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elepop 6th August 2005 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by devilayu
Wow, how did this transform into the "Japanese music is better than American music" thread?

LOL. Exactly.

Anyway, I think there are a lot of meaninful, talented, unsexual american artists out there. It's just that the disgusting, overly sexed up, untalented, overrated american artists take over them and are more popular. 50 Cent? All he needs is a good douzen of hot chicks, bling and ghetto-themed video. Oh, and he's really popular. But yet, he has no talent.

emi♡ 6th August 2005 04:25 AM

Did anyone read that editorial at j-fan.com about J-pop? There's one that explains about some J-pop listeners, and how they only listen to J-pop because they are tired of the over-sexual and commercialized nature of music from their own country.

I think that most American Pop and Rap artists are forgetting that its about the music, and not them, and I think that some Americans who listen to J-pop fall into the category above about rebelling from music in their own country and they just love everything Japanese, all the music and everything and I think its wrong.

Music is Music and in any country your gonna have the same thing and some differences. I generally think that Japanese artists have a little more passion than americans for their music though, but that shouldnt suggest that ALL american music is crappy adn it also shouldn't suggest that all Japanese music is better. Its like when some people listen to one Ayu song, think her voice is annoying and automatically they dont like her.

Personally I like Japanese music in the same way I like American music, I like Beyonce, I don't like Brittany Spears...I like Ayu, I don't like Utada...yes I said it.

SunshineSlayer 6th August 2005 07:44 AM

I just want to throw in my 2 cents here. Of course not all American lyrics are devoid of meaning. But I believe the poster was referring to popular music, as in what you would see when you turn on MTV and very rarely, if ever now a days is there any song on MTV that is lyrically worth a damn. To help prove that I just flipped on MTV to see what kind of song was playing and of course in classic MTV style there wasn't even any music on. It was guys punching each other in the face for fun. :rolleyes

DA1SUK1DAY01691 9th August 2005 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by emikotogawa
Did anyone read that editorial at j-fan.com about J-pop? There's one that explains about some J-pop listeners, and how they only listen to J-pop because they are tired of the over-sexual and commercialized nature of music from their own country.

I think that most American Pop and Rap artists are forgetting that its about the music, and not them, and I think that some Americans who listen to J-pop fall into the category above about rebelling from music in their own country and they just love everything Japanese, all the music and everything and I think its wrong.

Music is Music and in any country your gonna have the same thing and some differences. I generally think that Japanese artists have a little more passion than americans for their music though, but that shouldnt suggest that ALL american music is crappy and it also shouldn't suggest that all Japanese music is better. Its like when some people listen to one Ayu song, think her voice is annoying and automatically they dont like her.

Personally I like Japanese music in the same way I like American music, I like Beyonce, I don't like Brittany Spears...I like Ayu, I don't like Utada...yes I said it.

true really true... I mean, you have people like 50 Cent (Candy Shop, for example) taking over the cleaner Beyonce... I really think the music that's dirty is more popular, because of the mass of teens that buy it, rather than someone cleaner, say Carrie Underwood for example...

THEN, you see all the adults that want to be cool, they find out what teens are listening to, and then buy the dirty music a majority of teens are listening to now... out of 10 of my friends, about 5-6 people listen to rap, and 4-5 listen to the "deeper" Alternative... so at least the alternate, which is becoming increasingly popular, is becoming a way to get a better message through...

kristen 9th August 2005 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Corybobory
I'm sure all languages have their trashy lyricals, including Japanese, and I want to defend that there are plenty of western artists with very legitimate lyrics that arent all about sex drugs and bling.

This is true, look at Hide's "Electric Cucumber" :laugh

SunshineSlayer 10th August 2005 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ayumihamasakisan005
true really true... I mean, you have people like 50 Cent (Candy Shop, for example) taking over the cleaner Beyonce... I really think the music that's dirty is more popular, because of the mass of teens that buy it, rather than someone cleaner, say Carrie Underwood for example...

THEN, you see all the adults that want to be cool, they find out what teens are listening to, and then buy the dirty music a majority of teens are listening to now... out of 10 of my friends, about 5-6 people listen to rap, and 4-5 listen to the "deeper" Alternative... so at least the alternate, which is becoming increasingly popular, is becoming a way to get a better message through...

But really most of the "alternative" bands these days aren't that good either. Most of the bands today come off as very corporatized posers and thus their lyrics sound completely hollow. I miss the good old days of rock, when the rock singers could actually sing too. :)

DA1SUK1DAY01691 10th August 2005 06:05 AM

well, must be only the songs my friend's bothered to introduce me to... but as a whole, they make more sense!

free_n_easy_cher 20th August 2005 12:27 AM

rofl okay kids i know this is like ten days late but i was just reading over this and feel the need to put my own two cents in.

though a majority of american music is in all honesty quite dirty and graphic and whatnot - you can't exactly apply that to the other `popular` artists who have made it big due to their music that isn't as horrible as the others.

classifying bands that aren't what they are ( like, evanescence being emo? ) doesn't exactly get your point across. Evanescence is not an emo band. If you knew anything about the band, you'd know that they are a mixture of a bunch of differen't types of music; gothic, pop, rock, classical.

`Hollaback girl` simply states what it does in the lyrics. Gwen talks about how she's gone through different situations where she's been used. I think she means she doesn't want to be that girl everyone goes to for a one night stand, maybe? The lyrics say it out perfectly, you don't really need to know street slang to get some of the songs.

Alternative music isn't the only clean kind of music out there. In fact, some alternative bands aren't even that clean to begin with. If you've only listened to like two bands classified as alternative, then you need to explore more in the music region for it. Besides, just because one or two songs sound dirty by a band, doesn't mean that all of their lyrics are.

I think this whole entire subject you took to the next level was pretty stereotypical, as some have said already. And now that I put my two cents in, I'm done.

*Petit* 20th August 2005 12:32 AM

It's kind of in the nature of the english language to be direct, compared to other languages like japanese and spanish. Like shakira (I think it was her) said, she though her lyrics sometimes became really weird in english, because spanish has a more subtle way of expressing things.

emi♡ 20th August 2005 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by *Petit*
It's kind of in the nature of the english language to be direct, compared to other languages like japanese and spanish. Like shakira (I think it was her) said, she though her lyrics sometimes became really weird in english, because spanish has a more subtle way of expressing things.

not only just the nature of the language, but also I think the nature of the people. For example, one day I was watching Oprah...yes...and she did a show on 30 year-old women around the world, and when asked what they thought about Americans, a great majority of them said that American women were very loud, talkative, and outgoing. I think that Americans in general are a very direct people who are used to having the freedom to say what they please when they please...bad thing or good thing? I'm not sure...


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