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ayumisrael 18th December 2012 10:52 AM

3rd Week

1st Day
Position: #15

brener 18th December 2012 12:00 PM

i dont get this difference between LOVE and again sales, maybe the tie-in?

ayu-butterfly 18th December 2012 12:27 PM

I'm sorry, maybe it's me, but I don't see any reason for her 'fans' to leave her or stop liking her/follow her career. She's not doing anything wrong, she's just living her life, she's 34, she's not a little girl anymore. What's wrong about being in a relationship? It didn't work out with Mannie, should she be single forever? Now everyone's judging cause she's with Maro, but well, she seems happy, doesn't she? Idk, I don't think she's being scandalous. But this is just my opinion. I hope people keep buying and she finds her way back on top.

maikaru 18th December 2012 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ayu-butterfly (Post 2949249)
I'm sorry, maybe it's me, but I don't see any reason for her 'fans' to leave her or stop liking her/follow her career. She's not doing anything wrong, she's just living her life, she's 34, she's not a little girl anymore. What's wrong about being in a relationship? It didn't work out with Mannie, should she be single forever? Now everyone's judging cause she's with Maro, but well, she seems happy, doesn't she? Idk, I don't think she's being scandalous. But this is just my opinion. I hope people keep buying and she finds her way back on top.

No one is complaining that she's in love.

They're complaining that it seems like a show, that he's always around in the music videos, on the album covers, etc. =/

KarenPang 18th December 2012 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 2949259)
No one is complaining that she's in love.

They're complaining that it seems like a show, that he's always around in the music videos, on the album covers, etc. =/

I agree , there's nothing wrong for ayumi to fall in love despite failed relationships she had before

But when she was with Nagase , you don't see him overshadowing if not appearing in her PVs & all that , unlike what happened for Mannie & now Maro

Isn't it a bit too of a coincidence ? :shrug

Love songs - Mannie appeared in 3 PVs

& now in again - Maro appeared in 2 PVs & includes being on the covers (he's blocked but despite this , you still can see him subtly)

TeamAyu2004 18th December 2012 03:13 PM

People are still over reacting, they need to get over it and fast.

I'm glad is was at 15 today and 10K last week. nice.
I knew this would have no problem hitting 50K... some people... :rolleyes.
anyways...
Next will see it certified.

Delicious n Bold 18th December 2012 05:46 PM

You never know
It may not hit 50k
Ayu could drop faster than a fat kid off of the Eiffel Tower.
Lets hope it doesn't

TeamAyu2004 18th December 2012 06:07 PM

^ that is increability wrong, lol (im laughing inside though)... and technically speaking, they would fall at the same speed. lol

Delicious n Bold 18th December 2012 06:09 PM

^ with no air resistance, yes.
But I hate physics... Ugh
I wonder if ayu hates physics

njanjayrp 18th December 2012 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 2949259)
No one is complaining that she's in love.

They're complaining that it seems like a show, that he's always around in the music videos, on the album covers, etc. =/

That story is getting old. I understand people are hurt and all, even though I can't understand them I can see where the frustration is coming from. Live, let live & get over it.

Jawdarna 19th December 2012 12:22 AM

I'm so glad it will most likely achieve 50K.

I can't help but think that if this album had been promoted differently it could have been the beginning of a comeback. Even if it was a very, very petite beginning, at least it would be one. :D

ayu_ready? 19th December 2012 08:16 AM

^ I think I agree too, if there wouldn't have been Maro and PVs would have been epic...

Polyrhythm 19th December 2012 09:27 AM

Dunno why people are still blaming these sales on her supposed "scandal." It's not like being in a relationship (she's in her 30's for godssake) has all of a sudden made her a public disgrace. She was even married to that Austrian model (???pornstar???) for a while and nothing drastic like this happened to her sales. Perhaps the fans have just run out of money to throw at this (pretty pointless) unforgiving onslaught of "mini-releases." Even though the music is the most amazing she's had in years, it's pretty obvious; she and avex are just milkin' the fans and I believe they've just discovered the limit.

SolarAngel 19th December 2012 09:51 AM

I feel that 15th anniversary would have been the perfect premise for Ayu to make a comeback but she and Avex don't seem to be doing it right. Take Namie for example. Fans want to see her pretty, hot and dancing so that's what she consistently gives them. I think Ayu at the height of her popularity was seen as very cool, independent and regal almost but she sort of smashed that self-image with mannie, timmy and maro. Now she seems like a silly giggling teenager playing with the boys and it doesn't help that she's 34. I think people stopped appreciating this change in her professional image.

KarenPang 19th December 2012 12:18 PM

3rd Week

2nd Day

Position: #29

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2012-12-18/more/4/

ayumisrael 19th December 2012 01:03 PM

2nd Day
Position: #29

Top 30, not too shabby.

TeamAyu2004 19th December 2012 03:26 PM

i wish it was doing better.
pull a beni and just stay around, again.
lol

inspire_rmx 19th December 2012 03:29 PM

this release definitely deserve more sales than this.. hope that 2013 will be a better year for Ayu

isthisLOL? 19th December 2012 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyrhythm (Post 2949602)
Dunno why people are still blaming these sales on her supposed "scandal." It's not like being in a relationship (she's in her 30's for godssake) has all of a sudden made her a public disgrace. She was even married to that Austrian model (???pornstar???) for a while and nothing drastic like this happened to her sales. Perhaps the fans have just run out of money to throw at this (pretty pointless) unforgiving onslaught of "mini-releases." Even though the music is the most amazing she's had in years, it's pretty obvious; she and avex are just milkin' the fans and I believe they've just discovered the limit.

I'm sorry, but I find it kinda ironic that you complain about Ayumi/avex milking the fans yet you have an AKB48 signature. AKB48 is living proof that milking fans to crazy amounts for stupid reasons does work.
This may be partly affected by the high price considering the low amount of songs, but that can't be the only aspect. Especially when again has more new material than LOVE yet sells much worse and the most successful group in Japan right now is the one with the most insane milking strategies on the entire market.

Delicious n Bold 19th December 2012 04:47 PM

Top 30! :)
Such low standards now.... So sad


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