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TITANIC 23rd May 2009 06:25 PM

American music more creative and have much color

ayuayu798 23rd May 2009 07:11 PM

Asian music all the way! They have better lyrics!!! I like westren PVs more though, I think the have more of a story to them, than asain Pvs

TofuBunny 23rd May 2009 07:31 PM

Asian music .. they're more about the music than the looks (at least at Japan) .. and I've noticed that they're more creative in term of lyrics
western music used to be good before .. but these days, I find that female artists are more like strippers *cough*britneyandthepussycatdolls*cough* than recording artists
and what makes a song successful now is how catchy it is .. and how dirty it is (I swear, my friend whos an American R&B fanatic told that when she sees a song with the word dirty in it, she downloads it without any doubt)
Western music has sank sooo low now that I feel stupid by listening to it

Current Rock bands ftw though :)

xLuna&1LOVE 23rd May 2009 08:22 PM

Where's the bothoption?

Hmmm, Western then...

Bellmer's Doll 24th May 2009 03:01 AM

I picked Asia. Both countries have produced great music but Western music has a monotonous sound nowadays. Asian music seems to be heading in the same direction but there is still some variety.

mcluva420 24th May 2009 05:16 AM

western music is tha or-i-gi-nal~

extepan 24th May 2009 06:11 AM

Western music (American, European...)

PoetGirl 25th May 2009 03:33 AM

ummm, i love both. i think people here are talking about mainstream music. i dont care much for western mainstream. they are all so cheap. so if we'll talk about mainstream asian is better. if we talk about music in general im goin with both.

AyuRox 25th May 2009 04:04 AM

Asian music. Its mostly cuz of how sucky American music is.

Every American song now is R&B pop or alternative, and they all sound similar (within each genre). Not exactly the same, but similar. And the lyrical content is crap. Its all about the same few topics, and none of it has any real meaning. I listen to American music, and I'm like "ugh, gag me with a spoon". American 70s and 80s music was good, but from there, its really gone downhill.

I like some European music, but even then, all Hands-Up and Electro songs at least follow the same formula, even if the music itself is different.

Asian music is more diverse in its genres, at least. And at least with Ayu, the lyrics have some meaning.

happiholic★ 25th May 2009 04:17 AM

I dunno what to choose. I love both, but I find that I really like more 'Western-sounding' Asian artists, or even Western songs remixed in Japan. So, I guess Western?

ayumixfan 25th May 2009 08:27 AM

I'm surprised asian music is winning. I like both, but asian music is realy undiverse, at least the mainstream of it anyways. It seems like there's only like 3 different categories of music in asian music. Its always like ballad, bubble gum pop, and the occasional like rock band or hiphop. There's really not that much more. And on top of that the songs aren't really different. I find a lot of singers to be generic. There's like once in awhile a singer that really stands out for me like Utada hikaru and Ai Otsuka, but overall most singers sound the same. Like I find all the JE bands really similar even if their music is in different genres. THey all share this sound that makes me think JE right away XD. Even like Breakerz still reminds me of JE, but thats just my opinion. I find that asian music doesn't change that much over time.. its prettty consistent. Like its like evolution LOL omg XD it has really small changes which changes little by little until sooner or later they add up to a big change haha.

Western music may have a lot of similar artists, but at least there are at least more genres. I mean there's pop,dance, RnB, hiphop, Rap, rock, and country which are all REALLY mainstream. Altho in each genre a lot of singers are similar at least there are still more genres for me to listen to than in asian music. But even within the similar artists, there are so many artists that each like cluster or similar artists have a uniqueness to them. Like Britney,christina, madonna, and Lady Gaga are all under pop, but I find that all three of them are really different musically. And like Chris Brown and Usher are said to be really similar, but I find their music to be different than lets say Ne-yo. I dunno its just my opinion haha.

lovelism 25th May 2009 08:59 AM

asian

njanjayrp 25th May 2009 09:06 AM

Asian. The Western Music simply sucks.

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Originally Posted by ayumixfan
I'm surprised asian music is winning. I like both, but asian music is realy undiverse, at least the mainstream of it anyways.

Where did you just get that? I listen to JPOP because it is diverse. Hitomi Shimatani for one has a very colorful discography with many of different genres covered. I am pretty sure that even for mainstream artists like YUI, Koda Kumi, Namie Amuro, NEWS, UVERworld you can't say are similar in any way :). While in the States it's quite obvious that epop, RnB, Hip Hop and Alternative rock bands are ruling atm, the Japanese market has a variety of genres selling and being popular at the same time. For example take some of the notable releases from the last year: Perfume was electropop, Namie released her RnB/Dance 3A single, arashi's crossover "truth" sold like crazy, Ayu released an explosive rock single Mirrorcle World etc. Even if the JE music is mostly similar (cuz they could all be singing each others songs with no prob.) you can't say that the whole Japanese market is not diverse.

ayumixfan 25th May 2009 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 1955671)
Asian. The Western Music simply sucks.



Where did you just get that? I listen to JPOP because it is diverse. Hitomi Shimatani for one has a very colorful discography with many of different genres covered. I am pretty sure that even for mainstream artists like YUI, Koda Kumi, Namie Amuro, NEWS, UVERworld you can't say are similar in any way :). While in the States it's quite obvious that epop, RnB, Hip Hop and Alternative rock bands are ruling atm, the Japanese market has a variety of genres selling and being popular at the same time. For example take some of the notable releases from the last year: Perfume was electropop, Namie released her RnB/Dance 3A single, arashi's crossover "truth" sold like crazy, Ayu released an explosive rock single Mirrorcle World etc. Even if the JE music is mostly similar (cuz they could all be singing each others songs with no prob.) you can't say that the whole Japanese market is not diverse.

Okay it was just an opinion, sorry I didn't put In my opnion but I think I stated later on this was more of my opnion than anything :S. And like I feel the japanese msuic industry isn't diverse at all. With the exception of a few artists it is pretty much uniformed to me, at least mainstream. i don't count non mainstream music because then every country would be diverse :S. A few groups might be popular for RnB and hiphop but overall its not really a mainstream genre =/ Same for epop. YUI is probably one of THE most generic artists in the jpop scene in my opinion. I don't really find her unique at all :S. I think this is just a matter of opinion haha. I really find asian music not that creative at all. I mean seriously I can break the Jmusic scenedown to pop and rock... like there are a few artists in between and such but the majority are usually in these two categories or a mix of it. OH I forgot enka too... I really find it... uniformed... lol. Same for the k-music industry. I mean thats just my opinion. Sure u listed a bunch of artists that are in different genres, but I think I could do the same with the US lol. And for artists like ayu, who jsut experiment in rock and epop, I just personalyl categorize them under pop because they're generally a pop artist. I find that most of the songs taht chart on the top of the yearkly ranks or pop or rock songs, or poprock. Like I said I find the few exceptions, but that doesn't really mean the style is that mainstream there.

I mean I find that at least the US has more than just 2 genres with multiple popular artists. And I think european music is very experimental. its just my opinion, sorry if I didn't make it clear. I wouldn't state anything i say as facts because I'm not going to research about this lol. i'm just surprised asian music is winning because I didn't think it was diverse.

njanjayrp 25th May 2009 11:05 AM

^ while I agree that kpop and cpop are completely generic, I really disagree when it comes to jpop, as I started listening to Japanese music because I thought the "western" music was boring and lacked creativity :) YUI might be generic, but when you hear a YUI song you will know it's hers. But then again if you're only into mainstream it can't be helped :) It just happens that the majority of the genres that the western artists do are the ones I like the least. I guess neither of us can prove the other one right or wrong on this one. I am not surprised the Asian music is winning after all it makes sense that the majority of people coming here like Asian music else they wouldn't be here and if nothing JPOP owns everything else in my opinion, I mean whenever the MTV is on, all the songs sound the same to me with random rappers singing about cars, girls and money or girls singing about their hot bodies. Now I know not all the western music is like that ^^ just that the majority of the mainstream stuff is.

The_Swede 25th May 2009 12:46 PM

That is a very hard question, because I was listening to Asian music for like 3 years because I got sick of Western music, but the last two years I have "opened" up for other music too.

Now I don't care what country the music is from, if I like it I listen to it. But I have to say that I looove bands and artists who experiment with music. I have got a little tired of mainstream music XD

And I love Swedish music (nothing mainstream Swedish cuz it sucks!) and other European music and so.. and I love Asian...

I want a both button :P

*Petit* 27th May 2009 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolution7931 (Post 1952916)

Westerners invented modern music, end of story

I agree with this. And historically pop music in the west has been more inventive.

RIght now I'm not so sure anymore tbh, at last if we count mainstream music.

Corybobory 27th May 2009 04:40 PM

This question is like asking 'who do you think is more creative- Westerners or Asians?' (which esentially it is, wince Westerners generally make western music and Asians make Asian music....)

Which is why I think this question is kind of ridiculous. Creativity has to do with the individual, and once you analyze it in a group of that size it's incomparable.

Maemi 27th May 2009 06:40 PM

^Exactly. Some people can't decide, and others can. Some listen to only asian, or both or only western. If you can't decide, don't vote; this poll is for people who actually can choose between asian and western music. Music is music. But they can be so different and make different influence on people - language, lyrics, arrangements. I don't see anything wrong with it, so i didn't want on purpose to add "both"/"neither" options.

miryoku 27th May 2009 09:26 PM

I listen to Japanese pop music when I want to listen to catchy pop music that doesn't depress me. American mainstream pop music blows. Well, I'm not even sure what is big right now, because I don't pay attention to the billboard hits. Kayne West is pretty sweet, but other than that I don't know much of what's going on.

Every other time I listen to Western classic rock or indie music-- not because I think it is fundamentally better than Asian music-- but it just seems all the serious artists in Japan produce really boring music. The biggest indie bands from Japan just produce either soft, mellow music or that Pillows alternative sound that all kind of sounds the same (although there are standouts). So in terms of creativity I think "Western" music is better, but for pop music Japan produces some catchy stuff.

To each his own though. If you think "Asian" music is the shiznit than that's cool too. I just get made fun of by all my friends for listening to Arashi, AAA and Jpop stuff haha.


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