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ayu_ready? 21st April 2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Maemi (Post 2854939)
^ LOL no matter what people say, Utada will ALWAYS have better vocals than Ayu. It's the fact.

definately. I hate their both techniques but their voices & vocal range are uncomparable, lol

Lady~Deviance 21st April 2012 06:47 PM

Please take the "Hikki vs Ayu" fan war somewhere else. Seriously. It's always the usual trolls adding more fuel to the fire. *major side eye*

But on a serious note, I do feel that Hikki seems to lack technique with her vocals as of late. I'm a huge Hikki fan, as loyal as they come but I do feel that homegirl could use more vocal training. Also, maybe her change in vocals has to deal with the fact that she used to drink alcohol regularly (which she admitted to) heck, she probably still does for all we know. Alcohol has a tendency to dry out the vocal cords and cause a change in sound. :yes

Agree to disagree and take my opinion with a grain of salt. ;)

isthisLOL? 21st April 2012 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ayu_ready? (Post 2855263)
definately. I hate their both techniques but their voices & vocal range are uncomparable, lol

Considering that their chestvoice ranges are almost identical and headvoice is usually not considered part of a singer's range since everyone can naturally reach a huge range with it I don't see how they are "uncomparable".

ayu_ready? 21st April 2012 07:49 PM

^ I do not read your posts about vocal, just because. sorry.

emi♡ 22nd April 2012 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by relmy (Post 2855056)
This may sound really bizarre, but Hikki's vocals sound significantly worse to me in English. I guess it's because I know what the words are meant to sound like, I can understand how they fit together and work to create the song, how the structures of the words work for the song... and how her voice just doesn't work at times.

Until I listened to her English work, I thought she was REALLY good (the typical opinion of her, basically), but then when I heard her in English I was just like...wow, she's kinda average, she just makes good songs and sounds interesting.

It's odd :/

her english stuff is just odd all around I think lol and then coupled with some of the weird lyrics she sings lol idk, it sure is unique though.

About her vocals...idk it always seemed like they weren't as important as like...the music. Sometimes I feel like she doesn't mind how gritty her vocals get because it can give a different effect...but I'm sure she does anyway...

Not Fade Away 23rd April 2012 02:24 AM

Whoever said 'Blue' was a hot mess during 'Wild Life' was right haha....I have to skip past that song every time.

I feel like Utada needs to get back into her R&B stuff because she can hit those notes.

When it comes to a lot of her Japanese songs, she goes higher than she can on some notes, and while she DOES get those notes out, it's obviously a struggle. A struggle in both studio form and live form.

As weird as a lot of her English-language songs are, she does a better job hitting those notes (ie: The verses in Exodus '04, Devil Inside, The verses in FYI, The verses in Taking My Money Back...etc...)

For some reason...she feels the need to go a few notes higher in the choruses of most of these songs...I don't know why.

In terms of technique, tone, quality...w/e on Ayu's part...I just find myself going "whaaat?"

As much as I love her, the last live that I thought was pretty solid from her vocal-wise was Rock N' Roll Circus, and even a lot of that was improved due to technology.

Despite Kuu going crazy with the vocal pyrotechnics at times, I think she probably knows her range the best out of anyone.

Zeke. 23rd April 2012 07:48 AM

R&B stuff is gross.

koumori 23rd April 2012 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 2855742)
R&B stuff is gross.

You're gross!

Idk, I like her R&B stuff too. And she does sing it better live~

relmy 23rd April 2012 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by emi♡ (Post 2855400)
her english stuff is just odd all around I think lol and then coupled with some of the weird lyrics she sings lol idk, it sure is unique though.

I like her English music more than her Japanese, even if I go wtf at it a lot. I really like the weirdness in it.

I can't get into a lot of her Japanese music. ):

Not Fade Away 23rd April 2012 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 2855742)
R&B stuff is gross.

lol maybe so, but at least she can sing her r&b stuff extremely well.

Automatic live is still nearly flawless (barring UU when her voice was going to hell - though it still sounded amazing) and it seems that she sings Automatic better with age.

A lot of her experimental stuff is when she struggles to get notes out. Passion, Stay Gold, This is Love, Keep Trying (though again that was probably the worst live in UU because of her vocal issues) being prime examples.

I still wouldn't call it vocal deterioration though. I just think she composes songs that are, often times, not in her range.

Dear heavens, I almost typed "Is this Love" instead of "This is Love" my JPop artists are overlapping too much with song titles. Maybe Utada's song is the response song to Ayu's.

amorphose 23rd April 2012 06:46 PM

Her cover of Lovin' You :heart


ayu_ready? 23rd April 2012 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Not Fade Away (Post 2855665)
Despite Kuu going crazy with the vocal pyrotechnics at times, I think she probably knows her range the best out of anyone.

I agree 100% :yes

CoriKaru 24th April 2012 07:07 AM

I'm sorry, but that's a flickted cropped picture right there in that Youtube Clip.

Cover was really good though. I actually expected her to go for the whistle notes. Aww. Maybe someday in a song.

Andrenekoi 24th April 2012 08:51 AM

Êrn... I don't think Hikaru ever hit a whistle note...

Zahara 24th April 2012 06:30 PM

Does anyone know what hikki's range is now? I know her voice deepened a few years ago, but I was alwys curious about her vocal range and type.

Andrenekoi 24th April 2012 06:43 PM

This blog has a post about her voice:
http://www.divadevotee.com/2011/10/u...ile-range.html

It's very short and I don't know how accurate it is, but it covers her range...

isthisLOL? 24th April 2012 06:57 PM

The range should be fine. Though it doesn't make a difference between chestvoice and headvoice. And the inclusion of the chestvoice G5 is weird since it's not really sang or pronounced out, she's just peaking there for a tiny part of a second. But overall the article seems right.

Zahara 24th April 2012 08:28 PM

Thanks guys!

Pieces_of_SEVEN 28th April 2012 04:37 AM

Listened to a few hikki songs today, include sakura drops and Show Me Love (Not A Dream), and man...at least she went out with a bang. SME (NAD) is just...epic.

CoriKaru 28th April 2012 05:01 AM

^I was so about to listen to "SAKURA Drops" today as I passed by it on my iPod. Haven't listened to it in ages. Went straight to Brown Eyed Girls instead. I shall be punished.


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