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this time.. after first I didn't care for it, but it works, really really well. |
Still didn't listen to it yet.
But there are many good reviews for again and I'm happy for that. |
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evolution (evolution single) Heartplace (on ayu-mi-x 5 nonstop mega mix) Rule (on Rule/Sparkle) M (ayu-mi-x 7 HOUSE) monochrome (ayu-mi-x 7 presents ayu trance 4) |
Honestly, I loved the entire album. It's better than LOVE. It doesn't have any fillers in it at all. Really impressed with it. I also liked the Melody orchestra version a lot, when I hated the original. Love when that happens!
Also, good dubstep is awesome. There's some crap out there that's for sure.. but I think ayu has worked with some really talented people. Her dubstep mixes are great. |
Melody got the piano mix and it didnt help for me.
Its still completely boring and totally skipable. |
The original version of melody is the best
It somehow has become my no1 played Ayu song.... wut |
^ ew, what happened? lol :p
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^ I obsessed over it
Maybe it's cuz I hated it so much and the saying goes 'if you make fun of someone, you like them' so maybe I really liked melody... IT SURPASSED FAIRLYAND I JUST CANT I MUST REPLAY FAIRLYAND OVER AND OVER |
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You really played Melody that much? wow. Mad respect right there. I couldn't play it more than 2 times without getting bored. |
^ my other most played?
That would be dearest at 162 plays Then fairyland at 166 Then melody at 176 I don't know why I love melody so much now... But fairyland means MORE to me. They PV symbolism!! |
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reminds me, Return Road, and BRILLANTE :D |
Snowy kiss is currently my most played song.
very sending mail. |
I think it's a LOT better than sending mail. It has so much more going for it.
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1 39,202 EXILE BEST HITS -LOVE SIDE/SOUL SIDE- RZN 12/12/5
EXILE 2 13,111 GREEN GARDEN POP SR 12/12/5 YUI 3 12,829 ORANGE GARDEN POP SR 12/12/5 YUI 4 - again AVT 12/12/8 浜崎あゆみ less than 12k.......... |
Her career is in tatters :(
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Before everyone freaks out it's not the official release. The sales will increase. :yes
4位 9,087 again AVT 12/12/8 滨崎あゆみ |
Well I'm sure that sales will pick up, at least I hope so :P This release is so much better than LOVE but the decrease is too much as for now.
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oh my god
she's ruined |
wonder when will we get the PVs? >.<
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so sad for Ayu and again...
they must they think of new solutions for her career, they can't continue as when she was at its peak! :/ |
Seems like Team Ayu are sick of her antics and gimmicks, what with the report of people cancelling their Team Ayu membership.
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it's too difficult to handle this era and this 15th anniversary as an Ayu fan :thud
honestly im sad and worried for "the throne of the Queen and her reputation" it is sad to see all these now :( |
Her sells decrease because of the lack of promotion ... Avex thinks that she can sell pretty well, just because of the name "ayumi hamasaki" stamped on CD/DVD. But actually it isn't enough, and they don't see it. She could sell a lot, not like in her earlier career, but at least like in MY STORY/(m)u era if they decide to pilot her promotional stuff in a better way...
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LOVE had already impressed me with its sales, and releasing a mini one month after the other in such a competitive week... No wonder why people did not bother giving it much attention if they ever knew it was coming out. I hope they start working better on her next releases, but I highly doubt they'll put some effort on A CLASSIC |:
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It's not only the lack of promo ! it's also the scandal with maro & I'm sure her performance of seasons at FNS that all japanese have find terrible don't help it etc... It's very sad :(
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Honestly, I passed Tower Records today and saw the album in person...
And I just couldn't buy it. It just annoys the hell out of me that he's on the front cover. LOL |
times when a celebrity's music gets overshadowed by other external issues
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I don't care who she puts on the cover, it's the fact that 'again' is being sold as an album even though it's obviously a gloried single (and avex just doesn't want Ayu to lose her streak) annoys me.
But anyhow. I hope snowy kiss' official lyrics will pop up soon~ |
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some people are just moronic,
thats all I have to say. |
If the general public thinks like some here in this forum, I know why she tends to give a ******* to everything. Everything she does, there's a lot of complain.
Sometimes I really think if she should stop her career for a moment or even forever, not for me, I would be endlessly sad, but for her sake. |
omg, people are being dramatic in here.
seriously, the lady has been around 15 years, she can't remain number one forever. i see her like musicians in the west like madonnna, cher, etc...who are legends, but not necessarily on top with every release. |
I like again more than LOVE. But still, to make it a mini album.....they could have released LOVE and again together and then called that a mini album, but this is just like a single. I don't think it is a good idea and a bad deal in these days where a lot of people struggle financially.
About Maro & Ayu....I just don't care anymore. I lost interest in Ayu PVs a few years ago, when I watched them once and forgot about them. They are just boring and useless nowadays. I wish her all the best. But honestly some of the decisions she made careerwise/private in the last 2 years were just stupid. But then I'm not as emotionally invested as I was before. These rumours about people leaving TA, I want proof. It is not like they publish lists about the people who don't renew their membership. You cannot leave TA your membership runs out. |
Dang..
Am I one of few people who doesn't care about this fiasco? sure I DON'T wanna see maro on the cover... But at least wake me up is redemption. This was a weird year for me to become a fan lol. I always seem to become a fan when the artist starts flopping a lot more than before (Ayu, Angela Aki, even koda kumi) |
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I think the 'fans' that let maro get in the way are just asking for trouble. lol
Ayumi has never been shy about her feelings, and putting a MODEL on her cover is hardly anything new (granted she hasnt done it very often, but it happens). The fact is we just KNOW who it is and that she is dating him. Oh HEAVEN forbid she brings her personal life to work, lets shun her and tell her how we feel so that she'll do what WE want. I'm bitter. Just a bit. lol. |
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So let me ask...
WHO is that guy on the H single cover? |
^^ lol... that could be part of it.
I really think people just have control issues. They see a product because that technically what she is, and when we buy products, they are ours and we get to control them... but when it comes to entertainment the product line kinda blurs because we are dealing with people so its hard to separate yourself from that part of it. i thought Ayumi did it beautifully during the A Best to My story eras... (from product to person anyways) @DnB... I think its just a model... Now if it was her boyfriend at the time (whatever his name was), I wonder how the fans would have reacted.. lol |
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^i'm really confused about this PV with the other guy in it. love triangle? :lech
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which PV is that?
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perhaps the its a reunion with the guy on H and Ayu and Maro...EVERYTHING IS COMING FULL CIRCLE NOW
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the short PV's have been posted!
the gif is from Wake me up! and its the guy (hottie) from the picture that was posted a few weeks ago! |
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^ I think i get the connection everyone was talking about
even in snowy kiss they use footage from You and Me... lol it looks like Maro and Ayumi have BROKEN UP!! it was in a PV, so its official and everything. =) :yes lol |
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i want some more abstract PVs from ayu... |
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It's like she's just saying these set sentences to keep the public at peace for a few minutes. It's way too in your face. I feel like if I buy this single, I'm condoning this... that Maro has been given the spotlight just because he's her boyfriend. What about Shu-ya, Jin, or Kazuma, who have worked equally hard and deserve the spotlight too? And honestly you guys, most Japanese fans are feeling the same way I am feeling. The culture is built in a way so that even if a singer or whatever has a boyfriend or husband, you rarely ever see them. It's just for the same reason that PDA is really frowned upon... you have to consider other people's feelings. Sorry if you can't agree with this, but Ayu is Japanese and she was born and raised in this culture... so she should take caution and realize what's going to happen. And I have absolutely no problem with models being on the front cover, side cover, back cover, whatever cover. As long as she keeps everything professional. She knew 100% this would cause an uproar if anyone found out Maro was her boyfriend (Yeah, I remember she said that everything happened in the wrong order, blah blah), so honestly the blame is on her. Quote:
You caught me. I'm secretly lesbian and I hope she marries me and ditches Maro, because I can't live without her singing her songs about me for me. |
^oh, so all those songs were about you? wow, ayu's career really makes sense to me now! :yes
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So this dude Maro was in a marriage, it didn't work out, and Ayu and him are getting it on. Well, life happens. Why do fans expect everything to be so cookie-cutter and Ayu to be this kind of figure who makes no mistakes? Yet she always has these lyrics referring to "sins" she's committed and how she's "hurt other people" - What does that mean? But I guess that's OK, as long as she's not too specific about what's going on in her personal life, right? So it's like we all acknowledge that she isn't perfect and is only human like everybody else, but if any specific event is publicized, we chastise her for it? If Avex thought this was that big of a deal, they wouldn't have let her publicize it to this degree. Period. Or perhaps a huge corporation like Avex is more forward-thinking and less concerned with traditional cultural norms than the rest of Japanese society... which... is sad. |
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maybe shes doing this to rebel against her culture in a way..
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I still think she is keeping her private life private and her work life separate.
Just right now, her boyfriend is apart of her work life... We still dont know anything about the two of them together |
No wonder she said she was bruised from filming.
Maro beating the crap out of ayu grrrr. I only like snowy kiss pv. |
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Tbh I don't care as I'd personally be happy if she never had her dancers in her videos. At least they didn't ruin Sweet scar. |
I still think his usage in again is simply as a faceless male model even though most fans know of him as "Maro". They try to not show his face at all.
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And before I go further, I wanna point out that in no way in my last post did I say that she's exploiting this relationship. I have revised my thinking from before because clearly this relationship isn't giving her any bonus points in her professional life, so yeah. However, there comes a point where some things are just too insensitive to the public. First and foremost, she is a public figure. She has said many times before that she has a responsibility to be Hamasaki Ayumi at all times, for her fans. That she has a responsibility to portray and perform the role of Hamasaki Ayumi. Unlike overseas fans, Japanese fans really become very fanatical about their favourite fans. Sorry to say, but it's the truth. Every single thing the artist does, we react to personally, whether it be very very good, or very very bad. There are some people who even commit suicide over their favourite artist' actions. She has continuously said that even if only one person listens to her, she will continue to sing. That means that she actually cares about what her fans are thinking, feeling. She isn't some mad artist who wants to experiment and doesn't care about the feelings of her fans. We all know this. It would definitely not be a problem if we hadn't known, because the circumstances have changed. There is another factor in the equation that seems to be swaying what she's thinking and what she does. Like I said before, this equation is the relationship between both of them. No one knows for sure what's happening behind the scenes, but we only know what's happening on the surface. And it appears like it's causing Maro to get preferential treatment, and not even Mannie was on the front cover of any of her albums. Or in the booklets. What I'm trying to say is, what may or may not be, the way it appears is the way I describe. And like many other of her fans over in here, I just can't accept that everything was a coincidence that she chose Maro randomly. And whether you guys may hate this kind of thinking, the truth is that Japan right now has the exact same thinking... everyone you talk to about Hamasaki Ayumi says "Oh she's gone so crazy. I loved when she was younger, but now she's just trying to hard. She's over." And looking at Again sales, it's true. This scandal has hit her very, very hard. |
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I think people are just confused about the release date. I mean, did anyone expect it to come out on Friday instead of Tuesday? |
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Release date is Today, the 8th... |
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I'm aware of that, but I think the furage day in addition to out of the ordinary release dates are just confusing to people who are for the most part, used to getting releases on certain days of the week. I remember when GUILTY got like 20k first day (then again this was back during the index days when you had to multiply) because of a super early Christmas release? |
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Have to say, this has made 2012 the WORST year for Ayu...she has got to take a break soon. We just can't let her continue on without a break...and she hasn't done one since she started her career back in 1998. |
It was just an observation from a Japanese fan and is probably also coincidence...
Let's look at the last three COUNTDOWN LIVE titles not counting WAKE UP: COUNTDOWN LIVE 2011-2012 A ~HOTEL Love songs~ COUNTDOWN LIVE 2010-2011 A ~do it again~ COUNTDOWN LIVE 2009-2010 A ~Future Classics~ Anyone see the parallels? (LOVE from "HOTEL Love songs", again from "do it again", A CLASSICAL from "Future Classics) If it does end up being 'forrealz'... the 4th release will be some kind of PREMIUM thing of some sort and the fifth will have 'Anniversary' in the title? PREMIUM COUNTDOWN LIVE 2008-2009 A COUNTDOWN LIVE 2007-2008 A ~Anniversary~ This is likely not true but still interesting. |
^ Definitely more interesting than people bawwing about how her career is over lol
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wOW..thats kinda cool HAHA! interesting ^^
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And for those people crying over her choosing Maro for the cover. It came out of her vagina, you start deal with it. She is the one who choses the songs she releases, the covers (although in Sunrise/Sunset and A SUMMER she should had asked for advise xD) and everything she wants. |
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My rainbow, in Spanish sounds better ne xD
And about that theory, I do not want anything "PREMIUM" with lots of expensive things like tea or cookies lol, better a premium booklet or something like that with the cd (single-album-mini-remix-whatever) Otherwise, it makes a lot of sense since the last release might celebrate her anniversary, thought it'll be the next month, maybe the premium thing will be the last 2 releases and then the anniversary, I don't know :/ |
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:lech As a "fan" I want Ayu to be devastated and lonely her whole life so she can write songs that describe my life and feel special. |
BEST ANNIVERSARY. I just can see it... xDD
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wow the idea of the cdl titles is a bit crazy but it does make some sense :laugh Maybe we'll get a "Premium Hotel Love Songs Tour DVD"?
Her boobs in Wake me up made me rewatch that jumping scene for a couple of minutes oh my god |
Really, I dont think ayumi is this in depth with her releases.
but we shall see. |
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I understand that there are strong cultural reasons for this issue becoming a "scandal," but can you at least see how this is... well, for lack of a better word, an overreaction? It's just silly to me that Japanese fans as well as some foreign ones freak out over her expressing her love for someone on a cover but when she has her ass out on all fours, no scandal! :laugh People may have complained about Party Queen but no one boycotted it. |
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Ayu fight back in the MY STORY era for her not to be treated like a puppet and a product by her label and now she has to fight for her not to be the puppet of her selfish fans. |
^ just wanted to add that I felt like My story was talking about what she had to do between A Best to Memorial Address (about fighting back)... its her story about it... lol.
And I will say that cultural differences are a huge part into it... quite frankly non-japanese fans will never truly understand what a japanese fan can feel, but also, japanese fans need to understand that not all ayumi fans are japanese nor do they have the so called 'weird' cultural view points. And yes its weird because its a weird cultural thing from a western view point. But beyond any of that, taskinillusion was right in the other thread no one is going to agree because we are all of different cultures. |
Actually, can somebody explain to me where is the current scandal? I don't get it. It's not like she's behaving like Lindsay Lohan, to put an example :rolleyes
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^ nothing just ayu and maro in relationship, and she said on her TA that she'd put her career and personal life separate, but then she put maro in her PVs, and that's what i heard that made the japanese fans mad, and some of the ppl in AHS as well.
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XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Western scandals are WAAAAAAAAAAAAY JUICIER :cool |
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Maybe this is just culminating from alot of things that happened over the past few years that made Japanese fans iffy. I just think her and her team royally screwed up because there is no way they couldn't predict this backlash. If this is the fanbase they are catering to, then they have to abide by whatever the norms are over there. And I will be the first to admit to boycotting PartyQueen lol, I just can't bring my self to buy it. |
i think...the PVs dont even point to Maro and Ayu having a relationship..whats there to be pissed about. Ayu is single again by the end of it all...thats probably the ending fans love? If this news wasnt announce, then everyone would treat Maro just as they would treat a normal actor..and still, i dont see a big problem with her own bf in the PV when he's just playing a role that isnt even reflective of their own relationship
===== here's my review of again..finally Wake me up - This is really different! I didn't think so much of Sparkle (ok maybe the verses). Ayu's vocals are superb!!! I love how strong and fierce they are and the beat is really good. Ayu really knows how to write songs and make them catchy (the Wake Up and Get Up parts). I think the production is very complete..esp with the bridge, that adds to that completed feel. (honestly, when the song started, I could totally Kumi singing this) Sweet scar - The opening really slayed me. It's so beautiful. again, it feels complete. With the violin in the bridge. I could see myself listening to this for several nights. Just this song and me haha. snowy kiss - truehappiness was right. I could see kalafina doing this song and it would be HOLY. I think Ayu's vocals are kinda high for this amazing song haha! But ok, not a valid complaint. snowy kiss is really amazinggggg!!!! It's as thought sending mail and Last angel had a lovechild. I could see this song as those grand anime movie theme songs. The verses give me images of this riding-on-the-bike-through-the-city scene and then there are epic battle scenes HAHAH. Ivy - the second verse touched me already. I love songs when the chorus sounds not so distinctly as a continuation from the verse. It's gorgeous! I can feel Ayu's emotions through this song. Very nice ballad. This mini DOES feel different from Ayu's normal works and has definitely ventured away well. great! |
CD+DVD version pics including booklet
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2033524483 |
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AHS had quite a few posts of foreign fans boycotting Party Queen. And for everyone who posts theres atleast 10 who don't post here because of the backlash having an opinion gets here. And for foreign fan there's 1000 or more japanese fans. So that adds up to alot and explains the Party Queen sales that never achieved what the previous 2 albums did. Now with AGAIN the boycotting is in much bigger #s and if this thing with Maro was planned for publicity for the remainder of the releases for her 15th Anniversary and for CDL, then the amount of fans she loses is going to be more than she has left.
Like someone stated above, her people should have thought this out before hand. |
Not that I hate Maro/Mannie or whoever she's dating...but it's better to keep them apart from her work~i mean, come on Ayu, we all love you, we love your music....but please don't use your own staff in your music video...i love "blossom" / "endless sorrow" / "connected"...even though there's no Ayu in the video...but it was really good.
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anyway, are there official big scans somewhere? |
okay, with the sales going up for again, I do believe that speaks for itself.
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But no, I haven't seen any scans yet :/ |
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Maybe the idea wasn't "in love again" but "in love/alone again" And Jbrat is being brilliant <3 |
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anyway such a pity why still no DVD rip for the PVs? need to see the HQ version for Sweet scar especially :thud |
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AND this whole boycott business erks me to no end. I'm ashamed of some people, I really am. And If I could apologize to her for her fans, I would. |
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very reflective of reality. ==== btw just wanted to add that snowy kiss's remix is AMAZINGGGGGGGG. that sound and dubstep worked so well :) Missing's orchestra just made it so many times sadder while keeping its beauty always been a fan of Melody and that piano-only version was simple and great! |
I also like the found love again more...
who knows. She looks happy in the pictures and what not, lol. She might be staying quite and stuff because of all this madness. Its sad really that she has too. |
adding the two mini albums together plus You & me makes an album that is 38 minutes long, almost as long as Memorial Address.
HMMM |
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