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Tasked 29th September 2004 09:51 PM

didn't she had an alcohol problem before? She said that in ayuready 10 I think

shinji1698 29th September 2004 09:54 PM

Ayu needs to come party with me!

errikkutrancex 29th September 2004 09:59 PM

there is no problem at all in this event !!! it is the normal life of every people and hopefully for her she can still do in a way what she wanna do...but there are those ****** journalists who are not at the good place at the good moment, or somebody sold the pictures to make her dive...but never mind !! Japanese peolpe can understand that she can party like a normal girl...

Unimatrix Prime™ 29th September 2004 10:05 PM

There's an article about it in today's Sanspo

savage 29th September 2004 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by shinji1698
Ayu needs to come party with me!

I know something better... ayu can come party when I hv to spin somewhere, I usually spin some of her tracks when I hv to perform somewhere so now she can listen to her own music and hv a few tequila's with me :D

_CREA_ 29th September 2004 10:19 PM

I just have two points:

One, this is nothing compared to what some artists get away with. I'm just pointing out some of those instances of American artists involved with gangs and drug activities...partying and being a criminal are hugely different things. Ayu's still definitely a good girl. :laugh

Two, and I think this is kind of important, EVERYONE seems to have forgotten that Ayu was DISCOVERED in a club. That's how she met Max Matsuura, that's how she went to that fateful karaoke, etc., etc., we know the story. She was clubbing in her mid-teens, so I see nothing wrong with doing it now to celebrate her birthday and Max Matsuura's Avex "presidency" (so to speak). :yes

ImpactBreaker 29th September 2004 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Unimatrix Prime™
I think the main point out of all of this seems to be the "shock value"... the "omg, ayu's drinking!! nooooo!!1111!!" If Ayu drank all the time, most people here probably wouldn't care and would just think "there she goes again!", but to my knowledge, this is the first time that there've been actual pics of her drinking (at a bar, no less). Sure, she's old enough to be drinking (if anything, I would've been surprised if she hadn't been drinking yet), but once again, it's just something you don't see everyday in the ayu community. None of us can stop her from doing this as I don't think any of us know her personally. Until then, all we can do is watch from afar and hope she'll be ok.

I don't agree with the reference that ayu never showed evidences of drinking, I think she did. I'm actually shocked that people are getting shocked by the fact that ayu drinks. Has nobody ever watched the For my dear... PV? She is sitting in a bar yeah a bar OMG111!! and she has a huge glass of whisky (or whatever is that) awaiting for her to swallow it in one sip. The RAINBOW PV shows ayu in a bar and if i'm not wrong she's sitting in the table with drinks set on the there. C'mon, everybody weren't thinking those were milk or orange juice right? Ayu drinks even in the Heyx3 shows with those 2 crazy guys. I don't really see it as a shock.:shrug

ntdvo 29th September 2004 10:42 PM

I think there's nothing wrong with that at all that Ayu going out and have fun at the bar and so on so forth... but because she is the famous person. Everyone knows her name, of course some people wants to know her personal life, someone admired her, want to be like her. That's why the reporters chasing after her for these news. But anyway, my conclusion is she just human being, but not "normal" (the only thing is different to other people). It can be shocked out to some people who idolized her as God (hahaha...lol), but not me.

Unimatrix Prime™ 29th September 2004 10:44 PM

I meant that in terms of seeing Ayu drink in bars and such, I don't remember hearing about that in any tabloid, since it's usually about something with Nagase and other things to that effect.

CT_Cool 29th September 2004 10:47 PM

Ayu got to hav some fun wants in a while :rolleyes, but her voice is sounding a bit funny in some carols lives :think

ImpactBreaker 29th September 2004 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Unimatrix Prime™
I meant that in terms of seeing Ayu drink in bars and such, I don't remember hearing about that in any tabloid, since it's usually about something with Nagase and other things to that effect.

Why would a tabloid need to show: "look ayu drinks!" ??? That would be like saying: "look ayu parties", "look ayu eat hamburgers". Alcohol is so socially accepted nowadays, you don't see newspaper reporting that celebrities drink because a lot of them do, it's no big deal at all. Alcohol has not the same impact as smoking in the society's point of view, even though in terms of public problems the alcohol causes a lot more disasters involving innocent people than cigarette do. The consequences of it aren't socially accepted though and those are what catch people's attention. What was probably shocking was the fact that ayu got out from that party extremely drunk, which just shows she usually doesn't do that or else it would already have been spotted by other tabloids before. But the fact that she drinks isn't really that much of a surprise imo.

Unimatrix Prime™ 29th September 2004 11:13 PM

As I said previously, Ayu drinking isn't that surprising, as drinking in Japan is perhaps as common as driving a car. Maybe it's a boring week for news in tabloids, but one thing I never understood is that when reading any sort of paper, the focus is more on something wrong instead of something right. While few may want to read "man donates money to charity" on the front page of the paper, it seems like things that go right are often left in the dust.

_CREA_ 29th September 2004 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker
I don't agree with the reference that ayu never showed evidences of drinking, I think she did. I'm actually shocked that people are getting shocked by the fact that ayu drinks. Has nobody ever watched the For my dear... PV? She is sitting in a bar yeah a bar OMG111!! and she has a huge glass of whisky (or whatever is that) awaiting for her to swallow it in one sip. The RAINBOW PV shows ayu in a bar and if i'm not wrong she's sitting in the table with drinks set on the there. C'mon, everybody weren't thinking those were milk or orange juice right? Ayu drinks even in the Heyx3 shows with those 2 crazy guys. I don't really see it as a shock.:shrug

Those, plus that Tu-Ka FunStyle commercial... :rolleyes

kristen 29th September 2004 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker
Ayu going to bars? Heck she must have gone to zillion different bars in her life...

i read somewhere that Ayu was in a bar when she was confronted by Matsuura and asked to join Avex. I can't remember where, and there are no guarantees that its true. But if tis, then Ayu has been to bars.

So whats so different about it this time? When i get older i'm more than likely going to go to bars. It's not like they're a terrible place, and a lot of them (as so i've heard) play really nice music.

But about the gay bar thing... if Ayu is gay (no insinuation whatsoever) i'd still love ayu's music and i'd still support her.

//hikari 29th September 2004 11:32 PM

Have none of you been to a bar?

It sounds like you're all so shocked that she would enter one.

She's probably going to trendy bars that offer all types of drinks rather than just beer.

kristen 29th September 2004 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by //hikari
Have none of you been to a bar?

i cant, i'm only 14 :shrug

kameraguy 29th September 2004 11:59 PM

I can see this type of news being Positive and negative. I agree that there's absolutely nothing wrong with what is reported. I'm actually happy to know she lives her life like any other human being. A lot of times celebrities are so cautious about what the press and tabloids say they try to stay secluded to protect their image since the media can really distort things. It's unfortunate celebrites often times sacrifice their freedoms to become a public figure.

I don't know anything about Ayu's personal life, so this little glimpse is refreshing. She looks like she's having a great time, which i'm sure all her fans enjoy seeing.

The details about her being at a Gay club is only an issue to people who have issues with Gay clubs I guess. Who really cares where she is having fun, so long as it's not illegal!

Personally I also dislike her smoking, but only because I dislike smoking in general. We all know the health risks with smoking. As for why it makes people become thinner or fatter...it's because it increases your bodies metabolism. So if you start smoking, you have the tendancy to get thinner as your body works faster in burning energy. But say if you quit smoking, it's possible to become heavier if your food intake was greater than before smoking. Your metabolism will slow back to "normal" but the caloric intak was increased.

Her drinking and smoking probably won't be shocking to her older fans, but since a lot of her fans are teenagers too, it's true reports of her smoking and drinking could upset the younger crowd. I'm sure parents might take notice too considering she is idolized by so many young teens and kids. It's to be expected.

Only time will tell if this type of news will affect her popularity.

Personally I don't find anything wrong with it. That tabloid might sound controversial, but really, there was nothing outrageous said in that tablod. If anything it seemed whoever wrote that article was trying to make a big deal out of nothing :rolleyes

tetsuo69 30th September 2004 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by //hikari
Have none of you been to a bar?

It sounds like you're all so shocked that she would enter one.

She's probably going to trendy bars that offer all types of drinks rather than just beer.

i'm 18... and i dislike people who smoke or drink... but this wont stop me from liking her ^_^

but i also dont see anything bad about this.. shes old enough to do what she want...

ddr trent 1st October 2004 08:35 AM

I knew it!!!
that explains RAINBOW PV :yes

no_way_to_say 1st October 2004 05:25 PM

Ayu on Hong Kong Newspaper Apple Daily (29th Sep)
 
well...
there was a half page article on Ayu on 29th Sep in this Hong Kong Newspaper. It said that some people from the japanese magazine 'Flash' saw Ayu go drinking with Avex ppl. She went to a total of three pubs. (i think it is that or some restaurant) She was drunk and was holding on to some Avex guy's hand when heading to the next place to drink and in the end, she was so dunk that after she went to the bathroom, she sat at the wrong table and started drinking with the people at that table...There were pics of her in the article holding the Avex guy's hand smoking/laughing in the pub.

unfortunately, i dont have a scanner and cannot post the scans of the article, so if someone has it pls post it so others can see.

My Thoughts:
Maybe Ayu was out to celebrate the release of the new single 'carols'
the newspaper said it as though it was a really bad thing but i dont find it too much of a problem to make a big fuss about...and these magazine ppl should really mind their own business instead of poking their noses into other ppl's lives...

hanabinokisetsu 1st October 2004 05:49 PM

The Singaporean newspapers says that she was drinking in a gay pub...

Btw... It was also reported on S'pore newspapers that she is quitting... A total of 2 articles like that found on local papers and magazines...

no_way_to_say 1st October 2004 05:57 PM

really...
was it a gay pub....(?)
maybe it was mentioned in the paper but i didn't read it carefully (i was scanning through)
but why is she drinking in a gay pub anyway??
do they even let girls in??? (forgive me if this question was stupid)

tetsuo69 1st October 2004 06:31 PM

ayu was out to celebrate her birthday and max becoming president of avex...

Qt Mashi 1st October 2004 07:05 PM

ayumi smokes?
just surprised..

voltron 1st October 2004 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by no_way_to_say
really...
was it a gay pub....(?)
maybe it was mentioned in the paper but i didn't read it carefully (i was scanning through)
but why is she drinking in a gay pub anyway??
do they even let girls in??? (forgive me if this question was stupid)

girls can be gay too...they're just usually called lesbian.

but plenty of straight girls go to gay clubs.

Hok 1st October 2004 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by no_way_to_say
really...
was it a gay pub....(?)
maybe it was mentioned in the paper but i didn't read it carefully (i was scanning through)
but why is she drinking in a gay pub anyway??
do they even let girls in??? (forgive me if this question was stupid)

I hear girls go to gay clubs because they dont have to deal with someone hitting on them, like straight drunk guys who dont know what they are doin.

tetsuo69 1st October 2004 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hok Wai Blue
I hear girls go to gay clubs because they dont have to deal with someone hitting on them, like straight drunk guys who dont know what they are doin.

thats could be the reason ^_^

devilayu 1st October 2004 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hok Wai Blue
I hear girls go to gay clubs because they dont have to deal with someone hitting on them, like straight drunk guys who dont know what they are doin.

That's actually really true, plus gay guys generally dance better (and like to dance more) than straight ones. That and the conversation is good.

Bishoujo Ayumi 1st October 2004 10:09 PM

I think it's funny. It's kind of dumb to make a big deal out if it. So she got drunk..She's only human, ne?

I'm sick of everyone saying she's quitting though. I refuse to believe it until I see it.

Echiko 1st October 2004 10:32 PM

^__^ Ayumi needs to have fun too. :) again, happy b-day and congrats to max! ^.~

Raleigh 1st October 2004 11:01 PM

Nothing wrong with drinking in my opinion... I wonder what's the big deal if it's true. Plus being in gay bars is nothing out of ordinary. I also went there a couple of times and at least guys don't start hitting on you there.

lolo66 2nd October 2004 12:37 AM

Smoke? Gay bar? Drunk? She's a normal person after all, and I love her even more after this. I think the HK nespaper is apple daily or is it?

silentscreamer 2nd October 2004 02:50 AM

see!! it WAS true! [to all those people who thought it was made up]

but yea ... i think it was made into a big deal because they are not as openly accepting of homosexuality or gay bars or what not as much as the 'western' culture ..

that's why they put that as the headline 'ayu spotted at a gay bar' to capture the reader's attention

its really nothing!!

no_way_to_say 2nd October 2004 03:53 AM

yes. it is Apple Daily.

hightea_xx 2nd October 2004 04:23 AM

i have an article from the ming pao newspaper on this! my dad showed me and told me she was at a gay bar getting drunk, and there are pictures of her smoking and being wasted out on the street. oh ayu <333

mei-mei 2nd October 2004 05:31 AM

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh, sooooo typical of hong knog newspapers, they always want to gossip about people. i wouldn't believe it completely since they exaggerate so their papers can sell. and even if ayu does do that, what's so abnormal about it anyway. i can understand ayu doing it as a way of celebrating and releasing stress... i bet she gets soo much stress that we ordinary people just can't imagine.

ruixiong89 2nd October 2004 05:48 AM

Huh? Ayu smokes? Well, let the tabloids say what they want to say. If there are pictures, well, show them then and we'll be the judge for ourselves. I always realise that the media are always gossipy and everything, if you do something good, they say you're putting on a fake front, and if you did something bad, well, they blow the whole damn thing up. Just give a break ...

Anyway, what's wrong with celebrating Ayu's birthday? And well, the point is that it's very easy to misinterpret things that people do. So I mean they got to get MORE info to prove that it's right! Well, cursed tabloids ...

ruixiong89 2nd October 2004 05:54 AM

I don't really care that Ayu visited a gay bar. I mean hello, the whole notion of her visiting a bar is there but I mean it was just a BAR. There really isn't any need to get overworked at it.

But I'm seriously appalled by Ayu smoking. Drinking is fine with me, I mean it's kind of a social thing and I'm ok with that but smoking? Gosh ... I guess she must have had too much or something ...

extepan 2nd October 2004 07:58 AM

sorry but max is the president of avex??????????

extepan 2nd October 2004 08:00 AM

sorry but max is the president of avex??????????

and yes gay bar let girls in :)

AyuRlz 2nd October 2004 12:05 PM

BIG DEAL! i thought it was something that big... i am 16 but i drink.. hehe.. but i don't smoke... i think that the newspaper should relax than just go around poking their nose here and there... their reports just seem irritating

extepan 2nd October 2004 01:12 PM

the newspapers in hong kong has said something far worse than that in the past. so this one would not raise my eyebrows :)

CyberSpaceQueen 2nd October 2004 03:51 PM

hmmm

evolutionricky 3rd October 2004 03:43 AM

I would start freaking out of I saw Ayu in a gay bar here in toronto.

yys113 3rd October 2004 05:28 AM

Someone should post a scan of the article. btw, smoking is retarded and ayu is stupid to smoke. She probably gonna get lung cancer at the age of 40 and regret smoking, who knows? Smokers are people without their brain, they'll definitely be sorry for their habit someday.

ohsixthirty 3rd October 2004 05:32 AM

Why hasn't this thread been sent to the trashcan when the other three posted on this rumor have been?

Echiko 3rd October 2004 07:57 AM

^^;; Well. Telling people that she went to drink and celebrate doesn't have to be a bad thing. Maybe they just want to inform us? :) with no meaning in trying to make ayumi look bad.

mui-gei-tal 3rd October 2004 09:36 PM

lol...i read this article in the ming pao news in canada...
i think it's cool to see the other side of ayu!

Kazuko 4th October 2004 02:50 AM

*cough* i didn't know ayu smoked o.o;; oh well... humm... i'm not too sure about the holding hand with some other dude of avex but maybe he was gay.. *shrugs* iono ._.

Nu-NRG 4th October 2004 03:40 AM

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heres a new article bout it
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恩 師 履 新   前 日 出 碟   明 賀 生 辰
步 姐 三 喜 臨 門 飲 大 !

日 本 偶 像 歌 手 濱 崎 步 , 大 前 日 在 個 人 官 方 網 頁 內 , 回 應 雜 誌 《 Flash 》 偷 拍 到 她 喪 蒲 基 吧 之 事 , 她 表 示 已 遭 男 友 長 瀨 智 也 勸 告 , 又 揚 言 為 了 不 再 令 他 生 氣 , 已 反 省 自 己 , 並 多 加 注 意 。

男 友 責 飲 得 過 份
濱 崎 步 被 周 二 推 出 的 日 本 雜 誌 《 Flash 》 刊 出 她 上 月 與 工 作 人 員 夜 蒲 新 宿 二 町 目 基 吧 的 照 片 , 連 踩 三 場 的 步 姐 , 在 店 內 豪 飲 , 並 飲 得 酩 酊 大 醉 , 要 由 工 作 人 員 攙 扶 行 走 。 步 姐 周 二 晚 在 個 人 網 頁 內 對 fans 說 : 「 我 的 情 人 ( 指 長 瀨 智 也 ) 對 我 說 : 『 請 不 要 再 飲 酒 飲 得 太 過 份 了 ! 』 , 為 了 不 再 讓 他 憤 怒 , 我 會 更 加 注 意 。 」

恩 師 做 社 長 股 價 升
明 日 便 二 十 六 歲 的 步 姐 , 當 晚 蒲 基 吧 原 來 是 提 早 慶 祝 生 日 , 她 更 在 網 頁 內 解 釋 說 : 「 當 晚 我 只 是 同 以 往 一 同 工 作 的 同 事 一 起 而 已 , 沒 有 發 生 任 何 事 情 , 請 大 家 不 要 擔 心 ! 」 但 外 界 指 步 姐 今 次 高 調 為 自 己 辯 護 , 有 博 宣 傳 之 嫌 , 因 為 她 前 日 剛 推 出 了 全 新 細 碟 及 DVD 《 CAROLS 》 。
此 外 , 步 姐 的 恩 師 松 浦 真 在 人 本 周 正 式 擔 任 avex 唱 片 公 司 社 長 , 前 日 唱 片 公 司 的 股 價 即 上 升 至 一 千 五 百 三 十 五 日 圓 ( 約 港 幣 一 百 零 七 元 八 角 六 仙 ) , 比 前 一 天 上 升 五 十 八 日 圓 ( 約 港 幣 四 元 零 八 仙 ) , 最 終 以 一 千 五 百 一 十 二 日 圓 ( 約 港 幣 一 百 零 六 元 兩 角 七 仙 ) 收 市 。
from the article a explanation why ayu was at the gay bar..(summary)

On that night she was actually just having a earlier birthday celebration and also she also explained why she was there in TeamAyu bbs: Ayu [That night as usual I was just going out with the crews, nothing happen and please everyone don't be worried!] But the outside world points finger to ayu that she is highly self protected, publicity stunts? Because she just released her single CAROLS and DVD few days ago...(in other words..getting attention so more sales for both)
and those guys with her..well
Ayu was too drunk to walk and she needs assistance to help her and they're only the crews also. On Tuesday night ayu explained to her fans in TA BBS: [My lover (Nagase) told her not to drink that much again and not to drink way out of control.] She also said that she'll be careful next time, cuz she dont' want to see him get mad.

heres the message ayu left in ta
and the one show her smoking and drinking...kinda

kournikova 4th October 2004 05:10 AM

>.< ...

liechin 4th October 2004 08:49 AM

i dun think that the news is true

extepan 4th October 2004 02:04 PM

it does look like ayu. however i dont see anything wrong about going to a bar and having a smoke. it is a perfectly normal social event.

extepan 4th October 2004 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker
i also find it schizophrenic that a "gay" bar that was stepped by ayu wouldn't want its name displayed on the news if this tabloid were 100% true. nonsense :yes

if i own a gay bar i certainly do not want all that publicity. depending on the nature of the gay bar, there are different levels of 'action' (you know what i mean) going on. if the bar suddenly got plagued by ayu fans, the gay men there wont be too happy.

Nessa 5th October 2004 09:50 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHA, I always knew Ayu was a lush. What I wanna know is, does her face turn red? That's the million dollar question here folks.

Akhet 5th October 2004 09:51 AM

well....as for the smoking part - thats too bad but u know in japan - most people smoke like chimneys anyways, so there is a ton of second hand inhalation for sure.....nevertheless - i feel for ayu - she must be lonely - with few people she can confide in and trust - the life of an icon is not an easy one - she must be suffering.....i will keep her in my thoughts.....

its not to say that drinking and smoking = depression and loneliness, but to me its pretty clear in this case that this is what we are dealing with....

extepan 5th October 2004 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Akhet
i feel for ayu - she must be lonely - with few people she can confide in and trust - the life of an icon is not an easy one - she must be suffering.....i will keep her in my thoughts.....

its not to say that drinking and smoking = depression and loneliness, but to me its pretty clear in this case that this is what we are dealing with....

this is an interesting viewpoint...i never looked at it this way

Qt Mashi 5th October 2004 01:25 PM

gay bars are kool..its fun to go in there even if your not gay, its just a differnt experience~

PinkSock 5th October 2004 07:16 PM


omg... fun stuff
:D

Echiko 6th October 2004 04:54 AM

> <; I'm hoping Ayumi didn't drink because she was sad..deep inside. T_T


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