If it's really only Bye Bye and its instrumental, that'd suck so much. Seems like they only made this a recut single just for the sake of adding in a PV. I hope this is not the case :(

Especially at how many PV's we had in the "LOVE LETTER" era....it's too much.

Plus if they were already planning on making a PV of Bye Bye why not push back the album date =\ Kinda pointless to make a recut like that imo.

(Besides if it's pushed back I may have had enough time to realize the CD+DVD has special packaging as first press too and bought that instead...)

if there're additional pics inside the booklet , I think it's ok ? :shrug

I wonder what else avex is getting her to do in California.

I doubt they would fly her all the way there for just a PV. I'm sure they are going to make full use of the trip as much as possible.

The PV for Bye Bye is nice but also a bit boring.
I never listen to the full song until now but now I ask me why I don't have do it.It's a very great song

aww the pv is really nice :heart i liked the end :D

and it isnt goingto have a b-side? how sucky :grumpy

Hopefully there's something. Even a crappy remix is better than an instrumental.

it's just the instrumental, guys. do you think avex would really put alot of effort into a recut single? :laugh

lol good point Lisa

if avex were to surprise me by including a new song or 2 in the single , that will be something

I hope her next single will be better. Seems Ai is in her low popularity times now. :/

I still think her best songs are from 2004 - 2005. ^^

aww.. with onli instrumental in this single wld be so boring -_-

^ was that when LOVE COOK came out? cuz i think that's her best album... it has Hanaeri Tamago, Cherish, the ramen song and more :P

She released LOVE COOK in 2005, and yeah, that's also my favourite album of hers. <3

The "680 Yen song" single anyone? Wasn't that a re-cut as well, but still had even two B-sides (and a re-arranged A-side)?

Avex are doing a terrible job with the Bye Bye single, w/ no b-side. :grumpy :rolleyes

it's her 1st recut single & the difference's that it was arranged differently in terms of lyrics & how much the price of the beef tongue's :laugh

I think LOVE COOK's her best album that she has put out to date imo & it has Planetarium which's prob her best single that she released to date

omg I swear I CANNOT hear Planetarium now because whenever I hear it , it will remind me of HYD :(

What's HYD? *unsure*.

HYD = Hana Yori Dango

Planetarium's used as an insert song for the 1st season

Oh, I see.

Planetarium was the first single I heard from Ai Otsuka. I didn't really like it at first, but then it grew on me. ^^

frankly I was shocked when I 1st heard Planetarium as that was the song which changed my whole perception on her

I 1st heard Sakuranbo which I didn't like but after hearing Planetarium , I was converted immediately

I thought Sakuranbo was annoying at first, but then thought it was catchy and fun song later on.

:love

ya I find it very annoying initally . Then my younger sister played for me Planetarium & I was totally sold to otsuka after that :laugh

it helped that after watching the 1st season of HYD , I like the song even more than before (& that was where I got Jun-baited :innocent)

I also found Happy Days to be a bit annoying at first, lol. XD

oh that's surprising because I like Happy Days but yet at 1st I can't tolerate Sakuranbo

sakuranbo was the first song i've heard from her, and the song really hooked me up.

and i think the second song was momo no hanabira, quite surprise that artist cover her song (an artist that i hate so much that i dont want to type/think about her name :eviltongu)

and finally planetarium was the song that really attract me to her writing song's talent and vocal. the track is perfect.

Lol, i'm actually the opposite. I find Sakuranbo totally irritating now, lol.

I don't like Cyndi Wang's version of Momo no Hanabira. Ai's verion is so much better! :love

I don't basically associate "PLANETARIUM" with HanaDan, because I liked the song before I even knew that it was an insert song for HanaDan and before I watched the dorama.

The first song by ai I heard was "Kingyo Hanabi" (I think). ^^

lol I'm different Aga , I 1st heard Planetarium way before I watched HYD last year so ya

the song's a masterpiece really , it's sad she can't come up with another song like that til KN came by

Huh? So isn't that the same situation? Just that I don't associate it with HanaDan so much. That would be the difference. ^^

I like "KURAGE, Nagareboshi", but it's kind of like Kingyo Hanabi + PLANETARIUM = KURAGE, Nagareboshi. Even the title shows it with the reference to an ocean animal and stars.

When did HYD start playing Planetarium?

And yeah, I agree that KURAGE is a hybrid of those two songs. -___-

^I can't remember but maybe in every single episode? Specially if it gets emotional or romantic or whatnot.

The first time I heard Otsuka was on a-nation 05 (Smily) when a friend sent me a copy of the DVD. I didn't really like Smily that much but I loved Daisuki da yo, later on when Planetarium was released at first I thought it was ok, and needed some time to really start loving it.

Lol. I remember the first time I saw the Smily PV, I thought it was so funny, with those men in the PV. :rofl

oh yeah sorry about that :dead2

the very 1st HYD season was aired 4 years ago

If I recall I think Planetarium was played on almost every episode in season 1

man that time when it was aired , Domoyoji rushed to the school to rescue Makino & he was beaten real badly & after that he confessed that he likes her

aw :(

^Never mind. ^^ I was just surprised.

And spoilers anyone? lol You should keep in mind that some maybe haven't seen HanaDan yet.

haha why ? not much spoilers going on in the 1st season because imo it wasn't really that entertaining as much as the 2nd season & the movie eventually

besides I don't think folks in the otsuka thread are that much Johnny inclined

^Not everyone who watches a dorama that stars Johnny's is a Johnny's fan. xD It's almost impossible to watch a dorama without Johnny's starring in it. :lmfao

omg, you are right!

I watched ROOKIES, and Shirota Yuu was in it.

Then VOICE, and Toma Ikuta was in that one. LOL. XD

First Ai song I heard was Cherish. I don't why but I was browsing through her official site and clicked on the album tab. This was around the time LOVE COOK ws first released so it first, clicked on Cherish, and fell in love. After hearing the preview, about10 seconds later I downloaded it off of Limewire.

man Cherish's awesome downpat Melody

it's sad that she hasn't come up with yet another great angsty rock driven no. since then :(

I noticed that they used the same breathing parts in Cherish and in Kurage Nagareboshi.

The part where Ai breathes in the song, lol. XD

J-WAVE Live 2000+8 performance can be downloaded at Jpopsuki:


http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/...em_683fa2e.jpg

^ thankyou :D which song did she prform?

i think the first song i head from her was SMILY or Sakuranbo.. and my first obsession was Momo no Hanabira :love i really dont understand that it was such a flop... i love that song =/

My first was sakuranbo also, and my first obsession was momo no hanabira. I could listen to that song on repeat for daaays at that time. :love

I think it's kind of sad how my taste in her music is so different than her other fans'? Like I REALLY do not like planetarium or think it's a good song at all, and for me LOVE COOK is her worst album (excluding LOVE LETTER) - yet everyone else's favorite is LOVE COOK and planetarium. @_@

Maybe it's because I got into her a good amount of time before planetarium came out, so I was really used to her more pop-y childish songs... explaining why I hated it when she started trying to do a more "rock" childish sound. I loved her music so much, and the moment SMILY/bi-dama came out I was like, "...what is this. -_-"

And it's all been downhill from there for me. :love Though I still do like/love a pretty decent portion of her songs since LOVE JAM, nothing will ever compare to LOVE PUNCH/LOVE JAM days for me.

As for planetarium, I just cannot like that song no matter how hard I try. It's so flat, and it just builds up to this climax that it never reaches.

^^I can see why you wouldn't like Planetarium, though. I personally love it, but that's only because I heard it in HYD. I really disliked it before then (well...disliked isn't the right word. I just thought it was really boring >_<). So it's only because of HYD that I love it now. :) And when I listen to it images of Domyouji and Makino float through my head. :love

My first song was CHU-LIP (I actually saw the PV), and I fell in love. :luv2 Though that PV made me think her hair was always blonde. XD Then I heard Cherish next and I was officially an Ai fan after that. :)

frankly nowadays whenever I hear Planterium , BANG , HYD will come into my mind :weep

I really miss her classic works like that one & also Kingyo Hanabi & her debut single

I still find it a bit odd that her debut single didn't sold that well it's such a cheery tune

i'm surprised planetarium would be disliked. i loved it instantly when i watched HYD for the FIRST time :laugh

I didn't even know that it was used in HYD til I watched the whole drama last year -_-'''

I know it's that bad but hey at least it's better than not knowing it at all

I love it even more now especially when it was aired on episode 3 of HYD sigh :weep

Heard Planterium without the Hana Yori Dango tie-in.

SMILY made to like ai otsuka very much :) , i love that song to death lol, whenever im feelin' down, that song puts smile on my face, its so happy and cheerful (and yeah, childish lol)

Every time I listen to SMILY, I always do the chicken wing, stand on one leg pose.

:roflmao oh Melody :lmfao

I also like Biidama , the PV's just too cute for words

Bidama, ohh... the marble song... Oh, I love that song too.

I think all her songs are really good. :love

I didn't watch HYD so I didn't know abt Ai's Planetarium. only when one fren of mine wanna hear it so I went to listen to it too. I don't quite like the song either. :p
But somehow I think I prefer her verse than the chorus. Same goes for Cherish.

The first Ai song I like is Kingyo Hanabi. It is <3!! the ending of the song had a climax.. it was WOW!

CHU-LIP was a different look of Ai is it? I can't help laughing when I see the pv first time of Ai's dance n all that. hahaz. But I soon like it too after tat :D

I actually found out about Planetarium through Ayumi's single "HEAVEN". LOL.

Back in 2005, I think Ai's single was released the week after the single, (or was it before? or the same week?) And I decided to give Planetarium a try. <3

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO dont mention her name AGAIN!!

that song fit in my least favourite song from ai

Reposting this again, since it got lost a few pages ago:

The new CM for download, credits to budonkadonk @ JPM:

^thankyouuu, she looks so cute in that pic :love downloading it :D

oh! she was in an interview with WHAT's IN WEB :
http://www.channel-ai.com/gallery/d/.../081217_01.jpg http://www.channel-ai.com/gallery/d/.../081217_02.jpg http://www.channel-ai.com/gallery/d/.../081217_03.jpg http://www.channel-ai.com/gallery/d/.../081217_04.jpg http://www.channel-ai.com/gallery/d/.../081217_05.jpg http://www.channel-ai.com/gallery/d/.../081217_06.jpg http://www.channel-ai.com/gallery/d/.../081217_07.jpg http://www.channel-ai.com/gallery/d/.../081217_09.jpg http://www.channel-ai.com/gallery/d/.../081217_10.jpg

credits to Channel-ai

cute photoshoot! thanks! :P

I want her sea green tights!

Is there a way to see those imagine in full size? I can't get them bigger than the thumbnails. :/ They look so gorgeous!!! :(

I'm guessing that is only size that's avaiable.

Congrats Sugarbasil for your new position. :yes

Those pics are so lovely. :love

Same here. The pics look awesome. And I want to see her clothes in detail. :(

the photoshoots are nice. But Ai back to short hair again??!! oh my..

Thanks! ^_^ I get to cover all of the music threads, which pretty much means I'm gonna die with all the drama that goes down in the Artist and Bands section. :thud Y'all better best behave!! I'm watching you!!! *points fingers* Haha. But there are never any problems in the Ai Otsuka thread. And that's pretty much because her fans rock hardcore. :laugh

And I really want to get my hair cut like hers. Once we get bigger pictures I'm gonna take them to my hairstylist and get it done. :)

ah!!! there is a bigger version! but you have to be logged in lol XDD i will post upload them en post them here :D

*goes off to imageshack*

guess she was just wearing a wig :(

EDIT:: OK!!! all uploaded :D:D


:love

actually, that photoshoot was really from last month, lol. (it was around the LOVE LETTER promotion time) so her current hair is either extensions, a wig, or it really did grow that long in such a short period of time, lol.

I don't really consider Ai as a fashionable person but those last few pics of her in red are so pretty :love

thanks hearted & looks like there only be an instrumental that will be included in Bye Bye - http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/3508932

:dead2

Damn, I was afarid that there would be no B-side.

:(

CDJapan stated on their site without the instrumental & I just emailed them to double check on this

Congrats on your new position.

The other day, I had wondered where Ryoko went, and whether they were going to get a 2nd MOD for this sub-forum, and then you came along! Good stuff! :D

wa.. wouldn't it be depressing to have onli 2 tracks on the single? o_O

There is no way the single will sell. . . if people like the song they will just buy the album, wont they? Maybe that the plan, lol?

It just seems stupid to have this as a single, maybe a digital single with a pv? But I have the feeling this is going to chart horribly and will kill any momentum she had left.

(don't get me wrong though, I want this to be number 1, I'm just highly doubting that at this point lol)

The way I see it, avex is just releasing this re-cut single to keep her in the spotlight. <_<

^ yeah.. can't expect it to go too well for the way they are doing for Bye Bye.

not that Star

I have a feeling that it wouldn't have a B-side at all which sucks man , she's prob going to have the same type of results as Ken Hirai when he put out his 1st one last April which totally bombed

Has her official site even updated yet about the tracklist? It should have by now...

http://www.avexnet.or.jp/ai , nothing on her site leh :(

btw does anyone want scans of the CD + DVD booklet of LL ? I can do it later on if you want to

because my copy's a digipak , I'm not able to scan it up with the scanner & the pics that were in the CD & DVD are the same & so white :dead2

Yes, please, Karen. Thanks! :)

:laugh I get right to it now , I just scan the booklet since it's impossible to do so for a digipak

oh that wld be nice :D

ta dah it's here - http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showth...79#post1823279

Thanks so much, Karen. ^^

I emailed CDJapan & this's what they said in their reply :

Hi Karen

Thank you for your mail.

Bye Bye includes the following 2 songs.
1: Bye Bye
2: Bye Bye (Instrumental)

:( no B-sides booo

^Bummer. -_- I didn't expect that, because so far all her singles had at least one B-side. And a re-cut with no B-side or another extra track won't do too well.

yeah I thought so too . Looks like that's not going to happen now bah :weep

yup & also the one that's stated on http://www.neowing.co.jp/track_for_c...KEY=AVCD-31592 is wrong

I emailed CDJapan about it because I saw on HMV Japan that it listed the instrumental of Bye Bye & CDJapan didn't so I did that to double confirm on this

otsuka will be performing at MUSIC STATION next Fri :)

CDJapan should put the tracklisting on their site. UGGH... and their way of doing things seems so disorganized... you having to e-mail them about the tracklisting. -___-

Dang I feel so cheated xD

:rofl

at least you're getting it ok Travis , I'm not . Already so poor man , the weeks to come I probably have to cut grass :lmfao

Is the BYE BYE single priced reasonably? -___-

It's $17.43 CDN for me. -___- Which is about $14-15 US I think.

Japanese music is so expensive. :/

er ya

they don't skim on the quality of the item , be it the CD , CD case & the booklet

you're basically paying top quality notch for their items & naturally if you're born/living in Japan , you don't feel the pinch .

1300 Yen to them it's like their $13 to us

I paid $25 including tax for my copies of ai am BEST and Love Piece. $25 each, and $50 for both CD's.

I already saved money, cus both were Overseas editions.

I wonder if BYE BYE will have an overseas edition? Ahh... gotta love those OS versions. The majority of the time, the price is half of the Japan versions. o_O.....