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pedronekoi 10th April 2021 07:16 PM

Let's recap a few things about the japanese music industry right now... Last year only 3 female solo acts (JUJU, LiSA and Milet) topped #1 for albums on Oricon. If we go to the single chart, only 2 (Mariya Takeuchi and LiSA). If Ayu gets the #1 with A BALLADS 2 she will be the first female solo act to get the #1 for album this year so far. So this shows how much female solo acts are not selling at all in Japan. And for streamings, Ayu is doing pretty well (better then most acts from her same generation - except for Utada that alrrady got 10millions streams on her latest song). So maybe is - more than - time to wake up and face the reality and stop being bitter about her not selling 100k. :)

Xianghua 10th April 2021 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackSilence (Post 3338908)

Also i'm confused as to why you people expected massive sales. Most of the music is now online. Very few people nowadays buy albums unless they are die-hard fans or collectors. People just listen online, it's easier to access. Plus she hasn't been selling as much as she was like a decade ago, for a few years now. If she managed to get into the top 5 with 1k, you can just imagine how low the sales in the market are overall if that's a thing now, i don't know why you guys are surprised lol

Was gonna comment - it's just the sign of the times. Physical music just doesn't sell as it used to.

thinkingoutloud89 10th April 2021 08:23 PM

^I think so too

but its not true all the way - there are still artist that can shift "massiv" numbers of CDS - even without gimmicks. Just very few tho.

pedronekoi 10th April 2021 10:07 PM

ˆ If you are a boyband, girlband or have a huge tie-in, yeah it's possible. Otherwise...

mizuki-7 10th April 2021 10:27 PM

Honestly nothing has been done to moves some sales ... The popularity of Ayu is what she is but it sound to me like besides her fans and some people following musical accounts on social media nobody are aware that she released a new album and it’s like that since some times now...
No tie in, no promo, no interviews, underwhelming contents etc... even with that i cant assure that her sales would be much better but it would definitly grabe some interest from nostalgic people of her songs.

The singers of her generation who are doing better than her at the moment have all big tie in and promo. These singers probably have a better likeability than Ayu but still ...

summerain 11th April 2021 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRainbow (Post 3338904)
I don’t think it’s necessarily intentional or that someone missed it, but adding noise removal to the piano tracks would ruin the “fullness” of that piano track. Listen to the end of RED LINE, for example. Even Ayu’s vocal track has some noise, it’s just more noticeable because it’s isolated.

That's what I meant when talking about "artistic purpose". Make the piano sound "fuller" in forgiveness is important, makes the arrangement more powerful (and that's an intense song, for sure).

pedronekoi 11th April 2021 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mizuki-7 (Post 3338917)
The singers of her generation who are doing better than her at the moment have all big tie in and promo. These singers probably have a better likeability than Ayu but still ...

Not throwing shade to any other artist but Ayu is literally doing the same as other singers in terms of sales/streams without having any tie in, no tv shows, no tv variety, etc. I feel that she is doing this for us, the fans that kept following her, not the general public or to attract new audience.

KPL 11th April 2021 01:46 AM

Guys I found that if you put Days to Disc 1 (probably after You were) instead of Disc 2, the flow can be better, at least to my ears. That way Disc 1 is like the winter mood, and Disc 2 is spring, which follows winter.

Uemarasan 11th April 2021 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RealLight (Post 3338881)
Oh yeah, because releasing 9 songs in the spam of 5 years (for someone who used to drop a full album each year) is a LOT :rolleyes

She consistently released material since her debut and guess what happened? At some point she was running on empty and the quality of her output seriously suffered. Not to mention that her deafness worsened because this kind of spoiled, entitled behavior from her fans demanded that she work as though she were a factory instead of a human being.

Give your favorite artists some breathing room. Unless you want to push them towards creative and literal death.

KittyKathy 11th April 2021 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mizuki-7 (Post 3338917)
The singers of her generation who are doing better than her at the moment have all big tie in and promo. These singers probably have a better likeability than Ayu but still ...

Like Hikaru Utada. Her song has 25 million views. But I believe it's because of Evangelion. Give the opening theme of Attack on Titan to Ayu, and she will have 100m views:D. Just kidding, but yeah..

AyuCanada 11th April 2021 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KittyKathy (Post 3338901)
I thought she would be able to sell 50k copies, because I know the Japanese like to buy compilations. Looks like I was wrong. It will be good if she manages to hit 20k.

I think the era of greatest hits being a safe value is resolved since people can make their own greatest hits with streaming services.

dumbellz 11th April 2021 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pedronekoi (Post 3338910)
If Ayu gets the #1 with A BALLADS 2 she will be the first female solo act to get the #1 for album this year so far. So this shows how much female solo acts are not selling at all in Japan.

Wait, first female solo to get number 1 album this year? Utada’s latest album did not reach 1 on the first day?

njanjayrp 11th April 2021 11:12 AM

Also realizing that LiSA sold 66k with Leonine in its first week and that she’s had a huge hit on the album paints a good picture of how much the public cares about CDs. Gurenge had over 170 million streams on Spotify and Adamad over 35 million. Literally every other song she releases has an anime tie in.

The same with Aimer, her last 2 albums sold around 35k each in 2019 again every other song has a tie in.

If you consider TROUBLE even Ayu isn’t doing that bad really...

kendelle 11th April 2021 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dumbellz (Post 3338946)
Wait, first female solo to get number 1 album this year? Utada’s latest album did not reach 1 on the first day?

One Last Kiss peaked at #2 on Oricon although it sold 100k physical and over 20k digital

thinkingoutloud89 11th April 2021 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pedronekoi (Post 3338916)
ˆ If you are a boyband, girlband or have a huge tie-in, yeah it's possible. Otherwise...

King Gnu, Kenshi Yonezu, SEKAI NO OWARI?

dumbellz 11th April 2021 01:33 PM

She’s fourth today but third place sold 757 copies...I was expecting more copies sold on a Saturday for everyone but it’s only 1k copies even for first place

dumbellz 11th April 2021 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kendelle (Post 3338951)
One Last Kiss peaked at #2 on Oricon although it sold 100k physical and over 20k digital

Wow, which boy group got the first on that day

thinkingoutloud89 11th April 2021 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dumbellz (Post 3338955)
Wow, which boy group got the first on that day

the story for OLK is different since it is essentially a single classified as an album.
Some Anime stuff got #1 that week

https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/780787...cts/1384078/1/

edit: OLK was still #3 the week after tho

edit 2: and #1 today lol

kinix 11th April 2021 03:12 PM

I hope all those who are concerned with the sales, actually helped out in increasing the sales. If not, why do you even care about the sales? Don't think ayu cares about sales. Or it haven't reach to the state where she is worried yet.

Krushnic 11th April 2021 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lyssayu (Post 3338849)

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