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quantum_ayu 26th February 2005 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wAtSuPmE2
im also pretty sure u meant the dance part where she didnt duck down, does different moves or sometimes slower than the dancers on the back. But it is normal for the singer to do something different to show their uniqueness and stand out more. Though i think Ayu did well as we dont usually see her dance anyway.

I definitely agree!!!

extepan 26th February 2005 04:16 PM

real me is a good video, i cant see any mess ups!

kinix 26th February 2005 05:23 PM

She's a singer not a dancer =.="
I hope for more storyline rather than dances...
Leave the dance for the concert wouldnt that be better?
If u want to see dances in pv play boa's or namie's pv mute than play ayu's song >.<"
But I dun think she messed up in the dance. I think it's meant to be that way ^^

devilayu 26th February 2005 06:32 PM

It was only recently that Ayumi started trying to incorporate choreographed dancing into her PV's, and I have to agree with Phantoma that the routines are just bad. :P Plus, Ayumi isn't much of a dancer.

In any case, I'm sure whatever scenes they put into the "Real Me" PV were the best ones that they got.

norain 26th February 2005 08:26 PM

Ah...that's it...you explained it to me wAtSuPmE2 because she did go slower then the others and didn't duck down ^_^ yay...

quantum_ayu I never said I didn't appreciate it...That's prolly one of my favorite videos because its so awesome when she dances, I don't understand where people go with this when people ask a question...

"why didn't she do this?" *Someone else* Why can't you just appreciate it...

just an opinion...not taken seriously...don't bash me don't kill me...just saying I never said I can't appreciate the video because of that move -_-***

ANYWAY...I'll consider this post the end to my topic starter...although I can't lock posts ;_;

Catzi 27th February 2005 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kinix
She's a singer not a dancer =.="
I hope for more storyline rather than dances...
Leave the dance for the concert wouldnt that be better?
If u want to see dances in pv play boa's or namie's pv mute than play ayu's song >.<"
But I dun think she messed up in the dance. I think it's meant to be that way ^^

Agreed. :yes

norain 27th February 2005 03:36 AM

but...the real me pv was a story video, but included dancing ^_^

RubbishMui 27th February 2005 03:43 AM

i liked the dance..i thought it looked good :D

Aisha_Angel 27th February 2005 03:55 AM

The video was mostly just for the story, the dancing was just added in for that poppy-feel. But still, both things combined into one and created one of her best PV's in my opinion.

It looked like to me that Britney Spears stole a little bit of the dance sequence for the video "Boys: the co-ed remix". But then again, I could be wrong about that one...yet it looks so similar...anybody willing to investigate?

norain 27th February 2005 04:00 AM

if someoen would be willing to upload....

devilayu 27th February 2005 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Aisha_Angel
The video was mostly just for the story, the dancing was just added in for that poppy-feel. But still, both things combined into one and created one of her best PV's in my opinion.

It looked like to me that Britney Spears stole a little bit of the dance sequence for the video "Boys: the co-ed remix". But then again, I could be wrong about that one...yet it looks so similar...anybody willing to investigate?

Wait, that Ayumi's choreographer imitated Britney's dance?
(FYI, "Boys" came out way before "Real Me")
I didn't really see where the videos are similar, though (and I am a huge fan of Brit's vid)

Apprentice 27th February 2005 05:54 AM

u mean the times where she's just standing there?? nah i dont think thats a stuff up.. but i do reckon the dancing's weird

Catzi 27th February 2005 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by devilayu
Wait, that Ayumi's choreographer imitated Britney's dance?
(FYI, "Boys" came out way before "Real Me")
I didn't really see where the videos are similar, though (and I am a huge fan of Brit's vid)

But Aisha said "Boys: the Co-ed remix" so maybe it's different from "Boys?" (Boys is a very cool vid) But I never knew there was a Boys: the Co-ed remix vid. And there's not much dancing in "Boys" anyway.

Aisha_Angel 27th February 2005 04:47 PM

Boys: the Co-ed remix was the song-version used in the video. Perhaps there are 2 versions of it b/c this video was promoting an Austin Powers movie. I haven't seen the vid since it was last on TRL here but I know that the song version that played in the vid was the coed remix cuz it had Pharell in it and all that good-juicy stuff.

I don't really remember when Boys came out but at the end with the small dance sequence ~easily missable~ it looked a little like Real Me. Don't know which one came out first but if Brit's was first I'm sorry for being wrong. All I know is Ayu's came out in 2002 (according to her video thingy I have with me) and the dances just look similar to me.

(And if it is true that Brit took Ayu's dance; it will not be the first time she's gotten inspiration from J-pop stars/culture. She publically admitted she was inspired by the costumes from some concerts she saw in Japan which I think is pretty cool in a way.)

kinix 27th February 2005 04:54 PM

I dun think the dance are create by the singers so it's not britney's fault =.=" so I dun think u shouldnt say britney took ayu's...
and there we go again to XXX copy ayu's XXX .... arent u guys tired of these =.=?

Aisha_Angel 27th February 2005 05:39 PM

Dance sequences are created by choreographers but the artist who has to do it has a lot of influence on what the final version looks like. The bigger the star, the bigger the influence. (in some cases; probably not all)

I'm a little tired of the "XXX copy ayu's XXX" too; but it's important to notice these things like this. That way when you hear someone talking about it a few years (or days) down; you can tell them exactly where it came from. But if we ignore it; we'll find that those things will be lost to us in silly medicine commercials for Tylenol. It's not just Ayu's stuff; it's a lot of other peoples stuff as well and it happens everyday.

People put a lot of heart into their material so it's always sad to me as just a "wannabe performer" (lol) to see things like that happen.

devilayu 27th February 2005 08:30 PM

Ooook, apparently my use of just "Boys" has confused people. There is ONE version of the video, using the "Co-Ed Remix" featuring Pharrell. (Sorry for the confusion, everyone!)

Anyways, Britney's video came out before Ayumi's did, etc. etc. Interestingly, Ayumi's platinum blonde, crimped hairstyle originated after Britney did it.

I'm also kinda tired of the 'xxx copied xxx' stuff because it is flattering at the very least, you know? And it's not like Ayumi does everything by herself, like all big stars, she has a lot of help.

Qt Mashi 27th February 2005 10:03 PM

eventhough Ayu's isnt a very good at dancing i like the way she moves in her PV's, like in fly high, M, Evolution, Game etc

norain 28th February 2005 04:47 AM

Not very good at dancing? O_O She dances great, but she just doesn't incorporate her videos to not make since...Here's an example of a video that doesn't make since

BoA - Listen to my Heart = Dancing + Getting a hair cut = Listen to my heart

??? ook...

Qt Mashi 28th February 2005 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norain
Not very good at dancing? O_O She dances great, but she just doesn't incorporate her videos to not make since...Here's an example of a video that doesn't make since

BoA - Listen to my Heart = Dancing + Getting a hair cut = Listen to my heart

??? ook...

lol u mean make sense? :eyebrow


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