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Unimatrix Prime™ 30th July 2003 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by ImpactBreaker
Ayu's doing her good job like she always did. She didn't change much. Ayu is not responsible for her remixes....avex is though. So the one to blame is......:laugh
I didn't say she was doing a bad job... it's just that charging $10 or so for only 3 actual songs (and 1 instrumental) isn't like the days of getting 10 songs for a bit more. I know Avex controls such things as tracks and such, yet it just seems kinda messed up to me that Ayu used to release all those songs before, and nowadays, this is accepted, regardless of which songs are on it. I'm not saying she's releasing bad songs, but if I only had enough money to buy 1 CD now, picking a 4-track CD isn't my idea of a wise choice if I were going on a trip. Then again, it's all in the "eye of the beholder", and I'm sure others would probably pay $10 if Ayu only made a 2-track CD... lol...

KawaiiAyu 30th July 2003 10:11 PM

I think its AWESOME!!!! Sooooo pretty... ~sob~ I like to draw fairies too hehehe. I wuv fairies. They be purdiful. ^____^ I think it shows Ayu's kinda playful and childish side. Like when you're a little girl and pretend to be a fairy and stuff.. hehehe.

boogieordie 30th July 2003 10:25 PM

Jose, it's not Ayu. Ayu isn't in charge of the remix songs. Avex wanted to move a lot of financial dependance AWAY from Ayu, because it wasn't in the best interest in the company to have so much money invested in one artist. Basically, if Ayu decided to quit, Avex would be screwed. So instead of paying for people to remix her songs for singles, which is expensive, they knew the singles would sell regardless, because Ayu has a large following.
Which is why other artists have remixes and Ayu doesn't. Why pay for more if it's realy not going to change the sale of the single that much? On the other hand, less popular artists, like Day After Tomorrow, have remixes because that IS going to affect sales.

I don't see what the problem is, you don't buy Ayu CDs. :P JP!

Ashley

eldarion 30th July 2003 10:42 PM

WOW...SUGO~OI...can´t wait for it arrive home..I´ve already pre-ordered from cdjapan.co.jp

Takke 30th July 2003 10:47 PM

woooooooooooooooooahh so coool cover!!!

Unimatrix Prime™ 30th July 2003 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by AyuRocks
Jose, it's not Ayu. Ayu isn't in charge of the remix songs. Avex wanted to move a lot of financial dependance AWAY from Ayu, because it wasn't in the best interest in the company to have so much money invested in one artist. Basically, if Ayu decided to quit, Avex would be screwed. So instead of paying for people to remix her songs for singles, which is expensive, they knew the singles would sell regardless, because Ayu has a large following.

What I said earlier:

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I know Avex controls such things as tracks and such, yet it just seems kinda messed up to me that Ayu used to release all those songs before, and nowadays, this is accepted, regardless of which songs are on it.
I know about Avex controlling things, not Ayu... hehe... :trout

I've also said before about the issue with Avex not wanting much dependence on Ayu, but it's just that... well, I think everyone knows I'm a remix fan... it's just that I got into Ayu's music after hearing a remix, and now that her songs include few mixes, I guess I'm one of the few here bugged by that... :cry

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I don't see what the problem is, you don't buy Ayu CDs. :P JP!
:roflmao :roflmao :roflmao

boogieordie 30th July 2003 11:15 PM

You said Avex.. but then you say
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kinda messed up to me that Ayu used to release all those songs before, and nowadays, this is accepted
So that's why I said Ayu again. hehehe :)

Ashley

Unimatrix Prime™ 30th July 2003 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by AyuRocks
You said Avex.. but then you say

So that's why I said Ayu again. hehehe :)

Ashley

Ok... I see now... lol :msupr :msupr :msupr

hightea_xx 30th July 2003 11:27 PM

I think 4 Songs is goooood, considering most of the other J-pop artist's singles have 4 songs, or even LESS. Some only have the normal and instrumental, only TWO tracks!! I think this is pretty gooood, especially because they are NEW songs getting remixed!! I want this really bad, i hope my friend preorders for me!!! I think the cover is soooooo pretty!!

miruku 30th July 2003 11:46 PM

awsome cover... but i thought "forgiveness" would have a more gentle, soft natural cover.. something along the lines like Endless Sorrow

But this cover is cool, very Fairy like, but ayu looks kinda evil since she's not smiling loh :P

PURIN 30th July 2003 11:56 PM

i dont like this cover at all
it looks so cheesy!

and the concept is very similar to utada hikaru's cover for
sakura droppusu!

usualyl ayu's covers have been sooo gorgeus..
free & easy, [H], voyage, [&]
=(

shake_shake_pig 31st July 2003 12:18 AM

well
 
well...I like the cover...it's pretty and very colorful...
compare to UH's sakura drop, I don't really like that cover because it looks quite different from the video itself.
I think this cover is nice, different from any other covers Ayu has so far...
let's just hope the sale would go great

Chireresu 31st July 2003 12:23 AM

It's...different...I can't wait to hear the songs though!

boogieordie 31st July 2003 12:24 AM

http://i3.yesasia.com/assets/imgs/mu...1001829183.jpg

I don't see the similarity at all. :shrug

Ashley

appears 31st July 2003 12:42 AM

are people taking that to be the official tracklist? if so, im really looking forward to the H/\L remix of [HANABI~episode II~]..
it got compared to [Daybreak] a lot, and apart from the chorus part, i really like the remix H/\L did of [Daybreak], so i hope that gets repeated with [H~epII~]...

the font to [forgiveness] is ****, it looks lame.. i was really surprised about the cover tho... i thought it would be mellow and calm, suiting a theme of forgiveness...
instead, its a surreal setting, ayus expression looks more like shes about to execute revenge on someone rather than forgive them imo... :P

chikyuu13 31st July 2003 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by PURIN
i dont like this cover at all
it looks so cheesy!

and the concept is very similar to utada hikaru's cover for
sakura droppusu!

usualyl ayu's covers have been sooo gorgeus..
free & easy, [H], voyage, [&]
=(

I agree it looks like a wannabe sakura droppusu. I kinda don't care for it but whatever. I think it should have been more a sad cover or something like "A BEST" cover, the crying black and white one. All I can say is the music video better not have anything to do with the cover....usually doesn't but LET'S HOPE NOT!

ChineseWarrior 31st July 2003 12:58 AM

wow!!! she so pretty hehe thanks!

jerms 31st July 2003 12:59 AM

uhh there is no music video...

Chireresu 31st July 2003 01:02 AM

He knows that, he is just saying that when the PV is released that it has nothing to do with the cover.

boogieordie 31st July 2003 01:05 AM

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I agree it looks like a wannabe sakura droppusu.
What is it that makes the forgiveness cover similar to this - http://i3.yesasia.com/assets/imgs/mu...1001829183.jpg?

I'm interested to hear the H/\L's mix of Hanabi ~episode II~ as well, appears :)

Ashley


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