced to him....
strange.

it's easy not to age when you have.....

and especially when you live in a place where....

lol

anyways. Nothing else has happened and that's...disappointing. Disappointed with you Manuel.

His appearance gets younger as he ages? I want what he puts in his coffee.

Gackt's like some sort of Benjamin Button, or whatever that movie was.

^ Ahhh... never thought about that...
lets give it another 10 years and see if he's in his teens!

I don't know if he looks younger, he's got truly man's body now, he gained muscles and weight, he's doesn't have a boy's body like few years ago, it was pleasure to watch him half naked in person in Germany :D :D :D

Gackt's a vampire, hence he doesn't age. Simple as that. :yes

^ Recently, he gave his true year of birth and admitted he's not 300 years old, I wonder if he got discouraged by the way vampires are pictured in recent movies ;) :D

^^ You know... :innocent It's because he's a vampire. :laugh

Isn't there like, some Japanese model who's 40 something and looks 20? Maybe he's doing her beauty regimen?

He was in Germany? I know, he filmed a Music-Video in Germany.. but was there something else?

And why there where Gackt together with Jessica Alba on that Interview?

I didn't pay attention but the video with Alba was about some Tommy Hilfiger store, don't know anything else, neither why Alba was there.

Gackt was in Germany in 2010 and 2011, actually he was in Poland, France, Spain, UK, Netherland, Russia, Hungary and Sweden with his YFC project World Tour concerts.

The dvds with Berlin and Makuhari concerts came out three weeks ago.

I wrote my concert review on my blog (of both actuall concert and dvd recording, it's very subjective) and posted some screens from the dvd.

http://sky-fits-heaven.blogspot.com/...tour-show.html

He was 2010 in Germany and gave concerts (which were sold VERY fast). And last year he was with "Yellow Fried ChickenZ" in Europe. I was at the concert in Munich. Well...what can I say? It was AWESOME!!

:love, he and Johnny Depp, apparently :) because Johnny's 48 OMG

Well you're posting on a FORUM, idiot. If you don't want me to reply you can PM people, so I don't have to catch you lying AND offending people again.

Stalker? You ****ing PMed me 3 times to remove one silly post. Ironic much? :roflmao LOL

edit: ~ make that 4 times, stalker! ~ :/

^ Both of you.... :no lol.

As for Johnny Depp... you can not put him in the same category as GACKT... you can look at him and tell he is getting older...

holy.
i had no idea. :O

Personally, I think Ayu would marry Timmy before she marries Nagase... :innocent

^ right... she would marry a gay man before she marries a brother...

AH! the chocies!

^chocies? TOO MUCH CHOCOLATE!! XD

^ wanna share some of that chocolate? :)

Honestly, if Ayu never got married again, I wouldn't be surprised. Not that its not going to happen, but I've always seen her as an independent, headstrong and non-Traditional kind of person. The type that is okay with being unmarried.

The girl needs to be in a relationship... I feel her music is at her best when she is in love (or at least in a relationship)

^ agreed. Wouldn't you love to hear a happy ballad from Ayu?

for me its not even that.
i mean happy ballads are good and all...
but look at I am, Rainbow, Memorial address, My Story, Missunderstood...
All done while she was in her relationship with Nagase..
Her high point, Duty-Memorial Address was her hightlight...

She just makes better music when she is in a relationship!

I had no idea she made those albums in a relationship. (i had no idea when she and Nagase dated, you see. I just know that they dated.)

There's loads of happy ballads..beloved just last year.

I think they dated from 201 to 2008/9?

Thats some of her best word for me (besides Guilty)
But I dont know if most of duty was done before or after she meet him...

Her relationship with Nagase was revealed to the public in spring 2001, around the time of A BEST promotions, but we didn't know how long they'd been together at that point. However, when they broke up in mid- to late-2007 she referred to him as "my lover of 7 years." So most of GUILTY happened as a result of the breakup (most obviously "(don't) Leave me alone," "decision," and the title track). I dunno when they got together exactly, and I have no idea how much of "Duty" was done before or after they got together, unfortunately. :( That said, looking at her lyrics, I think she probably got together with him after "Duty" was completed, because nothing on that album really screams "girl falling in love," it's just a very personal album. "M," however, seems to be written from the POV of a girl who's falling in love and is scared to death of it, so. My guess is they got together sometime between Duty and M.

^ I dont know... from some of the lyrics I get the feeling that she is starting to fall in love...
she also has the feelings of doubt and what not as well, but over all something is there (think of that spark you getting when first falling in love.)

i always wanted them to be together

I'm kinda indifferent about beloved as a ballad. It's both happy and sad. And smells kinda like CAROLS... kinda.

lol wtf
gotta be stupid as hell to believe this crap

I always read different things about when they started dating. Because I read, not even too long ago, that they started dating back during her "acting career". Which would be before 1998. Maybe that's when they met?

^ True, but meeting and start dating is two different things...

Ayumi said they had ended a 7 year relationship in 2007... I would assume that means dating...
But I also took her as "acting" back in 2000/1 when she did those videos (one of them being Voyage)

Oh, maybe. When I think acting I think the Sumomomomomo days.

yeah, I know she did some stuff as a teenager, but she wasn't really known...
I always thought about it when she did that stuff in 2000/1.

But of course, I dont think he was in any of it, so who knows how they met.
Of course you cant really argue the fact she said seven years in 2007...
the only real question is when they meet and when she started having feelings for the man...
who asked who out... blah blah blah... you know.

I believe that between ASFXX ~ Duty there was someone else than Nagase. I'm so sure about that, because many of the songs especially on Duty are breakup songs and after her and nagase went "official" her songs became more happier and lyrics more mature.

THIS:tipsy


:) yet Johnny looks not that old at all for me, really :D

^ im not saying anything bad about it, but when you compare the two actors, GACKT doesn't look like he has aged.

Where as Johnny has aged, but in a good way

(more OT-ness)^I can tell GACKT has aged, but maybe that is because I have been a fan of his for so long. Though, he hasn't aged a lot, he has definitely aged. So has Johnny Depp, but they age so gracefully. Both hot men. :luv2 Ayu isn't aging badly either, she still looks like she's in her mid 20's at least. :)

^ Which brings up the question: Why do some celebrities age with such grace and we common folk usually develop wrinkles, a 2nd bout of acne or something else? Some people are just lucky when they age? We're all human, you know...
I mean, I wanna look 20 when I'm 30 like Ayu. Does she have the elixir of life and isn't sharing?

^ Its called money.

^ Vitamin E and Collagen by the bucketload, in the form of pills or creams. lol it must cost millions :P

No, she simply Japanese, people.
On the other hand, it's funny that whenever I look at the forum, this tread is the first one. Don't you get tired of this? XD
Like the dogs chewing the same bone.
Sorry, if I was harsh.

some of my 22-24 year old friends have wrinkles already!! I'm 28 and I don't, but I never go to solarium and always (even in winter) wear creams with high SPF and UV+++, my mom is 52 and still doesn't have wrinkles! I hope I have her genes :D

I have Gackt's screencap from some Ghost live performance, his skin isn't perfect at all, his pores are visible even under make up (mine aren't after using BB cream) which is good, makes him more human :)



I like this topic, it combines Ayu, Gackt, love and beauty which can't be find anywhere else, I'm just curious when we'll get kicked for getting too much off topic ;)

Good make-up, good lightining, good photos, photoshop ^~
http://celebritycloseup.tumblr.com/

That's a VERY misleading tumblr account since it sets contrast up to crazy levels to reveal "flaws" that, under normal conditions and without upping the contrast, would never be visible.

^If the goal is showing that everyone has skin imperfections, I guess it works well enough... Nobody looks pretty when looked this closely :P And the acne for example, would still be there even without the contrast...

It wouldn't look nearly as extreme though :P
My problem with this site is rather that many people misunderstand it and think that's what the celebrities really look like which...simply isn't true.

Oh.. I didn't noticed. I only noticed Kokia gave a concert in cologune.
I don't like the music of YFC.
Munich would be a bit far from me. (^_^)

that website is scary.
Ditto

i think it's just about taking care of your skin. regularly cleansing, moisturizing and wearing sun screen always helps. :D

Seriously :laugh

lol from Ayu getting married to nagase rumour thread to who's looking more aged thread xD only on AHS! i thnk this means it's time to closse this thread, because there's nothing else to be disscused on the original topic xD

probably lol


and...idk Ayu looks old to me...a lot of the time these days. She looks mid 30s to me.

And GACKT as well.

Yeah Ayu definitely look older now. It's like all those years she didn't seem to age much caught up with her this past year (and then some). Lol.

Hmmmm. I think Ayu has aged quite well. I think it's the amount of makeup that she has been wearing (especially around her eyes) lately and the non-Ayu suiting wigs (*cue MOON/blossom covers*) that have suddenly aged her these past two years.

I wish she'd bring back her 2008 look. ;)

She still looks like she's in her early/mid 20's in her behind the scenes stuff to me.

Vitamin E costs nothing, but collagen does cost too much

back on the topic of aging, no, I don't think Ayu ages well. till A BEST 2 she looked as if slightly aging, yet so purrfect, but after I really could see her getting older...hmm. maybe it does have to do with her awful make-up & not-so-good hair nowadays, though.
to cut it short, Kuu & Namie does it better :)

I think she looks fine now...
I mean she looks like she is in her 30's, (which she is) but a tired 30's..

Ayu always looks a lot older when she has short hair. A BEST, MY STORY, FIVE eras... :P She had short hair for like a year, so maybe everyone's picturing that? haha

I never thought about that, but yes.. I think she looks younger and better with long hair...