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love in music 27th September 2012 02:55 AM

As long as Timmy isn't rapping in the songs I'm okay.
I loved ESM/the next LOVE too. Both are very unique songs in her discography that show off a different side to her. I was a SLT lover as well for that reason. :)

koumori 27th September 2012 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kagami (Post 2913059)
ESM/the next LOVE are fabulous songs :/

Although I don't like them personally, it's nice to see some love for her more disliked songs. No matter what she does, it's good to see she has an audience. :)

truehappiness 27th September 2012 03:31 AM

I do like that most Ayu releases have very different songs from what she usually does for album tracks (kiss o' kill, Eyes, Smoke, Magic, the next LOVE, Sexy little things, Like a doll, do it again, and so on) but we usually only get one or two of them per album which makes them rather special. It's also kind of funny to see people completely against these songs existing sometimes though in some other cases, people loooove them.

TeamAyu2004 27th September 2012 03:33 AM

^ thannnnnk goodness!

Delicious n Bold 27th September 2012 04:16 AM

do it again is muh jam! XD
You think kiss o kill is one of the 'unique' songs? I don't think so. It's just an epic track... I guess it is unique XD

truehappiness 27th September 2012 06:45 AM

Well, she doesn't have many other tracks with children's choirs -and- chainsaw noises in them, haha.

happiholic★ 27th September 2012 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2913018)
Depends on what Ayu asks for really.

I'd hope for BRILLANTE/how beautiful you are level rather than ESM/the next LOVE (fan outcry was horrible for those) BUT it seems like Ayu is probably over her musical/Broadway phase so hopefully whatever he does could end up as an electropop number or a sweeping ballad.

Oh, I don't mean a song that sounds like Brilliante, but rather something that has the same epicness about it. Whatever headspace he was in when he made this song I want him in again if he's going to be around.

@ExodusUK: After Timmy's drunken Twitter rant I assume everything that he posts on Twitter was done so while drunk.

tokyoxjapanxfan 27th September 2012 07:48 AM

I always loved loved loved her voice in kiss o' kill.

One of the few stand out tracks on that album, which remains low in my favorites list lol.

happiholic★ 27th September 2012 08:06 AM

Aw, I like that album.

Mari-chan 27th September 2012 11:36 AM

I really hate Eyes Smoke Magic. I can't listen to that song. I think, it is the worst Ayu-Song ever, for me.

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 27th September 2012 10:25 PM

I honestly feel ESM works well ONLY as a live type of song.

That said,i love the lyrics.

mizuki-7 27th September 2012 11:32 PM

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I honestly feel ESM works well ONLY as a live type of song.
:yes

pheonixflame15 28th September 2012 12:42 AM

"And unless he's bringing his Billiante-level game for composing he needs to bugger off". ~happiholic

^
THIS!!!

Minttulatte 28th September 2012 12:38 PM

Sometimes I really feel like the only one here who loves the next LOVE and Eyes, Smoke, Magic. Everything about these two songs is perfect to me. I also wonder if you felt the same hate towards these songs if they were released in 2001-2002 instead. :D

Timmy should definitely have at least one song on one of these 'mini albums' Ayu's releasing, then my life's complete. *_*

mizuki-7 28th September 2012 01:20 PM

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Sometimes I really feel like the only one here who loves the next LOVE and Eyes, Smoke, Magic
I enjoy these songs too :thumbsup

~StarCatcher~ 28th September 2012 03:12 PM

Me too=)

I like nearly all of her songs that sound unique!

Minttulatte 28th September 2012 03:31 PM

Good that I'm not the only one :D

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 28th September 2012 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by drdolce (Post 2913719)
I also wonder if you felt the same hate towards these songs if they were released in 2001-2002 instead. :D

Because everyone loves that era...
And no, I'd still completely detest that song. For one, I hate musicals and showtunes and this song reminds me of those type of songs so much. The other being that I dislike most of 2001-2002's songs (2003 Ayu was on point) so... don't get sore if the majority dislikes a song you don't.

Eewyi 28th September 2012 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by drdolce (Post 2913749)
Good that I'm not the only one :D

Nice to hear that at least some people like these songs as well. Because I absolutely love them..Though I feel like I generally like more the songs others are hating anyway XD

Mai82Go 28th September 2012 04:11 PM

I wonder what these highly emotional tweets from Ayu and Naoya are about. In tweeting all this they just make people curious. It really sounds like someone important to them died, or something life-changing happened. I wish they would keep stuff like this private. Now I'm curious and keep just wondering, what it's all about.

TeamAyu2004 28th September 2012 05:26 PM

^ what tweets??

Mai82Go 28th September 2012 05:28 PM

^Well, the tweets they are sending to each other. ?_?

TeamAyu2004 28th September 2012 05:30 PM

hmmm... i havent seen any from Naoya...
do i have to follow him to get them to ayumi?

happiholic★ 28th September 2012 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdolce (Post 2913719)
Sometimes I really feel like the only one here who loves the next LOVE and Eyes, Smoke, Magic. Everything about these two songs is perfect to me. I also wonder if you felt the same hate towards these songs if they were released in 2001-2002 instead. :D

Timmy should definitely have at least one song on one of these 'mini albums' Ayu's releasing, then my life's complete. *_*

I do love the next LOVE, but I don't like ESM. I love the lyrics, and they even fit the song in a way, but her voice, the sound effects they just grate my nerves.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 28th September 2012 10:54 PM

ew, tweets between ayu and naoya? i'm good. lol thank God there are no duets on this new single

TeamAyu2004 29th September 2012 01:17 AM

^ true that...
I like them both, but really not together...

Pieces_of_SEVEN 29th September 2012 01:23 AM

^I just don't really care for naoya. Haven't ever listened to his boy bands music. And definitely don't want him collaborating with ayu again. haha

njanjayrp 29th September 2012 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2913985)
^I just don't really care for naoya. Haven't ever listened to his boy bands music. And definitely don't want him collaborating with ayu again. haha

AAA isn't a boy band. They are actually one of the rare idol units that has both male and female singers/dancers. Their music is mostly classic JPOP. You should at least try their stuff like 負けない心, 逢いたい理由 (composed by TK), Heart & Soul or ダイジナコト. They were supposed to be a more up-to-date version of TRF and globe, but imo they are way better :) Their music is nothing like Naoya's ultra boring solo stuff.

TeamAyu2004 29th September 2012 01:38 AM

^ I agree... he is much better in AAA then by himself...

Pieces_of_SEVEN 29th September 2012 01:39 AM

^Didn't mean to sound ignorant, I guess I was just uninformed. :) Thanks for informing me though. I'll check out the stuff you recommended, as I'm always up to see if I like new music.

TeamAyu2004 29th September 2012 01:43 AM

^ I would go with Heartful.. its really good music... it kinda reminds me of ayumi's I am era... fast and great.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 29th September 2012 01:45 AM

^If that's true, I should definitely like it! haha

Chibi-Chan 29th September 2012 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2914009)
^ I would go with Heartful.. its really good music... it kinda reminds me of ayumi's I am era... fast and great.

Yeah, Heartful is really good!

ExodusUK 29th September 2012 03:30 AM

Mm Timmy just tweeted Corin (Composer of NaNaNa), hope he's doing another song for Ayu~

TeamAyu2004 29th September 2012 03:35 AM

^ oh, NO!!

SURREAL__RAINBOW 29th September 2012 03:36 AM

YES! I love NaNaNa :P

Pieces_of_SEVEN 29th September 2012 03:39 AM

Hm...I guess this could go either way...lol

tokyoxjapanxfan 29th September 2012 04:58 AM

The composition of nanana is good!

TeamAyu2004 29th September 2012 05:18 AM

i think the rap gets to me... lol

SURREAL__RAINBOW 29th September 2012 05:33 AM

Yeah I agree. I think it would be as amazing as Sparkle was without Timmy, or at least if his part wasn't that long :shrug Sorry Timmy, but it's true. I like him in general, but yeah.

I would be excited if that guy worked with ayu again!! :love

Pieces_of_SEVEN 29th September 2012 06:00 AM

Yeah, I dislike the NaNaNa rap also....lol

happiholic★ 29th September 2012 09:04 AM

+1 for the NaNaNa rap hate. Its so... basic. I mean, I know that Timmy is no rapper, but what was Ayu smoking when she approved this? I think she was just overly excited to have him on the album.

Minttulatte 30th September 2012 12:53 PM

Yes for more NaNaNa kind of songs! *__*

BlackSilence 30th September 2012 01:07 PM

"Listen to my voice, you don't have a choice" lol that line in NaNaNa is priceless because so many people don't like him in that song xD I personally think he sounds ridiculously isexy in an ironical kind of way xD I wouldn't mind an other song like that, i thought the dark sound/melody was really good, they should have done 2 versions of it one with Timmy's rap one without :mischief

TeamAyu2004 30th September 2012 05:23 PM

^ It's not timmy I dislike.. it's the rap.

Someone else cold of done it and it would of still been bad...
The overall song was okay, but that rap man...

AyuWorld 30th September 2012 06:19 PM

OT but when is Ayu's birthday? omd i almost forget it

Chibi-Chan 30th September 2012 07:39 PM

^On October 2nd^^

stepYOU1234 30th September 2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2914599)
^ It's not timmy I dislike.. it's the rap.

Someone else cold of done it and it would of still been bad...
The overall song was okay, but that rap man...

Ditto! I enjoy Timmy's composing overall, but the rap... :irked

kagami 1st October 2012 12:18 AM

I always thought the rap was supposed to sounds stupid and be kinda ironic...

TeamAyu2004 1st October 2012 12:24 AM

I think it's supposed to be as simple as possible because it is for japanese audiences...
Me thinks it was written by ayumi??

happiholic★ 1st October 2012 02:27 AM

Its just Timmy's rapping skills, or lack thereof, that ruin it. If Ayu had picked someone else to do it who had skill in that area it could have been good, I think.

TeamAyu2004 1st October 2012 02:50 AM

^ I dont think so... timmy has no rapping skills, but its because of the simple english... its just not a good rap.

happiholic★ 1st October 2012 03:28 AM

The lyrics aren't that bad to me, besides the double negative of "you don't have no choice" so I could see someone else pulling it off. Kuu's Engrish rapping is good in Lay Down.

TeamAyu2004 1st October 2012 03:54 AM

^ She doesn't rap in Lay Down... are you sure you have the right song?

Besides, you cant really compare the two songs. An English person speaking in simple english is going to sound bad compared to a japanese person speaking in simple english.

happiholic★ 1st October 2012 04:03 AM

^The verses are in a rap/sing song voice. Its not quite singing like Ai no Uta.

Anyway, I said that if Ayu had chosen a better person it would have sounded better. So, perhaps a Japanese person would have been the better choice. I was in no way comparing the songs in any respect besides rapping skills.

TeamAyu2004 1st October 2012 04:07 AM

^ okay :)

I just dont agree.. it happens. :p

emi♡ 1st October 2012 05:16 AM

I thought the rap was supposed to be basic like that :shrug Which is why I don't care about it. It has an older rap jpop feel to it for me. Or at least, it reminds me of some older songs that have basic raps in them I guess.

I don't feel it would have been better or worse with someone else.

I can live without it. I don't need anyone in ayu's songs except ayu.

happiholic★ 1st October 2012 06:01 AM

Well, my opinion is based on what I don't like about the rap. For me, its simply Timmy's voice/style of rapping. Personally, I think that if perhaps someone else had done it the rap wouldn't get on my nerves as much.

If someone doesn't like it because they just want Ayu on the track then it won't matter who raps it at all.

If someone doesn't like it because of the lyrics being too Engrish or basic then that's due to Ayu's writing and not Timmy's skill/voice.

pommy48 1st October 2012 06:13 AM

I don't really mind the rap, but when I pair up Timmy's look and the voice, I can't help but laugh out loud.

Zeke. 1st October 2012 06:48 AM

I just can't get over the fact that it sounds like a song for a gay porn star.

happiholic★ 1st October 2012 08:43 AM

^:roflmao

Yeah, there is that, too.

Yoake 1st October 2012 09:41 AM

Could people stop to be off-topic? Go to the Ayu chat room to talk about that! We're in the Ayu twitter thread not in the I like/hate Timmy's rap.

Andrenekoi 1st October 2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by emi♡ (Post 2914842)
I thought the rap was supposed to be basic like that :shrug Which is why I don't care about it. It has an older rap jpop feel to it for me. Or at least, it reminds me of some older songs that have basic raps in them I guess.

I don't feel it would have been better or worse with someone else.

I can live without it. I don't need anyone in ayu's songs except ayu.

So, I guess she should get this road next time:

:P

ExodusUK 1st October 2012 04:16 PM

Tweet about the recording of a new song?

新曲のレコーディング中なう。この曲めっっっちゃ難しい、、、_| ̄|○すんごい苦戦してて、すんごい悔し い。けど、ぜってー負けねー!

jbrat2219 1st October 2012 04:20 PM

^ Sounds exciting! I wonder if it is a dark song?

ExodusUK 1st October 2012 04:21 PM

Saw this on FB, seems Ayu sent this for the opening of Go-mi's bar
http://i.imgur.com/piBSg.jpg

Maybe ideal place for AHSers to drink after seeing Ayu live~?

jennjenn2010 1st October 2012 04:48 PM

I find a lot of times I will absolutely hate a song so much I can't stand to listen to it, but then I'll look up the lyrics and from then on I will love it lol. Damn Ayu and her beautiful lyrics. :love

SURREAL__RAINBOW 1st October 2012 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ExodusUK (Post 2914963)
Saw this on FB, seems Ayu sent this for the opening of Go-mi's bar
http://i.imgur.com/piBSg.jpg

Maybe ideal place for AHSers to drink after seeing Ayu live~?


AHHH I need to look it up lol I'm sooo gonna try and go there :D

TeamAyu2004 1st October 2012 07:08 PM

Oh cool! He opened a bar?? Gotta go!

AyuWorld 1st October 2012 08:28 PM

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まだレコーディング終わんねーどこんなろ( ꒪Д꒪)ちょっと点滴打つ事にしたどこんなろ( ꒪Д꒪)したっけスグ蘇るどこんなろ( ꒪Д꒪)
the Queen is even celebrating her birthday in the studio tonight!! it's 3:30 am in Japan now! >.<

saigodansu 2nd October 2012 05:47 AM

Birthday messages to Ayu


NAtsuKi‏@Natsukikey

I just wanted to say I am thankful to have met you and have you in my life. ��✨


NAtsuKi‏@Natsukikey

Today is the special day that someone as precious as you were born.

NAtsuKi‏@Natsukikey

If you are laughing, that's all I am wishing for. I'm celebrating today because it is the day that I met someone as special as you.

NAtsuKi‏@Natsukikey

I love you. More than anyone. More than anything. Cant think living life without you.

emi♡ 2nd October 2012 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2914934)
So, I guess she should get this road next time:

:P

Maybe...not. She can't sing that well.


@saigo...did anyone else tweet her for her birthday?

saigodansu 2nd October 2012 07:31 AM

None of the few I follow, I quit following the ones who tweet every few minutes, my netbook doesn't scroll tweets fast enough to keep up. If anyone has a desktop pc to check I'm sure there are more.

saigodansu 2nd October 2012 07:38 AM

@emi Found one more

RYAN CHAN‏@nootak

DEAREST @ayu_19980408 ♡ HAPPY BIRTHDAY!UR GREATEST LOVE HAS MADE ME A BETTER PHOTOGRAPHER & I'LL CONTINUE 2 CAPTURE THE BEAUTY IN U w/ LOVE.

Andrenekoi 2nd October 2012 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by emi♡ (Post 2915171)
Maybe...not. She can't sing that well.


@saigo...did anyone else tweet her for her birthday?

Studio magic! It (kinda) worked for the past 14 years, it will (kinda) work this time again xD

truehappiness 2nd October 2012 10:57 AM

I wonder if she's still recording Memory and Missing.

elvis810 2nd October 2012 01:00 PM

Sounds like he will shoot the cover for LOVE~


Quote:

Originally Posted by saigodansu (Post 2915179)
@emi Found one more

RYAN CHAN‏@nootak

DEAREST @ayu_19980408 ♡ HAPPY BIRTHDAY!UR GREATEST LOVE HAS MADE ME A BETTER PHOTOGRAPHER & I'LL CONTINUE 2 CAPTURE THE BEAUTY IN U w/ LOVE.


isthisLOL? 2nd October 2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2915194)
Studio magic! It (kinda) worked for the past 14 years, it will (kinda) work this time again xD

I was just listening to A Song for XX and realized how bloody painful the autotuning on some tracks is like...holy ****, the autotuning on some Ke$ha tracks is more subtle. I never realized how awful her vocals used to be, mainly because I rarely, rarely listen to anything from ASfXX in studio version.

TeamAyu2004 2nd October 2012 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by elvis810 (Post 2915221)
Sounds like he will shoot the cover for LOVE~

oh... man!
GIVE ME SOMEONE DIFFERENT! :irked

BlackSilence 2nd October 2012 08:53 PM

Leslie posted this on Twitter with wishes for Ayu's birthday....

http://a.yfrog.com/img576/7810/4xfnt.jpg

It's the other pic ofthat hideous vivi cover....and i have a very bad feeling about this whole thing....i'm scared they might just pull of an other Party Queen cover here and use the photoshoot they did already ages ago...

Aderianu 2nd October 2012 09:00 PM

Black n white picture and red text on it... m, yep, thats Leslie style >_<

no no no, she cant use old photoshoot for anniversary album

isthisLOL? 2nd October 2012 09:01 PM

Leslie is an incredible photographer, but he REALLY is no good at text.

BlackSilence 2nd October 2012 09:06 PM

he's horrible with text... and sometimes it seems that his copyright importance (it is importaint i know ) is way bigger deal than his talent.... :rolleyes

if the'd end up using, i'll officially start hatting avex for being lazy and cheap...>_<

TeamAyu2004 2nd October 2012 09:07 PM

Im rather impressed with that picture...
I think that team makes good pictures (Ryan too) but they just have bad discussions on which one to use.

TeamAyu2004 2nd October 2012 09:09 PM

Oh no!

I just noticed that VENUS and PARIS are all in caps... much like LOVE (which is a title)
I wonder if that is a clue or a hint at two other titles for up coming works???

I might just be putting too much into it though.

Cornie 2nd October 2012 09:11 PM

This picture is actually good, but i want something new for the love cover.

hidekirby 2nd October 2012 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by artcika (Post 2915336)
Leslie posted this on Twitter with wishes for Ayu's birthday...

It looks terrible!

TeamAyu2004 2nd October 2012 09:59 PM

What is that photo shoot from again??

krazeyo 2nd October 2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2915344)
Oh no!

I just noticed that VENUS and PARIS are all in caps... much like LOVE (which is a title)
I wonder if that is a clue or a hint at two other titles for up coming works???

I might just be putting too much into it though.

Haha PARIS for a title would be strange. I'd like VENUS though :P I think you're reading too much into it. It's just leslie saying something like 'with love from paris' haha

BlackSilence 2nd October 2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2915352)
What is that photo shoot from again??

http://zyrex.org/gallery/Ayumi1/Ayumi-mags/ViVi/37/

Sandy 2nd October 2012 10:31 PM

^ Hmm... I don't hate that picture. But if it'll be a cover, I'll scream >.<

TeamAyu2004 2nd October 2012 11:14 PM

interesting photoshoot...
I think it proves my point that they pick bad pictures for official use... lol

saigodansu 2nd October 2012 11:32 PM

That was one of the worst photoshoots I've ever seen of anyone. Whoever selected the male models should have went to Macy's and grabbed some mannequins that look more alive instead of like a Ken doll who breeded with Chucky.

truehappiness 3rd October 2012 03:08 AM

Sounds like Ryan is doing the shoot... which means they're not going to use an old shoot.

PLEASE DON'T PROCESS IT LIKE YOU DID WITH PARTY QUEEN'S. His offshot shoots imo are so much better.

happiholic★ 3rd October 2012 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2915344)
Oh no!

I just noticed that VENUS and PARIS are all in caps... much like LOVE (which is a title)
I wonder if that is a clue or a hint at two other titles for up coming works???

I might just be putting too much into it though.

I thought the exact same thing. And I could see Ayu doing it.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 3rd October 2012 05:38 AM

I was gonna say that you guys have 5 chances to like the new shoots, that is if we get 5 different ones for the new releases, but the fact is that you have 5 chances to complain :laugh

emi♡ 3rd October 2012 05:41 AM

I just hope they're not so overexposed that I can't see her nails.

love in music 3rd October 2012 07:49 AM

Her nose looks like a piece of plastic glued onto her face in that picture

BlackSilence 3rd October 2012 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2915361)
interesting photoshoot...
I think it proves my point that they pick bad pictures for official use... lol

everyone realizd this by now :innocent

i didn't mind PQ much in terms of her face, but i'm not very fond of the recycling idea here....don't pull off a GACKT, Ayu, please? lol

i wonder what would happpen if you'd take away stylists, make-up artists, hair stylists & HQ equipment and leave only Leslie & Ayu on the set, i wonder how would his "talent" make it work without all these things, because now, the only times his works looked good, was because of the overall image, nothing spectacular in the photography itself. most of the times he gets bad angles that make Ayu look very very weird.

truehappiness 3rd October 2012 08:38 AM

RAINBOW was just Leslie and Ayu since she was nude and that came out okay, iirc.


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