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I like the tracklists...allthough I wish there was heartplace, memorial address, rainbow, and alterna....I dont really like fairyland and greatful days there..but good thing my names woman in there:D
thank god!!!!!!! bold and delicious is not there!!!! Please ayu, if you do have A BEST 3 later, DONT put that in there! Oh that reminds me....in A BEST, there was no album title songs (except for a song for xx)...so maybe thats why there is no i am, memorial address, rainbow, in this one... |
pfff there are some A ballad songs... it's a pity : voyage, dearest, hanabi and "i don't remembe rthe other title"
not a good choice for (m)u : Alterna? Ladies night (instead of fairyland for exemple)? B&D or pride? no Rainbow, no "Theme of A nation", no forgiveness... my favorite down tempo (except Moments, Carols and others) aren(t here... I rather listen that than the A ballad re-released here... July 1st, fairyland, greatfull days, inspire => i love that song but that should be on a summer best or just in A nation perf... independant => on concert it's cool... on cd it's boring ! |
thanks great tracklist the best =D!
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IMO, AVEX decided to take the info out because it was too early and the new tracks were still without an official name. |
Wow, I'm so surprised she put Greatful Days. Yuckkkkkkkkk.
However, I'm glad there's nothing from Secret, and little from MU. I mean, that was a major problem with A Ballads, imo. Too many songs were from the recently released Rainbow. Let's go great sales with these two! |
I like Greatful days.
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Black looks like it's gonna pwn White. Or at least, I think so.
I already preordered Black, so we're good to go now. ^^ |
I was hoping for a "MY STORY" track :(
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OMG OMG OMG only 4 (miss)understood songs! That means that besides UNITE! and the aforementioned songs, I'll hear every song for the first time. Do I like that? I'm not sure.
The fact that she included album tracks is so great, though. |
omg I though B&D would be definitly in there, but nice track list, will get both n_n
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OMG this is really surprising for me!!!
There is no B&D, Ladies Night, Pride, rainy day???? And I can't imagine listening to Voyage after Real me? and my name's WOMEN after Moments? It's quite... Well... I can't explain... It's really different from the usual arrangement, heh? But,,, These aren't that bad... Really confused which one to buy.. Probably will buy both... And I'm really curious n excited about the new song! Hope it's gonna be real good |
the black version is going to own the white version people say. It could be true dang it means i have to go out and buy the korean version of A-BEST with the post cards lol
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I love the tracklisting so much but I would want to replace like About You with alterna. I love that song. I am getting both black and white hopefully.
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I'm happy with every choice on here save Because of You - but since so many fans love that song, it was due for a spot regardless.
I'm a bit surprised Bold & Delicious didn't make it, though. I was sure it would, given the span that was supposed to be covered. Maybe for the next BEST album? As for people wanting rainy day, Ladies Night, (miss)understood album tracks... you do realize the time span that was to be covered on here was up until Bold & Delicious got released, right? NOT until (miss)understood got released. There's a difference. Looks like a promising set. |
one question, what version will Endless sorrow be? I really really hope the original mix...... >>;
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hmm shocked B&D isn't on there seeing as how that was definately one of her hugely popular songs off (m)u in Japan.
something seems suspicious about this...is it normal for them to release tracklists that include songs that haven't been titled? I would think that the new song would be named before they would release the tracklist...hmm gould be wrong though. Overall, i do think that most of the songs were expected...however what's About You about? that's very odd. |
No Bold & Delicious. Doesn't really surprise me. I'm glad HANABI ~episode II~ is included (thought they might not have all the & songs).
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yay!! I'm pleased with both tracklists! I'm throwing a party tonight for the absence of "B&D". srsly. im so happy. :p not that i hate the song... i just dont want to EVER see it near anything with "best" in the title. hehe.
but yes! im very excited and expect to get black first.. then white later on. wee! |
I'm actually quite shocked that About You is on the tracklist... but either ayu really likes it, or the fans really like it (after all the fans in JPN voted MY STORY as the best album). For alterna, probly JPN people don't like it that much, so that's why avex doesn't put this one..
I wonder if daybreak is the original version or HAL's MIX 2002 version...? and I kinda wish she would put "I am..." there.. I love that song so much.. |
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Yay! I'm 100% satisfied
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Actually I shouldn't say "All the fans in JPN"... should change to "many fans" LOL. Didn't realize what I type :P |
Well, now isn't this exciting.
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I am gonna have to say Greatful Days, Fairyland, and No Way to Say don't belong on these!
And where the BLEEP is Alterna? |
wow. i guess they really didn't think there were that many good songs from (m)u...
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Bold & Delicious was released AFTER (miss)understood so no (m)u album tracks would be put on ABEST2 |
good thing that the songs in these albums are from evolution- Bold & delicious hopefully people will still buy the secret album. I am hoping that she doesn't rearrange or add new vocal in any of the songs in the tracklist.
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Also, although I love Dearest to pieces and it is surely one of her greatest songs, it's already on A Ballads. I would have liked it if they had put a different song in its place.
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Since Dearest was already on A BALLADS (as was Voyage), maybe they're doing special mixes or re-recordings for these? It just seems redundant to have them both on two BEST albums (as I consider BALLADS a best).
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I need the A BEST -Black- like right now XD
i love it <3 |
Black <3~~~~
But I really wanted B&D and Pride, damn. |
Well, I like the song selection; thanks ot the color-coding, you can tell it's pretty evenly distributed. But with official PVs ALREADY out, BLACK is only missing "HANABI" and "NEVER EVER"; while WHITE is missing "July 1st", "independent", "UNITE!", and "A Song is born".
To be honest, I never would have thought of A Song is born. |
The CD tracklist is pretty good! Some are suprising and some I'm like "YES! Totally belongs there!"
Exciting! |
Well, I was expecting more songs.
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I was expecting pride...and alterna over about you...and maybe a new music video like a HANABI NUMBER 1...nah
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Nice tracklists, though I'm disappointed alterna is not there, I'm quite happy that About you is there, one of my favorites ever.
Black is awesome, I wish it had more tracks though lol, White is, a little...well some of the songs there I didn't expect to be there, ourselves, moments, the rest is kind of what is to be expected. I want these, I think I'll get them. |
Hmm, I like the tracklisting, definatly some suprises!
I'm happy to see Real Me on it, that was the first Ayu song i ever heard. :) |
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I am... REALLY DISAPPOINTED! How could they leave that out! OMG! I feel like writing a letter. Another thing - WHY is there no RAINBOW? I know it was already on A BALLADS but so was Dearest. Dearest IS OVERKILL - It's been on SOOOOO many things already. It was a single, It was on I am..., It was on A BALLADS + remixed to death! It's like UGH! Enough with Dearest already! I know she likes it and whatever but EWWWW! RAINBOW would've been WAYYYYYY better. And it was only on 1 other release. Another thing.... NO ANGEL'S SONG! WTF? *slaps avex* It's really a disappointment to me. And also to include walking proud and A song is born is an insult! Those songs are so ew! Worst BEST collection EVER! |
okay.
why is ourselves in the white version. the PV, lyrics and music just scream to be put on the black version. same goes for Moments, that's more of a depressing song then an uplifting one a la UNITE or something. but I am really, really happy About you made it. That is my favorite song. I'm dumbfounded on some choices over others though....a lot of the songs weren't great hits anyway like independent. Why isn't RAINBOW there? Duty? M? ever free? Memorial Address? I am..? Those songs easily fit the 'troubled mood' theme that the black one has, more then dearest or walking proud. |
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Hmm I also wonder what their gonna do with "NEVER EVER" and "A Song is born" considering neither have PVs. Since "walking proud" is included I hope we get a new rendition of it, but it is one of my favorite ballads so I don't mind it being featured on the disc. -Edit- Oops my reply was too slow! So ignore the first part! |
wait, it could be possible that the tracklist is removed because Avex wants the songs to have a pv? and since some of the tracks don't have, they took it down?
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^ Why? Did Avex have the tracklist up before? :confused
I don't understand why people want alterna on this BEST collection. Okay, yes, it's an awesome song. But if you ask me, I don't really think alterna really fits the definition of "A BEST." A Song is born is a touching song, though I don't understand the whole walking proud thing either. Maybe because it has a PV? Whatever, I'm still happy. :tbiggrin |
i will surely buy both!
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I'm really pleased with the tracklisting! There isn't anything from Secret on there, though...O_O Surprising. I wish Bold & Delicious was on there, though...
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The only one that kinda shocked me in being included is 'a song is born', but I'm very happy that it is. I wonder if that is going to be re-recorded, or if its going to the version with KEIKO or whatever (hopefully not).
I'm a little disappointed that they left out B&D and Pride, actually. They would have added a bit of her recent style to the albums. And I love those songs. 'Naturally', I thought should have definitely been included. Maybe it wasn't a popular album track, but I'd rather have that than 'Because of You'. I kinda had a feeling alterna would be left out. Avex probably like hates that song. Quote:
EDIT: They shoulda really put flower garden on WHITE, it's only a 2 minute track and a concert favorite. It should have its own track number for once LOL. |
I wonder if Ayu hand selected the bests herself pronally, with what she felt was "painful" or "bright."
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dang mixed reviews its like (miss)understood all over again lol
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Actually, I don't think these reviews are "mixed," it's just that a lot of people were expecting a few other songs.
Being a best, she's included JUST ABOUT every single song that she's made over the 19-single span between evolution and B&D [except for B&D and forgiveness] and a few album tracks that have their own promotional videos. I don't really see what anyone could see wrong with these lists in the first place.. |
Yeah but why Dearest again? o.o Its so ew now
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if you put the songs Dolls, Close to you, and Dearest all on, one after another, i wouldnt be able to tell oyu which was which. They are some of the few songs i dont know really well. [Mostl i dont know lovePPEARS and A Soing for XX songs] but yeah i know all the songs from I am .. on with only the exceptions of the songs i named above. |
If there is no Dearest in this BEST Album, then HANABI will not also be in the BEST because they both were in A BALLADS, two different singles, remixed album, and so on.
Hold on, who the **** wants to see my post? I highly doubt people would read in here. Snotty memebers just like to complain how worst the albums are and never reads. |
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Most people know Ayu either from THIS SONG or evolution from some AMV. ;p And I differentiate the songs by: Close to you -> Xmas song with bells Dearest -> has the "ah.. _________" Dolls -> Don't know.. :o I usually have to look at the title :O |
I really wanted RAINBOW and alterna to be included :dead2
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Perhaps Ayu doesn't consider either to be her "best" work? Or maybe there's another force at work here? And for RAINBOW, it was already the main focus of A BALLADS, so there's no need to put it on this compilation. :\ http://vote.acrweb.com/html/pato.html I wonder if this was.. "rigged" lol |
EDIT: what I said here no longer makes sense in context... you guys post too fast XD
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Yeah, I don't see why Dearest shouldn't be on it. Just because some people are sick of the song, I think it's probably her biggest classic from 2001 up until now. It's probably the song that a majority of the Japanese public would recognize.
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I really do not agree with Dearest being there though. While I like every ayu song, this one is at the bottom of the list for me, it just can get really annoying. I would have left it out and put in alterna and rearranged the tracklist. I guess, yes, probably the biggest reason why we don't want Dearest to be on it is because we're sick of it, but I also think that perhaps that the song was put on the album may not have been her move, unless she just loves it that much, however, yes, the fact that Dearest is there, is to be expected. |
I think a lot of people would substitute __________ [being a song that is not particularly liked like Greatful days] with alterna any day.
But I wonder if it was an issue with "theme." Does alterna really have to do with pain as much as it does with anger? |
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From now on, I can wait for the cd covers :P... (since the tracklists are out). |
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I don't mind that will is not there, it wasn't that great IMO But RAINBOW... even though it was on A BALLADS and the main focus - it IS one of her best works. And not a lot of people bought A BALLADS so it would've been awesome to include it on a "real" Best. |
anthony: for those of us that love the song, I really don't think that we would care about theme you know? Just the fact that it should be there. I mean, theme probably is something that should be taken into consideration, but, you know, when we want a song there, we want a song there, whether it goes or not. But then I guess, instead of having a million posts about why a song isn't there, we might have a million posts about why it doesn't go. So, I mean, neverending battle...
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Does the Japanese public even like alterna that much though? :O
http://vote.acrweb.com/html/pato.html It has 4 votes. I wonder how many people actually used this.. RAINBOW is amazing, and I thought it was going to be on here too, but there really isn't a reason to feature it.. it would've been some lone album-fodder in the middle of all the other album's tracks :\ |
I don't know...I kind of got the feeling that they did, from all her fans, and then once, I remember when I watched it live for the first time, I remarked to martin about the cheering from the audience when alterna started, and he replied with something like, "you should have been there, you have no idea..."
maybe I just kind of got the impression that everyone really loved this song, of course he was among tons of ayu fans, as are we now, so I have no idea. |
I really think RAINBOW deserves for a place on this upcoming BEST... However, to make the people feeling satisfy for owning A BALLADS, it shouldn't be on A BEST 2 then.. I mean, many people would buy A BALLADS just because of this song. I didn't buy it because I think it's not worthing... I have A BEST already and there're quite a few songs appeared again on A BALLADS (e.g., SEASONS, TO BE, etc.)
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I'm thankful that the majority of the singles and album tracks with PVs made it.
But I'm a bit bitter over the exclusion of ANGEL'S SONG. [one of the few excluded] Oh, and with the removal, I think there's a very slim chance that there will be tracklist revision. Whether or not this will add songs that we want, or remove from what is already there, I don't know.. |
Thanks for posting.
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I bet if Dearest WASN'T on there, there'd be a LOT of upset people... It's one of Ayumi's most well known songs and it's a classic. It deserves to be on A BEST 2...
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:yatta not only do I get my connection back, but I also get the tracklisting I've been wanting for EVER to see. :) The only disappointment is no RAINBOW. which I see, has already been discussed. :(
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Well, thankfully, there's only a few upset people [at the lack of alterna, amazingly.]
Just go buy fairyland or (m)u or something. :B Oh, I forgot to mention. BEST of CDL06-07 will NOT be released separately. The mu-mo shop "confirms it." So a lot of people will probably buy White for this reason.. |
I'm buying WHITE and BLACK then.
I wonder: What if 'Secret' was intended to be on A BEST 2 instead of the album Secret? Like they did with RAINBOW and A BALLADS.. The lyrics of 'Secret' seem very appropriate to be on a BEST album. |
If Ayu's gonna re-sing anything, she had better re-sing Real me. Then we can get some understandable English. xD
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LOL... seems like many people wish ayu to resing Real me. :D
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yes im one of those that is happy with dearest being there. :D For me the black version has a better tracklist than the white...simply coz I dont really like greatful days and fairyland...but I rather have those than bold and delicious, pride. :dead2 Im very pleased with walking proud, my names women, daybreak, ourselves, etc being there...I have not purchased my copy of memorial address so I dont have pvs of some of those songs there...so this is good for me :D 15 tracks is good for me....A BEST had 16...just one track short but thats ok.
I hope ayu will resing a song is born and no way to say....I love the live version of no way to say....she adds the extra lala part at the end which makes it a lot better :D Thats why for a song for xx A BEST version is my favorite :luv2 |
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I can't believe there's no Bold & Delicious...or Pride!!!
It would've been nice if at least one of the songs from that single would've been included, but who knows, it might be on A BEST 3 lol. |
I wish they will suddenly add B&D to the white + Pride to the black later on (ahh I must be daydreaming..)
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With the CDL coming with a "bundle" [COMPLETE LIVE BOX sold like hotcakes~.] |
Avex probably doesn't like Alterna very much...
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I don't think any blame should be placed on avex.
[Will has been excluded from like, everything. I assume that Ayu chooses songlists and stuff..] |
I don't really want to buy either because I have all of her CDs and don't want to pay $45 for songs I already have... the new song better be amazing.
Also, it's so tricky of them to not have the Countdown Live and new song in the same version! They'll do anything to make you buy both versions. Either way, if I do buy them, there is no way I'm buying the Japan versions. It's just too much for songs I already have! |
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Don't forget the new pictures, covers and bragging rights you get along with the music :P
edit: remember WHITE also comes with the CDL DVD version, which will be a lot HQ than the TV version. plus that's the same with all BEST albums. It's all old stuff, yet they still sell so well. |
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So that they can get a "taste" of everything. And it's not really tricky.. I think that they wanted to do a single release, but it would've costed quite a lot [2CD+3DVD?] |
omg.. now i def want to buy both of them... IM GONNA BROKE~~~
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The chief reason she uses so many tracks off MY STORY is that this album was her most successful album in in the 2004 year, which sold a million copies and it was quite rare to see such a success after the emergence of mp3~~~~ In order to celebrate and to bear in mind such a worthwhile moment, she uses so many MY STORY tracks^^~ (just take a guess)
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i hope NEVER EVER, HANABI, independent, July 1st and A Song is born has PVs!!! weeee....
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I agree with you, this is marketing. Avex uses the SELLING CONCEPT in the marketing philosophies as they focus on heavy promotion and selling effort. They seek for existing buyers and selling them their existing products in particular the benefits in order to gain profit via sales volume.
They knew this time they have to satisfy their EXISTING customers, by providing old songs they want to emphasize that AYU's songs are superb and nobody hate listening (benefits of existing products).~~ haah~ This is a so-called Inside-out perspectives~~~ Quote:
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MY STORY had the largest concentration of PVs as well~
[Only one out of like, 7 to not make it was Humming 7/4] |
now you talk about it.. you're correct!! Goodness! Oh well kick out About you then since I dun really like that song anywayz LOL :P.
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hmmm, looking at the tracklist, I'll probably be buying White, because the songs are nicer (in my opinion) and the PVs are nice. And I wonder how they'
re including a PV for A Song is Born and Independent.. |
I'm happy : I have only 2 Ayumi's albums (because my credit card doesn't work on internet... soon change it !!!). MY STORY and Secret !
So I'm glad to know that I'll buy the A Best even if all my favorite track are not in them (forgiveness, rainbow, theme of a nation, alterna, b&d and pride missed)... Anyway I'll buy them without any regret but I understand why true/deep fans are a little disgusted : only 1 new song... coastly for them ! I hope that advertisement will be as big as the A best one : lot of CM !!! for the white : all the PVs won't be in... I thought it was a selection according to the tracklist ! just a question : will the CDL be available in an only DvD or not? |
how come nobody's hoping that About You wud get a pv in here? it needs one!
im so glad that all my faves such as Because of You, About You, Walking Proud, Free & Easy, is this LOVE made it up there. n HEAVEN is a MUST! the only tracks not worthy i think are Greatful Days and A Song is Born.. overall im happy with the tracklisting..black definitely pawns white! |
^Because About you already has a PV.
Though some people might be happy to have a different pv for it, I quite like the about you pv. the song just makes it 100x better. I love About you. I also agree with you about Greatful days...I never really got into that song... |
Something alot of people have to understand about BEST collections is this: They're not for fans. They're really not. They're for casual listeners, who like alot of ayu's stuff but not really enough that they MUST buy every album, they must get everything. Avex is being smart (and evil) by making the first press edition with the 2 dvds: it's the only way to make it marketable to the die-hard fans who must have everything. The intent behind Best collections is to gather up the songs that were most popular (as far as single sales, radio requests, karaoke, and general exposure), not the actual "best" songs. Not the ones that fans like the best. The intent behind making a best album is usually making all the popular stuff available in one place, not exposing casual fans to an artist's best work. It's not meant as a jumping-off point for new listeners who should hear the best examples of an artist's overall sound and artistic ability.
So yeah, that's why Greatful Days is on there and alterna isn't. |
It makes me wonder now that Ai Otsuka's 13-track/13-PV best album is coming exactly a month after..
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