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noidea 9th June 2009 01:35 PM

This tour grows on me someway...even without watching it...I hope it will make me love NEXT LEVEL again, I kind of started disliking it...Hope for a TV version during A-Nation or something(wouldn't A-Nation and AT09 on TV right behind each other be amazing?)

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Originally Posted by TakaSama (Post 1973444)
...but I know it was live because she was out of breath by the end.

Ayu sometimes synchs only parts of the songs...(many UNITE! choruses, some evolution choruses, ANGEL's SONG CDL0809 had the last lines live(and out of breath) as well...) But I don't want to start a discussion now, I will wait for a TV or DVD release to say she sung it live or playback, this is only to say that thats not much of a proof when it comes to ayu xD

njanjayrp 9th June 2009 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 1973893)
:roflmao

Where there is someone who hates something, there's someone who loves it. Likewise, Ayu (or anyone) could release a "masterpiece" and there are still people who will trash it. It's totally based on opinion. And popular opinion usually determines whether something's good or not. I say, if you enjoy it, you enjoy it. If you don't, you don't. The problem is people have a hard time accepting other people's opinions and other people don't make it easy by bashing/praising everything.

Ah don't worry I wasn't trying to bash Hikki, as I myself am a fan of her Japanese work :) I am far from hating her, she was the first JPOP artist I got into. But yeah, it's all based on opinion, I considered GUILTY a masterpiece xD many didn't think so :innocent

jbrat2219 9th June 2009 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 1973926)
Ah don't worry I wasn't trying to bash Hikki, as I myself am a fan of her Japanese work :) I am far from hating her, she was the first JPOP artist I got into. But yeah, it's all based on opinion, I considered GUILTY a masterpiece xD many didn't think so :innocent

It's okay, I know you weren't ^^; Just in general, people like to bash a lot D:

I think GUILTY was perfect to be honest. I don't care what anyone else says LOL. I think NEXT LEVEL is great also because it acts like the extreme contrast to GUILTY. It's like:


Dark - GUILTY -------------(everything else)--------------- NEXT LEVEL - Light-hearted

It clearly reflects everything that's been going on in her life. The GUILTY era was a dark time for her, but during NEXT LEVEL, things started looking up :) I don't think some people view the albums that way. But that's definitely how I see it.

njanjayrp 9th June 2009 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 1973946)
It's okay, I know you weren't ^^; Just in general, people like to bash a lot D:

I think GUILTY was perfect to be honest. I don't care what anyone else says LOL. I think NEXT LEVEL is great also because it acts like the extreme contrast to GUILTY. It's like:


Dark - GUILTY -------------(everything else)--------------- NEXT LEVEL - Light-hearted

It clearly reflects everything that's been going on in her life. The GUILTY era was a dark time for her, but during NEXT LEVEL, things started looking up :) I don't think some people view the albums that way. But that's definitely how I see it.

Exactly, even though I can relate to the whole GUILTY theme more, I love NEXT LEVEL as she made a perfect combo of rock and electro pop.

freedreamer 9th June 2009 04:46 PM

^ I'LL JOIN BOTH OF U IN THAT IDEA :)
somehow GUILTY fit my life so I loved it. NEXT LEVEL offered something bright and new...which is just great

noidea 9th June 2009 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 1973946)
It's okay, I know you weren't ^^; Just in general, people like to bash a lot D:

I think GUILTY was perfect to be honest. I don't care what anyone else says LOL. I think NEXT LEVEL is great also because it acts like the extreme contrast to GUILTY. It's like:


Dark - GUILTY -------------(everything else)--------------- NEXT LEVEL - Light-hearted

It clearly reflects everything that's been going on in her life. The GUILTY era was a dark time for her, but during NEXT LEVEL, things started looking up :) I don't think some people view the albums that way. But that's definitely how I see it.

I think the same about it^^ There was nothing about GUILTY I really hated, NOTHING, all of her other albums have at least one song I truly HATE, it was perfect! And the contrast to NEXT LEVEL(we didnt have light-hearted songs for quite a time) made NEXT LEVEL better, at least when it was released...but it can still grow on me...

aura~ 9th June 2009 05:34 PM

^me too, I love both extrems and GUILTY has a lot of great songs!

and taka-sama, i'm anxious to read your report!!

AAAAAH!!! I WANT TO GO T____T WHYYY??? why I have to go to university and pay for a room this year and can't spend this money to go and see ayu's tour??? WHYYY??!! -_________-

freedreamer 9th June 2009 05:54 PM

everytime i listen to NEXT LEVEL...i keep having that craving for a dark song to just add that spice..(and the closest would be Sparkle...for the mysterious part) LOL

MissElin_ 9th June 2009 06:28 PM

Personally...

GUILT > NEXT LEVEL

Just because GUILTY came closer to me and did have more variety imo. But yes both albums are great. Now Im just waiting for the middle between GUILTY and NL meaning I am...(album) pt. 2! :D

noidea 9th June 2009 06:57 PM

^ OMG, perfect xD I just noticed how that describtion exactly fits I Am... and how I Am... kind of is my favourite album together with GUILTY

jbrat2219 9th June 2009 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MissElin_ (Post 1974195)
Now Im just waiting for the middle between GUILTY and NL meaning I am...(album) pt. 2! :D

Yessssssss \(T_T)/

rookies 9th June 2009 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by amorphose (Post 1973588)
The tour isn't even over yet. XD We'll probably get the TV version in like November or December and the DVD in January. I think that's how it was for AT08.

We'll have to wait some time then. -__-

Ayusan 9th June 2009 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 1973975)
Exactly, even though I can relate to the whole GUILTY theme more, I love NEXT LEVEL as she made a perfect combo of rock and electro pop.

You, I love you :love at last someone say it: combo of rock and electro pop .... I read so many stuffs that are not NEXT LEVEL style album at all :dead2

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Originally Posted by noidea
I think the same about it^^ There was nothing about GUILTY I really hated, NOTHING, all of her other albums have at least one song I truly HATE, it was perfect!

Well for me it's a little different, there were always a song I hated or like less for each albums, one or two songs ... the too cheesy song as My all, HONEY with the kid voice, althought the melody is so nice to hum !!! .... But for one time NEXT LEVEL is totally ok for me. I just miss some darker songs like from GUILTY. ;o;

truehappiness 10th June 2009 01:11 AM

I don't think we'll get a TV version for this. The break inbetween isn't long enough to warrant one.

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Ayu sometimes synchs only parts of the songs...(many UNITE! choruses, some evolution choruses, ANGEL's SONG CDL0809 had the last lines live(and out of breath) as well...) But I don't want to start a discussion now, I will wait for a TV or DVD release to say she sung it live or playback, this is only to say that thats not much of a proof when it comes to ayu xD
... why are you throwing around your speculation as fact?

JackieRos 10th June 2009 01:20 AM

omg where the hell have i been i missed the whole first threads fill me in
(too lazy to read)

njanjayrp 10th June 2009 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JackieRos (Post 1974524)
omg where the hell have i been i missed the whole first threads fill me in
(too lazy to read)

I think that is going to be very hard :P

@Ayusan - thank you~ :love
@truehappiness - Yeah, that's what I've been wondering too, but at least lip syncing parts of the songs would make more sense xD But then again, please, let's not start the whole lip syncing talk again.

jbrat2219 10th June 2009 05:39 PM

Lol. I would have to be super focused to lip sync parts of a song. Knowing when to come in and when to shut up.

noidea 10th June 2009 05:52 PM

^ No, she doesnt, because its usually the chorus...also, her mic is turned off when she synchs, so she doesnt have to care at all, she just cant shout things when shes synching

@truehappiness
If she uses the same playback several times...its not speculation but fact...and you are starting the discussion again, please stop it. The only "speculation" is about the end of ANGEL'S SONG, but no mic-noises for all the song and then suddenly mic-noise(and out of breath) for the last lines IS proof, because the possibility of that happenign is near 0.00000001% or something...they would have to add micnoises on the playback with a computer, but they would have done for all the song and not for the last 4 lines
Takasama is speculating and letting it sound like a fact("I know she sung live because she was out of breath") but you only mind if it doesnt make ayu seem like a goddess, do you?
Ayu sings live!(speculation without evidence(or however that word is written in english))
you: no comment
Ayu sings playback!(speculation with evidence)
you: STOP SPECULATING!!!
Isnt both exactly the same? And both is possible in the same way.

Ayumiko 10th June 2009 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1974515)
... why are you throwing around your speculation as fact?

agreed :yes

truehappiness 10th June 2009 07:01 PM

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Ayu sings playback!(speculation with unproven evidence)
Yeaah. At least this thread is really close to getting done with so I can start a new one, whew~

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Ayu sings live!(speculation without evidence(or however that word is written in english))
you: no comment
Do you think that TakaSama is lying or something? Obviously, someone who hasn't even seen her live [you] doesn't even have credence over someone who has! [TakaSama] It appears that you have problems accepting the truth when it comes to things you feel strongly about, and I understand that, but.. wow. Blah.


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