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Pieces_of_SEVEN 26th December 2012 07:02 PM

I wonder if the tweets to ayu will have any kind of impact.

ExodusUK 26th December 2012 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2953895)
I wonder if the tweets to ayu will have any kind of impact.

I'm sure she's rushing to the recording studio right now to record 10 more tracks after all the sweet and encouraging tweet's she's received today :love

Bigtop 26th December 2012 07:05 PM

Ever since Max Matsuura has been kicked out of Twitter it seems I'm not showing some love with Ayu very much. Even with the announcement of more details regarding this album. I do NOT have plans to buy this, and if I had any plans to buy this, assuming I bought the two mini-albums, I might not have bought it either...

Pieces_of_SEVEN 26th December 2012 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ExodusUK (Post 2953903)
I'm sure she's rushing to the recording studio right now to record 10 more tracks after all the sweet and encouraging tweet's she's received today :love

you're such a ***** I love it lol

LEOyumi 26th December 2012 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2953895)
I wonder if the tweets to ayu will have any kind of impact.

If the japanese fans seem happy/not bothered about it, western tweets will probably not have any effect. ): If they start talking and tweeting her about it, I imagine she would at least talk about it.

truehappiness 26th December 2012 07:40 PM

I think the Japanese reaction is pretty positive (compared to here), if not neutral. Some people who were on the edge though probably are fuming but that's always the case.

microphone 26th December 2012 07:44 PM

Can anyone in Japan (or fluent in Japanese and part of a Japanese ayu fan community) chime in?

Pieces_of_SEVEN 26th December 2012 07:45 PM

ugh...I feel like the Japanese fans aren't gonna care. annoying.

Diego-kun 26th December 2012 07:49 PM

Ok, now it's 100% official that Ayu wants to destroy her career (or as Arama they didn't posted: "Lose the 10 fans she has left lol). I'm not pissed because I'm not a huge fan anymore and I haven't bought anything since FIVE. However, I honestly think her loyal fans don't deserve this. It seems as if Ayu is laughing at them...

Pieces_of_SEVEN 26th December 2012 07:51 PM

^dramatic but kinda true.

JackieRos 26th December 2012 07:57 PM

wtf was the point in releasing those "mini albums"

Pieces_of_SEVEN 26th December 2012 08:03 PM

^we just have to consider them as singles

JackieRos 26th December 2012 08:07 PM

I considered them singles from the beginning :weep.

I love song 4 u and snowy kiss, I'm kind of intrigued in buying it. Jeez that's a first.

Gubsi 26th December 2012 08:10 PM

the meltdowns here made me day, especially when it was so obvious this album turns out to be like this! #stilllaughing

you know if those pseudo-mini-albums were labeled as singles everyone would be like: OMG BEST RELEASE EVUR FLAWLESS AMAZING WOAHAHA ILHJKGSBLUSGHIL
BUT now most people like: omg i cancel my order, i'm not a fan anymore, she's not the "good" ayu anymore, she's destroying the rest of her career etc yadda yadda... #lmaoimcrying
and tweeting her ur dissapointment is just really hilarious as hell!
come on guys, keep it cute and throw some logic around!
LOVE and again are singles, just labeled as Mini's, cause avex want to hold on Ayu's #1 Single Streak!

funny thing is my spotify playlist is called LOVE again and i told my friend i would scream & laugh when she names her album "LOVE again"... well...

so basically what i can say...!?
i am very happy about this release and i knew it would have alle the songs from LOVE, again & You and Me!
covers are beautiful and i'm gonna get the CD+DVD+GOODIES, which has the best one!
and it won't be hard to get those Goodies Version for me and my friend if so many people cancel their order! lolol
song titles are really nice!
the only thing i don't like about this is that the only "new PV" is Melody...
Which is a good thing, BUT at least a second new PV for SAKURA or whatever would be great!
And if those songs are in the same quality as the PV songs i know i'll love this to hell, so welcome #3 in my fave Ayu Album List besides (miss)understood and Love songs!

adantatu2 26th December 2012 08:12 PM

I'm so happy !!! I love the covers and the tracklist is good !!!
I'm going to buy this, but maybe i could wait for the next release, because it could be a REPACKAGE album of LOVE again.
Now you have to consider the future mini-albums as singles.

And You & Me is added probably because is part of the trilogy.

I LOVE AHS, DRAMA is ALL

Eewyi 26th December 2012 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gubsi (Post 2953991)
the meltdowns here made me day, especially when it was so obvious this album turns out to be like this! #stilllaughing

you know if those pseudo-mini-albums were labeled as singles everyone would be like: OMG BEST RELEASE EVUR FLAWLESS AMAZING WOAHAHA ILHJKGSBLUSGHIL
BUT now most people like: omg i cancel my order, i'm not a fan anymore, she's not the "good" ayu anymore, she's destroying the rest of her career etc yadda yadda... #lmaoimcrying
and tweeting her ur dissapointment is just really hilarious as hell!
come on guys, keep it cute and throw some logic around!
LOVE and again are singles, just labeled as Mini's, cause avex want to hold on Ayu's #1 Single Streak!

funny thing is my spotify playlist is called LOVE again and i told my friend i would scream & laugh when she names her album "LOVE again"... well...

so basically what i can say...!?
i am very happy about this release and i knew it would have alle the songs from LOVE, again & You and Me!
covers are beautiful and i'm gonna get the CD+DVD+GOODIES, which has the best one!
and it won't be hard to get those Goodies Version for me and my friend if so many people cancel their order! lolol
song titles are really nice!
the only thing i don't like about this is that the only "new PV" is Melody...
Which is a good thing, BUT at least a second new PV for SAKURA or whatever would be great!
And if those songs are in the same quality as the PV songs i know i'll love this to hell, so welcome #3 in my fave Ayu Album List besides (miss)understood and Love songs!

I'm agreeing with you now. [Although I'm one of those who was "tricked" to buy LOVE and again] You know what? I'm blaming only myself, for being stupid and naive. And what's done is done. So, I'm not complaining anymore. I should have seen this [unfortunately, I'm naive by nature, not only with this, but in all things.]
I mean, 14 new songs + 6 new from minis? Not logical at all. That's just over the top. Haha, what a silly little girl I am!

Plus I did get some remixes at least. And I haven't watched PVs yet, so just gonna hold that for LOVE again.
Now I'm just gonna avoid listening to LOVE and again and just spare the remixes to my iPhone. And besides, they still ARE good songs, although I have them two times now, and usually don't buy singles.

And still, I ordered the Limited CD + DVD ed.~
And there's still that "buy all 5, get extra" thing coming...

kimmeh 26th December 2012 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by microphone (Post 2953952)
Can anyone in Japan (or fluent in Japanese and part of a Japanese ayu fan community) chime in?

I just told my japanese friend staying here about it; ill post something again when I get her reply:)

mizuki-7 26th December 2012 08:23 PM

Quote:

you know if those pseudo-mini-albums were labeled as singles everyone would be like: OMG BEST RELEASE EVUR FLAWLESS AMAZING WOAHAHA ILHJKGSBLUSGHIL
BUT now most people like: omg i cancel my order, i'm not a fan anymore, she's not the "good" ayu anymore, she's destroying the rest of her career etc yadda yadda... #lmaoimcrying
and tweeting her ur dissapointment is just really hilarious as hell!
come on guys, keep it cute and throw some logic around!
:yes it's crazy

Gubsi 26th December 2012 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Eewyi (Post 2954001)
I'm agreeing with you now. [Although I'm one of those who was "tricked" to buy LOVE and again] You know what? I'm blaming only myself, for being stupid and naive. And what's done is done. So, I'm not complaining anymore.

well, i bought LOVE and again as well, BUT it's ok for me!
Ayu is one of the few artists i want to buy all singles, albums and mini's (and mostly main best of's like A BEST and sometimes Compilations like A BALLADS if it's worth it), so i would have them anyway...

i can understand if some are kinda dissapointed, BUT i don't see the the point being winy and throwing stones at her...
we should be happy that we get new music and seriously i am more satisfied with an album that i know i'll probably love most of the songs than something like Party Queen which has some good songs but nothing more...

PoetGirl 26th December 2012 08:37 PM

after the first shock I can live with that. Its the same number of old and new tracks and covers are stunning!! reminded me of AZU.

http://i.imgur.com/Rv3Fp.jpg?1

mizuki-7 26th December 2012 08:41 PM

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after the first shock I can live with that
Of course you can :lech

Pieces_of_SEVEN 26th December 2012 08:42 PM

Guess we're over reacting. Just wish they had released LOVE and again as singles, and this album had a different title. Then realistically there would be no problem.

RELEASE AYU TRANCE 5

Tom Punks 26th December 2012 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2954023)
Guess we're over reacting. Just wish they had released LOVE and again as singles, and this album had a different title. Then realistically there would be no problem.

RELEASE AYU TRANCE 5

Exactly. kasdjgaksdgk.

Naming the album "LOVE again" and slapping You & Me on it just reeks of no creativity. Seriously. What the ****. :thud

AyusakiFan 26th December 2012 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gubsi (Post 2953991)
the meltdowns here made me day, especially when it was so obvious this album turns out to be like this! #stilllaughing

you know if those pseudo-mini-albums were labeled as singles everyone would be like: OMG BEST RELEASE EVUR FLAWLESS AMAZING WOAHAHA ILHJKGSBLUSGHIL
BUT now most people like: omg i cancel my order, i'm not a fan anymore, she's not the "good" ayu anymore, she's destroying the rest of her career etc yadda yadda... #lmaoimcrying
and tweeting her ur dissapointment is just really hilarious as hell!
come on guys, keep it cute and throw some logic around!
LOVE and again are singles, just labeled as Mini's, cause avex want to hold on Ayu's #1 Single Streak!

funny thing is my spotify playlist is called LOVE again and i told my friend i would scream & laugh when she names her album "LOVE again"... well...

so basically what i can say...!?
i am very happy about this release and i knew it would have alle the songs from LOVE, again & You and Me!
covers are beautiful and i'm gonna get the CD+DVD+GOODIES, which has the best one!
and it won't be hard to get those Goodies Version for me and my friend if so many people cancel their order! lolol
song titles are really nice!
the only thing i don't like about this is that the only "new PV" is Melody...
Which is a good thing, BUT at least a second new PV for SAKURA or whatever would be great!
And if those songs are in the same quality as the PV songs i know i'll love this to hell, so welcome #3 in my fave Ayu Album List besides (miss)understood and Love songs!

I completely agree with you. I've been thoroughly entertained. This is like a April Fools' Day joke gone terribly right. This year is definitely ending with a bang. Only on AHS, lol.

roanmy 26th December 2012 09:05 PM

Photobook and ayupan figurine! Yay! =D

Pieces_of_SEVEN 26th December 2012 09:09 PM

I can't wait to see what the ayupan looks like. Trying to forget the insanity that is the tracklist.

AyusakiFan 26th December 2012 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2954048)
I can't wait to see what the ayupan looks like. Trying to forget the insanity that is the tracklist.

I'm looking forward to seeing what the Ayupan looks like as well! I love the fact that it's going to be an exclusive Ayupan that only those who've ordered the limited editions will get. It's probably going to be quite rare and worth a nice chunk of change in the future. I'm also really looking forward to seeing the photobook as well since the covers are gorgeous!

truehappiness 26th December 2012 09:17 PM

I believe it was stated that the Ayupan is of the Ayu on the cover?

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ジャケット写真イメージのayupanフィギュア”付きが遂に実現!
"Jacket picture image ayupan figure" is what they mentioned.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 26th December 2012 09:38 PM

Listening to Love songs now...please let these new songs be spectacular

kimmeh 26th December 2012 09:43 PM

Someone wanted some of the japanese fans to chime in on their opinion.
I've only got one "real" ayu fan; and this was her reply;

http://i.imgur.com/C0vbc.png

Pieces_of_SEVEN 26th December 2012 09:48 PM

One of the worst parts is that there's nothing on the ****ing DVD. I really couldn't care less about the Melody PV.

I am excited about the ayupan cover...if it's ayu on the cover of the album, that will be amazing.

truehappiness 26th December 2012 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kimmeh (Post 2954086)
Someone wanted some of the japanese fans to chime in on their opinion.
I've only got one "real" ayu fan; and this was her reply;

http://i.imgur.com/C0vbc.png

That kinda sounds like the consensus from what tokyoxjapanxfan said too.

People were kind of meh or happy but they wanted to buy it anyway.

All things considered, this is a lot of new music in the span of about a year. I wonder what we have in store for 2013?

mizuki-7 26th December 2012 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mizuki-7 (Post 2954094)
Neither more nor less like GUILTY ! The drama with these mini album is exaggerated it's like if we bought all the single of Love songs era ...

MOON/BLOSSOM+Crossroad+L= 6 songs for 5660 Yens (CD+DVD)
LOVE + AGAIN = 7 songs for 4830 Yens (CD+DVD)


So stop this drama ...

What I say in another thread !

Pieces_of_SEVEN 26th December 2012 10:06 PM

so 15 tracks. 8 previously released. 2-3 interludes. Which means 4-5 new songs. Sounds about typical for an ayu album. Really just gotta consider LOVE and again as singles. sigh smh

rainbow_smile 26th December 2012 10:16 PM

I was disappointed at first when I saw this announcement... But now I feel okay about it.

I'm one of those who usually don't buy singles, so I feel tricked as well. But well it was kinda my mistake as well, because these were quite obviously singles in disguise lol

Anyway, that's what most of fans wanted: she released 'singles' and included them on her new album.

Even if she labeled these as singles instead of mini-albums, I'm sure everyone here would still go 'I wish this album only had new tracks'

I guess people here will never be satisfied xD

taskinillusion 26th December 2012 10:27 PM

I feel like Ayu is having a mid-life crisis way too soon. I want her to still release new music and be around, but not if it means she does crap like this. I'd rather she go on hiatus to refresh and get inspired and then have a great comeback. It would give us time to miss her and she wouldn't look pathetic by releasing stuff just for the sake of releasing something!

Oh well, saving money by NOT buying this album. This is the first "major album" I won't be purchasing. And I still wish I hadn't bothered with buying Party Queen. :laugh I feel like she never would have willingly done a release like this back in the day. WHAT has happened to her?? I completely fail to see how this is a "THANK YOU TO THE FANS" when it's really a HUGE SLAP IN THE FACE! This album is going to bomb so hard. Maybe it'll WAKE UP Avex so they stop this crap and let Ayu take a rest. I just feel so irked about this.

And is she seriously not even bothering to release a 2013 calendar?! So last year's re-make calendar was like the finale then? I feel like she's going, "Nah, I'm done. Let's see if I can go down in flames." UGH.

/ayufanragerant

Agieboyz 26th December 2012 10:36 PM

Please tell me, i'm in a nighmare???

truehappiness 26th December 2012 10:39 PM

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I completely fail to see how this is a "THANK YOU TO THE FANS" when it's really a HUGE SLAP IN THE FACE!
Probably because it's a lot of material in a short amount of time? I mean, 2011 was really barren for Ayu releases and we never get news so quickly for most Ayu releases.

Kouyou 26th December 2012 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2953892)
The thing is, when you buy singles (like say if Ayu had 4 singles before an album) would you also feel tricked in that situation?

I know that singles are normally on albums and these were called mini albums and all that but I'm just relating the current situation to what's been 'done before'.

I wouldn't feel tricked if I bought the singles before an album was released, I mean, I have bought them on iTunes before. It's just that I knew what I was doing, I guess. Also, the singles are usually released long before the full album is.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if I had known her release schedule for the 15th anniversary project, I would not have bought LOVE and again, but I'm kind of over the initial dissapointment. I'm looking forward to it now. :)

~angel*ayumi~ 26th December 2012 10:41 PM

I am still disapointed <.<
Wonder when they will post the 4th Cover (If it is even different from the other ones)

taskinillusion 26th December 2012 10:47 PM

I still feel like we were lied to. How is that a thank you? I only bought "again" and didn't buy "LOVE", but it's the principle of the thing that irks me. I guess I was gullible in believing they were stand alone releases and we wouldn't see them repeated on an album. It's hilarious/pathetic that Avex isn't calling any release a "single" anymore so she can keep her streak. She'll still HAVE the streak, it'll just have ended. I just don't like how they're doing things. Oh well. At least the covers are pretty?

/firstworldproblems

emi♡ 26th December 2012 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by taskinillusion (Post 2954131)
I feel like Ayu is having a mid-life crisis way too soon. I want her to still release new music and be around, but not if it means she does crap like this. I'd rather she go on hiatus to refresh and get inspired and then have a great comeback. It would give us time to miss her and she wouldn't look pathetic by releasing stuff just for the sake of releasing something!

Oh well, saving money by NOT buying this album. This is the first "major album" I won't be purchasing. And I still wish I hadn't bothered with buying Party Queen. :laugh I feel like she never would have willingly done a release like this back in the day. WHAT has happened to her?? I completely fail to see how this is a "THANK YOU TO THE FANS" when it's really a HUGE SLAP IN THE FACE! This album is going to bomb so hard. Maybe it'll WAKE UP Avex so they stop this crap and let Ayu take a rest. I just feel so irked about this.

And is she seriously not even bothering to release a 2013 calendar?! So last year's re-make calendar was like the finale then? I feel like she's going, "Nah, I'm done. Let's see if I can go down in flames." UGH.

/ayufanragerant

lol! That was one of the first things I thought.



I guess this is just a typical release...and well honestly, I've been pissed off about her typical releases since forever.



Lauren was right. They called them mini albums just so they could charge more for them. They weren't stand alone releases, they didn't have their own concepts. They were just singles. And it worked.

I feel slightly bad for everyone who spent money on it, but hey, it's business. Personally, I think I'll wait a while before I ever decide to make music purchases.

Thank god for illegal downloading.

taskinillusion 26th December 2012 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by emi♡ (Post 2954145)
Personally, I think I'll wait a while before I ever decide to make music purchases.

That's pretty much the conclusion I've come to now with Ayu. I'm only ever going to buy her major albums now....'cept for this one. :laugh

TeamAyu2004 26th December 2012 10:54 PM

thats because we were lied too.
thats what gets me the most.

ayudancer 26th December 2012 10:55 PM

I think "LOVE again" might do quite well sales wise if Avex learned their lesson from the horribly minimal advertising they did with "Party Queen." Here's hoping they do more than just sending one truck around blasting her music and putting up a few big posters.

TeamAyu2004 26th December 2012 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Gubsi (Post 2953991)
the meltdowns here made me day, especially when it was so obvious this album turns out to be like this! #stilllaughing

it wasn't obvious in the slightest.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gubsi (Post 2953991)
you know if those pseudo-mini-albums were labeled as singles everyone would be like: OMG BEST RELEASE EVUR FLAWLESS AMAZING WOAHAHA ILHJKGSBLUSGHIL

ture, what's your point?

truehappiness 26th December 2012 11:06 PM

I don't really know if the streak has anything to do with it, but it seems like she's just not releasing singles anymore after #50 regardless of whether there's a #1 on the line or not.

TeamAyu2004 26th December 2012 11:09 PM

i never understood the peoples fascination with the streak anyways...
it does nothing for her.

polka-dot-jewel 26th December 2012 11:16 PM

Does HMV charge when you buy the item, or when it's shipped (in regards to a preorder)? I haven't bought from HMV in forever and forgot... I'm kinda excited to get this, ha.

DOLCE 26th December 2012 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gubsi (Post 2953991)
the meltdowns here made me day, especially when it was so obvious this album turns out to be like this! #stilllaughing

I know right? to quote myself from two days ago...http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showpo...6&postcount=47

I mean god damn people here need to open their eyes :laugh Are people still gonna try and deny the streak thing? Cause if it was just a matter of being able to charge more every single artist in Japan would replace singles with mini albums. Doesn't work that way :no

!Lawi! 26th December 2012 11:56 PM

By the way, the CDL logo with the cross didn't shock me in the slightest, but now we have "Gloria" as a title. Is Ayu trying to say something?

kiseki89 26th December 2012 11:58 PM

I feel so cheated. I am an album person only. Hence I bought e mini albums. Now this 14th one has more than 50% containing tracks from LOVE and again. I think my no1 hate list consist of whoever who came up with this stupid idea

Akutenshi 26th December 2012 11:59 PM

My entire theory was that she'd release 5 mini albums and combine them all anyway, so I'm actually kind of glad she jumped the gun and is releasing the album sooner than I expected. The quality of her music lately has been pretty great so I for one and am excited for the new tracks. I think both mini albums fit together pretty nicely too anyway, so I'm looking forward to this!

relmy 27th December 2012 12:01 AM

Ok, why are people pulling the "if they were labelled as singles you'd love it, stop whining"/"would you feel this way if they were singles" argument? It's simple: people wouldn't complain if they were singles because you expect them to be on another release. A mini-album you do not. When something is a single you make the conscious choice to purchase repeated material.

It's why I don't buy singles, I (thankfully) didn't buy LOVE or again, but I was planning to - because they're mini-albums! Glad I've been rather broke these past few months.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 27th December 2012 12:03 AM

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13...6-19-01-42.png

jewelbox 27th December 2012 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emi♡ (Post 2954145)
Lauren was right. They called them mini albums just so they could charge more for them. They weren't stand alone releases, they didn't have their own concepts. They were just singles. And it worked.

I feel slightly bad for everyone who spent money on it, but hey, it's business. Personally, I think I'll wait a while before I ever decide to make music purchases.

Thank god for illegal downloading.

All this. so damn true

TeamAyu2004 27th December 2012 12:04 AM

preach it relmy and pieces.

pheonixflame15 27th December 2012 12:24 AM

Seems like everyone is "waking up" now...it doesn't even seem real when I think back to the old Ayu.

BlackSilence 27th December 2012 12:24 AM

i vent out on the original thread, in one post, i'm alright now. lol

well on the other hand there are 4 good things with this....
- the covers (anyone remmebers that TA pic from recent entry? i bet THAT was the photoshoot.)she looks gorgeous, tho i wanna shot whoever had a "job" to put a font on them...i will never be happy about fonts, ever lol
- I love Mellody, and i was kinda sad it didn't get a PV, so yay for it getting a PV now. Tho i had a feeling this is gonna happen.
- a few new songs. hoping for them to be just as good, and hopefully not half of them are interludes
- i am hoping this is an end of the LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE era. ENOUGH, AYU, please......

and um... do people really need to send kind of offensive overly angry tweets directly to Ayu? I mean Avex has a share in this too....i'm kinda like "O_O" at some of them on my timeline....

Pieces_of_SEVEN 27th December 2012 12:31 AM

http://deliriumzer0.tumblr.com/post/...ain-apparently

love in music 27th December 2012 12:31 AM

This release is kind of funny, I'm definitely not surprised this happened. The covers are stunning :heart Looking forward to the new songs.

ll moments ll 27th December 2012 12:32 AM

OMG SERIOUSLY @ THE TRACKLIST????! LMAO. well, i'm glad i didn't buy the mini albums! thank goodness. :laugh

but those covers are really nice tho. :yes

Seiko Yua 27th December 2012 12:33 AM

okay so i didn't buy LOVE or again, but after reading this, *i* even felt cheated. like we were tricked and used. why ayu?! how freakin' stupid!

JackieRos 27th December 2012 12:34 AM

they said "all new songs" and then they took it down and now it contains repeated songs.
that's what bothers me more.

TeamAyu2004 27th December 2012 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2954234)

yep yep

edit:
after reading through it, I agree with every point but the last...
I love the covers.

BlackSilence 27th December 2012 12:38 AM

^^ they did this ?? o_O -200 points for them....

i think that's what made me all confused and pissed because they stated that...and.....i saw the whole tracklist and it seems they changed it? oh man.... i wonder was there some sort of a reason bechind that.....:dead2

Not cool, Avex, NOT cool...:no

Pieces_of_SEVEN 27th December 2012 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JackieRos (Post 2954238)
they said "all new songs" and then they took it down and now it contains repeated songs.
that's what bothers me more.

this is what it boils down to.

And labeling singles as mini albums to jack up the price
and label mini albums as full-length albums with recycled tracks to jack up the price

it's ****ed up

I need a ****ing xanax after this thread.

Gubsi 27th December 2012 12:40 AM

i think people should accept this, this is not the end of the world, it's a typical album release with just a few new songs and thats ok...
i mean look at Hikki's HEART STATION (3/4 new songs+ 1 interlude) or Namie's Uncontrolled (4 new songs)...
so 7 new songs (probably 5 songs and 2 interludes) isn't the best, BUT it could be much worse!!

some people are dissapointed of some reasons, yes!
BUT people shouldn't act like this or tweet her bad things...
it's not you own her, she can do whatever she (or avex) wants!
you know, she's an artist, she's a product, she's here to make people throwing money at her!!
and if someone don't like it, thats ok, it's not like you can love anything your fave puts out!
let's just be happy we get some new music and let's see if we can enjoy them like i enjoyed the songs we already have! :)

PS: and all those "i'm mad" posts, tweets and blog entries are funny (at least for me)...
can't wait for the first video on youtube about this! :laugh
it's ok when you're mad, BUT oh my...
Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2954158)
it wasn't obvious in the slightest.



ture, what's your point?

well, for me it was and i even posted that this would happen, talked to my friend this will happen, etc!
if some people can't add 1+1 together, sorry it's not that hard!!
or maybe i'm just a incredible genius i don't know, maybe someone can tell me!? lol :laugh

yes it's not the usual ravioli ravioli give me the formuoli for an album release, BUT if u have an open mind, maybe u can see the things from different perspectives...!?

well my point is that people or let me call them "fans" always being negative about anything!
for example:
artist: i'm doing the same stuff over and over again!
fans: she's so uncreative, i want her to trying new things!
BUT
artist: oh look, i'm doing a new genre and style of music!
fans: omg crap, we want the old "insert artist name here" back!

and i don't need to put the mini album/singles thing again...
yes those are mini-albums...
BUT it's not the first time in history an asian artist put a song from a mini-album on a studio album later... #lookatkpopreleases

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOLCE (Post 2954210)
I know right? to quote myself from two days ago...http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showpo...6&postcount=47

I mean god damn people here need to open their eyes :laugh Are people still gonna try and deny the streak thing? Cause if it was just a matter of being able to charge more every single artist in Japan would replace singles with mini albums. Doesn't work that way :no

Thank U and Thank U!!

pheonixflame15 27th December 2012 12:40 AM

Originally posted by Pieces...http://deliriumzer0.tumblr.com/post/...ain-apparently

This...

SunshineSlayer 27th December 2012 12:40 AM

Oh god. Well I could definitely see this coming. So glad I didn't buy the mini albums. It was obvious that they were singles, or at least I thought so. Avex is afraid to release singles for her it seems and then by calling them mini albums they could charge a higher price.

But geeze how did Avex not see that this is a bad idea? I can see this being the final nail in the coffin for a lot of people's fandom.

emi♡ 27th December 2012 12:43 AM

@artcika: Yes, we were under the impression it was going to be all new songs...

I'm still wondering if it was a translation thing.

Like maybe by "new" they included the "new" releases...although You & Me is still a mystery.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 27th December 2012 12:45 AM

^Yeah, especially that has no ****ing place on this album.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 27th December 2012 12:46 AM

I think You & Me was added just because of this stupid new trilogy

Obviously this release is somehow really similar to Love songs, I wonder if she'll marry maro when it's released

love in music 27th December 2012 12:46 AM

I actually haven't bought an ayu release in years because avex are greedy a-holes. Do not want to support them ever again. I think everyone here should just stop their collections now and download from JPS from now on. They've even got flac there.

TeamAyu2004 27th December 2012 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gubsi (Post 2954246)
well, for me it was and i even posted that this would happen, talked to my friend this will happen, etc!
if some people can't add 1+1 together, sorry it's not that hard!!
or maybe i'm just a incredible genius i don't know, maybe someone can tell me!? lol :laugh

there is a difference between something being obvious and you speculating.
thats my point.

and it has nothing to do with the amount of new songs.
its how the last two releases were handled.
when something is a single, call it a single not a mini.

emi♡ 27th December 2012 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by love in music (Post 2954253)
I actually haven't bought an ayu release in years because avex are greedy a-holes. Do not want to support them ever again. I think everyone here should just stop their collections now and download from JPS from now on. They've even got flac there.

AND Blu-ray :lech

~Support JpopSuki~ Freeleech until the 1st!


To the person below me, no. Hell no lol I hope it can reach 100k, but, I sincerely am doubting.

Didz-19 27th December 2012 12:48 AM

So...it all down to one thing...will you buy the album or not?

SunshineSlayer 27th December 2012 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2954234)

Great post.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 27th December 2012 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didz-19 (Post 2954256)
So...it all down to one thing...will you buy the album or not?

not me, **** that.

I will get it later on when I can pay like 5 dollars from some auction, or wait until it's 250 yen at book off in Japan

paper_doll 27th December 2012 12:51 AM

Is she serious with this title? And honestly, I really like the covers, but they look like Kana Nishino ripoffs lol.

I haven't bought an Ayu release in years, and this certainly isn't helping. I feel bad for people who bought the two mini-albums, but I feel like we should have seen something like this coming.

TeamAyu2004 27th December 2012 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didz-19 (Post 2954256)
So...it all down to one thing...will you buy the album or not?

i know I am... which gives me even more right to ***** about it, lol

Pieces_of_SEVEN 27th December 2012 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2954260)
i know I am... which gives me even more right to ***** about it, lol

me too

emi♡ 27th December 2012 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paper_doll (Post 2954259)
Is she serious with this title? And honestly, I really like the covers, but they look like Kana Nishino ripoffs lol.

That's something that bugs me A LOT. This concept is so....Japanese and soo overdone. By everyone.

Someone had up an AZU cover earlier, hiromi's got some of this look...it's just...

It's disappointing for, I guess where I like to have Ayu in my list of creative musicians.

It would have been really cool if she could have come up with something really interesting...but it seems like she mostly does really interesting things when she's all...sad or on medication.

And imagine if she could have come up with something interesting for such a common idea as love. Maybe that's just, out of her range though.


At least the photos are nice. I said somewhere else...people wanted a simple, more natural ayu for a long time. Well...here it is. I wonder how long it'll last.

VegetaLove 27th December 2012 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2954252)
I think You & Me was added just because of this stupid new trilogy

Obviously this release is somehow really similar to Love songs, I wonder if she'll marry maro when it's released

lol


I wonder if they'll be releasing mini-albums in the future? Seems like this stunt will make fans be wary of buying any mini-albums as soon as they are released.

Foyuki 27th December 2012 12:58 AM

everthing's no surprise
lol

SURREAL__RAINBOW 27th December 2012 01:03 AM

I'm gonna read the future and not buy a single thing because it'll all end up in A BEST 3 or A WINTER BEST, or in A SUMMER BEST EPISODE II.

Polyrhythm 27th December 2012 01:03 AM

The "gift" needs to be like, a kiss from Ayu...on the asses of everyone who bought all 5 of these...whatever they are. Don't know how she can possibly make up for this...which is sad cause everything on LOVE again that's been released so far is so good. Now people are just going to remember this 15th Anniversary mess for the way Ayu scammed them instead of the music.

TeamAyu2004 27th December 2012 01:04 AM

Well, i guess the good news is that since she has hit rock bottom for me there is only up.
lol

SunshineSlayer 27th December 2012 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mizuki-7 (Post 2953540)
They do the same thing with Maki goto lol

Maki was a different case though only maybe half her songs from the minis were put on the album. Also it was her first and last Avex album and was meant to encompass her entire career at Avex - like a mini best of basically.

relmy 27th December 2012 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2954272)
Well, i guess the good news is that since she has hit rock bottom for me there is only up.
lol

Don't be so sure, people have been saying she's at rock bottom for a while. D:

spanishfan 27th December 2012 01:05 AM

People, if you're upset don't buy the material.

Are you sure you're an ayufan or you just need an obsesion and today it's ayumi's turn? :/

I'm not going to buy anything as i'm saving up money these days. But I'll buy all these releases in the future, i just don't need to have them right now. I'd buy first JAPONESQUE.

And I was right when I said LOVE and again were labeled as mini-album to try to keep her record of #1 album every year. I'm glad she broke that record finally. Now she might focus on create music and not release things without sense only to milk people.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 27th December 2012 01:06 AM

tbh I hope the actual album sells less than again.

And I get to complain even though I'm not buying this because actually I've already bought more than half of the album lol

happiholic★ 27th December 2012 01:09 AM

Wish there was a CD+Goods version, cause all the PVs are not to my taste.

kiseki89 27th December 2012 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by relmy (Post 2954217)
Ok, why are people pulling the "if they were labelled as singles you'd love it, stop whining"/"would you feel this way if they were singles" argument? It's simple: people wouldn't complain if they were singles because you expect them to be on another release. A mini-album you do not. When something is a single you make the conscious choice to purchase repeated material.

It's why I don't buy singles, I (thankfully) didn't buy LOVE or again, but I was planning to - because they're mini-albums! Glad I've been rather broke these past few months.

Me in your not-happening-shoes now. I guess I shall not trust the label mini album again. It used to be so simple with memorial address and five
In the mids of being broke if I were to buy the album.

jewelbox 27th December 2012 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paper_doll (Post 2954259)
Is she serious with this title? And honestly, I really like the covers, but they look like Kana Nishino ripoffs lol.

I haven't bought an Ayu release in years, and this certainly isn't helping. I feel bad for people who bought the two mini-albums, but I feel like we should have seen something like this coming.

True that. I stopped buying her stuff when RnrC came. I don't know what it is, but she has lost her touch I guess. And her label is getting more and more hungry for money and I'm not gonna support that, sorry. I'm gonna download this **** and maybe consider buying it in the distant future from ebay for few bucks. It's sad.

TeamAyu2004 27th December 2012 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by relmy (Post 2954275)
Don't be so sure, people have been saying she's at rock bottom for a while. D:

well, guilty was rock bottom for me and then she came out with NEXT LEVEL, which was about 1000x better...
so her next album better seriously kick some ass.

Ayumiko 27th December 2012 01:15 AM

I didn't think I can get more disappointed after LOVE and again releases, and the classical tracklist. Now she combined both the minis into one bigger album with you & me? I'm tired of seeing you & me. Just 1 new pv on the album? I'm so glad I stopped buying her stuff. This is just ridiculous. This is coming from her fan since loveppears.

owlflight 27th December 2012 01:15 AM

I love the covers! Can't wait until February for this to be released (along with ayaka's single and Josh Groban's new album :D )

sugarbasil 27th December 2012 01:16 AM

I have only heard one or two new Ayu songs from the last year, since my interest in her and her music has dropped significantly over the last few years; so I will be happy to hear the album as a whole, but I can completely see why others would be pissed off about this situation. I've lost a lot of respect for Ayu in the last few years, but this has kind of been the big kicker. Yes, it's mostly Avex's fault, but Ayu could have put her foot down and prevented it from happening.

TeamAyu2004 27th December 2012 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan_massey (Post 2954291)
I love the covers! Can't wait until February for this to be released (along with ayaka's single and Josh Groban's new album :D )

ohhh... ayaka is coming out we a new single! coolness! lol...
a ray of light in all this mess.


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