Originally Posted by Eu-Kun (Post 896713)

^ oh forgot that... well atleast its the highest original album by a solo female artist so far XD

and wow this is the first time ayumi beats utada in terms of album sales lol

Originally Posted by immel (Post 896693)

Seems like Ayu will only release two singles on this years Oricon chart, or is B&D counted as a 2006 single?

Originally Posted by immel (Post 896939)

The phenomenon KAT-TUN isn't hard to explain.

6 incredibly talented and deliciously hot young men ... sick amounts of promotion ... boom bada boom boom bam!

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929 (Post 897092)

Plus it was their debut album + single. JE debuts CD sales are quite big, then they just drop with their 2nd, 3rd, 4th release.. (i.e.: Arashi, NEWS)

Originally Posted by immel (Post 897194)

And kinda the whole thing with KAT-TUN is that they have debut over and over... lol.

New members, if I'm not wrong.

Originally Posted by Kingofpop (Post 897518)

I doubt Koda will ever be considered queen as she will never outsell Ayu's total record sales of 46 000 000 records so far.

Originally Posted by Kingofpop (Post 897525)

Ayu's popularity is slowly rising again anyway

Bold & Delicious/Pride: 132,993
Startin' / Born To Be...: 188,551
BLUE BIRD: 258,566 (Still charting)
Jewel/1love: well i'm sure it will outsell BLUE BIRD

Originally Posted by Kingofpop (Post 897525)

Her albums sell well but her singles sell poorly (mostly less than 100 000).
This means she has no staying power.

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929 (Post 897819)

Uhmmm, no because being Queen just doesn't mean you sell the most. Ayu's released a lot + she released during the peak era of CD sales. Namie is definietely considered a Queen of J-pop yet her CD sales are about 60% of Ayu's. Matsutoya Yuming, Seiko Matsuda (etc.) don't match Ayu's ~45m yet their still J-pop Queens.

Anyways, my point is that there really isn't only 1 single "J-pop Queen"; there's a bunch of them representing their own time periods/eras.


Well obviously it would rise, it would've been hard to sell lower than Bold & Delicious/Pride since it was released 6 weeks before the album. As for BLUE BIRD, you could say her popularity is going up with it, but another reason could be that the songs were just a lot better (to the Japanese public) than the Startin' single was and also there were 3 covers instead of the regular 2. Btw, it's not charting anymore, it dropped out of the TOP 200 ~2 weeks ago.


After 'secret', she's had 8 non limited singles of which 7 made it past 100k. And I don't see how not selling singles = no staying power. How about Otsuka Ai? Her singles don't sell that much either, and her albums do pretty well yet she's staying strong for at least 2.5 years.

Originally Posted by Kingofpop (Post 898279)

I agree with otsuka when she called her Vulgar and disgusting.

Originally Posted by Kingofpop (Post 898279)

I would make a comeback to all of this, but it is just to long and I can't be bothered. The point is, Ayu's career will continue forward and so will otsuka's most likely, but Koda will start to slip in the second half of 2007 unless she can do something miraculous, everyone is already getting sick of how she uses sex to sell records. I can't even believe anyone even finds her beautiful, I agree with otsuka when she called her Vulgar and disgusting.

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929 (Post 898402)

I think I shouldn't be bothered to make a comeback as you actually believe Otsuka Ai called Koda Kumi "Vulgur and dusgusting".

Anyways, do you have sufficient proof that "everyone is already getting sick of how she uses sex to sell records."? The last time I checked, Yume no Uta/Futari de... had very little sex appeal in the PVs and in the covers.

And how about "The point is...Koda will start to slip in the second half of 2007..."? Please, you're making yourself sound like you can actually tell the future.

About the "I can't even believe anyone even finds her beautiful..." part, each person has a different perception of what "beauty" is.