When it comes to relationships of any kind, 'appears' is my bible.
So many truths in that song.

I agree! :yes

the problem with this announcement is that it effects everyone differently.
But I dont know if effect is the right term... I just mean that there are soooooooo many different ways that people view love and how it effects people.. thats why their are sooo many different reactions.

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These things happen everyday in the world ! Ayu is not the first and will not be the last ... considering that nothing is confirmed maybe Maro is divorced since a long time but journalists want juste bashing Ayu !

While I do agree with your comment, I feel that some of the information given regarding their relationship has been conflicting. Some have said that he's been divorced for a few years now while others say he is still in the process of getting divorced which would mean that he is currently married. Is there any solid evidence from reliable sources that pertains to his marital status? Has his wife/ex-wife, Maro, or Ayu confirmed if the allegations are true or not? I would personally like to avoid jumping to conclusions regarding this situation but at the same time, I feel confused about what's really going on as I'm not sure what's true or false with the information we've been given.

I think that they already know what the article would be about. So Maro already acknowledge it in his blog. So it's pretty much true about the info.

It's not just Asia. These feelings towards 3rd parties are everywhere.

Personally though, I don't think Ayu has to care about any of Maro's private life. It's none of her business. But that's my opinion. I've been told it's a rather selfish opinion, so. I know a lot of people think differently.


But dear god, especially if he's been divorced since 2010 like it seems like he has been. I swear. How dare the media try to paint it like his divorce isn't final, and all this crap.

It's just to slander her really. And it's disgusting.

I don't think she should have to keep quiet. Maybe it would be better. But maybe she just didn't want to this time. She has that right.

Maybe it's just the translation, but did he really use "solemnly"? That's like serious with sad undertones.

I'm always surprised that people are always mad at the woman when a man cheats on his wife (not at all saying Ayu did this, btw). I mean, that woman has no obligations to the wife. Its the man who made the vows.

But, that's just me.

I think Ayu was stuck between a hard and a rock place:

If the scenario plays out that Maro and Ayu are dating and the tabloids spill; we would be very upset once we see the "again" album covers. I think a lot of people would think "Ayu never announced it, and now she is using tabloids to bring news to her. What a cheap publicity act!"

Better for her to announce it now before other people announce it for her...

since he has changed his surname, isn't that mean he has divorced??

It's probably better for Maro to clarify if he is divorced or not...

I think now everyone it's just speculating about this, too many personal, economic interests in the middle.
Honestly i wouldn't approve Ayu to be a 3rd part in a relationship, but it's not my business..
I just hope, when somebody is the 3rd one that he/her is the love of the life so the intrusion is not vain.

I just came to think about that probably Ayu had other 'unofficial' relationships she hasn't told us about. so...

Definitely. People always get mad at "that other woman" when the man is the one that decides to cheat on his wife. And even considering that, we don't know if there even IS such a situation here. For all we know the couple could have been living apart for a couple months or years before Maro and Ayu happened. The relationship could have been over completely already with them just waiting for their divorce to be finalized. We don't even know for sure when they divorced or if the divorce is final. Just assuming that Ayumi came in and broke them up or something is a horrible, horrible way to look at somebody you don't even know.

^+1 :yes

Is there really people thinking Ayu broke Maro's marriage? I'm horrified... I mean, that just doesn't really fit Ayu at all. She's so sweet. How could she do something like that anyway? :O It's so hard for me to believe in such possibility that I won't even try.

I think she had plenty.
We tend to idealize her as a supenatural creature, a goddess or so..but in the end she's a 34 years-old girl who has her own life apart from showbusiness like everyone else.
And I don't think she's better or worse than everyone else here.

she broke up with Nagase in 2007 and begin to date with Mannie in 2010. Few years without sex? I'm sure she had some relationship =)

its both really... both sides need more self control.

besides, we have yet gotten the whole story, and Ayumi has already said we are not going to get it....

Or not. We don't know and really it's none of our business lol

She's a bit of a workaholic, we all know that, when you focus on your career and work constantly, you don't always have time for relationships.

3 years without anything just sounds very depressing. I hope she had relationships in that time - or at least some good **** buddies and/or one-night-stands.

Like I said, I don't think that Ayu actually did that, it was just a general statement on men who cheat on their wives. It seems to me that Maro is probably already divorced, or at least in the process, so that in no way makes Maro a cheater.

I always wonder if ayu's really not that nice or great outside of public eye.

:P

Ayu the ****. Always loved that part in Last Angel.

looks like some guys have hit and quit it lol

I've never paid attention to that part in last angel. What would be so bad to cause someone to feel shame?

One night stands with *******s done out of loneliness :P

^aww but there's nothing wrong with that for some people. But I guess if she feels that way then I see. Loneliness is a painful thing lol, and I suppose impersonal one night stands don't really help it.

haha Last Angel lyric, i didn't remember bout that at all lol

I'm also sure that ayu's been in several relationships..

exactly!

^I agree. These are adult relationships. Consenting adults can do whatever the hell they want really. We don't have to care about anyone we don't want to. Sorry but that's how the real world works. Ayu doesn't have to care about his wife. She's single. She doesn't have obligations to anyone.


I hope Ayu has actually lived a life instead of worrying about what everyone thinks all the time.

Can anyone give a link to Maro's blog?

http://ameblo.jp/maro-allok/entry-11409361891.html

Maro updated it just now! Saying about the divorce prosees of him and hiw wife O_O

hmmm.... (-_-)

so hes not fully divorced yet..

Let eh drama renew!

So much drama -__- I wonder if Ayu and his wife have met in the past.

more storm =O

He was married after all? I thought he wasn't. D:

Ayu is the "other woman", everyone will hate her now..this is really frowned upon

Obviously she hasn't been worrying because otherwise she wouldn't be in this mess in the first place. Lol.

well it appears that Maro and his wife were separated, so it shouldnt much matter.

is so childish to think so.

ayu fans should know perfectly well that she is not that kind of person, but are influenced by gossip sites easily. u_u

... their marriage did not end because of ayu .-.

This isn't even a mess. This is something small that is blown completely out of proportion by the media and some fans. xD

It won't do her reputation any good. Which means it won't do her career any better. Therefore, I'd consider it a mess of some sort.

i dont know.... did you watch rock n roll circus?? lol :lech

i think the only people that will know for sure are the fans over in japan...
as fo right now all we have is a lot of speculation back and forth.

and honestly who cares what anyone else things... as long has this doesnt effect the way you view ayumi, who cares about everyone else?

look

O.o

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md...8u5o1_1280.jpg

Sometimes you gotta do things that others won't be fond of. If people don't like what Ayu is doing, they are free to idolize another songstress. She's had a 15 years long career now. There is nothing to lose a this point, anymore :D

So Maro's got a ring, woohoo. I got upset over Ayu's rings she flaunted on and off her fingers with Mannie and it turned ut she was wearing the same ones 3 years before. So why the heck would rings count as proof of anything now? Look at them making out in the You and Me PV, her lips are around his upper cheek, his lips are under her chin.

Anyone in a serious relationship can AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMMMM

Maybe they started a relationship after the filming of the PV? Loads of people start dating/marrying after meeting their partner on the set or through work. Just because they didn't have their tongues explicitly down each others throat in a music video (who wants to see that anyway?) doesn't make their future relationship void or any less genuine. Bill and Sookie from True Blood have sex scenes and have sex in real life but that doesn't mean he penetrates her on the set.

Maybe Bill and Sookie are asexual in real life :shakehead

EWWW... how trashie!
Maro has his wedding ring on wit his first wife while in Paris with his new girlfriend, ayumi!

Half of me hopes he is still married.


Just to shake things up.

So what if tabloids were going to publish their relationship?
Some people would have said that it was a rumor and whatnot.

And the plot thickens...

Check out the Twitter thread. New blog post by Maro apparently says that he is...

You really made my day! :roflmao And besides that I agree with the rest of the post.

'Other Woman', I like the sound of that...

Also, there's a reason why japanese (and asian) popstars almost never frenchkiss (or even just kiss) on their videos, unlike western popstars... It's not just a happy coincidence.

We don't know what kind of person she is, actually xD

unless she is an incredibly talented actress and very excellent liar, I think we kinda get who she is.

And I didn't say didn't use tongue, their mouths are not even close to the same zipcode

Hm, wasn't there that one PV buy some Japanese chick where she and the guy were not only frenching, he was grabbing at her boobs and everything? I wonder how that was taken...

Also, Kumi is pretty raunchy, but I can't really remember kissing anyone...

^reminds me of how bollywood stars never kiss either. It's...just not a good thing. It's so annoying to me. I'd go insane. I already go insane watching anime and such, where people are in love...but they just dance around it for 5 million hours and never say anything except look at each other.
snap~ lol

well, the media is going to bash her. And the Japanese will probably bash the hell out of her too.


I can only hope that, the people who really love her, will know that, such a thing doesn't change who she is. She's still the same Ayu, whether you want to believe it or not.

And if she ever needed our support about anything...she might need it now.

We should like, positive spam her twitter.

@happi: that was probably Sowelu...but I don't think people care about her anymore. And yeah...even with kuu. She might be all over a person...but she still...never does more. No wonder why she got creative with dry humping.

The one thing I love about my favorite diva/*****y singers is that you can usually take them at face-value. X-Tina is *****y all the damn time, so at least you know she's not acting.

You know, I think its different with Kumi, because thats who she is. Sure she has a softer side, but the world has come to expect Kumi to do something raunchy...

Ayumi on the other hand... well its clear she is supposed to be the 18 teen year old lost girl that made her famous for the rest of her life...

well, now thats just physically impossible... your mouth is connected to your body and their bodies are really close...
Besides, do they even use zipcodes in Bali?

=)

@emi: The dry humping pleases me, and many of my friends. Oh, She does kiss that black guy in BUT's PV.

Is part of me written about Natsuki?

^ who knows, she writes many about friends circumstances and in a rush at the recording studio that are written just before being recorded.

Song 4 U, uses the same things written in tweets. November describes her a heck of alot better than it does any man. Key -eternal tie version- possibly since she uses Natsukikey as a nickname. And probably the one that has Natsuki in the PV. But who knows, any could be a rushed song or about a friend too. If you're only asking to start an argument, everyone has been warned to stop that, so please don't even bother cause I'll add you to ignore like the others who try to bait arguments.

^ These. The truth is, we really don't know Ayu, even though we'd think we'd like to. She went so far as to refer to herself as "Hamasaki Ayumi" the product and "Ayu" the person when she started. Though they were clearly defined back then, those have blurred over the years and that makes her even harder to figure out. The NTV specials brought a lot of things to light, but they were still TV specials and therefore the majority of that I think was Hamasaki Ayumi the product. Ayu only revealed what she did in those specials because that's what the network was pressuring her for. I doubt even with TA that she opens up as much as she says she can with them, because it's still accessible by the public and the media. Look how many times the news has said, "On Hamasaki's official fanclub..." This scandal was only brought to light because of that tabloid story, and any info we get from her regarding that is only because of pressure from the media. In the end, she only reveals what she wants to or has to. Those pictures we've been getting of Ayu and Maro are far from candid. The real Ayu is the one who's not in front of a camera; the one who's in her hotel room or on the road writing songs and ultimately going to the studio to record them.

That being said, those pictures of her and Nagase that were released? I believe that was the real Ayu - only because she didn't know the cameras were there.

^ lol saigodansu, so the glitter/fated PVs, where Ayu and Shawn Yu kissed, does that mean they were in relationship at the time?

the people mentioning him still being married -
he can very well be married yet he and his wife are separated, giving both of them the opportunity to date and do other single people things if they wish to. i hold nothing against the man for this reason. there are many reasons a married couple may not be able to divorce immediately. in fact, someone very close to me is in this predicament. she and her husband (of 15 some years) are married yet mutually separated and she is now in a serious relationship with someone else.

Maro still being married by law doesn't mean he's trying to do something scandalous. that would just be ridiculous, lol.

I think Ayu should have waited until the whole divorce was over its the right thing to do. It doesn't really matter if him and his wife are still separated they are still married, so it looks bad on Ayu's behalf and I don't think it is right, but I am not going to dislike her for it!

wish somebody would translate Maro's latest blog entry.

so they have finally divorced today? or still on process?

google translate said, that maro and ex wife have agreed to divorce today.

TODAY? what...

Chinese translation of his blog: 這次我的私事，給野村小姐帶來了很大的困擾，十分抱歉。根據會談的結果，我和她已決定於今日離婚，特在此向 大家報告。對於相關人士、特別是濱崎小姐的歌迷們、所帶來的困擾與擔憂，我深表歉意

English translation: It's my personal business this time. I'm very sorry for bringing Nomura-san so much trouble. I want to announce to everyone that after discussing it with her, we have decided to divorce today. With those involved and especially Hamasaki-san's fans, I'm deeply sorry for bringing you guys troubles and worries.

http://ameblo.jp/bluebird1515/entry-11404975148.html

Seems like there's some info... but too bad it's in Japanese...

lol right back at you and if you want an argument, you're barking up the wrong tree. And you just found the secret to being added to my ignore list.

if you keep adding people just for disagreeing with you you wont have many people to talk to...

@ayuuk that article was also posted on here...

they werent even divorced?
Wow... just wow...

I was under the impression that they were at least in the process of divorcing. Had he and his wife even mutually agreed to separate since this decision was made today or was he just outright cheating on her with Ayu? If they had been separated, I think it would have been an important point to make in his message as it could have helped improve their images at least a little more regarding this situation. While I don't have the all the facts regarding this relationship and am trying to avoid jumping to conclusions, based on what he said, it sounds like he was cheating on her with Ayu and since it's become public, they have decided to get a divorce.

I think they were separated, but not divorced 'on paper' which is why people were kind of iffy about it. It's kind of like how people say that since Mannie was married to Ayu in Las Vegas, their marriage 'wasn't valid in Japan' except in this case, the marriage was 'still valid' but they were no longer together.

Keep in mind that Maro used to use RYONRYON's last name in his work with Ayu before going back to his own given name a few years ago, so something definitely happened between them before this ever even started. I think they still work under the same dance company or whatever which is how they met to begin with?

It's funny because the Glitter/Fated story kinda came true, Ayu fell for a colleague and it ended in tragic consequences.

thanks for sharing the translation.

at least, both maro and RyonRyon have agreed to divorce, so no hard feelings to each other i guess?

wow there's paparazzi pics of them together in Japan, it seems?

this one http://ameblo.jp/bluebird1515/image-...287073062.html

i hope somebody could translate the blog entry.

well, its not over yet.

I hope next year Maro can give Ayu a baby before it's too late. They deserve to be happy.

Not necessarily. She could have agreed to it because she has no other choice at this point. Her only options are to get a divorce or stay married to a man who is dating another woman and no longer wants to be with her. Or, as was stated before by others, they may have been separated for a few years now and have decided to make a mutual decision to divorce today. However, I do find the latter to be quite strange because if they were separated for years already and he even changed his last name, I would have thought they would have at least filed for divorce prior to today. I've never been in this predicament so I'm unsure of how people typically handle situations like this so I'm not really going to comment on that aspect of this situation any further without more information.

Sometimes it's a ***** to actually file for divorce...at least here in the US. I don't know how Japan works...but when you take into account assets and money and such...sometimes it's difficult.

I remember when my aunt and her husband separated...the expense was too great for them to actually file, with lawyers and everything. So they waited like 9 months until they were in a better position to do so...and then it took a while getting everything split, you know? And then finally their divorce was granted.

It's not a cut and dry thing a lot of the time...

honestly...if this hadn't gotten out, they probably would have continued to be married on paper :/

this. I don't even have to read the posts and I know!

Nooooooooooo not next year...then she'll have to take a short hiatus from music! ...oh who are we kidding, she will give birth in the studio LOL

^ ayu is as much a workaholic as Kumi... I bet even one of ayumi's high pitch yells will even be from the birth... lol...

^LOL ikr. sigh what a time to be an ayu fan

i think so!
So much going on! I love it!

Thanks for the explanation. I figured it wasn't as cut and dry since some divorces take years to be finalized. That's why I decided not to comment any further on that aspect since I know nothing about that. However, it does concern me that Maro and his wife could have possibly still been married on paper had they not have announced their relationship. It was said that their relationship was serious in the announcements so why is it that he and his wife hadn't discussed this divorce prior to today when they knew the news about their relationship was coming out ahead of time? Overall, this situation seems to have been handled very messily from the outside looking in, both in his part since he's the married one and hers because her career is on the line. It also makes me wonder about how much care he's taking in their relationship by allowing things to unfold like this. I wish the best for both of them but this is not the way I would have liked to have liked to see things happen for Ayu, especially after getting a divorce earlier this year. It's one thing for fans to dislike her being in a relationship with anyone, but it's another thing for her character to be questioned and her reputation that's she built for years to possibly be at stake career wise.

Well it took my parents 2-3 years just for their divorce to be final. Neither of them started dating until 2 years after their divorce though. It's really hard when your parents go through a divorce. I was around 11-12 when they went through it, and my sister was around 13-14, so I hope Maro's son gets through it okay I'm not to sure how old he is though. Lol I hope it doesn't sound like I'm telling my whole business, but I just want to put out there that Maro's son might be hurting the most... Also they could of held up until now to get the divorce, because they don't want to put their son through it?