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As few people mentioned above she hasn't change her image drastically trying to be sexy, half naked slut etc. Koda Kumi lost a lot when she started to copy obscene behavior of popular western singers. Ayu did the same, because in the past she was seen as someone with class but later swap to wearing corsets and doing show with group of gay-acting dancers and clows touching her bum. Namie's image is always stylish.
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In Namie's defense though, Queen of Hip-Pop was one hell of a record. I think she did an amazing job of transitioning her sound rather than releasing GENIUS 2000 then coming out with something like PLAY the following year. Note about Koda: The sexual stuff was present on TAKE BACK. She just got more scandalous over time rather than more sexual. But let's be honest here, I think Koda is the only person who could pull off outfits like the one she wore for ECSTACY. So, in a way, I'm glad she got risqué enough to not make a video like ECSTACY seem jarring for fans. |
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are u the same user here who said Namie did "avant-garde pop music"? Namie has zero charisma and her "music" is clanky, sloppy, and gimmick-driven. I'm far from a Kuu stan, but I can totally understand why people like her and feel a strong connection to her. At least you get the sense that she stands for something. Namie doesn't stand for anything and really has no personality from what I can gather. But you're right, at least she is consistent in that respect. I rarely see Namie's work or career ever attract any sort of divisive discussion either, which in many ways makes her the perfect pop music puppet for mass consumption. |
"Avant-garde pop music"? LOL No, I haven't said that.
You're right about lack of charisma. I have to also say that during the concerts her singing is monotonous and boring. She's just singing properly but something is missing in it. |
I'm really surprised at how different opinions of humans can be. I'm posting it on this thread but it is like this in every other one. Seriously, it is amazing how diverse they are lol Some people tend to think their opinion is always the right one and the way they express it is sometimes rude, I don't really like that. It is funny though.
Why do I think namie's sales are good? I think a well managed image is 90%, the rest is good quality and up to date music that appeal to her public, including myself. |
Music has nothing to do with it ... Japaneses are all about image and appearance ! You can check every Japanese forum about music the main argument about Ayu is her age ! She is seen as an old thing and unlike Namie she was on TV non stop from 1998 to 2010 !! They were tired of seeing her head all year for so long ! In a society where a women above 30 years is seen as an old person it's really not surprising ...in addition to that she make a lot of bad choice in her life and unfortunately for her she fell in love with western men twice (sarcasm) XD.
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We should give props to her songwriters and producers. Without them she would be nothing. That and those who help decide her image behind closed doors.
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Ayu was never really considered as asexual as she is the west either... A lot of her "kawaii" stuff goes hard on japanese fetishism. |
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These truths... Namie just seems like the blandest, most boring, most generic, most uninvolved one out of these women. It's like a 30-something AKB48 member who got lucky. |
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It takes years to regain some of the popularity after scandals or anything controversial. People still talk about Kumi as the rude woman who made comments about amniotic fluids. |
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TK helps a lot of artists propel into stardom but it's up to the artist to remain relevant. Just because Namie doesn't write her music doesn't mean she worked really hard to get to where she is today. And even then, Namie has some say in what she wants to do with her career. She wouldn't sing a song named Put 'Em Up at first because she felt the Japanese lyrics didn't match the melody till the songwriter changed it; or something like that. Idk why people discredit Namie so much. It almost sounds like people are bitter she's doing better than their faves but idk. |
^I just find her to be boring and overly safe, even if I'm pretty aware this is a huge part of her appeal.
She started to get really interesting during the time she was about to have her 2nd peak, and somewhere between the Play Tour and Live Style 2011 she almost got me as a fan, and them she started being overly safe again and releasing generic music and feeling like a robot on the stage, and I gave up. |
See, I actually adore the STYLE album and all the cheesy Dallas Austin American R&B, as well as what she did as SUITE CHIC... also White Light, Girl Talk...
then all of a sudden her music just started to get very clanky and production-driven. and this is my problem with most popular music after, I'd say, 2005... you can have a "sick beat" (or what you think is a "sick beat," when it's just a random assortment of noise) but if there's no melody, you already lost me. |
I think she's boring too but she has some hot jams. She can definitely pick out good songs to sing.
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My Japanese teacher loves to talk about Namie, she said that Namie was always on top of mind of any Japanese women as a fashion icon and music legend. I guess that Jpanese just simple love their "blandest, most boring, most generic, most uninvolved" queen for being who she is. Reputation and success never comes from LUCKINESS, but in case you're always based on that, you must be frustrated. |
How is Namie overly safe?? she is the one who risk the most comparing with Ayu, Koda and Utada hands down.
Like for example, how is releasing an english album in Japan "overly safe"?? |
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I listen to Namie but there's no denying that most of it blends. I think for the most part, yes, she is lucky. Tie ups that work for her and tracks that are very radio friendly. |
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