Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai - Akanishi Jin leaving KAT-TUN

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- - Akanishi Jin leaving KAT-TUN (http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50263)

Haha..

that's right, I wouldn't be suprised if that actually happened. YamaPi is like everywhere.

Maybe you should teach him english? ^^

thats cool he wants to further his knowledge..too bad he is leaving though

yeah, i'm pretty upset with news. :\ even though i'm a Kame fanatic, Jin was one of the first Johnny's i was exposed to.

all we can do is wait (...i hate waiting. i've been waiting for Hiroki Uchi of NEWS/KANJANI8 to come back for a year and a half now). i wonder how this will effect upcoming KAT-TUN events and their popularity. from what i've read, their single's been pushed back to December.

gah. i swear, lucy. when i saw the thread title, i almost died right there. before reading that he was going on hiatus and not leaving for real, i mean.. really, i love jin.

i mean.. i had tears running down my face and hoping he's not gone forever. i didnt even want to click the thread for some reason.. well.. at least he's leaving for a while so that he can study, which is a good thing.

okay, ill just shut up now. blah.

I wonder if this is just a cover up for something larger within JE...

grrr. I can't stand this!
Two of my respected idols announced "to be on hiatus" in the same month.
Yukari Goto from AAA and now Jin...-_-''.

According to Santos's blog, there's also rumour about him and Berryz Kibou's Chinami going out...

http://santoslove.exblog.jp/tags/lolicon/#5856294

there will be a lot of fans that will get dissapointed with this decision

Arguments with Kame? Aren't they supposed to be super closed?

Awww. I feel sad for you Lucy! I know how much you love him!

The situation is sort of like DBSK no? I heard Changmin left for a while because he wanted to study in college... or something like that.

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Originally Posted by AyuGAME (Post 906627)

there will be a lot of fans that will get dissapointed with this decision

Obviously :P.

I think this "studying abroad" thing is a lame excuse. It's weird all those Kamenashi Kazuya and Akanishi Jin fighting rumours, then their manager quit and now Jin. I think it's some intern problem or something.

get rid of him? when he's one of the most popular???? does that seem a little mad?

i'm hoping it's he want to leave....getting sack is sooo NOT good

I'm pretty sure that the "get-rid-of-him"-part of the whole thing is just a rumor, tabloid crap or whatever.

If he's leaving he probably has very valid reasons and I'm 100% sure Johnnys are reluctant on letting him go, he's a big money magnet.

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Originally Posted by Princess_Of_Roses (Post 906040)

Maybe you should teach him english? ^^

thats cool he wants to further his knowledge..too bad he is leaving though

Gosh, I'd love to of course ^^

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Originally Posted by Hazuki

I am still dead, honey. We just have to wait and keep loving him because he'll come back one day! Well.. he has to.. please.

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Originally Posted by ayu_fan929

I wonder if this is just a cover up for something larger within JE...

That's what I thought at first too.. but I'm not sure atm.

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Originally Posted by asongforxx

They used to be very close.. but now it's definitely not what it used to be.
Yeah.. I am sad that I won't hear about him for a while.. but.. I think he can be happier like this - to have some private life, to learn, to go out without being screamed at..

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Originally Posted by LacusClyne

get rid of him? when he's one of the most popular???? does that seem a little mad?

i'm hoping it's he want to leave....getting sack is sooo NOT good

It definitely is weird. No one knows why Jin didn't have any activity lately. The company is reliable for his work and he was totally jobless! The question is if he didn't want any work and he just really wished to study (that seems weird) or if the company doesn't like him = no job. In Jin's case there is a problem that as he says - he just does what he wants and JE really hates this kind of behaviour. He also tends to say what he thinks.. so only a stupid argument with Johny could cause some problems..

OK, so my friend, who lives in Japan for 4 years, explained me a social phenomenon in Japan called "honne" and "tatamae".

Let me quote Wikipedia on that

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Hon'ne (本音) refers to a person's true feelings and desires. These may be contrary to what is expected by society or what is required according to one's position and circumstances, and they are often kept hidden, except with one's closest friends. One famous proverb goes: a man has three hearts—the one in his mouth he shows to the world; the one in his throat he shows to his friends; the one in his chest he keeps only to himself.

Tatemae (建前), literally "façade," is the behaviour and opinions one displays in public. Tatemae is what is expected by society and required according to one's position and circumstances, and these may not match one's honne.

What does that mean? Japanese are ALWAYS using tatemae. My friend told me that japanese people know exactly when it is tatemae but it's very hard for a gaijin to know it for sure and even after 5 years living in Japan, she sometimes isn't sure if it's tatemae. One she asked her japanese colleague how was the college-work she was doing and the colleague told she was still at the start and she wasn't sure of theme of her paper yet. When she told that to her good japanese friend, her friend said "duh! That's obviously tatemae. The girl is probably working on the paper for months and is already at the end".

Sometimes isn't sure if some things are tatemae and she has to ask to her japanese friend but she said it was OBVIOUS the Akanishi Jin excuse (studying abroad) and the Yukari excuse (health problems) are just tatemae and she said those cases are like when some MoMosu member went on "hiatus" to study fashion and the truth was that she actually was three-month pregnant.

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Originally Posted by andre2907 (Post 909076)

OK, so my friend, who lives in Japan for 4 years, explained me a social phenomenon in Japan called "honne" and "tatamae".

Let me quote Wikipedia on that

What does that mean? Japanese are ALWAYS using tatemae. My friend told me that japanese people know exactly when it is tatemae but it's very hard for a gaijin to know it for sure and even after 5 years living in Japan, she sometimes isn't sure if it's tatemae. One she asked her japanese colleague how was the college-work she was doing and the colleague told she was still at the start and she wasn't sure of theme of her paper yet. When she told that to her good japanese friend, her friend said "duh! That's obviously tatemae. The girl is probably working on the paper for months and is already at the end".

Sometimes isn't sure if some things are tatemae and she has to ask to her japanese friend but she said it was OBVIOUS the Akanishi Jin excuse (studying abroad) and the Yukari excuse (health problems) are just tatemae and she said those cases are like when some MoMosu member went on "hiatus" to study fashion and the truth was that she actually was three-month pregnant.

it's not really a Japanese-only phenomenon, it's an Asian habit. Modesty and politeness, if only on the surface.

After all, it's not an Asian practice hanging out dirty linen to dry in public.

But I really do hope he has a way back into the business, though if he goes on to succeed in other areas in future that wouldn't be too bad either.

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Originally Posted by gakkun (Post 909722)

it's not really a Japanese-only phenomenon, it's an Asian habit. Modesty and politeness, if only on the surface.

It's more of a korean and japanese tradition. Chinese people aren't like that, for example.

Some news..

JE announced that Jin will return propably after half a year.
But Jin himself said (press conference) that he doesn't know if he will return! "It depends what will happen."

You can download the translated press conference here. (He looks very hot there. ^^)

It might be a publicity stunt?

But he's probably going :/.

I can't blame the guy if it's not his dream to be a member of JE forever. Sure it's sad to see KAT-TUN reduced to KT-TUN, but having to follow JE's rules and traveling and working with the same guys day after day while really wanting to study abroad. I think he's being sincere about his reasons for leaving; I don't think it's a stunt. "I am punch" video, anyone?

Maybe he'll come back, maybe not, but I say, "Good luck, Jin!" :)