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kournikova 22nd July 2005 08:00 AM

yep im agree with all of those points of ALTERNA... the title itself means "alternate"

evechoco 22nd July 2005 08:37 AM

this pv really have a deep meaning abt it,although it's scary,weird, i can't wait to buy the cd/dvd version

~Amy~ 22nd July 2005 11:31 AM

And have you guys noticed the song combinations right now.
It like POp something fun and then ROCK and she shows her deep feelings see...

Inspire (popish rockish but kinda brith and happy)
GAME (dark and powerful deep)

STEP you (cute and fun)
is this LOVE (makes you wonder kinda song,a rock song that looks like it shows her deep feelings)

Fairyland (a really cute song)
Alterna (EXTREMELY deep dark and powerful)

Isn't that kinda... freaky?

Teh Rii-Sama 22nd July 2005 01:42 PM

. . .Yeah, it is. o_O Haven't noticed that.

I wonder how long that pattern'll continue. . .

AyuGAME 22nd July 2005 02:43 PM

hmm..you can see from the other thread that called "thoughts of alterna PV"

~Amy~ 22nd July 2005 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teh Rii-Sama
. . .Yeah, it is. o_O Haven't noticed that.

I wonder how long that pattern'll continue. . .


Yeah! like O_o freaky... lol

Rickumi 22nd July 2005 04:43 PM

I am impressed!
Just loved the PV..... and...in some poor words...... its showing how a human can be manipulated.....not just the artist,but the whole world are like machinesready todeal with the same problems,same fears....

lolo66 23rd July 2005 02:28 AM

no idea, just boring

BanFan 24th July 2005 04:41 PM

It's quite strange if you compare Ayu's new PV 'alterna' with Ami Suzuki's new PV 'Negaigoto'. Ayu's is about be exploited by her company and hounded by the media, while Ami's is about being popular, then thrown out, then coming back in the spotlight better than ever. It's strange to compare these two as Ayu and Ami are supposedly rivals, though I don't really believe they are.

Both PVs also have naked dolls/mannequins (sp). XD

stardusties 24th July 2005 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Amy~
And have you guys noticed the song combinations right now.
It like POp something fun and then ROCK and she shows her deep feelings see...

Inspire (popish rockish but kinda brith and happy)
GAME (dark and powerful deep)

STEP you (cute and fun)
is this LOVE (makes you wonder kinda song,a rock song that looks like it shows her deep feelings)

Fairyland (a really cute song)
Alterna (EXTREMELY deep dark and powerful)

Isn't that kinda... freaky?


e.e...amaghadwsh, same with BoY and Abouut You, ne? ><; -scared-

~Amy~ 24th July 2005 04:57 PM

I know right?! *hides under bed*
What is hamasaki up to? ><

elepop 24th July 2005 06:23 PM

Ehh... "fairyland" isn't a cute song AT ALL. Have you read the lyrics?

It's actually quite sad. Notice how the verses are darker? Verses' lyrics are deeper, darker. As for the chorus, it's more cheerful, happier.

"Meaning of becoming an adult
I still don't understand it
now,maybe it is that girl or that boy
thay are aiming toward something

step by step

now, the dawn become quick
Smell of the wind is changed
it is nostalgic but i can't see that
heat beat is becoming faster

it is lovely and painful

the road to that sea
go there with innocent
in that far away summer

even now, the child us is still in my heart
we don't need to know all future

what am i seeking right now ?
i find that but lost it again, repeatly
the similing face told me one thing
now, i am in the place where nearest to eternity"

SunshineSlayer 24th July 2005 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Amy~
And have you guys noticed the song combinations right now.
It like POp something fun and then ROCK and she shows her deep feelings see...

Inspire (popish rockish but kinda brith and happy)
GAME (dark and powerful deep)

STEP you (cute and fun)
is this LOVE (makes you wonder kinda song,a rock song that looks like it shows her deep feelings)

Fairyland (a really cute song)
Alterna (EXTREMELY deep dark and powerful)

Isn't that kinda... freaky?

I'm starting to think that it is some compromise she struck with Avex. The first song is the more Avex friendly one - the cuter more poppy and sellable one. Whereas the second track is deeper, darker, and more what Ayu wants.

~Amy~ 24th July 2005 11:23 PM

Hmmm okay... O_o

PickleCookies 24th July 2005 11:29 PM

I think Ayu made this PV to mock all of the fans that think she's going to get dropped by Avex.

elepop 24th July 2005 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PickleCookies
I think Ayu made this PV to mock all of the fans that think she's going to get dropped by Avex.

Right... :rolleyes

Happii 5th August 2005 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Amy~
And have you guys noticed the song combinations right now.
It like POp something fun and then ROCK and she shows her deep feelings see...

Inspire (popish rockish but kinda brith and happy)
GAME (dark and powerful deep)

STEP you (cute and fun)
is this LOVE (makes you wonder kinda song,a rock song that looks like it shows her deep feelings)

Fairyland (a really cute song)
Alterna (EXTREMELY deep dark and powerful)

Isn't that kinda... freaky?

Definitely what I thought! I always like the darker ones.
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~angel*ayumi~
Seems like a mix og Dearest + ourselves...
But the PV reminds me on Madonna´s "Bedtime Story" PV (a friend send it to me^^), especially the eyball in her mouth.

Yes! The PV reminded me awfully of Madonna.

It's my fav Ayu PV now and it's obvious that it's very symbollic. Why does the little boy trying to look under the girl's skirt? I couldn't figure out that one's meaning. BTW does anone know where I can get the translation?

zeroshin888 7th August 2005 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CloseToAyu
quote from asongforxx @ T-N:

Ayumi released her new PV yesterday (or was it today?). It's called "alterna". The PV is sick, freaky, shocking, crazy, disturbing, weird, different, scary but mostly, it's deeply symbolic. Basically, it's about Ayu herself. Being discovered, becoming a big star, soon becoming a "singing machine". She's being controlled and manipulated by the industry. Then being dumped by her record company. In real life, her record company, Avex Trax, wants to get rid of Ayu and even fire her. Rumors say that most of the people that works there hate Ayu. They even tried to replace Ayu with Ami Suzuki, BoA and even Ai Otsuka. In conclusion, Ayu is big. Really big. So big, not even her own record company can get rid of her. After all, she IS the j-pop queen, since forever.

This PV truly shows Ayu feelings about this whole record company problem. The PV is really amazing. The whole concept is like a play. It has that carnivale feeling. You might even get scared just watching the PV. Yes. Scary clowns (representing the media, record company and such). Eyeball in Ayu's mouth. It's scary. But it shows another side of Ayu. Her darkess side. If you thought "ourselves" was too much, you'll be impressed by "alterna". It's a deep and powerful PV. With a BIG message. People often know Ayu as this super cutesy j-pop kogal. If you are used to this image, you'll be shocked. Really shocked.


Is that true? how Avex wants to get rid of Ayu and people who work there hate her? But why would Avex want to get rid of ayu in the first place? Can ayu possibly be able to be replaced? because it would just make no sense.
*confused*

Kitomi 15th August 2005 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeroshin888
Is that true? how Avex wants to get rid of Ayu and people who work there hate her? But why would Avex want to get rid of ayu in the first place? Can ayu possibly be able to be replaced? because it would just make no sense.
*confused*

I don't understand it either. o_O Why would Avex want to get rid of her? She makes 'em tons of money...That's just not like a normal company. :P

Ayumi no Yume 16th August 2005 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Amy~
And have you guys noticed the song combinations right now.
It like POp something fun and then ROCK and she shows her deep feelings see...

Inspire (popish rockish but kinda brith and happy)
GAME (dark and powerful deep)

STEP you (cute and fun)
is this LOVE (makes you wonder kinda song,a rock song that looks like it shows her deep feelings)

Fairyland (a really cute song)
Alterna (EXTREMELY deep dark and powerful)

Isn't that kinda... freaky?

hmm...i barely used to noticce that. Now i can see it clearly. Thank you.


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