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AyuBlackwind 29th February 2012 10:23 PM

WoW....
 
:thud

The covers are surprising, I never thought she do a cover like that. After the shock wore off, it's not terrible, just waaay sexier (raunchier) than I expected. It looks fun. I'm getting the CD only and I actually like that cover the most.

Maybe it's a photo reply to Super Manuel?

orphen 29th February 2012 10:25 PM

does the HOTEL Love songs come with the limited editions too ?

Heavenly 29th February 2012 10:35 PM

In the other thread, there was an hypothesis consistiing of a slipcase around the album, hiding the real covers. But, look at the picture of the boxset :

You can clearly see that on the left of the CD case, there's a caracteristical shadow of an Obi.
Then i'm afraid that there won't be any slipcase, nor any other cover to see :(

Didz-19 29th February 2012 10:43 PM

luckily i didn't bought the limited edition...it was a good idea to buy the album separately...and i got all of the versions ;)

LeeLeeNeko 29th February 2012 10:44 PM

Then again it doesn't have to be a hidden cover, it might also be the pictures inside the booklet.
I think we should just stop making assumptions for now and wait until we get our copies. :laugh

Isicio 29th February 2012 10:44 PM

I don't think they have a slipcase but...i want one ayu pan with the album!!!

Heavenly 29th February 2012 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isicio (Post 2824088)
I don't think they have a slipcase but...i want one ayu pan with the album!!!

An Ayupan in bra would be fun haha :laugh

mi|kshake 29th February 2012 10:47 PM

I'm glad I went for the CD + 2 DVD version rather than CD + DVD as that cover is the only one I don't like. (It's just so boring) And a part of me is kinda loving the trashiness now.

mi|kshake~

Didz-19 29th February 2012 10:52 PM

I check CDJapan just now, it stated that ;

" special case, transparent sleeved special DVD package "

maybe, the CDL is the one with the special case, not the album.

ayuspain 29th February 2012 10:53 PM

the covers are amazing! I don't think they're porn related and I'm not gonna hide them! she's OUR queen :) and everything she does it'll be awesome for me :love

AyuBlackwind 29th February 2012 10:57 PM

^ absolutely.

Kouyou 29th February 2012 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heavenly (Post 2824084)
In the other thread, there was an hypothesis consistiing of a slipcase around the album, hiding the real covers. But, look at the picture of the boxset :

You can clearly see that on the left of the CD case, there's a caracteristical shadow of an Obi.
Then i'm afraid that there won't be any slipcase, nor any other cover to see :(

There's nothing to worry about. I'm sure the booklet will be well done and the covers will make more sense and mean more once we hear the album. Not to mention the fact that you don't really look at the album art all that much when you're listening to her music. Everything will work out in the end. :yes

Amrai-chan 29th February 2012 11:06 PM

With her comments about the covers I wonder if she is lonely?

Kouyou 29th February 2012 11:39 PM

She's wearing a red bracelet (from what I can see) on the album covers. A red bracelet is a symbol of anorexia, worn by people who are "pro-ana" and want other pro-ana people to recognize them. I wonder if she did that on purpose or if it was purely accidental. Not trying to say she has an eating disorder, just saying it might add to the "sad party queen" image she is trying to convey.

love in music 29th February 2012 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 2824115)
She's wearing a red bracelet (from what I can see) on the album covers. A red bracelet is a symbol of anorexia, worn by people who are "pro-ana" and want other pro-ana people to recognize them. I wonder if she did that on purpose or if it was purely accidental. Not trying to say she has an eating disorder, just saying it might add to the "sad party queen" image she is trying to convey.

this made me laugh.
it's the same bracelet that represents TeamAyu i think? i think it's the same one one that she wears all the time. i could be wrong though.

Tom Punks 29th February 2012 11:45 PM

Yeah, the bracelet has nothing to do with anorexia.

LeeLeeNeko 29th February 2012 11:47 PM

Yeah lol, it's just her TeamAyu bracelet she wears all the time. :laugh

stickyrice 29th February 2012 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heavenly (Post 2824084)
In the other thread, there was an hypothesis consistiing of a slipcase around the album, hiding the real covers. But, look at the picture of the boxset :

You can clearly see that on the left of the CD case, there's a caracteristical shadow of an Obi.
Then i'm afraid that there won't be any slipcase, nor any other cover to see :(

There has been releases (not by Ayu) where there was an obi for the slipcase. Who knows. Even if it was in a slipcase, the "real" cover might just reveal an even trashier Ayu haha

adrtwb 1st March 2012 12:07 AM

Kinda disappointed with the covers, the only version i like is the cd only version. Hmm lol

happiholic★ 1st March 2012 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by love in music (Post 2824116)
this made me laugh.
it's the same bracelet that represents TeamAyu i think? i think it's the same one one that she wears all the time. i could be wrong though.

I think you're right.





Even if there is a message behind the covers, they are still no fun to look at. Ayu could have conveyed the message, even in a trashy way, that were still fun to look at. I want something visually simulating, even if its "trashy". And the message/parody thing doesn't make them any more fun to look at, either. It justified the trashiness, but that's not the part that bothers me. I don't hate the covers, but I don't love them.

Kouyou 1st March 2012 12:13 AM

Ha, I feel like an idiot now.

happiholic★ 1st March 2012 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 2824133)
Ha, I feel like an idiot now.

Nah, we all say stupid things and make mistakes, online and otherwise. No need to fret :)

Kouyou 1st March 2012 12:24 AM

^Thanks, happiholic :yatta

AyusakiFan 1st March 2012 12:28 AM

I was in class when I first saw the covers and my initial reaction was pure shock and disbelief. After seeing them, I could hardly concentrate and the only thought that came to my mind was "WTH is she thinking?!". Although I still feel like the covers are uncharacteristic of Ayu and it doesn't suit my personal tastes, I am taking her tweets regarding the cover into consideration as well as trying not to jump to conclusions until I have the album in hand. Between the cover of the CD+2DVD version (the one I'm getting) and Capsule's "Sugarless GiRL" cover, I do think that people who see them are gonna think that I'm starting to acquire a porn collection, lol.

truehappiness 1st March 2012 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heavenly (Post 2824084)
In the other thread, there was an hypothesis consistiing of a slipcase around the album, hiding the real covers. But, look at the picture of the boxset :

You can clearly see that on the left of the CD case, there's a caracteristical shadow of an Obi.
Then i'm afraid that there won't be any slipcase, nor any other cover to see :(

I actually saw that too. However, I wonder if they're the real deal and not mockups inside of the set in the photos.

And if there is no slipcase, then what happened to the shoot in London? It wasn't just for how beautiful you are, right?

TITANIC 1st March 2012 01:04 AM

I guess she's using her body to sell the record again this time? I think it's an improvement from Love Song to Party Queen and honestly I don't really ilke the cover either. she looks too skinny and her lips !@#$%^&*

Damita 1st March 2012 01:06 AM

I enjoy the DVD covers, but the CD's are all...not my thing. I guess I'm sticking with ordering the CD+DVD. It's not like I was expecting anything sophisticated with the title "Party Queen", and the most important thing is still the music, so I look forward to that still! :)

truehappiness 1st March 2012 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TITANIC (Post 2824152)
I guess she's using her body to sell the record again this time? I think it's an improvement from Love Song to Party Queen and honestly I don't really ilke the cover either. she looks too skinny and her lips !@#$%^&*

According to Ayu herself, that's not the message behind the covers.

Though I'm a bit puzzled about why the CD+2DVD pose had to be like that and not... well... anything else?

tasking 1st March 2012 01:12 AM

For those who pointed it out, the bracelet isn't the TA one; in fact, it's not even the red bracelet that people are thinking of. That one looks like this:



And THAT bracelet wasn't originally even for TA. It was a friendship bracelet between Ayu and two of her other friends, and it wasn't until one of them died around the time of RnRC that Ayu made it a TA thing, hence RED LINE ~for TA~.

Anyway, my first initial thought upon seeing the covers was "Oh, wtf? That pic was supposed to be used for the LIFE STYLE book." The gaudiness aside, I felt completely cheated. I then saw Timmy's little outburst. I know he was just sticking up for her but I think this post summed it up pretty nicely:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yumi(e) (Post 2823889)
Oh.God. *facepalm*
We are fans, but this is POP (something commercial), and not everyone goes to look for a double meaning to a pop singer posing in lingerie on all-fours.

I have a feeling that what started out as a simple pet nickname by Timmy or someone (Party Queen) ended up going to her head. For instance, calling Timmy a lesbian was pretty surprising to me; not in the sense that I didn't think she should've said it, but just that she said it at all. Seeing her converse with him period in the way that she does is something I find strange. Maybe because her English needs polishing, but still. Look at that, the lyrics for Party Queen themselves, and finally these covers that were shot over a year ago. It doesn't seem like Ayu to me, but rather Timmy influencing her.

truehappiness 1st March 2012 01:18 AM

Quote:

The bracelet isn't the TA one; in fact, it's not even the red bracelet that people are thinking of. That one looks like this:
The bracelet IS the TeamAyu one, but it's the one that was given away to people who purchased CDL10-11 from the TeamAyu shop. She even has photos of putting it on while in New York!

http://i.imgur.com/HspiO.jpg



The one that you're talking about is the one that she made a promise on with her friends but it came off a while back, I think.

I think there's probably a lot more to the album than a lot of people are letting on and while it may seem like Timmy is 'controlling' Ayu, I highly doubt that is what's going on.

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Look at that, the lyrics for Party Queen themselves, and finally these covers that were shot over a year ago.
Over a year ago? It was September of 2011 when these were shot, and a lot of fans even got to see Ayu at the time.

kendelle 1st March 2012 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tasking (Post 2824157)
I have a feeling that what started out as a simple pet nickname by Timmy or someone (Party Queen) ended up going to her head. For instance, calling Timmy a lesbian was pretty surprising to me; not in the sense that I didn't think she should've said it, but just that she said it at all. Seeing her converse with him period in the way that she does is something I find strange. Maybe because her English needs polishing, but still. Look at that, the lyrics for Party Queen themselves, and finally these covers that were shot over a year ago. It doesn't seem like Ayu to me, but rather Timmy influencing her.

TIMMY, YOU ARE A COMPOSER AND NOT HER MEDIA ADVISER. STOP ACTING LIKE YOU ARE!

If all this whackiness is coming from him, I want him gone yesterday. His condescending nature in his tweets should Eff Off - it's not like there's an obvious meaning in these covers to the majority of fans. Saying stuff like "Does NE1 have any fxxxxxg idea what a PARTY QUEEN is? The irony? The tragedy? The coruscating truth? The lie? The aftermath? The ideal?" just makes him look like a total ass. Go away, Timmy.

ilovekodaa 1st March 2012 01:23 AM

with the cover HOT <3 ....I reminded of this LOL LOL ---->


YUKARI 1st March 2012 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 2824115)
She's wearing a red bracelet (from what I can see) on the album covers. A red bracelet is a symbol of anorexia, worn by people who are "pro-ana" and want other pro-ana people to recognize them. I wonder if she did that on purpose or if it was purely accidental. Not trying to say she has an eating disorder, just saying it might add to the "sad party queen" image she is trying to convey.

lol I didn't know that

douggn 1st March 2012 01:25 AM

and now the hate begins until the hate can begin when the songs are heard :P, I love the covers, their different cant wait to it comes out but I'm glad I didn't get the limited edition though because of the box

kendelle 1st March 2012 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovekodaa (Post 2824167)
with the cover HOT <3 ....I reminded of this LOL LOL ---->


This looks way better than the CD+2DVD one.....lol

They're labelmates - Kuu should've given Ayu tips! :innocent

douggn 1st March 2012 01:34 AM

Still only 4 PV's to the album, I thought they would of added the ones she did unless they are going to do a fly high and kanariya single type of thing

tasking 1st March 2012 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2824163)
The bracelet IS the TeamAyu one, but it's the one that was given away to people who purchased CDL10-11 from the TeamAyu shop. She even has photos of putting it on while in New York!

http://i.imgur.com/HspiO.jpg

The one that you're talking about is the one that she made a promise on with her friends but it came off a while back, I think.

I think there's probably a lot more to the album than a lot of people are letting on and while it may seem like Timmy is 'controlling' Ayu, I highly doubt that is what's going on.



Over a year ago? It was September of 2011 when these were shot, and a lot of fans even got to see Ayu at the time.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that bracelet too! Doh, you're right, my apologies. I do believe that one I mentioned was the basis for the red bracelet now though ;)

Where the heck did I read that these were shot a year ago then? Somebody said it. Oh well, lol

<- taskinidiot, carry on

truehappiness 1st March 2012 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by douggn (Post 2824176)
Still only 4 PV's to the album, I thought they would of added the ones she did unless they are going to do a fly high and kanariya single type of thing

It's really weird too since she said she was working on PVs UNLESS somehow she's already got new material planned for after Party Queen.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 1st March 2012 01:41 AM

perhaps she's already working on a new single or something

happiholic★ 1st March 2012 01:50 AM

What is this about a friend of Ayu's passing away? Were we ever given any info on that?

(I love those pics of Kuu. In a heterosexual way :laugh)

douggn 1st March 2012 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happiholic★ (Post 2824185)
What is this about a friend of Ayu's passing away? Were we ever given any info on that?

(I love those pics of Kuu. In a heterosexual way :laugh)

another ayus friends died :yconfused

SURREAL__RAINBOW 1st March 2012 01:54 AM

I feel like getting the CD only version as it has my favorite cover :P

truehappiness 1st March 2012 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happiholic★ (Post 2824185)
What is this about a friend of Ayu's passing away? Were we ever given any info on that?

(I love those pics of Kuu. In a heterosexual way :laugh)

She had a huge TeamAyu entry about him while he was still sick in 2009 and she updated TA again when he passed on in 2010.

http://www.jpopjrock.com/main-page/2...7-10-2009.html
http://ayusstory.blogspot.com/2010/1...h-october.html

You can read them at these links.

tasking 1st March 2012 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by douggn (Post 2824189)
another ayus friends died :yconfused

Quote:

Originally Posted by happiholic★ (Post 2824185)
What is this about a friend of Ayu's passing away? Were we ever given any info on that?

Around the time of RnRC I think, one of Ayu's friends passed away. He apparently listened to one of the singles before doing so, or perhaps even the album, I forget which. But they all wore this red string as a friendship bracelet, hence RED LINE ~for TA~. She wrote a whole diary entry on it which Deli translated. I'll have to go and dig it up. It was really sad.

EDIT: th beat me to it lol

freedreamer 1st March 2012 02:14 AM

I was busy quoting stuff on the other thread and it has reached the limit so..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Punks (Post 2823646)
So I guess what Ayu's trying to say is that the covers aren't supposed to be straight up trashy to be trashy, they're trashy because they're supposed to portray a party queen who is sad and doesn't want to live that kind of life anymore. Or something.

That kind of explains them, actually. In the CD+DVD cover, she's smiling, but the room is trashed like she got upset and threw everything all over the place. In the CD only cover, she's smiling, but she's holding a tissue as if she were crying into it or something.

That explains why the album was called a concept album, and why it looks like it starts off with only a few party songs and then heads into a ******** of rockish songs. It's probably somewhat a story about a girl who is a party queen and then changes or something lol.

I think Party Queen opening the album to fit this sentiment would then be very important because then the mood of the album would develop. And it really does seem like the mid section of the album feels slightly more angsty in terms of title-ing as compared to the first 3 songs. That said, after seeing what she had to say on tweeter, my interest in the album has gone up many many times. :P

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2823784)
I think we will probably get something completely new. She mentioned that she shot the covers for the album (and that is what she said, ALBUM COVERS) in London so there's a high chance that these are fake-out covers in a way.

That would be really awesome :)

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Originally Posted by LUOYUXIANG (Post 2823783)
Well, I actually believe that you will be satisfied this time, because "how beautiful you are" seems to be the only ballade in this album, apart from an interlude before it.:innocent

Is this official???

Quote:

Originally Posted by toniayu (Post 2823977)
Ayu said that the cover was done in London and also that it was the London version of Love songs

REALLY?!

jkm444 1st March 2012 02:17 AM

I am glad that I pre-ordered the CD+DVD one since that one looks the best.
The Power of Music Cover looks nice! It has been a while since I liked any of her concert DVDs covers. The last one I liked before Power of Music was CDL-09-10.

truehappiness 1st March 2012 02:22 AM

The London thing was for real, but the "London Love songs" thing... I don't remember seeing that anywhere.

Here's what Ayu had to say about the shots back in September. (translated by Misa-chan)
Quote:

Fur~ther~more, we took some photos for this LIFE STYLE BOOK in NY. Some more re~~~ally awesome new stimulating shots by Leslie and I.
They were so awesome we felt like making a separate photobook.

Kazeyomi 1st March 2012 02:49 AM

I'm really confused now :yconfused

truehappiness 1st March 2012 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazeyomi (Post 2824229)
I'm really confused now :yconfused

What are you confused about?

happiholic★ 1st March 2012 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2824196)
She had a huge TeamAyu entry about him while he was still sick in 2009 and she updated TA again when he passed on in 2010.

http://www.jpopjrock.com/main-page/2...7-10-2009.html
http://ayusstory.blogspot.com/2010/1...h-october.html

You can read them at these links.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tasking (Post 2824202)
Around the time of RnRC I think, one of Ayu's friends passed away. He apparently listened to one of the singles before doing so, or perhaps even the album, I forget which. But they all wore this red string as a friendship bracelet, hence RED LINE ~for TA~. She wrote a whole diary entry on it which Deli translated. I'll have to go and dig it up. It was really sad.

EDIT: th beat me to it lol

Ah, thanks guys! So, he was an old friend of Ayu's? And the two of them, plus one other woman were best friends? Does she ever talk about their relationship beyond these posts?

SheFliesHigher 1st March 2012 04:28 AM

Party Queen covers are terrible. I'm sure she's being honest in her intention to show a "sad" tabloid party queen, but no one would pick that up from looking at those covers. There's not a single sad looking element to be found.

Big LOLs and GTFOs to Timmy for his tweet about "why can't anyone understand the DEEP, SOUL-CRUSHINGLY ARTISTIC value of Ayu bent over like a dog in her panties? WHYYYYY???!! You're all soooOOOoooOOooo superficial!" Maybe if her face looked a little pained, or her makeup was runny, or she had tears in her eyes, or SOMETHING, we could believe the story. But Ayu just looks like any other tabloid chick having fun. Nothin' sad about it.

Hanabi_surreal 1st March 2012 04:30 AM

she needs a good designer... that's all. That tabloid idea can look better with a good design... sorry, I won't get the CD+3DVD sorry, I just... can't... (and no, is not for the picture)

NintendoHTF1242 1st March 2012 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SheFliesHigher (Post 2824291)
Party Queen covers are terrible. I'm sure she's being honest in her intention to show a "sad" tabloid party queen, but no one would pick that up from looking at those covers. There's not a single sad looking element to be found.

Big LOLs and GTFOs to Timmy for his tweet about "why can't anyone understand the DEEP, SOUL-CRUSHINGLY ARTISTIC value of Ayu bent over like a dog in her panties? WHYYYYY???!! You're all soooOOOoooOOooo superficial!" Maybe if her face looked a little pained, or her makeup was runny, or she had tears in her eyes, or SOMETHING, we could believe the story. But Ayu just looks like any other tabloid chick having fun. Nothin' sad about it.

This made my night. Laughed a little too hard.

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 1st March 2012 04:47 AM

I wanted to marry Timmy, but he can GTFO. He's the Trolliane Gibson to Ayu's Lady Gaga.

microphone 1st March 2012 04:48 AM

Is there any update on composers / arrangers? Timmy seems to be great at composing dance music. BRILLANTE was mediocre to me. I hope he composed more dance tracks for this album.

truehappiness 1st March 2012 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by microphone (Post 2824301)
Is there any update on composers / arrangers? Timmy seems to be great at composing dance music. BRILLANTE was mediocre to me. I hope he composed more dance tracks for this album.

Nope, we just know that the people working on the album were CMJK, tasuku, Yuta Nakano, and Timmy.

Also it appears that Ayu tweeted that Leslie did not shoot these covers... his assistant Ryan Chan aka nootak on Twitter did. However, Leslie Kee is credited for the shot that was used for ViVi. I wonder if Ryan's shots are being used under Leslie's name?

http://i.imgur.com/Y77wH.jpg

adantatu2 1st March 2012 04:54 AM

I thought she shoot the covers out of the studio, and i thought we could get at least 1 more pv ToT. I like the photos, but they are good for a magazine, not for an album cover.And ayu can show her body, but honestly, it looks cheap and not epic like Koda and her JAPONESQUE.

Anyway, the most important thing is the music :)

RayJason 1st March 2012 04:56 AM

http://i.imgur.com/CZKuD.png

I don't know how, but 24 hours ago I absolutely HATED this, and now I LOVE it! o m g freaky brainwash :mshock

(offtopic, I hate my current initiate .....). ^ lol get koda out of this thread prease!

Zeke. 1st March 2012 05:05 AM

Off-topic but I hate the GTFO, DIAF, ABCD, LMNOP's poppin' up left and right almost as much as I hate talklikethisokthxbye.

LeeLeeNeko 1st March 2012 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2824302)
Also it appears that Ayu tweeted that Leslie did not shoot these covers... his assistant Ryan Chan aka nootak on Twitter did. However, Leslie Kee is credited for the shot that was used for ViVi. I wonder if Ryan's shots are being used under Leslie's name?

As if it wasn't complicated enough already. :laugh

elvis810 1st March 2012 05:06 AM

i didn't want to buy the album at first but now that the covers are out i want them so badly! i agree the magazine tabloid idea needs better execution but she still looks gorgeous.

thank god she didn't pull a pink hair cover or i will puke!

microphone 1st March 2012 05:12 AM

Yuta Nakano? Well, this can only mean good things. (I'm being optimistic.)
I'm bummed Tetsuya Yukimi is not participating, however.

truehappiness 1st March 2012 05:15 AM

There's a possibility he did a song and didn't go on the trip to London with everyone else as last time he wasn't in London (I think) and he did meaning of Love/Last Links/count down.

tokyoxjapanxfan 1st March 2012 05:48 AM

Ohhhh so... maybe... the reason the separate photobook is being released is because the cover in fact only represents the outside of the album. and really, there's a cover from the London shoot underneath and within the lyric booklet, so there aren't any of the Party Queen shots in the album...

Meh. Over thinking.

Calico 1st March 2012 05:50 AM

I actually love the covers. But I'll avoid my reasons. :laugh

RE: to the previous topic and feminism vs. objectification - there are perfectly good arguments for either side in this case (Although I believe Ayu is quite knowledgeable in this area and knows what she's doing) but regardless, when words like "****ty" and "trashy" and "w****" and any other word commonly used to bring women and their sexuality down is used, you (general) pretty much lose most if not all your credibility. Sadly it's something I'm really used to in this forum after all my years of being here.

My fave cover is the CD only one, but of course that's the one I WON'T get :laugh I was thinking of just getting CD+DVD to save money but now I may just splurge for the CDL one since I like that cover more.

Aderianu 1st March 2012 05:57 AM

now I notice obi at the picture =(
but maybe cover on booklet will be different?

Lady~Deviance 1st March 2012 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 2824310)
Off-topic but I hate the GTFO, DIAF, ABCD, LMNOP's poppin' up left and right almost as much as I hate talklikethisokthxbye.

I literally almost fell off of my bed reading this. Too funny! :yes



I feel bad for ayu. Like I mentioned in the other thread, according to a few Japanese friends of mine, folks over in Japan are not thrilled with the covers and are bashing her relentlessly. For her sake I hope the "Sad Party Queen" underlying theme works in her favor because not many people are catching on apparently. :innocent

truehappiness 1st March 2012 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 2824331)
now I notice obi at the picture =(
but maybe cover on booklet will be different?

That darn OBI! I still wonder if those are actual samples in the box or if they're just mockups made as placeholders.

I hope we get some nice interviews about the album so she can elaborate further than she did on Twitter.

Quote:

according to a few Japanese friends of mine, folks over in Japan are not thrilled with the covers and are bashing her relentlessly.
That's not at all the reaction I've seen on blogs and BBSes. The reaction from what I've looked at is rather positive and much less panicky than what I've seen here. They call the covers 'cool' or 'cute'. They're 'good' to some people, but they're concerned because she's so skinny on the cover. People seem to be saying that the cover is more natural than they were expecting. Japanese fans were sort of expecting more makeup and a super 80s-ish cover.

Can anyone gauge the reaction over at mixi? At ameblo/a mobile BBS, it's pretty much "The covers are good!".

http://www.rankbank.net/amaran/histo...sin=B0073ZX0UM

After the covers released, the CD+2DVD version went up 20 places or so at Amazon.jp.

elvis810 1st March 2012 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2824334)
Can anyone gauge the reaction over at mixi? At ameblo/a mobile BBS, it's pretty much "The covers are good!".

Because they are!

TeamAyu2004 1st March 2012 06:08 AM

i dont think there is anything wrong with them...
They are not her best covers, but you really can only have one best... lol
I like them!
(I think the DVD covers and much much better... i love where it looks like she is reading a book!)

Kanzaki 1st March 2012 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady~Deviance (Post 2824332)
I feel bad for ayu. Like I mentioned in the other thread, according to a few Japanese friends of mine, folks over in Japan are not thrilled with the covers and are bashing her relentlessly. For her sake I hope the "Sad Party Queen" underlying theme works in her favor because not many people are catching on apparently. :innocent

Why can't people ever just stop at "not liking something" and just take it to an unnecessary next level of "you suck". :thud Just keep your stupid opinions to yourself if you don't have some nice way of putting it, talking to someone who put work into doing them.

SunshineSlayer 1st March 2012 06:36 AM

If ayu ends up having some kind of secret covers that explain this albums theme then I might like it. But as it is, if you have to explain your concept on twitter, then obviously your concept was not executed well. I don't appreciate Timmy's post either. It's not the fans fault they can't see it when there is basically nothing in the photos themselves to support it.

SummonerXI 1st March 2012 06:39 AM

I don't get why people are so up in arms about the covers. 1. No need to shame Ayu for expressing her sexuality. 2. The photos are part of a theme. There is a sexual aspect to partying, which is what the album is about for the most part.

There are many sides to Ayu and this is just one of them. I think it's silly (and slightly misogynistic) of people to say she's lost her dignity because she's being sexual in this covers.

Coelacanth 1st March 2012 06:49 AM

I mean, the barcode and bizarre "new album" sticker in the bottom corner still clearly allude to the covers as being a cover of a magazine. It could have been done a whole lot better, though.

SunshineSlayer 1st March 2012 06:52 AM

That I got right away at first look. It's the supposed SAD party queen aspect that didn't come across.

emi♡ 1st March 2012 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2824343)
If ayu ends up having some kind of secret covers that explain this albums theme then I might like it. But as it is, if you have to explain your concept on twitter, then obviously your concept was not executed well. I don't appreciate Timmy's post either. It's not the fans fault they can't see it when there is basically nothing in the photos themselves to support it.

+32546846546351654

I like the covers, but the execution is crap.

Maemi 1st March 2012 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2824343)
If ayu ends up having some kind of secret covers that explain this albums theme then I might like it. But as it is, if you have to explain your concept on twitter, then obviously your concept was not executed well. I don't appreciate Timmy's post either. It's not the fans fault they can't see it when there is basically nothing in the photos themselves to support it.

:yes :yes :yes

njanjayrp 1st March 2012 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady~Deviance (Post 2824332)
I literally almost fell off of my bed reading this. Too funny! :yes



I feel bad for ayu. Like I mentioned in the other thread, according to a few Japanese friends of mine, folks over in Japan are not thrilled with the covers and are bashing her relentlessly. For her sake I hope the "Sad Party Queen" underlying theme works in her favor because not many people are catching on apparently. :innocent

With no actual proof it's kinda hard to believe a word you're saying... I usually find that Japanese people who don't listen to her/not like her don't really want to talk about her, as far as the people on the internet go...they bash just about everything and it doesn't matter as they are never the ones buying her albums.


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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2824347)
That I got right away at first look. It's the supposed SAD party queen aspect that didn't come across.

I didn't really get that either. She doesn't look happy on the covers, but not particularly sad either. I am hoping this is just these are just the slipcase covers and that there'll be something different inside that will actually make the concept a little more obvious.

jewelbox 1st March 2012 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2824343)
If ayu ends up having some kind of secret covers that explain this albums theme then I might like it. But as it is, if you have to explain your concept on twitter, then obviously your concept was not executed well. I don't appreciate Timmy's post either. It's not the fans fault they can't see it when there is basically nothing in the photos themselves to support it.

THIS. I don't like Timmy "shouting" to fans, at the end of the day she can always kick him out of her life and career but she would be nothing without her fans lol. And I think criticism from fans should be taken seriously and under consideration, but this is Ayu so. :D

truehappiness 1st March 2012 07:07 AM

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And I think criticism from fans should be taken seriously and under consideration, but this is Ayu so.
I actually don't think fans' opinions should factor into artists' work. It just varies way too much from person to person and it doesn't seem right in my opinion for any artist to not follow their gut just because some fans don't feel the same way. At the end of the day as a fan, you're going to like what you like and dislike what you dislike. Ayu probably listens to and internalizes most criticism handed to her, but I doubt that she ever changes her mind because of it.

I do wonder what caused Timmy to explode like that though... what did he read and where did he go to see the comments?

Didz-19 1st March 2012 07:18 AM

I really like the covers....although at first, i was against it...after awhile, I love it!!! It's kinda funny too...but as usual, Ayu always have something else in mind~~

So now the covers were released, is there anything we gonna talk about? :)

setsuka 1st March 2012 07:19 AM

I just read his tweets, he said he was possibly drinking XD

anyway IA on the fans thing
also IA on the vague concept

even I though I love the concept,I wish the album was just about partying ~*~*~*
and not sad stuff...I hope it doesn't spill into the music too much

also I have a feeling maybe all the pvs will be connected like a storyline in some way

truehappiness 1st March 2012 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Didz-19 (Post 2824360)
I really like the covers....although at first, i was against it...after awhile, I love it!!! It's kinda funny too...but as usual, Ayu always have something else in mind~~

So now the covers were released, is there anything we gonna talk about? :)

We can look forward to the TeamAyu preview in a little over a week! I hope some of the TeamAyu members here can go.

There's also some filming she's been doing lately that's rather mysterious. Did she film new PVs or what? I'm pretty sure she said something about doing castings for a new PV that was filmed a few days later and Masashi Muto also mentioned doing a new PV with Ayu a week after that.

It's interesting that Ayu brought up Duty when asked about the covers but I wonder if there's actually supposed to be a connection. Is she trapped in some way in these covers?

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-after the "YELLING AT FANS"-
I may have been drinking last night. Possibly. Xxx

Sorry if I offended anyone last nite. Never let anyone near a keyboard when drunk lol

--timwellard
Oh Timmy. Never change.

happiholic★ 1st March 2012 07:34 AM

I dunno, he was typing awfully coherently for someone who was supposedly drunk. I think he's trying to cover his butt. I'm not even mad at what he said in the first place, I just don't believe him.

2Hurt 1st March 2012 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2824362)
It's interesting that Ayu brought up Duty when asked about the covers but I wonder if there's actually supposed to be a connection. Is she trapped in some way in these covers?

I guess in Duty she's in a cage, trying to break out and dressed as a leopard... so in a way she's trapped like an animal maybe? As for Party Queen maybe she feels trapped in the life she's living... or by the media..
I'm not good at these things though, I'd like to read what other people think~

About Timmy... I never liked him, but he must do what he pleases. Doing such thing on twitter though is not a smart move imo.

xLuna&1LOVE 1st March 2012 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by happiholic★ (Post 2824365)
I dunno, he was typing awfully coherently for someone who was supposedly drunk. I think he's trying to cover his butt. I'm not even mad at what he said in the first place, I just don't believe him.

Do not fear: you are not alone. Those are my thoughts exactly.

emi♡ 1st March 2012 07:44 AM

Like it's a good excuse anyway :laugh

everlastingRAINBOW 1st March 2012 08:13 AM

The title really need to be changed to "Drama Queen" because the fans, Ayu, and Timmy are all really emotional right now apparently :laugh

Andrenekoi 1st March 2012 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2824343)
If ayu ends up having some kind of secret covers that explain this albums theme then I might like it. But as it is, if you have to explain your concept on twitter, then obviously your concept was not executed well. I don't appreciate Timmy's post either. It's not the fans fault they can't see it when there is basically nothing in the photos themselves to support it.

isthisLOL can confirm we pretty much got the sad feeling of the overall release BEFORE she talked about it.
It's not rocket science, the tracklist pretty much goes from partyish (Party queen) to conforting someone with a bad self-esteem (how beautiful you are).

The thing is... this is an music album, not a photobook, and far worst, according to Ayu, a concept album. If the cover on itself give us everything the lyrics will also do, the overall work will pretty much be redundant and we don't need the music at all.

The concept, the "story" she is trying to tell must come into the music, not on the covers... Even because the overall tone of the release gets a lot more powerful if the covers takes u to one direction and after listening to the music, it makes u look at the cover on the opposite way.

People can like or dislike the covers for whatever the reason they do, still, I do believe we should wait and take a look on the whole thing before judging if it's worked or didn't work at all.


I also hopes there isn't another cover... If some people can figure out what is the album talking about just looking at the cover and the tracklist, the concept is well executed enough... no needing to so obvious.

Mirrorcle Monster 1st March 2012 08:20 AM

So, will we have only 4 PVs or more??

happiholic★ 1st March 2012 08:25 AM

I don't need to wait for the full album to be released to know that I don't like her hair on the covers. :laugh Concepts, well executed or not, put aside, her hair looks like she used too much hair gel or something. And why is she holding a shoe in one of the shots? Its just small details like that lead me to not love the covers.

everlastingRAINBOW 1st March 2012 08:28 AM

I just need something a bit less trashy. They're not terrible, I just wish for something a little more classy and whimsical. Love Songs was kind of boring, and these are too extreme. I need a nice, safe middle xD

ExodusUK 1st March 2012 08:30 AM

lol i can't at people being all "there is so much sexism in the world and someone like ayu goes and does a shoot like this". Ayu has been what people would consider "trashy" all the way since the loveppears shoot when she had her titties hanging out, not to mention the unite! cover, the duty cover, rainbow cover, sparkle pv, my story covers are pretty trashy too, etc. You can't put Ayu just in one box..

everlastingRAINBOW 1st March 2012 08:31 AM

The Rainbow cover trashy? Girl, you're smoking some good crack! :laugh

Rainbow is calm, demure, and peaceful, and this looks like Ayu got crunk and ripped a hotel apart. And all of a sudden the Hotel Love Songs theme makes sense...

ExodusUK 1st March 2012 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by everlastingRAINBOW (Post 2824384)
The Rainbow cover trashy? Girl, you're smoking some good crack! :laugh

She's naked on the cover...I mean maybe not trashy but it is kinda tacky...looking back now. Ayu hasn't exactly been a nun up to this point.

Ayu could be like a nun..Ayu could be having fun..in order to upset AHSSSS...

Kanzaki 1st March 2012 08:34 AM

Half-naked or not, the pictures just suck. I don't think they look good. I'd rather have seen her completely nude, if at least the pics has been prettier/nicer/better.

everlastingRAINBOW 1st March 2012 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ExodusUK (Post 2824385)
Ayu could be like a nun..Ayu could be having fun..in order to upset AHSSSS...

:laugh

I do feel she is trolling us though. Her devout foreign fans are always super opinionated!

MissElin_ 1st March 2012 08:37 AM

@happiholic
Lol. I agree. It's feels a tad random the whole thing.

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2824343)
If ayu ends up having some kind of secret covers that explain this albums theme then I might like it. But as it is, if you have to explain your concept on twitter, then obviously your concept was not executed well. I don't appreciate Timmy's post either. It's not the fans fault they can't see it when there is basically nothing in the photos themselves to support it.

:yes

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2824356)
I actually don't think fans' opinions should factor into artists' work. It just varies way too much from person to person and it doesn't seem right in my opinion for any artist to not follow their gut just because some fans don't feel the same way. At the end of the day as a fan, you're going to like what you like and dislike what you dislike. Ayu probably listens to and internalizes most criticism handed to her, but I doubt that she ever changes her mind because of it.

I do wonder what caused Timmy to explode like that though... what did he read and where did he go to see the comments?

Although I get what you mean I think that fans shouldn't be underestimated. There are alot of great ideas within them. Just look at all the fake covers people make in here. They very often have great concepts that are very well executed.

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Originally Posted by happiholic★ (Post 2824365)
I dunno, he was typing awfully coherently for someone who was supposedly drunk. I think he's trying to cover his butt. I'm not even mad at what he said in the first place, I just don't believe him.

:yes

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Originally Posted by emi♡ (Post 2824369)
Like it's a good excuse anyway :laugh

:yes

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2824379)
isthisLOL can confirm we pretty much got the sad feeling of the overall release BEFORE she talked about it.
It's not rocket science,
the tracklist pretty much goes from partyish (Party queen) to conforting someone with a bad self-esteem (how beautiful you are).

The thing is... this is an music album, not a photobook, and far worst, according to Ayu, a concept album. If the cover on itself give us everything the lyrics will also do, the overall work will pretty much be redundant and we don't need the music at all.

The concept, the "story" she is trying to tell must come into the music, not on the covers... Even because the overall tone of the release gets a lot more powerful if the covers takes u to one direction and after listening to the music, it makes u look at the cover on the opposite way.

People can like or dislike the covers for whatever the reason they do, still, I do believe we should wait and take a look on the whole thing before judging if it's worked or didn't work at all.

I also hopes there isn't another cover... If some people can figure out what is the album talking about just looking at the cover and the tracklist, the concept is well executed enough... no needing to so obvious.

It's great for you guys (and some other guys) who got the sad idea without having Ayu explain it. Really lovely for you. I applaud you.

But as you might have noticed alot of people really didn't get that idea from the beginning. And some people (inkluding me) still finds it hard to see that sadness since - to them - the idea is poorly executed. Does that make us more stupid than you guys? Since there is so many people thinking like this, maybe there is some truth behind it? That maybe the idea don't come across as obvious to everyone as it did for you. Hell, not even the marjority saw that.

Now people respect the covers more since Ayu explained them but as Sunshineslayer said - the execution failed a bit leading to alot of people who didn't understand her initial thoughts and concept.

Also, I will never understand that sad/caged/party queen in the CD+DVD+DVD cover. I really can't. And the other two covers are just random and loopy.

Andrenekoi 1st March 2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ExodusUK (Post 2824385)
She's naked on the cover...I mean maybe not trashy but it is kinda tacky...looking back now. Ayu hasn't exactly been a nun up to this point.

Ayu could be like a nun..Ayu could be having fun..in order to upset AHSSSS...

I would love RAINBOW's cover if it wasn't for Ayu's scared pufferfish expression :P


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Originally Posted by MissElin_ (Post 2824388)
It's great for you guys (and some other guys) who got the sad idea without having Ayu explain it. Really lovely for you. I applaud you.

But as you might have noticed alot of people really didn't get that idea from the beginning. And some people (inkluding me) still finds it hard to see that sadness since - to them - the idea is poorly executed. Does that make us more stupid than you guys? Since there is so many people thinking like this, maybe there is some truth behind it? That maybe the idea don't come across as obvious to everyone as it did for you. Hell, not even the marjority saw that.

Now people respect the covers more since Ayu explained them but as Sunshineslayer said - the execution failed a bit leading to alot of people who didn't understand her initial thoughts and concept.

Also, I will never understand that sad/caged/party queen in the CD+DVD+DVD cover. I really can't. And the other two covers are just random and loopy.

No need for all this sarcasm darling, I'm not calling u dumb (you don't know, you don't know, how beautiful you are :P). I'm just saying people are expecting the whole concept to be exposed on the cover, and ignoring this is a music album, so, the music has a bigger role on the execution of the project that the cover or any other photo ever will...

everlastingRAINBOW 1st March 2012 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2824389)
I would love RAINBOW's cover if it wasn't for Ayu's scared pufferfish expression :P

I bet it's because she's lonely xD





Anyway, I know somewhere down the road she'll release worse covers. And we'll all think back to Party Queen and realize the covers weren't so bad :laugh. I am really excited for this album, if she delivers at least one epic rock song (my guess is "Return Road") I'll be happy! I want something like "Microphone" <3


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