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perfectodub 10th April 2011 09:45 PM

about the voyage remix:
Dj turbo is not my favorite dj, anyway, i think his remix is fine..like the rest of his ayu remixes.
but i have more expectation about the north american house remixers

pride123 10th April 2011 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2665465)
I would think the acoustic versions would sound amazing for some upbeat songs if she re-recorded the vocals more softly. I think the "YEAH!!!" and power feel feel she sings with accompanied by beautiful acoustics would not be as great as if she rerecorded the vocals to match the feel.

and the Voyage remix - dislike because I do not like house.

Don't think she'll be re-recording those songs, because for Voyage (TURBO's Circuit mix), they've use her voice in 2002, the normal one. :grumpy

Violently Happy 10th April 2011 10:59 PM

I can't wait! I pre ordered the box set! ^_^

Zeke. 10th April 2011 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pride123 (Post 2665622)
Don't think she'll be re-recording those songs, because for Voyage (TURBO's Circuit mix), they've use her voice in 2002, the normal one. :grumpy

I didn't think they would but it would be a much better idea had they done so.

pride123 10th April 2011 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2665640)
I didn't think they would but it would be a much better idea had they done so.


I wished they would re-record those remix thou... Much better and better vocals.
:)

(miss)understood 10th April 2011 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by InvaderSTELLAR (Post 2665603)
I like the leaked remix of "Voyage". I like how some of the intervals with just music sound almost ominous.

me too :)


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Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2665465)
and the Voyage remix - dislike because I do not like house.

dude that sucks... because that's 1/4 of the remixes hahah


i love house music, i find it much more dance-able than trance or eurobeat (which are much faster in tempo). however i very much love trance for anytime-listening on my ipod. :yes

i wish she would have re-recorded the vocals.
but that would probably take too much time and effort, and some of those higher notes she could easily sing when she was younger are probably really hard for her to hit now.

or something

Bigtop 10th April 2011 11:56 PM

I'm looking forward to the acoustic orchestras. I LOVE ACOUSTIC ORCHESTRA VERSIONS!!! Too bad they did NOT put JEWEL - hopefully sooner or later JEWEL can finally be released in an orchestra version... :grumpy

(miss)understood 10th April 2011 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2665650)
I'm looking forward to the acoustic orchestras. I LOVE ACOUSTIC ORCHESTRA VERSIONS!!! Too bad they did NOT put JEWEL - hopefully sooner or later JEWEL can finally be released in an orchestra version... :grumpy

I did not realize it but, you're right, she hasn't released an acoustic orchestral of JEWEL... and I think that could be so beautiful too. I think she should release a new A BALLADS ;)

But, I think she is only putting the 50 single hits on this ayu-mi-x. so it makes sense JEWEL is not on it.

JackieRos 11th April 2011 12:15 AM

not leaked ye not leaked yet >.<

Zeke. 11th April 2011 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by (miss)understood (Post 2665649)
me too :)




dude that sucks... because that's 1/4 of the remixes hahah


i love house music, i find it much more dance-able than trance or eurobeat (which are much faster in tempo). however i very much love trance for anytime-listening on my ipod. :yes

i wish she would have re-recorded the vocals.
but that would probably take too much time and effort, and some of those higher notes she could easily sing when she was younger are probably really hard for her to hit now.

or something

I feel like house has no climax - it's all just beats and usually lacking a good melody.

LastAngel 11th April 2011 01:14 AM

Is there any news on the OS versions?

Kanzaki 11th April 2011 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2665659)
I feel like house has no climax - it's all just beats and usually lacking a good melody.

That's the exact same statement my boyfriend always gives, whenever I mention house music. He too -as I think you are?- is a vocal trance enthusiast :) I think there's a connection there! Vocal trance, to me, is just filled with climaxes. They have small buildups, with lots of overkills (overkill here, not being a bad thing) on top of each other almost.

I love house music for its more subtle emotional qualities, like some dubstep.

Cyberbird 11th April 2011 10:49 AM

Why a house ver. laked first? D:

TeamAyu2004 11th April 2011 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pride123 (Post 2665622)
Don't think she'll be re-recording those songs, because for Voyage (TURBO's Circuit mix), they've use her voice in 2002, the normal one. :grumpy

I thought they said somewhere around that they were re-recording all the vocal tracks for these releases?? Or was that just for the AO's?

Pieces_of_SEVEN 11th April 2011 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2665796)
I thought they said somewhere around that they were re-recording all the vocal tracks for these releases?? Or was that just for the AO's?

They didn't re-record anything. They simply said that to make new versions of her older songs, they would use her vocal tracks.

Picaflor 7/4 11th April 2011 04:01 PM

^In other words. she's a complete lazy ass that doesn't feel like re-recording all the songs. I wouldn't want to either. that's 50 singles worth of songs.

Zeke. 11th April 2011 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kanzaki88 (Post 2665780)
That's the exact same statement my boyfriend always gives, whenever I mention house music. He too -as I think you are?- is a vocal trance enthusiast :) I think there's a connection there! Vocal trance, to me, is just filled with climaxes. They have small buildups, with lots of overkills (overkill here, not being a bad thing) on top of each other almost.

I love house music for its more subtle emotional qualities, like some dubstep.

Not just vocal trance, trance in general - but yes. I love the epic buildup in trance before the major kick! Trance is so much more emotional and I have such mad respect for producers who can convey such amazing emotion through non-vocal trance tracks especially.

I've read this statement somewhere before:

"Trance is for the heart. House is for the soul."

love in music 11th April 2011 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4 (Post 2665886)
^In other words. she's a complete lazy ass that doesn't feel like re-recording all the songs. I wouldn't want to either. that's 50 singles worth of songs.

it'd be a wasted effort too. it'd just piss off a lot of the fans who prefer her vocals in the original songs.

Zeke. 11th April 2011 04:24 PM

Yeah I think re-records are overrated now. I really didn't like any of the 10th Anniversary re-record vocals (especially Who... - what a God-awful letdown). Her voice just does not suit them anymore - but I still would like a re-recording for evolution (softer acoustic version and raw rock version).

channy 11th April 2011 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2665889)
"Trance is for the heart. House is for the soul."

What's the difference between heart and soul, if we talk about those words as synonym for emotions? :mgagged

love in music 11th April 2011 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2665895)
Yeah I think re-records are overrated now. I really didn't like any of the 10th Anniversary re-record vocals (especially Who... - what a God-awful letdown). Her voice just does not suit them anymore - but I still would like a re-recording for evolution (softer acoustic version and raw rock version).

Who... and TO BE are actually the only 10th anniversary ones I like (and prefer to the originals) but I remember how much everyone hated all the 10th anniversary versions because of the rerecorded vocals lol. most fans of the original songs feel like she ruins her classics when she rerecords them (unless it's A SONG FOR XX), so I really don't think rerecording all these songs would be a good idea.

tokyoxjapanxfan 11th April 2011 04:53 PM

I liked Depend on you's 10th anniversary version :P
The music, especially at the end (guitar) is really great aha...

But yeah, I don't see the necessity of re-recording all the tracks.

Heavenly 11th April 2011 05:36 PM

I think that a re-recording for the AO songs would be appropriate, because some of the songs that will be remixed are upbeat /fast songs (like evolution or AUDIENCE) and the rhythm wouldn't fit the orchestra music...

Sandy 11th April 2011 05:46 PM

I like acoustic versions, but acoustic orchestra? You never know what's coming...

These are some songs I don't understand why make AC/ORC versions:

01. WHATEVER (Arranged by CMJK)
- if the tempo is the same as in the original, I can only see a chatastrophy ahead. This song is not supposed to be acoustic.

04. kanariya (Arranged by Yuta Nakano)
- if not with new vocal, I can't listen to it. The song is nice and I love the PV but Ayu sounds terrible.

06. NEVER EVER (Arranged by Akimitsu Homma)
- No no whyyyyyyy >:< I still have traumas from the ayu-mi-x 4 Acoustic Version

09. evolution (Arranged by Yuta Nakano)
- if it's like in Asia Tour 2007 then gimme!!!! :love

11. You were... (Arranged by CMJK)
- the ONLY "new" song and pretty much the worst choice :eviltongu

Wanted to share my opinion
9 days left <3

krtman2002 11th April 2011 05:53 PM

I think that 10th anniversary versions were really good, specially TO BE version. Her vocals are great in that song and I think she gives more drama!

I think she should re-record her first album: A song for XX. I loke most of the songs, but not her voice.. :S

Kana×Shin 11th April 2011 05:55 PM

no one is sharing it with us? :(

ExodusUK 11th April 2011 05:57 PM

The upbeat AOs will probably be similar to what they did with And Then for the 2nd AO disc. They would have to re-record vocals to do anything drastic with them, which is never going to happen.

Zeke. 11th April 2011 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by love in music (Post 2665903)
Who... and TO BE are actually the only 10th anniversary ones I like (and prefer to the originals) but I remember how much everyone hated all the 10th anniversary versions because of the rerecorded vocals lol. most fans of the original songs feel like she ruins her classics when she rerecords them (unless it's A SONG FOR XX), so I really don't think rerecording all these songs would be a good idea.

Well the re-recorded vocal versions that appeared on A BEST were AMAZING! I love those ones, especially A Song For XX and Depend on you. Also the A Song For XX on A BALLADS was great too.
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Originally Posted by ShiSeido (Post 2665896)
What's the difference between heart and soul, if we talk about those words as synonym for emotions? :mgagged

I'm guessing heart as in trance music touches your heart. Builds tension in your chest, a lot more emotional. House for the soul I would say is more of a "feel good" vibe - not an emotion just a vibe. Kinda just makes you want to move a little bit - doesn't lift you up. Although house doesn't make me feel good at all. Lol.

perfectodub 11th April 2011 07:45 PM

Personally i think music for dance have nothing to do with emotional things or heart, i love the conection
of the dance music with the impulse the sensuality
the physical passion and atraction like tribals, that the reason that i love the house,it make feel sexy

Zeke. 11th April 2011 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by perfectodub (Post 2665970)
Personally i think music for dance have nothing to do with emotional things or heart, i love the conection
of the dance music with the impulse the sensuality
the physical passion and atraction like tribals, that the reason that i love the house,it make feel sexy

You couldn't be more wrong with that statement. NOTHING to do with emotion? I have to admit I am actually angered by that comment and offended, even though I am sure you did not mean for it to come across that way. But there is no doubt that trance is one of THE MOST (if not THE MOST) emotional types of music out there.

I understand if you meant to put that statement toward house music (exactly why I don't like house - no emotion), but as far as electronic dance music in general you have it all wrong. Trance can be sexy too - in fact, eerie, sexy, bad ass trance is my favorite kind!


You can't tell me that track is not sexy - the way it enters at 1:40 and creeps in at 1:49, then the beat kicks in shortly after. This song was originally mistagged as "Embrace Yourself" when I first heard it and I am not lying, I got aroused listening to it. Lol!

I could post a lot of emotional trance songs, some of the most emotional having no words at all and I feel those are the most powerful in terms of expressing emotion - when it does it so well with melody and production alone.

hsienko 11th April 2011 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy (Post 2665929)
I like acoustic versions, but acoustic orchestra? You never know what's coming...

These are some songs I don't understand why make AC/ORC versions:

01. WHATEVER (Arranged by CMJK)
- if the tempo is the same as in the original, I can only see a chatastrophy ahead. This song is not supposed to be acoustic.

04. kanariya (Arranged by Yuta Nakano)
- if not with new vocal, I can't listen to it. The song is nice and I love the PV but Ayu sounds terrible.

06. NEVER EVER (Arranged by Akimitsu Homma)
- No no whyyyyyyy >:< I still have traumas from the ayu-mi-x 4 Acoustic Version

09. evolution (Arranged by Yuta Nakano)
- if it's like in Asia Tour 2007 then gimme!!!! :love

11. You were... (Arranged by CMJK)
- the ONLY "new" song and pretty much the worst choice :eviltongu

Wanted to share my opinion
9 days left <3

Yes. These are all horrible choices for AO, they should have choose songs better suited for AO like Virgin Road, Free & Easy, Heaven, etc.

Mintkisses 11th April 2011 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2665979)
But there is no doubt that trance is one of THE MOST (if not THE MOST) emotional types of music out there.

I could post a lot of emotional trance songs, some of the most emotional having no words at all and I feel those are the most powerful in terms of expressing emotion - when it does it so well with melody and production alone.

THIS

I am huge techno, trance, electronic, dubstep lover and this comment gave me the chills because it's so true. Trance especially, like you said, is one of the most emotional. I cannot listen and just casually think of repetitive sounds put together so people can dance. The artist is still trying to put out an emotion for their audience to hear. Dubstep is another techno-based genre that is full of emotions. The break downs and low drops literally make my heart skip.

Btw OP, that song you posted was amazzzing! Me and my boyfriend listened to it and was vibing :p

MeltingCORE 11th April 2011 09:54 PM

I am a enormous Trance and EDM fan as well. I highly agree with all.night.raver. How can one listen to Trance and think it doesn't have to "do with the heart or emotional things"? Even if you dislike Trance I still just don't get how one cannot feel the emotion...

Not trying to butt heads or anything, I just wanted to post how I feel to since Trance is my favorite genre. :)

And still waiting... COME ON, LEAK ALREADY!

Picaflor 7/4 11th April 2011 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2665979)

I remember this song. I was gonna make a sparkle mashup with it but I suck at pitch and key and didn't want to ruin it. lol

Zeke. 11th April 2011 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4 (Post 2666016)
I remember this song. I was gonna make a sparkle mashup with it but I suck at pitch and key and didn't want to ruin it. lol

Lol, yep I have posted it a few times since I love it so much! Jochen is a genius - I love his style. He totally would've been perfect to mix Sparkle.


3:54 is epic

love in music 11th April 2011 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hsienko (Post 2665986)
Yes. These are all horrible choices for AO, they should have choose songs better suited for AO like Virgin Road, Free & Easy, Heaven, etc.

HEAVEN is getting an orchestra version :) I'm really looking forward to that one along with You were..., BLUE BIRD, HANABI, and Moments. I'm sure they'll all sound gorgeous with orchestra.

perfectodub 11th April 2011 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2665979)
You couldn't be more wrong with that statement. NOTHING to do with emotion? I have to admit I am actually angered by that comment and offended, even though I am sure you did not mean for it to come across that way. But there is no doubt that trance is one of THE MOST (if not THE MOST) emotional types of music out there.

I understand if you meant to put that statement toward house music (exactly why I don't like house - no emotion), but as far as electronic dance music in general you have it all wrong. Trance can be sexy too - in fact, eerie, sexy, bad ass trance is my favorite kind!


You can't tell me that track is not sexy - the way it enters at 1:40 and creeps in at 1:49, then the beat kicks in shortly after. This song was originally mistagged as "Embrace Yourself" when I first heard it and I am not lying, I got aroused listening to it. Lol!

I could post a lot of emotional trance songs, some of the most emotional having no words at all and I feel those are the most powerful in terms of expressing emotion - when it does it so well with melody and production alone.



i was talking about how the dance music must to be for me.

the trance music is too emotional and sometimes sad, tragic...and thats the reason that i don't like Trance.
at the same time the beat of trance is monotonous.

sometime in the discoteque i dance trance music..and after a while..is boring
..you can't move your body in a sexy way
i love to shake my body, hips, shoulders...but trance is just like
space-old-fashion-futuristic-dance-with-your-self- genre

sometime i think trance is for people that can not dance

i love house because is wild, dark, virile at the same time extravagant

the song of your video is good..but is not the typical trance song
is the same with all the styles...the 70% of the songs of one style is just average...the 30% is the best

this song for me is the house perfection:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUrNufrZm-E
the change of tone in 2:45 is just great

Zeke. 11th April 2011 11:07 PM

^OMG, to each there own but how ghetto and old-school. If anything house is monotonous - trance is usually evolving and building with a changing melody and composition. This song is just like the same part on loop, lol.

perfectodub 11th April 2011 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2666032)
^OMG, to each there own but how ghetto and old-school. If anything house is monotonous - trance is usually evolving and building with a changing melody and composition. This song is just like the same part on loop, lol.

the house music at the same time give you the chance to experiment with a lot of different rythms... but trance is always the same thing,..there is no evolution...when i'm listen trance is like listen robert miles one over again.

Zeke. 11th April 2011 11:16 PM

Trance has evolved so much these days.

bemanicho1 11th April 2011 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2665979)
You couldn't be more wrong with that statement. NOTHING to do with emotion? I have to admit I am actually angered by that comment and offended, even though I am sure you did not mean for it to come across that way. But there is no doubt that trance is one of THE MOST (if not THE MOST) emotional types of music out there.

I understand if you meant to put that statement toward house music (exactly why I don't like house - no emotion), but as far as electronic dance music in general you have it all wrong. Trance can be sexy too - in fact, eerie, sexy, bad ass trance is my favorite kind!


You can't tell me that track is not sexy - the way it enters at 1:40 and creeps in at 1:49, then the beat kicks in shortly after. This song was originally mistagged as "Embrace Yourself" when I first heard it and I am not lying, I got aroused listening to it. Lol!

I could post a lot of emotional trance songs, some of the most emotional having no words at all and I feel those are the most powerful in terms of expressing emotion - when it does it so well with melody and production alone.

While I agree with you that EDM is full of emotions and feeling, I strongly disagree that House doesn't have any emotion. There's plenty of house that has emotion in it, just maybe in a different way than trance.

For example, a lot of Fred Falke's remixes are brimming with emotion, like his remix of One Republic's All The Right Moves. When I hear it, I feel so much joy from it as well as so much other emotions and special feelings that I can't even begin to describe.



Also listen to his remix of Burns - First Move feat. Seb


The melodies and the production has so much sadness and melancholy in them. I feel it speaking straight to my heart.

Here's another very expressive house remix of Kelis - Fireworks by Richard X (for some reason it's pitched up from the normal pitch). It's a very sensual remix full of feeling.


Pieces_of_SEVEN 11th April 2011 11:32 PM

Kelis!

perfectodub 11th April 2011 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bemanicho1 (Post 2666041)
While I agree with you that EDM is full of emotions and feeling, I strongly disagree that House doesn't have any emotion. There's plenty of house that has emotion in it, just maybe in a
different way than trance

yep house have different king of expressions...funk,under,melodic with an emotional touch...
i don't think that House doesn't have any emotion..i just said that trance is too emotional, is like emotional in a melancholic way

house and trance work in different ways...and sometimes don't fits really well on ayumi songs

try to turn a lullaby song like "Voyage" into a House hit..is an impossible work
or listening "boys and girl" trance remix and feel that the vocal track is not ruining the remix is more difficult too

and talking about ayu remixes

i think the japaneses are not good doing dance or trance remixes
maybe ayu have a lot of great trance remixes because almost all the guys into ayu-trance project are europeans
different with her dance/house remixes.... sometimes is very hard try to find just ONE excellent japanese dance/house remix in ayu-mi-x versions
(Daishi Dance, some DMX works and CMJK... that's all)

the best house remixes of ayu are made it by north americans no dubt

Zeke. 12th April 2011 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectodub (Post 2666065)
yep house have different king of expressions...funk,under,melodic with an emotional touch...
i don't think that House doesn't have any emotion..i just said that trance is too emotional, is like emotional in a melancholic way

house and trance work in different ways...and sometimes don't fits really well on ayumi songs

try to turn a lullaby song like "Voyage" into a House hit..is an impossible work
or listening "boys and girl" trance remix and feel that the vocal track is not ruining the remix is more difficult too

and talking about ayu remixes

i think the japaneses are not good doing dance or trance remixes
maybe ayu have a lot of great trance remixes because almost all the guys into ayu-trance project are europeans
different with her dance/house remixes.... sometimes is very hard try to find just ONE excellent japanese dance/house remix in ayu-mi-x versions
(Daishi Dance, some DMX works and CMJK... that's all)

the best house remixes of ayu are made it by north americans no dubt

I agree about trance being melancholic - another reason I love it.
But as far as Japanse not doing good trance - I tend to like their "hyper/energetic" style of trance. I mean, Carols S.T.F Remix, Overhead Champion Remix of Ku's Real Emotion (actually any remix/production by Overhead Champion is amazing), etc. Very good stuff. Japanese trance is a little more cheesy sometimes but I love it.

Examples posted are better house productions - the synth/melody during the choruses sound rather nice but I don't like the songs themselves.


Ignore the first 8 seconds - it was from a mix CD rip and that's not even part of the song. But this is the most amazing song by Overhead Champion!

perfectodub 12th April 2011 05:02 AM

yes, the right word for japanese techno trance is "chessy" like the oposite of "sexy" XD
here in my country that kind of hyper trance music is very related to Dance Games
like DDR or para-para (talking about eurobeat)
and that have a really bad reputation to the general people XD
i think is because sounds very childish.

i have to say that song "overhead champion" sounds like the average-trance song for me
like the base-model of the 80% of the typical trance songs.

the other song that you share "brace yourself" sound more mature, profesional and serious music.

i keep my point...japanese on dance music are not good
their house sounds cheap and their Trance is tasteless

Zeke. 12th April 2011 05:34 AM

Yes I prefer the more mature stuff as well but when I was younger I loved the cheesy stuff so it still holds a place in my heart. Still catchy and fun to listen to now and then. I'm never "too cool" for anything, lol.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 12th April 2011 05:51 AM

^^dude, where can I get that eternity track? I really like it :)

pepper 12th April 2011 06:03 AM



it's happy hardcore, but it's still trance/hardstyle music genre. i freaking adore this track. i would go to heaven if EVEN one track from ayumix 7 trance would be a little close to this!

Zeke. 12th April 2011 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pepper (Post 2666186)


it's happy hardcore, but it's still trance/hardstyle music genre. i freaking adore this track. i would go to heaven if EVEN one track from ayumix 7 trance would be a little close to this!

OMG, UK Hardcore kicks ASS! I wish Ayu would do a hardcore album. Seriously, three days out of the week I run on the treadmill at 7mph and I cannot imagine running to anything else! It gives me so much energy, and drive. It's like a game since my feet are timed with the beat of the music. It's absolutely perfect - if I am not running to the beat I feel I tire out more quickly but when each time my foot touches the ground is also a basshit, I feel so in tune with the music. Therefore, I could not run to anything with a slower pace than hardcore.

I have so many uk hardcore favorites and I even saw S3RL live last year and got to shake his hand! One of these days I will get around to making a thread for trance and uk hardcore suggestions.

I'll upload the Eternity track when I get time this week. Another track by him called "Be The One" is also great.

Keiichi_JPU 12th April 2011 07:29 AM

I love how ya'll are fighting over things that are completely personal. You can't force someone to feel emotions over something, it's all personal.

I personally find trance to be emotional, but Euromix even more so.

Zeke. 12th April 2011 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Keiichi_JPU (Post 2666216)
I love how ya'll are fighting over things that are completely personal. You can't force someone to feel emotions over something, it's all personal.

I personally find trance to be emotional, but Euromix even more so.

I know, it was not my intention to start up this mild argument/discussion but the comment of how dance music has no emotion and that is not the intention really felt like a slap to the face for me. I know it wasn't meant as such but I am very, VERY passionate about electronic dance music - trance being my inspiration for life in general. I felt like I had to stick up for a child and for what I believe in. Trance music is overwhelmingly emotional was the response I got which I could accept much more than the original accusation. Trance speaks to me even when literal speaking is not involved, and that is exactly why I appreciate, respect, and love it so much. :yes

bemanicho1 12th April 2011 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Keiichi_JPU (Post 2666216)
I love how ya'll are fighting over things that are completely personal. You can't force someone to feel emotions over something, it's all personal.

I personally find trance to be emotional, but Euromix even more so.

I don't think anyone here was fighting. :yconfused Just stating why we disagree with other people's opinions...

errikkutrancex 12th April 2011 10:23 AM

-----}"i think the japaneses are not good doing dance or trance remixes"
I really agree ! People, you just have to compare Ayu Trance 1 & Ayu trance 3 : the 1st is mainly made by Eurpean DJs and the 3rd mainly by Japanese or not very famous DJs, and I was really disappoointed about that Ayu Trance3 : hope the 4th will be really nice !! (such a long time waiting for it ! :)

Now, we just have to come back to the topic and no new previews yet of the remixes ???

perfectodub 12th April 2011 10:28 AM

i just want to clear sometime
about "too emosional" VS "not so emotional"
...i was talking about TRANCE vs HOUSE
not TRANCE VS Generic Dance

That is :D
...

Now...i want some leak remixes too!
i made a decision..when the albums are already leaked...im going to listen only the HOUSE cd...and wait for my box arrive to listen the others 4 discs

errikkutrancex 12th April 2011 11:01 AM

---] "i made a decision..when the albums are already leaked...im going to listen only the HOUSE cd...and wait for my box arrive to listen the others 4 discs"

For my part, I think the best is to hear only the non stop mega mix which will provide a good view on the style of the tracks ! I hope Cdjapan will send my box quickly after the release too ! :p

Kanzaki 12th April 2011 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2665889)
Not just vocal trance, trance in general - but yes. I love the epic buildup in trance before the major kick! Trance is so much more emotional and I have such mad respect for producers who can convey such amazing emotion through non-vocal trance tracks especially.

I've read this statement somewhere before:

"Trance is for the heart. House is for the soul."

Hm, Idk about that statement, but that's the beauty of music. We're all a bunch of "feelers" and there's something for all of us to tickle our emotional interest.

About the whole debate that ensued; house does contain lots of emotion, to me. Same goes for trance. But to me they're still different and they stir up different types of emotions in different ways in me. It's kind of hard to explain, but I guess it isn't really important. And oh goodness, there are always going to be those who still insists that trance is dead and emotionless music, which is so untrue.

Keiichi_JPU 12th April 2011 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2666221)
I know, it was not my intention to start up this mild argument/discussion but the comment of how dance music has no emotion and that is not the intention really felt like a slap to the face for me. I know it wasn't meant as such but I am very, VERY passionate about electronic dance music - trance being my inspiration for life in general. I felt like I had to stick up for a child and for what I believe in. Trance music is overwhelmingly emotional was the response I got which I could accept much more than the original accusation. Trance speaks to me even when literal speaking is not involved, and that is exactly why I appreciate, respect, and love it so much. :yes

Oh I completely understand! I don't feel that passionate about trance (Still love it, though!) so it's a bit hard for me to imagine that kind of passion for it, but I guess it'd be the same thing if someone told me like.. "Ew, Hikki's songs are so emotionless and dead", I'd cause an outrage!

Because I definitely know what types of emotions music can create, and how strong they can be. After all, that's why we're all on this forum I can imagine :)

RayJason 12th April 2011 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectodub (Post 2666033)
the house music at the same time give you the chance to experiment with a lot of different rythms... but trance is always the same thing,..there is no evolution...when i'm listen trance is like listen robert miles one over again.

I agree with you D:

Picaflor 7/4 12th April 2011 08:18 PM

trance is better. blah blah blah. house is better. blah blah blah. I'm glad to get both cds worth of remixes. Let's move on.

lumieregrl 12th April 2011 09:09 PM

I don't like trance just because it gives me a headache. XD I'm really hoping the house disc is impressive. *crosses fingers*

RayJason 12th April 2011 09:39 PM

8 DAYS LEFT YESSSS.

perfectodub 12th April 2011 09:45 PM

i hope that avex put some extra (alternative/instrumental/dub/radio) remixes on iTunes

i'm really sorry about the "glitter (K-klub Remix)" gonna keep unrelease...that remix have a lot of potential

bemanicho1 12th April 2011 09:51 PM

I can't believe it's just one more week till the release!!! Time sure flew by.

ownsarai 12th April 2011 09:51 PM

^^I used to have that remix, but I lost it along the way. I loved it and wish I could have it back again.
I cannot wait until we get more songs. I really enjoy the Days "dub" and the Voyage remix is really great. But I need MORE! xD

MeltingCORE 12th April 2011 10:02 PM

Just a random question directed at all.night.raver. I saw your post about UK Hardcore a few pages back. I'm just curious but do you know of the singer LIA? She has a excellent UK Hardcore/Happy Hardcore album series called "enigmatic LIA".

And still waiting. XD Been keeping my mind off it but every time I come on here I remember. Dying for new Ayu Trance, Eurobeat, and House!

pepper 12th April 2011 11:10 PM

Am I the only one here excited mostly about Eurobeat? xD

ayumisrael 12th April 2011 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pepper (Post 2666558)
Am I the only one here excited mostly about Eurobeat? xD

NO! I'm dying to hear it (along with the trance one!) STEP you must be epic sounding :love

Pieces_of_SEVEN 12th April 2011 11:43 PM

LEAK PLEASE WTF
*dies*

Kana×Shin 13th April 2011 12:03 AM

still waiting (; 'д `)!!

gogirlanime 13th April 2011 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectodub (Post 2666532)
i'm really sorry about the "glitter (K-klub Remix)" gonna keep unrelease...that remix have a lot of potential

Huh? Is it not gonna be on the album?

perfectodub 13th April 2011 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gogirlanime (Post 2666627)
Huh? Is it not gonna be on the album?

nop...that remix was made it about 1 year ago by "remix factory"
www.remix-factory.co.uk
is an official dance remix (a mix of techno-trance is just great!).
this ayumix new series was the best oportunity to include this track on the set but that not happened

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jeOfAacUEY

Didz-19 13th April 2011 02:47 AM

Who cares?! At least Ayu's releasing all of her remix (HOUSE,trance,euro,AO) for all of her fans. SO, it's up to you to choose~~no need to compliant~~if she release just one genre of the remix, maybe you guys will say, "I hope she would release *this type of genre* instead of *this type of genre*" Blah blah blah blah!!!

Last but not least, enjoy your ayu-mi-x....well, I will enjoy all of her remix since I bought all of them~~:):):):)

love in music 13th April 2011 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectodub (Post 2666634)
nop...that remix was made it about 1 year ago by "remix factory"
www.remix-factory.co.uk
is an official dance remix (a mix of techno-trance is just great!).
this ayumix new series was the best oportunity to include this track on the set but that not happened

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jeOfAacUEY

Do you happen to know where I can download this in HQ? It's amazing! :luv2

AyuRox 13th April 2011 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pepper (Post 2666558)
Am I the only one here excited mostly about Eurobeat? xD

No! O_o I wanna hear the Eurobeat one more than any of the others.

TeamAyu2004 13th April 2011 04:31 AM

So im confused?? where did that remix come from? because glitter is going to be an ayu-ro-mix.

tokyoxjapanxfan 13th April 2011 05:20 AM

One of the songs I want to hear most is Sunrise eurobeat :heart

perfectodub 13th April 2011 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by love in music (Post 2666648)
Do you happen to know where I can download this in HQ? It's amazing! :luv2

:no .. I've searched during long time a real HQ version of this mix..but nothing.
only Mid-quality files.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2666672)
So im confused?? where did that remix come from? because glitter is going to be an ayu-ro-mix.

the remix is old..was oficially made it three years ago by remix-factory alias K-Klub.
when the remix was leaked in 2008 a lot of fans thought that a new ayu-trance would come soon.
even remix-factory was very exited about remixing an ayumi song acording to they're website...but i think the feelings was gone after avex never release the song.

Zeke. 13th April 2011 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InvaderSTELLAR (Post 2666541)
Just a random question directed at all.night.raver. I saw your post about UK Hardcore a few pages back. I'm just curious but do you know of the singer LIA? She has a excellent UK Hardcore/Happy Hardcore album series called "enigmatic LIA".

And still waiting. XD Been keeping my mind off it but every time I come on here I remember. Dying for new Ayu Trance, Eurobeat, and House!

Yep! I have all her hardcore remix albums! I was going to mention Ayu should do something like what she has done!

pepper 13th April 2011 05:36 AM

It's 13th of April... I want leak right now ;[[[ where is it.. people have this cd's already ;___: xD

perfectodub 13th April 2011 05:47 AM

by the way...here is the glitter (k-klub radio remix) never released remix (medium quality)

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showth...91#post2666691

Keiichi_JPU 13th April 2011 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pepper (Post 2666558)
Am I the only one here excited mostly about Eurobeat? xD

No, count me in! I love Eurobeat!

bemanicho1 13th April 2011 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pepper (Post 2666558)
Am I the only one here excited mostly about Eurobeat? xD

I'm excited for the trance one the most, but I'm also excited about all the other ones, including the Eurobeat one. :)

Zeke. 13th April 2011 09:55 AM

Although trance is my favorite, eurobeat I think is the one that is most likely to not let me down.

errikkutrancex 13th April 2011 10:00 AM

In a way, I am really disappointed by Avex promotional strategy for this "memorial" edition ! All fans are waiting for it since such a long time, and no advertising at all in advance... sales gonna be very law :(

ownsarai 13th April 2011 10:06 AM

I can see why there isn't any promotion. :shrug
They've known it was being released for a while now.

Yukitora 13th April 2011 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by errikkutrancex (Post 2666738)
In a way, I am really disappointed by Avex promotional strategy for this "memorial" edition ! All fans are waiting for it since such a long time, and no advertising at all in advance... sales gonna be very law :(

the sales were always doomed to be law, but somehow i think the media would put a negative spin on it had they advertised it strongly.

*Petit* 13th April 2011 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pepper (Post 2666558)
Am I the only one here excited mostly about Eurobeat? xD

NO!

freedreamer 13th April 2011 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pepper (Post 2666558)
Am I the only one here excited mostly about Eurobeat? xD

NO..I've waited for eurobeat ever since I heard it years ago from the old albums..

roanmy 13th April 2011 11:53 AM

The one I'm looking forward to the most is the eurboeat one as well. =)

JackieRos 13th April 2011 12:52 PM

therapy music lmao oh god

njanjayrp 13th April 2011 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by errikkutrancex (Post 2666738)
In a way, I am really disappointed by Avex promotional strategy for this "memorial" edition ! All fans are waiting for it since such a long time, and no advertising at all in advance... sales gonna be very law :(

All the fans know it's being released, no point wasting tons of money on promoting something that can't possibly sell much better than the previous ayu-mix.

errikkutrancex 13th April 2011 04:18 PM

maybe, but strage to see no CM, no posters, nothing for a 4 new remixes albums at the same time ! (for the Ayumix 6 gold & Silver there were no promotion too, and that was a shame because they are 2 really good albums !)
Avex cannot count only on Ayu fans ! (above all with the economic situation in Japan after the events...)

Kazeyomi 13th April 2011 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by errikkutrancex (Post 2666860)
maybe, but strage to see no CM, no posters, nothing for a 4 new remixes albums at the same time ! (for the Ayumix 6 gold & Silver there were no promotion too, and that was a shame because they are 2 really good albums !)
Avex cannot count only on Ayu fans ! (above all with the economic situation in Japan after the events...)

Maybe they won't take a risk. Remixes are not so big anymore, like during 90s and early 00s.
I mean, for casual listeners. Fans will buy it anyway.

Kana×Shin 13th April 2011 04:54 PM

1 week left and we still don't have it?(´Д` )

Aderianu 13th April 2011 06:02 PM

MOON from trance up at ayuchina

pride123 13th April 2011 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 2666894)
MOON from trance up at ayuchina

So is anyone gonna get it from there and post it here? :dead2

Aderianu 13th April 2011 06:26 PM

MOON http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2666907

TeamAyu2004 13th April 2011 06:28 PM

I dont like the fact that they havent done much advertising for this either, but thats cool.
I think the people that want it will know about it and they will sell exta copys to others that buy them,

Ha! cant wait for this!!

Aderianu 13th April 2011 06:34 PM

01. Far away (Alex M.O.R.P.H. Extended rmx)
02. MOON (Clokx remix)
03. SEASONS (John O'Callaghan remix)
04. Days (Aly & Fila remix)
05. poker face (Ronald Van Gelderen Extended remix)
07. Rule (Public Domain remix)

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108494

TeamAyu2004 13th April 2011 06:42 PM

^ HOLY CRAP! you added more! Thanks!!


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