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Cahz- 30th December 2014 11:33 PM

Meanwhile digitally Ayu is enjoying success with this single. #2 on Recochoku Daily Albums

http://recochoku.jp/ranking/album/da...ate=4305070018

Beauty4123 31st December 2014 03:18 AM

For the single to have charted within the top 10, for it's first week, is a huge accomplishment in itself & totally something for ayu to be very proud of! :D Even more so, since it charted within the top 5. :) This single deserved good sales & a great charting position, so I'm very happy. :) Go ayu! :heart

pimenta 31st December 2014 05:42 AM

Digital sales:

1st week: #1
2nd week: #2

and on the daily rankings for the 3rd week she's still on #2!
And A BEST keeps on #5 week after week LOL

maxikot 31st December 2014 07:11 AM

Can now anybody say that she is not on top? This is digital distribution era, few years ago i stopped buying games in physical copies and started getting only digital versions. She does fantastically digitially.

tsumekaze_ 31st December 2014 10:00 AM

Can the digital sales be counted as well in the origin charts? It's ridiculous that they are not, we don't have a clear impression of what's popular

pimenta 31st December 2014 11:44 AM

It's kinda funny when you compare oricon and recochoku positions, because on recochoku many times those same artists that do amazing on oricon are behind artists with much lower sales there.

For example, Ayu's single actually outsold TVXQ's new full album on recochoku, and it was the 1st week for both.

I really wish there was a ranking that considered both digital and physical sales, only then we would get a true view of the sales situation.

ayumisrael 31st December 2014 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunrise (Post 3111866)
Ayu is the first solo-artist to send 50 singles into the top 10 with this one (entering the chart @ #5?). Technically it's her 52nd top 10 entry but I don't think they include Dream ON or a song is born because they're collaborations.

It doesn't inlcude poker face and YOU since they didn't enter the top 10.

Dream ON is under URATA NAOYA and a song is born isn't counted as an ayu single (like the others).

RealLight 31st December 2014 04:14 PM

^ They didn't include Terminal either. It didn't even manage to get in the top 20, which is even sadder.

My Rainbow 31st December 2014 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealLight (Post 3112147)
^ They didn't include Terminal either. It didn't even manage to get in the top 20, which is even sadder.

Well, it's a recut single with no PV and just one remix, which isn't that great.
It wasn't expected to do much.

This single, on the other hand, is doing pretty well.

I agree they should join physical and digital sells in one chart.

Sunrise 31st December 2014 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 3112125)
It doesn't inlcude poker face and YOU since they didn't enter the top 10.

Dream ON is under URATA NAOYA and a song is born isn't counted as an ayu single (like the others).

I know. I'm saying that technically she has 52 WITH Dream ON and a song is born since they're featuring credits. Most charts include collaborations with an artists total (Billboard, OOC, etc.) so I'm not sure why Oricon doesn't. :dead2

pimenta 1st January 2015 08:17 AM

^ Maybe oricon doesn't count those because Avex doesn't do it either? a song is born and Dream ON were never included in her singles count by Avex, so maybe that's why oricon wouldn't count those as her singles either. idk, just speculating...

ayu-fan 1st January 2015 11:49 AM

Oricon should track iTunes sales as well. Japan really loves iPhone. :D

Corvina 1st January 2015 02:26 PM

Oricon should count digital sales for sure. But they actually missed the prime time for digital sales as those are going down already as well. Compared to 2006 there aren't that much certificafions for digital sales. At least that's what is officially released.
Sales are lower in general.
But if it goes on like that Oricon has to merge physical and digital together.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 1st January 2015 02:51 PM

I'm so sick of waiting for Oricon to count digital sales. I feel like we definitely do not get an accurate representation of her sales. I feel like only hardcore fans by the physical releases...and 60% or more just buy the music digitally.

I saw some people talking shit about the sales figures and I was like...well, where is your fave on the charts? She got number 2 with this single, and I don't even know how much number 3 sold...

LONJJONG 5th January 2015 12:36 PM

Huge drop for the single today. #34.

ayumisrael 5th January 2015 11:25 PM

2nd Week
1st Day: Position: #10
2nd Day: Position: #5
3rd Day: Position: #4
4th Day: Position: #20
5th Day: Position: #29
6th Day: Position: #31
7th Day: Position: #34

brener 6th January 2015 01:28 AM

thanks ^^ It might have sold around 3k

njanjayrp 6th January 2015 04:49 AM

How about recochoku?

Linza-mo 6th January 2015 10:31 AM

On recochoku the single was 1st for its first week end 2nd for its second week ! =)

visionfactory 6th January 2015 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu-fan (Post 3112309)
Oricon should track iTunes sales as well. Japan really loves iPhone. :D

Why? digital market has been decreasing that it's not important anymore

Andrenekoi 6th January 2015 09:28 PM

^By this logic, Oricon shouldn't count any sales anymore, as all the music market is decreasing...

DonkeyKongRemix 6th January 2015 09:49 PM

-fangirlishly dreams that "Walk" could be used as the theme song to my anime I want to write-

The lyrics and everything would suit my story I've been writing so well.... XD

visionfactory 6th January 2015 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3113118)
^By this logic, Oricon shouldn't count any sales anymore, as all the music market is decreasing...

No, because in Japan digital music accounts only for less than 17% of total sales, as opposed to US where it accounts for more than 64% of total sales

brener 6th January 2015 11:40 PM

There is someone bugging this page http://www.generasia.com/wiki/Zutto....hart_Positions

If any of you guys know who it is, please, tell them to stop. I left a message on the article so maybe that person will stop.

KarenPang 7th January 2015 03:54 AM

2nd week sales/ranking for Zutto.../Last minute/Walk - #11 ; 4,200

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/js/w/2015-01-12/p/2/

brener 7th January 2015 04:27 AM

not a huge drop! I liked it =) even better than what I thought! But I do hope for a steady 3rd week so it can outsell Feel the love, although that will be difficult because January is a a really poor month for sales :~

ayumisrael 7th January 2015 10:41 AM

2nd Week
Position: #11, Official Sales: 4,200, Official Total Sales: 32,646

A BEST is #1 daily on recocohku lol. This album is on fire!

The single is #7 on recochoku today.

On its 3rd week on recochoku the single is #8 and... A BEST is #1 weekly. XD

Aderianu 7th January 2015 10:49 AM

5k until FTL/MGR ?

ayumisrael 7th January 2015 10:54 AM

Yes... Feel the love/Merry-go-round sold 37,366 in total.
Drops nowadays and sales in general are even worse.
If it can sell 35,000 it's pretty cool.

BlackSilence 7th January 2015 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimenta (Post 3111870)
^^ even with lower sales this woman keeps achieving new records LOL

I thought exactly the same thing lol When will your faves?? xD

//ABEST 7th January 2015 03:02 PM

still better than kumi's sales :eviltongu

pimenta 8th January 2015 05:28 PM

The single is #3 on Recochoku's monthly album ranking, and A BEST is #2!

The #1 is JUJU's new full album. Ayu's is a single (singles are counted on the album ranking as well), so I would say it did amazingly well, specially since it charted for less weeks than the first two. And A BEST just keeps slaying :D

J/TOP2326 8th January 2015 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimenta (Post 3113321)
The single is #3 on Recochoku's monthly album ranking, and A BEST is #2!

The #1 is JUJU's new full album. Ayu's is a single (singles are counted on the album ranking as well), so I would say it did amazingly well, specially since it charted for less weeks than the first two. And A BEST just keeps slaying :D

ayu is just :love
any numbers how many time the single has been downloaded since then?

KarenPang 9th January 2015 10:28 AM

Zutto... / Last minute / Walk went back up to #15 yesterday

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/js/d/2015-01-08/p/2/

ayumisrael 9th January 2015 12:36 PM

That's awesome! so it looks like this

3rd Week
Out of the top 30
4th Day: Position: #15

brener 9th January 2015 03:00 PM

^ it was #45 on the 3rd Day and out of top 50 on the 2nd Day

Zutto is experiencing a better 3rd Week than Feel the love did

Matt_rq 9th January 2015 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 3113395)
Zutto... / Last minute / Walk went back up to #15 yesterday

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/js/d/2015-01-08/p/2/

Does anybody know why this did happen? :love

ayumisrael 9th January 2015 11:57 PM

I wonder if it's just due to 30 releases just dropped in their sales to a few copies under ayu's single lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brener (Post 3113413)
^ it was #45 on the 3rd Day and out of top 50 on the 2nd Day

Zutto is experiencing a better 3rd Week than Feel the love did

Thank you! If you have more stats it will be appreciated. I sometimes can't find them when it's under the 30s.

TeamAyu2004 10th January 2015 01:36 AM

wow,first week was nice and 2nd week not so bad!

brener 10th January 2015 11:54 PM

3rd Week

4th Day: #35

brener 11th January 2015 08:23 PM

3rd Week

5th Day: #43

//ABEST 11th January 2015 08:49 PM

do they show sales on tuesday even if it's out of top30?

visionfactory 11th January 2015 09:15 PM

^yes, up to top 100

In wednesday or thursday we get top 300

brener 11th January 2015 09:23 PM

I hope sales this week will be above 1,000 copies #fingerscrossed

brener 12th January 2015 11:33 AM

3rd Week

6th Day: #47

brener 13th January 2015 12:29 PM

3rd Week

7th Day: #50

tsumekaze_ 13th January 2015 12:55 PM

How much did this sell on its third week?^^

brener 13th January 2015 12:58 PM

No numbers yet, I'll announce as soon as I get them :)

tsumekaze_ 13th January 2015 01:04 PM

^ thank you! Hope it'll come close to FTL-MGR. That would be a good thing, the sales of her single have been decreasing release by release, but this one actually did pretty good, selling almost like the previous one.

chocopockymaster 13th January 2015 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsumekaze_ (Post 3113902)
^ thank you! Hope it'll come close to FTL-MGR. That would be a good thing, the sales of her single have been decreasing release by release, but this one actually did pretty good, selling almost like the previous one.

I think it's funny how almost everyone forgets the Terminal single exists, lmao :P (I like to pretend it doesn't exist either, lmao)

LONJJONG 13th January 2015 02:28 PM

3rd Week at #40, with 1,262 copies sold. Total 33,908 copies sold.

tsumekaze_ 13th January 2015 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chocopockymaster (Post 3113913)
I think it's funny how almost everyone forgets the Terminal single exists, lmao :P (I like to pretend it doesn't exist either, lmao)

It's not like I forgot it but... it's just that it was a strange release, its sales do not reflect the current state of popularity of ayu imho. So I just leave it out XD Never got why tho, maybe it's partly because of it being a recut single and partly because it's aimed at hardcore fans? dunno rly XD

chocopockymaster 13th January 2015 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsumekaze_ (Post 3113938)
It's not like I forgot it but... it's just that it was a strange release, its sales do not reflect the current state of popularity of ayu imho. So I just leave it out XD Never got why tho, maybe it's partly because of it being a recut single and partly because it's aimed at hardcore fans? dunno rly XD

I dunno either. I wish they had never released it tbh.

brener 13th January 2015 05:45 PM

So happy about the numbers =)

Yoake 13th January 2015 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chocopockymaster (Post 3113913)
I think it's funny how almost everyone forgets the Terminal single exists, lmao :P (I like to pretend it doesn't exist either, lmao)

It's because Terminal was just a big joke and not a single. :trolleyes

brener 13th January 2015 09:09 PM

Guys it's pretty normal that a recut single won't sell as good as an original one ^^ By the way Terminal didn't have any promotion and it's far from what her Japanese audience is used to listen, it's not fair to use its numbers for comparison

adantatu2 13th January 2015 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LONJJONG (Post 3113919)
3rd Week at #40, with 1,262 copies sold. Total 33,908 copies sold.



Nice sales

visionfactory 13th January 2015 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chocopockymaster (Post 3113913)
I think it's funny how almost everyone forgets the Terminal single exists, lmao :P (I like to pretend it doesn't exist either, lmao)

I know right :P everyone forgets Zutto outsold 9 times Terminal!!

Aderianu 14th January 2015 06:37 AM

I hope Zutto will outsell Feel the love
seems it's not gonna happen, but Zutto is pretty close

tsumekaze_ 14th January 2015 09:31 AM

I'd just like her to make a big comeback. I'm so done of reading comments on the net such as "ayumi is fallen" "no longer queen" etc. ugh. I love the direction she's taken and I just want her to be recognised more.

brener 14th January 2015 12:14 PM

4th Week

1st Day: #49

by the way here are the numbers of its 3rd Week

3rd Week

1st Day: Position: #33
2nd Day: Position: #45
3rd Day: Position: #15
4th Day: Position: #35
5th Day: Position: #43
6th Day: Position: #37
7th Day: Position: #50

3rd Week
Position: #40, Official Sales: 1,262, Official Total Sales: 33,908

adrtwb 14th January 2015 01:38 PM

oh wait, is there no taiwan version this year??

KarenPang 14th January 2015 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adrtwb (Post 3114075)
oh wait, is there no taiwan version this year??

Sadly , avex Taiwan has chosen not to make the single this time round ._.

http://www.avex.com.tw/Artist/artist...o=AVCD%2D83126

This time round , avex Taiwan released Zutto / Last minute / Walk digitally & not in physical CD mode . Likewise they didn't make for Terminal either

adrtwb 14th January 2015 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 3114077)
Sadly , avex Taiwan has chosen not to make the single this time round ._.

http://www.avex.com.tw/Artist/artist...o=AVCD%2D83126

This time round , avex Taiwan released Zutto / Last minute / Walk digitally & not in physical CD mode . Likewise they didn't make for Terminal either

omg i'm waiting for official chinese translation lyrics....

ALfromHELLSING 14th January 2015 02:37 PM

Sales are actually pretty good. I wasn't sure if she's gonna hit 20k mark, but she sold over 30k. Great job Ayu!

RealLight 14th January 2015 03:40 PM

Guys, a little off topic here, but would any member from the US, a native English speaker, send me a PM, please? It's urgent. (nothing dramatic or life-threatening)

EDIT: Problem solved. :D

ayumisrael 14th January 2015 08:33 PM

Thank you brener for all of the info!

visionfactory 15th January 2015 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 3114077)
Sadly , avex Taiwan has chosen not to make the single this time round ._.

http://www.avex.com.tw/Artist/artist...o=AVCD%2D83126

This time round , avex Taiwan released Zutto / Last minute / Walk digitally & not in physical CD mode . Likewise they didn't make for Terminal either

OMG :shakehead I wonder if she has a chance to rank in TW charts then

brener 15th January 2015 05:27 PM

4th Week

2nd Day:
#46

ayumisrael 15th January 2015 11:00 PM

Updated thanks!
I should wait for your updates first brener!

pimenta 16th January 2015 03:15 AM

If it manages to reach 35k I'll be more than happy :)

brener 16th January 2015 12:07 PM

4th Week

3rd Day:
#41

brener 17th January 2015 12:56 PM

4th Week

4th Day:
#48

brener 20th January 2015 02:39 PM

4th Weeek

Position: #64
Sales: 741
Total Sales: 34,694

I'm kinda surprised, I was expecting at least a top 50 position =\ It must have sold nothing these days when it was out of top 50...

Anyways, today it rised to #44

@ayumisrael I updated generasia and I think the positions are correct now

ayumisrael 20th January 2015 08:40 PM

Thank you brener!! =)

If it can chart another week it can get 35,000.

brener 20th January 2015 09:19 PM

5th Week

1st Day

Position: #44

visionfactory 21st January 2015 01:09 AM

Just 1,378 copies away from FTL single ^_^

brener 21st January 2015 04:04 AM

^ isnt it 2,717?

brener 28th January 2015 12:54 PM

5th Weeek

Position: #113
Sales: 357
Total Sales: 35,006

ayumisrael 28th January 2015 01:04 PM

Thank you dear Brener!
I'm glad that ayu's single sales barely drop. Just 2,000 less in a year's difference.

Aderianu 28th January 2015 01:12 PM

yeah! 35k!!

tsumekaze_ 28th January 2015 01:56 PM

yes for the 35k mark! This single did very very well!

LONJJONG 28th January 2015 01:59 PM

I'm glad, I thought it was out of top 200!

pimenta 29th January 2015 01:34 PM

YES, 35k! :D

Ayumi Romania 29th January 2015 04:50 PM

So happy!

Magnetics 29th January 2015 07:00 PM

Omigosh, I'm so excited!! Congrats~! :inlove

brener 30th January 2015 01:27 PM

Hopefully LOVE CLASSICS sales will help Zutto to keep on top 200 for another week..

Pieces_of_SEVEN 1st February 2015 05:50 PM

OK! Can't believe I'm excited about 35k, but I am! LOL I guess I prefer to be glass-half-full.

brener 4th February 2015 11:31 AM

6th Week
Position: #153
Sales: 337
Total Sales: 35,343


LOVE CLASSICS helped it to maintain almost the same number as last week =)

ayumisrael 4th February 2015 03:51 PM

Updated, thank you!

chronos 6th February 2015 08:25 PM

Not bad! I'm interested in how her new album will do. This single was a good start IMO!

truehappiness 7th February 2015 07:41 AM

The single is so great~ deserves every last copy sold!

brener 11th February 2015 08:21 PM

7th Week
Position: #191
Sales: 207
Total Sales: 35,550

This single is saying goodbye to Oricon leaving behind such an amazing path.

adantatu2 11th February 2015 09:45 PM

I think this is its last week, good job, the drop between Ftl and this single is really small

ayumisrael 11th February 2015 09:52 PM

Yep, 1,816 drop between single sales in a difference of a year.

melissalove 12th February 2015 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 3117585)
Yep, 1,816 drop between single sales in a difference of a year.

I guess when you put it that way, i'm not that worried anymore. Good thing is ayu's latest single is gold and that's all I care about right now :luv2

Aderianu 12th February 2015 06:14 AM

isn't it smallest difference between two singles?

visionfactory 12th February 2015 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 3117611)
isn't it smallest difference between two singles?

Last single sold 4,018

Aderianu 12th February 2015 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by visionfactory (Post 3117614)
Last single sold 4,018

better to forget about Terminal =)

spanishfan 12th February 2015 11:17 AM

So it's the highest increase between two consecutive singles, almost 900% lol


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