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mellody 26th March 2015 06:39 AM

Jesus, this is great.

Like someone said before, where are the last 2 seconds?
I think we will get more, because it's not a full PV. Who knows it will end like Feel the love.

Surreal17 26th March 2015 07:26 AM

Like someone already said, it's nice to see that she kept an overall cohesive theme for these pvs (simple but somehow sophisticated). I like all pvs for A ONE with the exception of WARNING. The switching lights are an amazing addition. I won t lie, I thought that the video will have some sort of build up but I like it in its simple version too.

lastminute 26th March 2015 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mellody (Post 3125672)
Jesus, this is great.

Like someone said before, where are the last 2 seconds?
I think we will get more, because it's not a full PV. Who knows it will end like Feel the love.

I wouldn't get my hopes up. They probably didn't upload the full video just for the sake of not uploading the full video, it is avex we're talking about after all lol, and since the full song has been released already they just removed a few second from the end of the video and called it a day.

!Lawi! 26th March 2015 07:40 AM

She hasn't looked that beautiful for years, wow! I love how creative the whole thing is, I just wish there could be a bit more of that black dress Ayu. Apart from that I think I like it!

tenshi no hane 26th March 2015 07:53 AM

Love it. I can never take her flailing seriously, but she looks gorgeous and I like the use-a-swinging-lamp-as-the-only-lighting concept.

I'm really happy with the quality of A ONE's PVs <3

edit:
Apparently, the PV was shot in one take! And the PV is simple because she wanted to bring across the lyrics in a direct/raw way, without gimmicks etc. (source)

terra 26th March 2015 08:47 AM

^I suspect there's a reasoning for this just like Daybreak. It's a great one shoot imo, and it delivers the emotion for me.

SpiceSquad! 26th March 2015 08:52 AM

Less is more..

love it!

Ayumi Romania 26th March 2015 09:04 AM

Instead of watching this I should watch how grass grows. For me this the worst PV from A ONE. So WARNING is better than this.

njanjayrp 26th March 2015 09:12 AM

Well it could've been great, but it ended up being OK. Still miles better from all the Colours shit.

Andrenekoi 26th March 2015 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pimenta (Post 3125636)
YES! Good to know I'm not the only one that has a problem with the light.

The PV is nice, I actually like the idea quite a lot, but that light... I get the idea, but I swear that light coming and going the exact same way almost non-stop started driving me crazy after some time. And I don't mean in an annoying kind of way, it's not that I find it annoying, but it somehow seriously bothers me (in Portuguese I would say "me deixa agoniada", but the literal translation in English just doesn't have quite the same meaning and I can't think of a better way of putting it). I was actually pleased on the few moments the lights started blinking quickly because it at least made that synchronized coming and going stop for a while.

I feel I won't be able to watch this PV much because of the way the light makes me feel. It's odd, but it really bothers me.

I get what you meant, and to be honest I believe that was the intention...

pepper 26th March 2015 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 3125693)
Well it could've been great, but it ended up being OK. Still miles better from all the Colours shit.

+1 :)

truehappiness 26th March 2015 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by lastminute (Post 3125681)
I wouldn't get my hopes up. They probably didn't upload the full video just for the sake of not uploading the full video, it is avex we're talking about after all lol, and since the full song has been released already they just removed a few second from the end of the video and called it a day.

They uploaded 99.1% of the PV basically though... There are probably like 4-5 seconds that aren't in the YouTube version like WARNING's intro or The GIFT's intro.

asagarichan 26th March 2015 09:44 AM

I like it PV so much!

Irish_Ayu_Fan 26th March 2015 09:47 AM

Glad she dropped all the tackiness for this, I'll always prefer a simple PV to an overdramatised one, would've thought most people here would be the same...

jbrat2219 26th March 2015 10:17 AM

I didn't expect this PV to be so polarizing.

I thought this is what most of AHS wanted? Just ayu, no dancers, staff, gimmicks, bad sets, flashy show? Just ayu singing a great song with the ever so long awaited exceptional quality of her older works, laying out all her emotions in the process. No? Well, color me surprised :P

relmy 26th March 2015 10:20 AM

I'm so so happy. This is her best PV in years, I really love it. This is the kind of Ayu I love, when all she needs is herself to make her point, with a little bit of drama - because it is a PV.

Honey_Jae 26th March 2015 10:39 AM

I really like this song and her idea with the light is awesome but somehow I was waiting for...more? Ayu is pretty in this dress, I love it on her, but when she is dancing it sometimes looks disturbing. :(

Warning is much better than this...

Hope that the other PVs will be better.

Gustavopc 26th March 2015 10:52 AM

I feel sorry for those who dislike it, it's so simple yet SO powerful. I absolutely LOVE it, this may be my favorite PV from hers in years. I was expecting something about the scenario would happen by the second verses, but I'm so happy it didn't, cause it wasn't necessary. It was just ayu, and you get her feelings so easily with the PV. Love, love, love.

truehappiness 26th March 2015 10:58 AM

Does this PV confirm that Last minute is a song to herself?

Andrenekoi 26th March 2015 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 3125703)
I didn't expect this PV to be so polarizing.

I thought this is what most of AHS wanted? Just ayu, no dancers, staff, gimmicks, bad sets, flashy show? Just ayu singing a great song with the ever so long awaited exceptional quality of her older works, laying out all her emotions in the process. No? Well, color me surprised :P

Considering she felt like writing WARNING, even she won't be surprised...

brener 26th March 2015 11:51 AM

Jesus what an awful video. And by the way those dramatic performances only work live, it was embarrassing... Too bad I love this song and its got one of her videos I liked less

xLuna&1LOVE 26th March 2015 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 3125703)
I didn't expect this PV to be so polarizing.

I thought this is what most of AHS wanted? Just ayu, no dancers, staff, gimmicks, bad sets, flashy show? Just ayu singing a great song with the ever so long awaited exceptional quality of her older works, laying out all her emotions in the process. No? Well, color me surprised :P

The reactions to this PV are so 50/50. Some people do not like it, but a lot actually do like it.
Please pay also notice to the positive feelings towards the video.

ayu-suits 26th March 2015 01:57 PM

Also, it looks like a cartier promotion. she's wearing the bracelet. red gown.

jyujiw 26th March 2015 02:10 PM

This PV is so on repeat to me that it hurts hahaha

SKYia 26th March 2015 02:13 PM

+ pretty Ayu
+ good idea
- wasted potential

I kind of wished once the lights were on Ayu she could change sometimes into that black Ayu, or I wish they used the shots from the preview where black Ayu seemed angry and ultimately I thought any second black Ayu will hug red Ayu and it will be little like Rainbow PV, a pity :)

inspire_rmx 26th March 2015 02:20 PM

I love it!! and holy shit she looks totally stunning in the red dress!! the lighting is quite annoying thou :P

Chibi-Chan 26th March 2015 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3125597)
"Poorly executed"

No, really, this go watch the Katy Perry videos or something like that.

This.


I absolutely love the PV. It's perfect. One of her best in my opinion.

truehappiness 26th March 2015 02:33 PM

I think the light adds some drama that wouldn't be there if it was a straight up Ayu-just-standing-there video.

Tom Punks 26th March 2015 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by brener (Post 3125730)
Jesus what an awful video. And by the way those dramatic performances only work live, it was embarrassing... Too bad I love this song and its got one of her videos I liked less

They work better here, with the swinging light obscuring it, than they do live. Live, they're just embarrassing.

Gustavopc 26th March 2015 03:20 PM

I like the lightning not only cause of the darkness, but it reminds me of a pendulum, and it feels like a "time is running out" idea. Also, I don't think black Ayu should appear at all singing, maybe just for the final two seconds only, if what I get from the PV is right...

pimenta 26th March 2015 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3125694)
I get what you meant, and to be honest I believe that was the intention...

Yeah, probably, but it makes it really hard to watch for me >_<

Andrenekoi 26th March 2015 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SKYia (Post 3125766)
+ pretty Ayu
+ good idea
- wasted potential

I kind of wished once the lights were on Ayu she could change sometimes into that black Ayu, or I wish they used the shots from the preview where black Ayu seemed angry and ultimately I thought any second black Ayu will hug red Ayu and it will be little like Rainbow PV, a pity :)

Why so you want something like Rainbow if we already have Rainbow?

Gustavopc 26th March 2015 04:45 PM

^ A bit of nostalgia and past overestimation are my guesses :P It's curious how people (in general here, sometimes I get myself doing so also) tend to wish for something like something did back in the past, and when they get it, it's like "why did they destroy it? this idea was so good back then but now urgh". I guess this happens cause, well, new stuff doesnt have any memories or feelings well attached to it (yet) so it doesnt have that much of a meaning as old stuff usually do.

Matt_rq 26th March 2015 04:47 PM

Perfect Pv, full of emotion, goes with the song, the pendulum light effect is perfect with the mood of the song. Ayu is pure beauty. I love it.

lastminute 26th March 2015 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 3125699)
They uploaded 99.1% of the PV basically though... There are probably like 4-5 seconds that aren't in the YouTube version like WARNING's intro or The GIFT's intro.

Exactly, there's probably no reason why they removed the last few seconds other than to not -technically- upload the full video to YouTube.

Kazeyomi 26th March 2015 05:33 PM

I wasn't sure if buying the CD+DVD version or not, but this PV worth it for me.

It's so simple, yet so amazing.
The song is "noisy" itself, so a more complex PV full of hidden meanings, could be distracting since she's expressing her emotions through the song.

Really really love it. And she looks so gorgeous omg.

Delirium-Zer0 26th March 2015 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 3125703)
I didn't expect this PV to be so polarizing.

I thought this is what most of AHS wanted? Just ayu, no dancers, staff, gimmicks, bad sets, flashy show? Just ayu singing a great song with the ever so long awaited exceptional quality of her older works, laying out all her emotions in the process. No? Well, color me surprised :P

I expected it to be pretty polarizing, if I'm being totally honest.

Ayu's always had enough genre-variety in her videos and songs that depending on what you personally enjoy, you probably like a big chunk of her discography but aren't that nuts about one or two of the genres she does... meanwhile, those same one or two genres are probably many other people's FAVORITE things Ayu has done.

I came into Ayu fandom when the Despair Trilogy came out in 2000, so to me ayu is a raw honest pop/rock singer who just happens to be slickly produced and fashionable. To people who were introduced to Ayu in later years, thanks to summer songs like "BLUE BIRD," she's a slickly produced, fashionable pop singer who just happens to be raw and honest at times. Then of course there are people who think of Ayu as singer of love ballads AND people who hate her love ballads. There are people who got into Ayu for her remixes AND people who hate remixes.

Ayu isn't any one thing to everyone, but she's a ton of things to a ton of different people. For better or for worse, we all love her for totally different reasons - so we're ALWAYS gonna sound hypocritical if you take us as a big mass.

Those of us who wanted something more stripped-down, personal, dark, emotive, and simple are FREAKING LOVING THIS. Those who prefer when Ayu has more spectacle and is more fun and more colorful are understandably not interested.

stepYOU1234 26th March 2015 07:29 PM

I know there could have been more ideas and things happening in there, but I really liked this PV and it's the best Ayu PV for me in years (maybe my expectations have gotten low?!) Ayu looks beautiful, lots of emotion and interesting lighting idea. It was subtle but I'd rather that than overkill I think. It's also the first PV in years that I have replayed :D I hope those dresses get used in the tour and as someone else said, this is pretty much the PV I had imaged if Memorial Address had had one. It fits the song. The song is great. I think this is the Ayu I've been hanging around for.

Heavenly 26th March 2015 07:53 PM

It's funny that a few days ago, we discovered a PV where there are a lot of people (WARNING) and today there is a PV with Ayu alone (Last minute).

oaristos 26th March 2015 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Gustavopc (Post 3125813)
^ A bit of nostalgia and past overestimation are my guesses :P It's curious how people (in general here, sometimes I get myself doing so also) tend to wish for something like something did back in the past, and when they get it, it's like "why did they destroy it? this idea was so good back then but now urgh"

It reminds me that not a long time ago people were complaining about she being repetitive for using "a mix" of BRILLANTE, Because of You, and Lady Dynamite for one of her latest videos... :P

melissalove 26th March 2015 10:07 PM

I loved the idea behind the pv but I do feel like more should've happened. The black dress Ayu shouldve appear and re appear everytime the lights when out. Kinda like a rotation between the two ayu's. I don't know I'm not a director :D. Other than that ayu nailed it!!

ava_dreams 26th March 2015 11:09 PM

Love it, she doesn't do excess well recently. After seeing warning I was resolved mehness, but this is so simple and beautiful

Delicious n Bold 26th March 2015 11:13 PM

This whole video fiasco is reminding me of Charmin Ultra, Less Is More jingle.
This video is Less Is More, so it is thus Charmin Ultra. Therefore she's channeling her inner daybreak and toilet paper dress.

adantatu2 26th March 2015 11:26 PM

It's ok, at least the music videos from this era are better than Colours' videos.

truehappiness 26th March 2015 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 3125894)
This whole video fiasco is reminding me of Charmin Ultra, Less Is More jingle.
This video is Less Is More, so it is thus Charmin Ultra. Therefore she's channeling her inner daybreak and toilet paper dress.

She was channeling her inner refrigerator before.

I think now she is channeling her inner lamp.

Refix 26th March 2015 11:53 PM

This is no different from watching her performance in concert. I thought its gonna have some story scene concept, kinda disappointing.

Delicious n Bold 27th March 2015 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 3125901)
She was channeling her inner refrigerator before.

I think now she is channeling her inner lamp.

The secret in the cd case will be ayu's fixation with IKEA and home decorating in general lol

Larisa-chan 27th March 2015 12:06 AM

For some reason I love this PV... it's simple, artistic, but still delivers a subtle message. AND OMG SHE LOOKS GORGEOUS!!! I like this Ayu versus the one she presents to us in the Warning PV.

For people complaining about the PV being boring, lights flashing, etc. Go watch Lorde's Tennis Court music video. Talk about amazing song with wasted potential... ffs. She stares at the camera the ENTIRE song and only opens her mouth to sing "YEAH." There is also a flashing light behind her, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8Ymd-OCucs

mi|kshake 27th March 2015 12:10 AM

I have not seen any of the PVs yet (awaiting my copy of the album) but so far these PVs look like a return to form after Colours. They definitely look very Ayu-ish even if they aren't considered her best.

They look like a good "mix" of PVs too. Can't wait for my copy of A One!

truehappiness 27th March 2015 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Refix (Post 3125902)
This is no different from watching her performance in concert. I thought its gonna have some story scene concept, kinda disappointing.

That is kind of the point.

jbrat2219 27th March 2015 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0 (Post 3125847)
I expected it to be pretty polarizing, if I'm being totally honest.

Ayu's always had enough genre-variety in her videos and songs that depending on what you personally enjoy, you probably like a big chunk of her discography but aren't that nuts about one or two of the genres she does... meanwhile, those same one or two genres are probably many other people's FAVORITE things Ayu has done.

I came into Ayu fandom when the Despair Trilogy came out in 2000, so to me ayu is a raw honest pop/rock singer who just happens to be slickly produced and fashionable. To people who were introduced to Ayu in later years, thanks to summer songs like "BLUE BIRD," she's a slickly produced, fashionable pop singer who just happens to be raw and honest at times. Then of course there are people who think of Ayu as singer of love ballads AND people who hate her love ballads. There are people who got into Ayu for her remixes AND people who hate remixes.

Ayu isn't any one thing to everyone, but she's a ton of things to a ton of different people. For better or for worse, we all love her for totally different reasons - so we're ALWAYS gonna sound hypocritical if you take us as a big mass.

Those of us who wanted something more stripped-down, personal, dark, emotive, and simple are FREAKING LOVING THIS. Those who prefer when Ayu has more spectacle and is more fun and more colorful are understandably not interested.

While I understand "different strokes for different folks" there was definitely a general consensus here that we all love ayu for ayu. I know that people trashing the PV aren't directly attacking ayu herself but it does make me look at some of her fans in a different light. Some people clearly want "ayumi hamasaki the product" and not the artist who connects to people through her actual music and not flashy or dramatic PVs and gimmicks.

I know I sound judgy, but I don't care. I guess I'm in a weird place right now and I find myself really connecting to ayu's music this time around and to see some people throwing around their aggressive contempt over a harmless PV bugs me I guess.

But everyone's entitled to their opinion :)

truehappiness 27th March 2015 12:52 AM

I enjoy a balanced output from Ayu. Too much veering in one direction and it gets a little weird but I think she's perfectly delivering on all levels at the moment. Maybe a bit less rock compared to her ballads or midtempo, but let's be honest, most of the songs she sings end up becoming 'rocky' once they're done live as she likes to say.

For me personally, it doesn't really matter too much if it aligns with what I 'want' from Ayu because what I want is for her to do whatever she wants.

owlflight 27th March 2015 01:13 AM

At first, this PV seems too simple. After watching it again, I find it artistic and beautiful. Sometimes less is more and I rather enjoy the less flashy moments.

J/TOP2326 27th March 2015 01:56 AM

i like the idea behind it. i think this "red and black" ayu is a greeat comperison. the idea is great but it could be deeper in thought. the problem is that i see more blackness than ayu.

A-TeensFan 27th March 2015 03:23 AM

Totally love this PV. Finally Ayu gives me something intriguing again. The part with the swinging light and red & black Ayu sitting face to face give me chills!!! I bet that was not easy to shoot.
Her best PV since Virgin Road.

koumori 27th March 2015 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 3125913)
[...] to see some people throwing around their aggressive contempt over a harmless PV bugs me I guess.

Exactly. I've been of the same mind for a while here... it seems people think it's cool to use strong words to represent their dislike of something, but it just comes across as way too aggressive and strangely hateful. Everyone is indeed entitled to their opinion but... well, how we express those opinions is important. I think people forget that far too often.

After watching the PV again today to show a friend, I really like her movements after the rock part kicks in. She really 'fills' the screen and seems to be having a lot of fun - like on stage, like someone said earlier in the thread. It was nice to see that. :)

TheRainbow 27th March 2015 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Koumori (Post 3125933)

Exactly. I've been of the same mind for a while here... it seems people think it's cool to use strong words to represent their dislike of something, but it just comes across as way too aggressive and strangely hateful. Everyone is indeed entitled to their opinion but... well, how we express those opinions is important. I think people forget that far too often.

Sadly, it's not just an AHS thing, it's everywhere. I don't understand the point of mustering any sort of spiteful words with something as emotionally rewarding as music and art (being critical is fine, of course).

Majutsu 27th March 2015 05:03 AM

Wow I love it! Nevermind that it didn' t have a ton of stuff going on, it was raw and emotional and beautiful! So far, this has been my favorite song on the album and the PV did not disappoint me!

gogirlanime 27th March 2015 05:20 AM

LOVEDLOVEDLOVED! It was raw, emotional, and she performed so well! I agree it does get redundant so it becomes a bit boring but overall it's so much better than the overly trendy and cam-wh*re stuff she's been releasing in recent previous albums *cough*XOXO Lelio Feel the Love Wake Me Up You & Me*cough*

~*Mabushii*~ 27th March 2015 05:24 AM

Strangely enough, I really like this. It's rare that I like PV's that are 'overly simple' but ... there is something about this that I love.

koumori 27th March 2015 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRainbow (Post 3125934)
Sadly, it's not just an AHS thing, it's everywhere. I don't understand the point of mustering any sort of spiteful words with something as emotionally rewarding as music and art (being critical is fine, of course).

Oh yes, that's definitely true! I think it always just surprises me to see it on a Japanese Pop forum more than anything else. But AHS isn't special in this way... hm, but this isn't the place to discuss it I suppose. I agree with the points made in any case.

roanmy 27th March 2015 07:09 AM

I think she looks amazing in this PV, but it's boring, and worse yet, the screen is just black half the video. =(

exodiautumn 27th March 2015 08:20 AM

finally i wacthed this PV last night. hahaha..
i already waiting. i've been curious before.
i'm not dissapointed when watched it, ayu-chan look so pretty in dark and red dress.
love her so much, love this song too, and love this PV
(looks simple more than Warning's PV).
so emotional PV, she look like sad and 'angry'. hahaha..
i cried when see this video. :D

Yoake 27th March 2015 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 3125913)
While I understand "different strokes for different folks" there was definitely a general consensus here that we all love ayu for ayu. I know that people trashing the PV aren't directly attacking ayu herself but it does make me look at some of her fans in a different light. Some people clearly want "ayumi hamasaki the product" and not the artist who connects to people through her actual music and not flashy or dramatic PVs and gimmicks.

I know I sound judgy, but I don't care. I guess I'm in a weird place right now and I find myself really connecting to ayu's music this time around and to see some people throwing around their aggressive contempt over a harmless PV bugs me I guess.

But everyone's entitled to their opinion :)

Believe me, AHS isn't the worst place of Internet regarding that. I stopped to talk on another site because they consider Ayu as a product and not as an artist. I know that in the start of her career, she was probably more a product than an artist but now it is really different. Of course people can dislike something. But bashing painfully what she's making and doing...no. The way of saying something is important as Koumori said it.

UHPlus 27th March 2015 12:14 PM

Wow i like this pv!! coming from someone who dislike 90% of her stuffs since years ago...lol! I can't stand seeing ayumi crying and being overly dramatic in her music videos but i find the last part of the video (which again she's overly dramatically crying) tolerable due to the fade in & out effect... Cool. And that hairstyle really makes her look much younger...

ayu_ready? 27th March 2015 12:34 PM

no. I don't like it

yamadashun 27th March 2015 04:47 PM

not sure if anyone here mention this before but I just realize the black and red dress in Last minute PV are kinda related to the ones in Memorial Address booklet?

Delirium-Zer0 27th March 2015 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 3125913)
While I understand "different strokes for different folks" there was definitely a general consensus here that we all love ayu for ayu. I know that people trashing the PV aren't directly attacking ayu herself but it does make me look at some of her fans in a different light. Some people clearly want "ayumi hamasaki the product" and not the artist who connects to people through her actual music and not flashy or dramatic PVs and gimmicks.

I know I sound judgy, but I don't care. I guess I'm in a weird place right now and I find myself really connecting to ayu's music this time around and to see some people throwing around their aggressive contempt over a harmless PV bugs me I guess.

But everyone's entitled to their opinion :)

You have no idea how much you & I agree on this one, haha. Sadly, Ayu does big flashy gimmicky concerts 99.9% of the time (the few times she doesn't, she changes it so it is big and flashy and gimmicky). Which means that's what a crapton of ayu fans look for in Ayu stuff. Once upon a time all that polish & production value contributed to conveying the meaning of Ayu's music; in recent years it feels more like she's doing it to keep fans with high production expectations happy (or, upon thought, she's either hiding her genuine feelings behind it or distracting the crowd from her feelings - as though being with us in person makes her too uncomfortable to just lay it all out on the table).

To many fans, that mask is the essence of Ayu to them, but to many others, the lyrics & emotion & connection are the essence of Ayu.

kinix 27th March 2015 06:24 PM

The one on Youtube isn't really the full version!
There's few more sec left~

hidekirby 27th March 2015 06:42 PM

This PV is so hypnotizing. I already watched it a coulpe of times.

Something I haven't done with her "recent" PV.

I was on her Youtube page last night and it made me realize that I had seen some of her videos just once (Shake it, NaNaNa... for example. After watching them again , just the 1/2 min previews, it reminded me why haha).

BlackSilence 27th March 2015 06:52 PM

At the end of the video the grey/dark Ayu is gone when the lamp swings onto the spot she was sitting. That's the full version.

The darkness and that light is what makes the video so powerful, the lack of there being anything else. Her rock tracks have always got more simple PVs than not. Only a few of them have had a storyline. All others had very abstract stuff going on. decision, talking2myself, about you and the list goes on. Rock stuff is very expressive and powerful on it's own and having very busy footage would just make it overwhelming. Plus it's such a rough track that i think anything else would clash with it.

People on here always complain about how she doesn't have PVs with concepts and artistry, well, folks, here you have it!
I think it's something quite new for her, since she's always surrounded by at least one other person in her PVs. There's always someone. Not this time though. Which makes it so much more personal and special imo. Not to mention it gives even darker atmosphere than any of her earlier stuff.

This song was breathtaking for me from the start, and the video just gives it so much more. I can say that this is my favourite from all of her pvs that she ever did.

LEOyumi 27th March 2015 10:41 PM

This is my favorite PV from ayu since she released CAROLS. What a masterpiece.

adantatu2 27th March 2015 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kinix (Post 3126073)
The one on Youtube isn't really the full version!
There's few more sec left~

Is there a Full TV rip out ?

BlackSilence 27th March 2015 11:15 PM

^yep, and it's actually 4:28 (or so) long.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v...type=2&theater

it seems it's out on Jpopsuki, so go check, guys.

lastminute 28th March 2015 12:19 AM

wow, I really liked the ending of the video. Nothing over the top, but cool and powerful.

hidekirby 28th March 2015 12:37 AM

Cutting the end of the PV on her youtube channel may be one of the most stupid decision I've ever seen.

jyujiw 28th March 2015 01:36 AM

Adored the ending. Just makes everything more conclusive

Tom Punks 28th March 2015 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by hidekirby (Post 3126169)
Cutting the end of the PV on her youtube channel may be one of the most stupid decision I've ever seen.

It's just... like... what. What is the point of cutting 2 whole seconds.

lastminute 28th March 2015 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jyujiw (Post 3126184)
Adored the ending. Just makes everything more conclusive

my thoughts exactly

orbitalaspect 28th March 2015 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Irish_Ayu_Fan (Post 3125701)
Glad she dropped all the tackiness for this, I'll always prefer a simple PV to an overdramatised one, would've thought most people here would be the same...

Simple is great. One of my favorite PVs was curtain call. NEXT LEVEL was really simple as well. But to me, the whole point of a PV is to tell a visual story or to give me some visual content that accompanies the song. That's the whole reason the music video was invented in the late 70's. I don't watch videos to just stare at someone, like Lorde in the Tennis Court, mouthing to a camera. That's not the point of a music video.

I probably wouldn't feel so nasty about this PV if it didn't come off cheap. I've been just as angered with similar videos from other artists because this is not the point of a music video, but this is a one-up from that because the videos are a selling point for the CD+DVD version. I don't think an extra $10-15 plus tax is a fair price for MP4s of Ayu singing in front of a webcam.

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Originally Posted by Gustavopc (Post 3125713)
I feel sorry for those who dislike it, it's so simple yet SO powerful.

It's not an ugly video. It just comes off lazy to me. This is PV #38 that Ayu has done the same motions and facial expressions, so the only power I see, even after having watched it a half-dozen times, is the cable running to that light...

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 3125774)
I think the light adds some drama that wouldn't be there if it was a straight up Ayu-just-standing-there video.

That's like saying flushing a toilet adds some drama to what would otherwise just be me sitting in a restroom for four minutes. :shakehead

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 3125913)
I know that people trashing the PV aren't directly attacking ayu herself but it does make me look at some of her fans in a different light. Some people clearly want "ayumi hamasaki the product" and not the artist who connects to people through her actual music and not flashy or dramatic PVs and gimmicks. [..] to see some people throwing around their aggressive contempt over a harmless PV bugs me I guess.

But everyone's entitled to their opinion :)

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Originally Posted by Koumori (Post 3125933)


Exactly. I've been of the same mind for a while here... it seems people think it's cool to use strong words to represent their dislike of something, but it just comes across as way too aggressive and strangely hateful. Everyone is indeed entitled to their opinion but... well, how we express those opinions is important. I think people forget that far too often.

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Originally Posted by TheRainbow (Post 3125934)
[...] I don't understand the point of mustering any sort of spiteful words with something as emotionally rewarding as music and art (being critical is fine, of course).

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Originally Posted by Koumori (Post 3125939)

Oh yes, that's definitely true! I think it always just surprises me to see it on a Japanese Pop forum more than anything else. But AHS isn't special in this way... hm, but this isn't the place to discuss it I suppose. I agree with the points made in any case.

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Originally Posted by Yoake (Post 3125960)
Believe me, AHS isn't the worst place of Internet regarding that. I stopped to talk on another site because they consider Ayu as a product and not as an artist. I know that in the start of her career, she was probably more a product than an artist but now it is really different. Of course people can dislike something. But bashing painfully what she's making and doing...no. The way of saying something is important as Koumori said it.

Stop.

You are setting a terrible example for participation on AHS by padding threads with posts that directly and indirectly call out some users for strong opinions. An opinion that this PV is absolute trash is not a threat to another opinion that this is a masterpiece. If I post that I think Ayumi is an asshole for having not planned a better video, it is not an insult to you because you loved the video she made. If you don't like someone's "choice of words", you have plenty of autonomy to skip around that contribution. Do not, however, use that autonomy to discourage people from contributing by labeling opinions you don't like as "aggressive contempt" or derailing threads into banter over what you consider to be appropriate and inappropriate ways to express an opinion or contribute to the topic.

Everyone should be encouraged to throw an opinion in, question others' opinions, debate things, make sarcastic remarks, cry, laugh, and cry while laughing. We don't think with the same vocabulary, cultural values, social behaviors, or personal interests, so my opinion will never be the right choice of words to another person--that, in part, is why it can be my opinion. However, your comments about "aggressive contempt" and people's "choice of words" points fingers at people for opinions you don't agree with, or opinions that weren't expressed with your personal "choice of words". Worse, your banter, takes an impersonal topic and makes it personal.

Stop nitpicking certain contributions for "choice of words" and keep the context of these threads somewhat related to the topic.

truehappiness 28th March 2015 04:26 AM

Honestly, we probably wouldn't have this problem if you didn't keep going and going. As the ice queen says, let it go. We know you hate this PV.

Delicious n Bold 28th March 2015 04:33 AM

The Queen ha impact tbh

Andrenekoi 28th March 2015 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by orbitalaspect (Post 3126206)
Simple is great. One of my favorite PVs was curtain call. NEXT LEVEL was really simple as well. But to me, the whole point of a PV is to tell a visual story or to give me some visual content that accompanies the song. That's the whole reason the music video was invented in the late 70's. I don't watch videos to just stare at someone, like Lorde in the Tennis Court, mouthing to a camera. That's not the point of a music video.

I probably wouldn't feel so nasty about this PV if it didn't come off cheap. I've been just as angered with similar videos from other artists because this is not the point of a music video, but this is a one-up from that because the videos are a selling point for the CD+DVD version. I don't think an extra $10-15 plus tax is a fair price for MP4s of Ayu singing in front of a webcam.



It's not an ugly video. It just comes off lazy to me. This is PV #38 that Ayu has done the same motions and facial expressions, so the only power I see, even after having watched it a half-dozen times, is the cable running to that light...



That's like saying flushing a toilet adds some drama to what would otherwise just be me sitting in a restroom for four minutes. :shakehead











Stop.

You are setting a terrible example for participation on AHS by padding threads with posts that directly and indirectly call out some users for strong opinions. An opinion that this PV is absolute trash is not a threat to another opinion that this is a masterpiece. If I post that I think Ayumi is an asshole for having not planned a better video, it is not an insult to you because you loved the video she made. If you don't like someone's "choice of words", you have plenty of autonomy to skip around that contribution. Do not, however, use that autonomy to discourage people from contributing by labeling opinions you don't like as "aggressive contempt" or derailing threads into banter over what you consider to be appropriate and inappropriate ways to express an opinion or contribute to the topic.

Everyone should be encouraged to throw an opinion in, question others' opinions, debate things, make sarcastic remarks, cry, laugh, and cry while laughing. We don't think with the same vocabulary, cultural values, social behaviors, or personal interests, so my opinion will never be the right choice of words to another person--that, in part, is why it can be my opinion. However, your comments about "aggressive contempt" and people's "choice of words" points fingers at people for opinions you don't agree with, or opinions that weren't expressed with your personal "choice of words". Worse, your banter, takes an impersonal topic and makes it personal.

Stop nitpicking certain contributions for "choice of words" and keep the context of these threads somewhat related to the topic.

"Don't have strong opinion about me having strong opinions!"

Ok...

orbitalaspect 28th March 2015 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 3126215)
Honestly, we probably wouldn't have this problem if you didn't keep going and going. As the ice queen says, let it go. We know you hate this PV.

I posted twice. Once was my opinion, and the second was a follow-up on a post Zeke made that commented on that opinion. In contrast, now ten posts (this included) in this topic are about whether certain opinions should be posted, the character of people posting certain opinions, disagreement over someone's "choice of words", or some discussion related to those three topics.

I'd say the numbers point to someone else, a staff member, and a few other people starting this discussion because they didn't like what I said about a music video. Keep these off-topic rants about which opinions matter to yourselves or in a separate thread, and I will stop defending myself and others to this nonsense every time you decide to bully the value of a person's opinion because you don't like the semantics.

BlackSilence 28th March 2015 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by orbitalaspect (Post 3126206)
Simple is great. One of my favorite PVs was curtain call. NEXT LEVEL was really simple as well. But to me, the whole point of a PV is to tell a visual story or to give me some visual content that accompanies the song. That's the whole reason the music video was invented in the late 70's. I don't watch videos to just stare at someone, like Lorde in the Tennis Court, mouthing to a camera. That's not the point of a music video.

I probably wouldn't feel so nasty about this PV if it didn't come off cheap. I've been just as angered with similar videos from other artists because this is not the point of a music video, but this is a one-up from that because the videos are a selling point for the CD+DVD version. I don't think an extra $10-15 plus tax is a fair price for MP4s of Ayu singing in front of a webcam.



It's not an ugly video. It just comes off lazy to me. This is PV #38 that Ayu has done the same motions and facial expressions, so the only power I see, even after having watched it a half-dozen times, is the cable running to that light...



That's like saying flushing a toilet adds some drama to what would otherwise just be me sitting in a restroom for four minutes. :shakehead











Stop.

You are setting a terrible example for participation on AHS by padding threads with posts that directly and indirectly call out some users for strong opinions. An opinion that this PV is absolute trash is not a threat to another opinion that this is a masterpiece. If I post that I think Ayumi is an asshole for having not planned a better video, it is not an insult to you because you loved the video she made. If you don't like someone's "choice of words", you have plenty of autonomy to skip around that contribution. Do not, however, use that autonomy to discourage people from contributing by labeling opinions you don't like as "aggressive contempt" or derailing threads into banter over what you consider to be appropriate and inappropriate ways to express an opinion or contribute to the topic.

Everyone should be encouraged to throw an opinion in, question others' opinions, debate things, make sarcastic remarks, cry, laugh, and cry while laughing. We don't think with the same vocabulary, cultural values, social behaviors, or personal interests, so my opinion will never be the right choice of words to another person--that, in part, is why it can be my opinion. However, your comments about "aggressive contempt" and people's "choice of words" points fingers at people for opinions you don't agree with, or opinions that weren't expressed with your personal "choice of words". Worse, your banter, takes an impersonal topic and makes it personal.

Stop nitpicking certain contributions for "choice of words" and keep the context of these threads somewhat related to the topic.

you seem to be the only person who took other's opinions way too personally. You're trying to do what i did once with Colours, maybe i din't do it to such extreme but it was close - trying to take someone stronger words for liking and trying to convey them that you don't like it. Um.. i think we all got it, already. Don't worry you're not gonna start liking something just because someone else do, i's gonna be fine :yes As for the value of opinions? well none's opinion has value to me other than my own. I think that's about right. And i'm not sure why you think their opinion is so important about what people would or should not do on the forum in terms of discussions on liking and disliking. *shrugs*

now shall we go back to the video? :)

happiholic★ 28th March 2015 05:30 AM

What the fuck is happening right now lmao. This video is so simple and harmless but the discussion that it's caused is montrous.

Meh, I still enjoy the video. If anything I LOVE HER DRESSES. I WANT.

douggn 28th March 2015 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by happiholic★ (Post 3126231)
What the fuck is happening right now lmao. This video is so simple and harmless but the discussion that it's caused is montrous.

Meh, I still enjoy the video. If anything I LOVE HER DRESSES. I WANT.

It wouldn't be AHS if this didn't happen :P at least its not just about the font this time. Though I find her PVs fine for this album. I would still love a story PV but we get what we get, and we should be used to her PVs being like this by now. I still find these PVs fresh, compared with all her music videos

TheRainbow 28th March 2015 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by orbitalaspect (Post 3126206)
Stop.

You are setting a terrible example for participation on AHS by padding threads with posts that directly and indirectly call out some users for strong opinions. An opinion that this PV is absolute trash is not a threat to another opinion that this is a masterpiece. If I post that I think Ayumi is an asshole for having not planned a better video, it is not an insult to you because you loved the video she made. If you don't like someone's "choice of words", you have plenty of autonomy to skip around that contribution. Do not, however, use that autonomy to discourage people from contributing by labeling opinions you don't like as "aggressive contempt" or derailing threads into banter over what you consider to be appropriate and inappropriate ways to express an opinion or contribute to the topic.

Everyone should be encouraged to throw an opinion in, question others' opinions, debate things, make sarcastic remarks, cry, laugh, and cry while laughing. We don't think with the same vocabulary, cultural values, social behaviors, or personal interests, so my opinion will never be the right choice of words to another person--that, in part, is why it can be my opinion. However, your comments about "aggressive contempt" and people's "choice of words" points fingers at people for opinions you don't agree with, or opinions that weren't expressed with your personal "choice of words". Worse, your banter, takes an impersonal topic and makes it personal.

Stop nitpicking certain contributions for "choice of words" and keep the context of these threads somewhat related to the topic.

Like it or not, opinions on the opinions are just as accepted and are on topic. That's what creates discussion instead of just a list of opinions. If you don't like the discussion, don't engage. I won't stop you from posting your opinions (like you keep trying to do), but I'll react to them if I want to. Trying to shame people because they're reacting to what you say isn't any better than what you're complaining about. Funny how I have to even say this after you JUST posted: "Everyone should be encouraged to throw an opinion in, question others' opinions, debate things, make sarcastic remarks, cry, laugh, and cry while laughing" but are telling us to stop doing that. Um. :no

And frankly, my post was more of a general comment about people here that go over-the-top to express dislike. I get it, it's sassy sometimes, whatever. If it rubs me the wrong way, I'm going to comment, because as you say, I can question other opinions (especially when they seem irrational or excessive, of course!). And as far as I know, I was pretty direct when I quoted you initially anyway, there was just nothing else to respond to after that. :P

BlackSilence 28th March 2015 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by happiholic★ (Post 3126231)
What the fuck is happening right now lmao. This video is so simple and harmless but the discussion that it's caused is montrous.

Meh, I still enjoy the video. If anything I LOVE HER DRESSES. I WANT.

i think that's a success for the director that it brings such extremes. lol

jbrat2219 28th March 2015 10:46 AM

It's crazy how some people will go frantic if anyone expresses their dissatisfaction with how they come across with their words but it's perfectly okay to use whatever language to express their opinion on someone's art. Just like ayu put out her music to be discussed, people's opinions can also be discussed.

zellyx 28th March 2015 10:56 AM

I would like to note that people are wasting a ton of time... on a music artists' fan boards debating the nature of their opinions and criticisms............
Wouldn't be AHS without it, but my god, I've gotta wonder how old some people are. I'm all for expressing opinions and debating but a lot of times it crosses into people getting emotionally worked up about what they think about an ayu pv, I mean, it's just too much.

jbrat2219 28th March 2015 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by happiholic★ (Post 3126231)
What the fuck is happening right now lmao. This video is so simple and harmless but the discussion that it's caused is montrous.

This PV is causing more chaos than Lady Dynamite lol. It's funny how PVs that do too much or too little cause mayhem. :laugh

rikku1994 28th March 2015 12:44 PM

God some of ya'll act like a bunch of hormonial teenagers, like take a vacation, smoke a cigarette or something.

zellyx 28th March 2015 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rikku1994 (Post 3126278)
God some of ya'll act like a bunch of hormonial teenagers, like take a vacation, smoke a cigarette or something.

:yes

yamashita.san 28th March 2015 02:09 PM

PERFECT!

happiholic★ 28th March 2015 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 3126269)
This PV is causing more chaos than Lady Dynamite lol. It's funny how PVs that do too much or too little cause mayhem. :laugh

Which is funny, because I swear that PV was supposed to be more taboo. I don't think Ayu was planning that for this PV. Her !reaction! PV was supposed to be Warning, not this one :P

Delicious n Bold 28th March 2015 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by happiholic★ (Post 3126298)
Which is funny, because I swear that PV was supposed to be more taboo. I don't think Ayu was planning that for this PV. Her !reaction! PV was supposed to be Warning, not this one :P

Ayu is serving us a reverse Warholian experience. Her ArTpOp could mean N E Thing.

love in music 28th March 2015 10:50 PM

Well watching it a few more times (in full) it has grown on me a lot.
The light effect and cheapness just bothered me at first. It could be way worse (I checked out that Lorde video someone posted earlier... yikes).
I liked the ending a lot.

truehappiness 28th March 2015 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 3126299)
Ayu is serving us a reverse Warholian experience. Her ArTpOp could mean N E Thing.

It's actually her A TPOP.

kinix 29th March 2015 01:11 AM

If you find this PV sux, please go and listen to WARNING. It's far better than that imo... if you find the PV nicer than Last minute... pls read the lyrics of WARNING...


(Ayu doesn't give a damn about ur hater speech... lol!)


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