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AyumiAi 19th December 2012 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SolarAngel (Post 2949603)
I feel that 15th anniversary would have been the perfect premise for Ayu to make a comeback but she and Avex don't seem to be doing it right. Take Namie for example. Fans want to see her pretty, hot and dancing so that's what she consistently gives them. I think Ayu at the height of her popularity was seen as very cool, independent and regal almost but she sort of smashed that self-image with mannie, timmy and maro. Now she seems like a silly giggling teenager playing with the boys and it doesn't help that she's 34. I think people stopped appreciating this change in her professional image.

mmm yes that could very well be it >.< I just feel that I could have done a 100% better job at marketing Ayu instead of her professional team which is sad... =_=

ayumimylove 19th December 2012 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AyumiAi (Post 2949710)
mmm yes that could very well be it >.< I just feel that I could have done a 100% better job at marketing Ayu instead of her professional team which is sad... =_=

I think just the same, so join to the club xD

taskinillusion 19th December 2012 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SolarAngel (Post 2949603)
I feel that 15th anniversary would have been the perfect premise for Ayu to make a comeback but she and Avex don't seem to be doing it right. Take Namie for example. Fans want to see her pretty, hot and dancing so that's what she consistently gives them. I think Ayu at the height of her popularity was seen as very cool, independent and regal almost but she sort of smashed that self-image with mannie, timmy and maro. Now she seems like a silly giggling teenager playing with the boys and it doesn't help that she's 34. I think people stopped appreciating this change in her professional image.

True, very true.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 19th December 2012 11:19 PM

I can't believe my albums still didn't ****ing arrive. Damn YA! I'm so done with them!

Chibi-Chan 19th December 2012 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by isthisLOL? (Post 2949698)
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Originally Posted by Polyrhythm (Post 2949602)
Dunno why people are still blaming these sales on her supposed "scandal." It's not like being in a relationship (she's in her 30's for godssake) has all of a sudden made her a public disgrace. She was even married to that Austrian model (???pornstar???) for a while and nothing drastic like this happened to her sales. Perhaps the fans have just run out of money to throw at this (pretty pointless) unforgiving onslaught of "mini-releases." Even though the music is the most amazing she's had in years, it's pretty obvious; she and avex are just milkin' the fans and I believe they've just discovered the limit.


I'm sorry, but I find it kinda ironic that you complain about Ayumi/avex milking the fans yet you have an AKB48 signature. AKB48 is living proof that milking fans to crazy amounts for stupid reasons does work.
This may be partly affected by the high price considering the low amount of songs, but that can't be the only aspect. Especially when again has more new material than LOVE yet sells much worse and the most successful group in Japan right now is the one with the most insane milking strategies on the entire market.

True!

mizuki-7 19th December 2012 11:44 PM

^
XD So true ! Look at all their release for the 1st January ! MILKING lol I'm happy to not be a fan of them XD I would be moneyless ^^


Team 4 1st stage "Boku no Taiyo" - studio recordings Collection -

Team A 1st stage "PARTY ga Hajimaruyo" - studio recordings Collection -

Team A 2nd stage "Aitakatta" - studio recordings Collection -

Team A 3rd stage "Dareka no Tame ni " - studio recordings Collection -

Team A 4th stage "Tada Ima Renai Chu" - studio recordings Collection -

Team K 1st stage "PARTY ga Hajimaruyo" - studio recordings Collection -

Team K 2nd stage "Seishun Girls" - studio recordings Collection -

Team K 3rd stage "Nonai Paradise" - studio recordings Collection -

Team B 1st stage "Seishun Girls" - studio recordings Collection -

Team B 2nd stage "Aitakatta" - studio recordings Collection -

Himawari Gumi 1st stage "Boku no Taiyo" - studio recordings Collection -

Team A 5th stage "Renai Kinshi Jyorei" - studio recordings Collection -

Team A 6th stage "Mokugekisha" - studio recordings Collection -

Team K 4th stage "Saishu Bell ga Naru" - studio recordings Collection -

Team K 5th stage "Sakaagari"studio recordings Collection -

Team K 6th stage "RESET" - studio recordings Collection -

Team B 3rd stage "Pajama Drive" - studio recordings Collection -

Team B 4th stage "Idol no Yoake" - studio recordings Collection -

Team B 5th stage "THEATER no Megami" - studio recordings Collection -

Himawari Gumi 2nd stage "Yume wo Shinaseru Wake niwa Ikanai" - studio recordings Collection -

adantatu2 20th December 2012 05:16 AM

^WTH are those !!!

KarenPang 20th December 2012 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mizuki-7 (Post 2949801)
^
XD So true ! Look at all their release for the 1st January ! MILKING lol I'm happy to not be a fan of them XD I would be moneyless ^^


Team 4 1st stage "Boku no Taiyo" - studio recordings Collection -

Team A 1st stage "PARTY ga Hajimaruyo" - studio recordings Collection -

Team A 2nd stage "Aitakatta" - studio recordings Collection -

Team A 3rd stage "Dareka no Tame ni " - studio recordings Collection -

Team A 4th stage "Tada Ima Renai Chu" - studio recordings Collection -

Team K 1st stage "PARTY ga Hajimaruyo" - studio recordings Collection -

Team K 2nd stage "Seishun Girls" - studio recordings Collection -

Team K 3rd stage "Nonai Paradise" - studio recordings Collection -

Team B 1st stage "Seishun Girls" - studio recordings Collection -

Team B 2nd stage "Aitakatta" - studio recordings Collection -

Himawari Gumi 1st stage "Boku no Taiyo" - studio recordings Collection -

Team A 5th stage "Renai Kinshi Jyorei" - studio recordings Collection -

Team A 6th stage "Mokugekisha" - studio recordings Collection -

Team K 4th stage "Saishu Bell ga Naru" - studio recordings Collection -

Team K 5th stage "Sakaagari"studio recordings Collection -

Team K 6th stage "RESET" - studio recordings Collection -

Team B 3rd stage "Pajama Drive" - studio recordings Collection -

Team B 4th stage "Idol no Yoake" - studio recordings Collection -

Team B 5th stage "THEATER no Megami" - studio recordings Collection -

Himawari Gumi 2nd stage "Yume wo Shinaseru Wake niwa Ikanai" - studio recordings Collection -

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Originally Posted by adantatu2 (Post 2949883)
^WTH are those !!!

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/list_from_c...CDA&key=385015

Seems that the above list that mizuki-7 posted are albums that were originally only sold on their official site but now CDJapan is selling them which all titles will be out on Jan 2013 :tired :dead2

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"studio recordings Collection" series, which was sold exclusively at their official site, is now available with an additional disc featuring karaoke tracks.

Bigtop 20th December 2012 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SolarAngel (Post 2949603)
I feel that 15th anniversary would have been the perfect premise for Ayu to make a comeback but she and Avex don't seem to be doing it right. Take Namie for example. Fans want to see her pretty, hot and dancing so that's what she consistently gives them. I think Ayu at the height of her popularity was seen as very cool, independent and regal almost but she sort of smashed that self-image with mannie, timmy and maro. Now she seems like a silly giggling teenager playing with the boys and it doesn't help that she's 34. I think people stopped appreciating this change in her professional image.

Agreed :yes

I'm not sure what has been going on behind closed doors... :(

Delicious n Bold 20th December 2012 06:40 AM

The amount of AKB milking is making my pretend cow collapse in fear.

Minttulatte 20th December 2012 01:17 PM

Avex should use some of that money that comes from milking AKB fans on Ayu's next mini album and go on the experimental pop route again. Party Queen was going to the right direction imo.

And for heaven's sake, bring Timmy back with his phenomenal music, plz! ;_;

ayumisrael 20th December 2012 01:32 PM

3rd Day
Position: #36

Recochoku 2nd Week
chaku uta: #90 Wake me up
chaku uta FULL: #140 Song 4 u

Delicious n Bold 20th December 2012 01:46 PM

Nobody downloads snowy kiss?
No taste.

isthisLOL? 20th December 2012 01:53 PM

Can't believe my least favorite again track is the most popular...actually, that's the case most of the times I guess...

ExodusUK 20th December 2012 02:02 PM

lol at people here thinking they know the market better than japanese professional music and marketing executives
http://stan-wars.com/7habits_2.html

owlflight 20th December 2012 02:03 PM

Still waiting for my copy of again. I'm having it shipped with A CLASSICAL.

Delicious n Bold 20th December 2012 03:34 PM

Well, the Japanese market is like a mixture of 10 year olds with methodologies more ancient than my dead great great great grandma.

freedreamer 20th December 2012 03:36 PM

OMG 20 RELEASE BY AKB48?!?!? what on earth...

isthisLOL? 20th December 2012 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by freedreamer (Post 2950026)
OMG 20 RELEASE BY AKB48?!?!? what on earth...

Don't forget they ALWAYS release 4 or 5 versions of their singles with different tracklists and one of x postcards, too. Money milking machines. I really wonder how much they would sell without those gimmicks, maybe 200-400k/single?

Andrenekoi 20th December 2012 04:06 PM

I actually work with marketing and advertising and I admit I wouldn't really know where or how to start promoting someone on Ayu's position...

But whatever... most people here would just try dressing her cute and forcing her down people's throat by puting her everywhere until her career no longer exist by oversaturation...


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