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Polyrhythm 15th July 2009 10:01 PM

One piece of BS after another :yes

Empry 15th July 2009 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by noidea (Post 2023502)
she filmed several PVs in America, recorded some songs in america, did fotoshoots in america and for her busy shedule and the long flight to Europe and America, that is really often

Read my reponse to your post again. I bolded Europe and not America.

noidea 15th July 2009 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2023505)
Eh, she's recorded in America since LOVEppears IIRC and has had American mixers/mastering directors since then as well. I recall that Dave Way did a LOT of LOVEppears.. I don't think that says anything about whether or not she'll come here though.

eh, sorry, I forgot about how early she went to America...even before her debut if i remember correctly for vocal lessons in NY

@Empry
I'm sorry, my Firefox sometimes has problems with bolded text, it still shows it non-bolded for me someway...But well, even if she did not went to Europe, she had many PVs with european sets(examples:momentum, Together When..., Days(i think), rainy day, Beautiful Fighters.......) recently showing her interest in Europe and she already showed her interest in the world really early for example in the complete DT01, and now that her english is improving I think that she really is preparing to either come to America and Europe more often or to launch a debut here(though the first option is way more likely of course), I actually think all the PVs with european sets would have been filmed in europe if she had the time(and wasnt momentum even filmed somewhere in europe? I remember shots of the city out of the air)

mimi.chan 15th July 2009 10:18 PM

Though I wanted her to perform in U.S....
I prefer her stay in Asia, I feel like something bad could happen.. idk.. it's just my thought
Plus... I don't want my poor ayu to get hurt... and if this was true and she succeeded ..I'll be so proud of her but I just don't have that feeling right now

panda87 15th July 2009 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hidekirby (Post 2023507)
Mmh... I may be the only one but I would prefer her to stay in Asia...

you're not alone. i prefer her in asia. not another BoA and Utada. she will only be used to suck money out of then kicked back to Asia. if she does come here, i hope she doesn't give a cheesy impression like the past two. it's humiliating. she truly has to be herself b/c i honestly didn't feel that rawness from BoA and Utada. dear lord... *shakes head*

joshohhhhh 15th July 2009 10:25 PM

I'd rather she stay in Asia. She could maybe visit and live in America for inspiration or something... but I'd feel like her image would get tainted and be unappreciated. I'm not a fan of the American entertainment industry.

SunshineSlayer 15th July 2009 10:28 PM

OK, even though this is a tabloid.....Friday magazine is often accurate...

truehappiness 15th July 2009 10:30 PM

FRIDAY's often right when it comes to scandals and etc., but when they make these theories.. I dunno. Have they made a ton of "Ayu is preggerz!?"/"Ayu is retiring!!?!" headlines in the past? I don't really recall.. hm..

Polyrhythm 15th July 2009 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by panda87 (Post 2023524)
you're not alone. i prefer her in asia. not another BoA and Utada. she will only be used to suck money out of then kicked back to Asia. if she does come here, i hope she doesn't give a cheesy impression like the past two. it's humiliating. she truly has to be herself b/c i honestly didn't feel that rawness from BoA and Utada. dear lord... *shakes head*

Hi I dont know about BoA but Utada didnt give a "cheesy" impression here in the U.S. She sounded purposeful, educated, and most importantly humble. :shrug. She actually had a significant impact here if you ask me being the first Japanese artist to break the billboard top 100 in more than 20 years. :love

SunshineSlayer 15th July 2009 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2023532)
FRIDAY's often right when it comes to scandals and etc., but when they make these theories.. I dunno. Have they made a ton of "Ayu is preggerz!?"/"Ayu is retiring!!?!" headlines in the past? I don't really recall.. hm..

^ Not that I know of. That combined with her TA message and one of our very own forum members saying Max Matsuura hinted at him about this, I think puts this at least in the "quite possible" category.

Honestly, I don't really like it though.

XxCaRoLcHaNxX 15th July 2009 10:35 PM

if ayu goes international, it would be good for me but idk if it would be good for her,haha.

maze 15th July 2009 10:35 PM

theory simply.. =/
I will not say anything until the rumor is confirmed by herself. :yes
i don't think so...

Bigtop 15th July 2009 10:36 PM

I don't know if she should expand horizons across the Pacific and cross the big Eurasian land to the United States and Europe, respectively...

I mean, how did BoA and Utada do in the United States? I'm just wondering...

But in the case for Ayu, we'll just have to wait and see if she's going beyond, especially with the digital world today we can know about Ayu from virtually anywhere around the world, even in the United States (and maybe even Africa)...

noidea 15th July 2009 10:36 PM

@ SunshineSlayer yeah, we all know what the american industry is like and what is kind of NEEDED to be succesful there, I am scared the deopth of her music, PVs and concerts would go and she would make a PURE mainstream album just like Hikki
@ Bigtop
They both flopped really badly, BoA didnt even manage to get in the top 100 i think

truehappiness 15th July 2009 10:37 PM

If I recall correctly, Max and Ayu's bodyguard "told" Maxker when he saw him at the concert..

But.. somehow I doubt that this exchange happened for whatever reason, haha. I guess we'll have to see how this all pans out.

SunshineSlayer 15th July 2009 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2023542)
If I recall correctly, Max and Ayu's bodyguard "told" Maxker when he saw him at the concert..

But.. somehow I doubt that this exchange happened for whatever reason, haha. I guess we'll have to see how this all pans out.

If Maxker was just some random poster, I would doubt it, but at least he has been around for a while.

Honestly, if its true though, I'm kind of dreading it. (for all the reasons others have mentioned) As well as the fact that it will probably not help her popularity in Japan any and if it fails (which history has shown it is likely to), she would likely be coming back to a smaller fanbase I think.

critter333294 15th July 2009 10:43 PM

I dont think it would be that good of an idea for her to try and do something in america. Our whole mainstream pop music scene is focuses heavily on sex, lyrics that aren't too meaningful, etc. I feel like it would be a lot of pressure on her to change her image, and become something she's not. I love Ayu, but she's way too much of a goody two shoes to appeal to people here who listen to pop artists like Lady Gaga and Britney Spears.

Polyrhythm 15th July 2009 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2023540)
I don't know if she should expand horizons across the Pacific and cross the big Eurasian land to the United States and Europe, respectively...

I mean, how did BoA and Utada do in the United States? I'm just wondering...

But in the case for Ayu, we'll just have to wait and see if she's going beyond, especially with the digital world today we can know about Ayu from virtually anywhere around the world, even in the United States (and maybe even Africa)...

BoA's album sold around 8000 copies(or more) and reached #127 on the US billboard 200. Utada's This Is The One sold like 16000(or more) copies and reached #69 on the same chart(1st Japanese artist in 20+ years to do this) and she also became the first Japanese artist to reach #19 on US iTune's overall albums and #2 on US iTunes Pop albums.

SunshineSlayer 15th July 2009 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by critter333294 (Post 2023551)
I dont think it would be that good of an idea for her to try and do something in america. Our whole mainstream pop music scene is focuses heavily on sex, lyrics that aren't too meaningful, etc. I feel like it would be a lot of pressure on her to change her image, and become something she's not. I love Ayu, but she's way too much of a goody two shoes to appeal to people here who listen to pop artists like Lady Gaga and Britney Spears.


^ And I would be very dissapointed if she did actually change herself to fit that image. Hopefully this does just turn out to be a rumor.

Ayumiko 15th July 2009 10:46 PM

I rather ayu stay in asia...she won't stand a chance in the US. She's already slowing down releases...if she's gonna focus the US and Europe markets, we'll have to wait even longer for new songs.


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