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AyuHamasaki01 9th May 2007 11:44 AM

I'm pretty it's Ayu singing that part, and I always though it was:

Did you loathe him?
Gotta replace him
Hate him and even so
you don't ever think you can fail

Did loathe him?
Gotta place him
Hate him then even so
you don't ever think you can fail him

Did you loath him?
Gotta replace him
Hate him then even so
you don't ever think you can fail

Asian Wisdom
Gotta place him
hate him then even so
you don't ever think you can fail him

or something like that... not quite sure about the loathe and asian wisdom part...
well that's what I hear

and JackieRos: no offense, but your signature kinda makes me sick (gomen) - sorry, that's my opinion!!
Don't hate me because of it! Hey, if you think it's cool you should keep it, right?

JackieRos 9th May 2007 04:22 PM

I'll keep it on but don't worry about it
I also think is digusting but I like it ^.^

AyuHamasaki01 9th May 2007 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackieRos (Post 1087099)
I'll keep it on but don't worry about it
I also think is digusting but I like it ^.^

:D

I see...

Like I said: If you like you should keep it!

I like your avatar though

(miss)understood 10th May 2007 12:19 AM

Hahahah it makes me sick too

Thats the point, right? :o

I thought the lyrics went like this...

"Danger, lose him, cant replace him, hate him and even so, you dont ever [NEED TO] think you can fight him (of course fight sounds like feet b/c it is wrongly pronounced)/Danger look up, can't replace him, hate him and even so, you don't ever [NEED TO] think you can leave."

Thats how i heard it :o!!!!!!!

AyuHamasaki01 10th May 2007 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (miss)understood (Post 1087419)
Hahahah it makes me sick too

Thats the point, right? :o

I thought the lyrics went like this...

yeah, I kinda... when I looked at it it made my sick... hours later I still felt it :tipsy :tired really... (No offense to JackieRos)

AyumiFanGuy 11th May 2007 06:05 AM

Well, until I had stumbled across this thread, I hadn't realized it even was English...I can't really make out what it says. Like someone else said, I think this'll be another forgiveness. lol

As for those who are saying her English is horrible, didn't you watch the Talk Asia episode where she talks quite a bit in English about Secret? Granted, it wasn't the best English, but it was very clear and grammatically functional, IMO. ^_^

JackieRos 20th May 2007 02:36 PM

ahhaha its ok dont worry about it ^.^

Rainbow141 25th November 2009 02:33 PM

The rap in Ladies Night?
 
Hey, I've come back with another question~ ^.^;

Okay, so in Ladies Night, we all know Ayu does some rapping, right? Well... there's some other rapping going on in the intro that doesn't seem to be included in the lyrics. It can be heard throughout the song, but between 2:25 and 3:08 you hear it the most, and starting at 3:50 you can hear it kinda well in the background.

I'm pretty sure it's in English, and I don't think Ayu's doing it.... but does anyone know what's being said?

Andrenekoi 25th November 2009 03:02 PM

Nobody knows what is being said, but here are lots of topics discussing it^^

U-GO-BOY 25th November 2009 03:29 PM

Some think it is the same as in Sweetbox' version

Quote:

Leave him, lose him, cut, replace him [danger]
Hate him, then erase him
You don't ever [need to] think you can't leave him [need to] ......

AyuHamasaki01 25th November 2009 03:39 PM

Here we go again :rolleyes

- no offense -

Rainbow141 25th November 2009 05:04 PM

^Huh?

Oh....this was asked before. I'm sorry! I didn't know, and the search feature wasn't working... I know it's no excuse, but.... :(

God, I am stupid. Please delete this thread.... :(


EDIT: Oh, and thank you Zelda-Maker for answering me. I'm sorry for being an idiot, but thanks for at least cooperating with me... :)

Picaflor 7/4 25th November 2009 06:27 PM

someone needs to fix the damn search function!

anyways, if you listen to the remix on ayumix silver you can hear it alot clearer. not much more articulate, but still, it's so much easier to hear.



Personally I hear

Quote:

Dj lead/lose them. Can't replace them
[DJ] Hate them, then even so.
You don't ever [need to] --------
no idea what the last part is. also I really dont think it's ayu rapping. It sounds nothing like her, I think it might just be the unedited unvocoded rap part from sweetbox's version or something. even though it's too hard to understand, the english is too perfect with no japanese accent whatsoever.

Delirium-Zer0 25th November 2009 06:56 PM

*facepalm* No one knows what "vocoder" means. This english rap is NOT the vocoder voice on the song. A vocoder voice sounds more like a synthesizer than a person.

Anyway, I think it's ayu doing the rap, but I think she's just mimicking Jade from the original song without really knowing 100% what's even being said, which would explain why her accent is pretty good but you still can't really understand her.

AyUta 25th November 2009 10:28 PM

Interesting....:laugh

ストロボ・EdGE 25th November 2009 11:48 PM

I had always wondered what was said there too. I'd like to make it my ring tone; I'd get weird looks though ( :P ).

Suteisi 25th November 2009 11:58 PM

I thought we already figured out what it was saying in another thread? Lol

What I understand is:

Ditch him, lose him
Can replace him
Hate him than even so
You dont ever need to
Think you can't beat him

Don't know if that's exactly what she's saying~

Rainbow141 26th November 2009 12:09 AM

^ Yes, I'm sorry.... I really need to be more careful, and look into those old threads. :yes But yes, I made a boo-boo. :thud

Thanks for the help anyhow guys... From now on I'll just use Yahoo Answers a bit more or something so I don't make duplicate threads all the time. *sweatdrop*

Anyhow.... what I used to always think it was, was "DJ lose him, can't replace him, but even so, you don't ever have to___" and I never got that last part. ^.^;;

MissElin_ 26th November 2009 06:35 PM

Ooooh your writings sounds more right... I always thought it was.

"Danger, wisdom.
Can replace him.
Hate him and even so,
you dont ever (need to)
think you can fail."

Lol, this makes no sence at all. I think you guys over me are more right. XD

Miduhyo 26th November 2009 08:48 PM

haha I wish there would've just been damn lyrics somewhere in one of the booklets either for Ayumi's or Sweetbox's booklet!!! Cause this has always drove me crazy not knowing what she's saying...

panda♥ 26th November 2009 09:00 PM

I always hear:

Danger, Wisdom
Can't replace him, hating him
Even so, you don't ever (need to)
think you can fail/beat him.

:shrug

visionfactory 26th November 2009 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zelda-Maker (Post 2167171)
Some think it is the same as in Sweetbox' version

This is the most accurate answer you can get ;)

lilmissgrusome 27th November 2009 07:46 PM

they first say "Im sure that girls just wanna have fun"
the 2nd sentence is also something about fun cuz it says "something something something something, really need to have some fun"

hope it helped ^^

ayunation 27th November 2009 10:37 PM

Rainbow141 doesnt mean the male rap from the remix... (you mst red the whole thread) ^^
i think too - it's the same like sweetbox Ladies Night...

Leave him, lose him, cut, replace him [danger]
Hate him, then erase him
You don't ever [need to] think you can't leave him [need to] ......

behwatch 28th November 2009 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4 (Post 2167307)

Picaflor u are right on this!
Dj lose them. Can't replace them
[DJ] Hate them, then even so.
You don't ever [need to] --------

In addition, the ----- part should be "bickka cafaded"

Lol it sounds like this to me haha...

Rainbow141 28th November 2009 03:05 AM

Well then. This thread became pretty popular for something that's been done a million times. :rolleyes

Anyhow... Thanks everyone for your input, it's interesting to see what everyone thinks~ I see Picaflor, you're onto the same "DJ"-usage theory, huh? I've always thought it was DJ something, but.... with this you can't be too sure I guess. :thud But we have our ideas.

Picaflor 7/4 28th November 2009 04:20 AM

^well since ayu is singing the same thing as jade in ladies night, are there lyrics in her album booklet?

and no matter how many times someone says "this is what she's saying" unless you have proof. I'm not going to believe you. :rolleyes

Quote:

Originally Posted by behwatch (Post 2169716)
Picaflor u are right on this!
Dj lose them. Can't replace them
[DJ] Hate them, then even so.
You don't ever [need to] --------

In addition, the ----- part should be "bickka cafaded"

Lol it sounds like this to me haha...

lol yes, that is exactly what I hear. bickka cafaded, but I didn't want to put that cause it's nonsense.

JackieRos 28th November 2009 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazuki (Post 621527)
I'm not really sure but.. I hear:
"Danger, Look up, Come and place him, Hate him, then leave him so, you don't ever need to think you can leave.
Danger, Lose him, Come and place him, Hate him, then leave him so, you don't ever need to think you can leave." repeated several times.

Look up and Lose him: I'm not that sure about those two.
That's what I'm hearing right now. Can anyone confirm? ^^

Hope I helped you tl1029530921! :3

this one sounds the most accurate


i dont believe is ayu cos we have heard ayu sing in english and
this does not sound like it *cough*everywhere nowhere*cough*silent night*cough*

Delirium-Zer0 28th November 2009 05:35 AM

Again, I think she was just mimicking Jade from the original demo. Her accent, therefore, would sound completely different since she's copying how someone else sounded rather than reading words like she was in those other instances.

Rainbow141 28th November 2009 05:40 AM

Thank you to whoever melded my question with another thread. :thud

There has been speculation, as seen in threads here, as to yeah, whether Ayu does sing the English.... I once agreed that I thought it was her... but I really doubt it. Even mimicking, I don't think Ayu could sound like that. Her English accent is very thick, and I should think it could be a bit hard to change it like that. I dunno, just my thought.

Delirium-Zer0 28th November 2009 06:19 PM

In my experience though, someone's accent improves drastically if they're mimicking sound rather than reading the words. Jonathan Coulton, for example, doesn't speak french at all, but his accent is pretty good in the french version of his song "Re: Your Brains," the reason for that being, he had a demo sung in french that he could mimic, not just lyrics to read. Ayu's accent is thick when she's reading lyrics, but in this case, she most likely didn't have anything to read - only sounds to mimic. Because of that, she'd probably sound really different saying things like "even so", but she'd still be hard to understand.

njanjayrp 28th November 2009 06:28 PM

I'm almost certain Ayu was just using Jade's lyrics:

Leave him, lose him, cut, replace him
danger
Hate him, then erase him
You don't ever [need to] think you can't leave him [need to] ......

Leave him, lose him, cut, replace him [danger]
Hate him, then erase him
You don't ever [need to] think you can't leave him [need to] ......

Leave him, lose him, cut, replace him [danger]
Hate him, then erase him
You don't ever [need to] think you can't leave him [need to] ......

Leave him, lose him, cut, replace him [danger]
Hate him, then erase him
You don't ever [need to] think you can't leave him [need to] ......

Leave him, lose him, cut, replace him [danger]
Hate him, then erase him
You don't ever [need to] think you can't leave him [need to] ......

Hate him, then erase him is the only part that doesn't sound the same, as Deli said it's more like "even so" ~

Picaflor 7/4 28th November 2009 07:45 PM

^I'm still trying to find jade lyrics and aren't really getting anywhere. and when I say lyrics, I mean booklet scans. :/

njanjayrp 28th November 2009 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4 (Post 2170371)
^I'm still trying to find jade lyrics and aren't really getting anywhere. and when I say lyrics, I mean booklet scans. :/

I have the Korean ADDICTED, I don't have a scanner though xD

ren0210989 29th November 2009 01:35 AM

i always heard:
Did you lose him?
Gal (or girl :P) replace him,
hate him and even so
you don't ever [need to] think you can beat him...

i always tought Ayu messed a bit with Jade's lyrics here because, let's face it, she'd sound like a crazy maniac who's trying to kill her past boyfriend xD :roflmao

behwatch 29th November 2009 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4 (Post 2169781)
^well since ayu is singing the same thing as jade in ladies night, are there lyrics in her album booklet?

and no matter how many times someone says "this is what she's saying" unless you have proof. I'm not going to believe you. :rolleyes



lol yes, that is exactly what I hear. bickka cafaded, but I didn't want to put that cause it's nonsense.

haha ya but doesnt seem anyone got that singles.... I am using monitoring equipments to hear these though.

How about the ayumix gold lyrics? does it have the words?:rolleyes

Here is the edited ayumix gold version to slow it down and remove some percussions
ladies night

AyuHamasaki01 29th November 2009 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainbow141 (Post 2167243)
[COLOR="Teal"]^Huh?

Oh....this was asked before. I'm sorry! I didn't know, and the search feature wasn't working... I know it's no excuse, but.... :(

I'm sorry if I sounded harsh to you... I didn't mean to, it's just, a part from this question being asked so many times, people (no offense guys) are always posting like "hey, I hear this ..."/"no, that's not right, I clearly hear this".
And that while it's probably (well, most likely) the same as in Sweetbox's version. :tipsy

:grouphug

Party_King 20th August 2012 02:56 PM

maybe this?

DJ
rude him
cut
erase him [danger]
hate him
even so
you don't ever [need to] ...?

jewelbox 20th August 2012 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ren0210989 (Post 2170601)
i always heard:
Did you lose him?
Gal (or girl :P) replace him,
hate him and even so
you don't ever [need to] think you can beat him...

This is exactly what I hear too

ExodusUK 20th August 2012 10:23 PM

It would be nice if Ayu did rap live NOW considering her English has improved leaps and bounds since 2005.

Kuronekomi 20th August 2012 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impracticable (Post 1051864)
Nah, dosen't matter, its just as hard to understand what the are sayng. But in the booklet of the Sweetbox CD "Addicted" it says the lyrics are

Leave him, lose him, cut, replace him
danger
Hate him, then erase him
You don't ever [need to] think you can't leave him [need to] ......

and they words in both sound the same

I think these lyrics definitely fits the song

susiowong 20th August 2012 11:21 PM

I've always heard:

Did you lose him? Can't replace him [them?]. Hey then, even so, you don't ever need to think you can [save him]... ?

Maybe the Sweetbox version is the right one, though.

jewelbox 20th August 2012 11:31 PM

^Your version sounds also pretty possible

Sandy 21st August 2012 04:40 PM

This is what I sing, when I'm singing along:

Did ya loose him? Gotta replace him [danger]. Hate him, then even so, you don't ever [need to] think you can fade (although I hear "feed" xD) him. [need to]

And the second time I sing/hear "beat" insted of "fade"... The song doesn't really make sense to me, so I'm happy with what I've got :D

Here's a better listen to that particular part of the song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-y3Z_eSZxs

Party_King 21st August 2012 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExodusUK (Post 2898199)
It would be nice if Ayu did rap live NOW considering her English has improved leaps and bounds since 2005.

how true ...

Delirium-Zer0 21st August 2012 08:38 PM

The problem there is that from the beginning Ayu was probably mimicking Jade in the Sweetbox demo version of the song (by ear so the sounds are right but she didn't know what the actual words or meaning were), and even in the Sweetbox version you can't really understand what Jade is saying for most of that rap anyway.

Party_King 11th September 2012 02:31 AM

^ ahhh... i agree with u...

...and/but i KNOW both Ladies Night don't have the same rap...
jade was talking anything with music :/

Pieces_of_SEVEN 12th September 2012 05:46 AM

Hasn't this always pretty much been speculation anyway...haha

Party_King 12th September 2012 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2906978)
Hasn't this always pretty much been speculation anyway...haha

yeah' you're right ^^

FoObY 13th September 2012 04:54 PM

In my mind I hear "Ditch him, lose him, [something something]. Hate him then even so, you don't ever, think how I feel."

untitled-for-her 21st October 2012 05:53 AM

"Did you leave them,
you can't replace them,
(???)
Hating them,
even so,
you don't ever... (???)"

and then the second time, it's "Did you lose them"

That's what I hear. :|
And I think it's her. It sounds like her to me.


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