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calltome 15th January 2013 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2963867)
Didn't understand you on this one...

I was talking about how come the best selling album in jpop history only sold 7 million copies. I personally think that 7 million is not enough considering Japans total population. :yes

norwegian blue 15th January 2013 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2963831)
Japan's best selling album sold 7 million... "only" 5% of the population bought it... It's not like most of the population ever bought music. :P

I know that, that wasn't the point. The point was that even in my country with only 5 million people, 25 000 isn't a particularly good sales number. http://i.imgur.com/3iSDa.gif

Andrenekoi 15th January 2013 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calltome (Post 2963950)
I was talking about how come the best selling album in jpop history only sold 7 million copies. I personally think that 7 million is not enough considering Japans total population. :yes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_L...ru_Utada_album)

When you get the total population of any music market, the best selling album of that country always sold little compared to the total population.^^

TeamAyu2004 15th January 2013 07:51 PM

not everyone in a country buys music...
you also have to think of the demographics of a country. the age range...
big buyers of music are teens-40 something...
7 million is a HUGE number compared to the actual buying pool.

*Petit* 15th January 2013 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norwegian blue (Post 2963957)
I know that, that wasn't the point. The point was that even in my country with only 5 million people, 25 000 isn't a particularly good sales number. http://i.imgur.com/3iSDa.gif

thats not really true for norway platium is 30k for albums and 15k for gold. For singles its 5k and 10k . including downloads. And it's one of the countries where people spend most on music per person on average...

TeamAyu2004 15th January 2013 10:28 PM

wow, if ayumi had released that album in norway she would be looking at almost a platinum album, lol.

i always wanted to know how they figure out all their numbers... its rather interesting.

chu-lips 16th January 2013 12:58 AM

ayu sold over 50mill
Japanese population is 180 mill
almost 35% people have ayu cd
LOL

TeamAyu2004 16th January 2013 01:04 AM

^ um, japanese population is less then 130 million.
so almost half of the japanese population could have an ayumi cd, lol.

Tony G 16th January 2013 02:58 AM

^ no. 50 million sales doesn't mean each sale was made to a different person. So it would be significantly less than what you're calculating.

TeamAyu2004 16th January 2013 03:11 AM

^ yes.
i was saying if you spread it out, i wasnt saying this was true.

adantatu2 16th January 2013 05:21 AM

LOL !

The sales are really good for a classical album, just look at 2AM (a kpop group) sales, this is their debut album and they can't sell more than ayu

KarenPang 16th January 2013 07:56 AM

Oricon Weekly - Albums (7/1/2013~13/1/2013)

*1 25,049 *25,049 Hamasaki Ayumi - A Classical
*2 21,344 *21,344 Shinomiya Natsuki (Taniyama Kisho) & Miyano Mamoru (Ichinose Tokiya) - Uta no☆Prince Sama♪ Shuffle Unit CD Natsuki & Tokiy
*3 20,692 216,488 Sandaime J Soul Brothers - MIRACLE
*4 20,550 199,667 Ikimonogakari - Baradon
*5 18,721 *18,721 AK-69 - THE INDEPENDENT KING
*6 18,668 140,128 EXILE - EXILE - EXILE BEST HITS -LOVE SIDE/SOUL SIDE- (Total since 5 Dec 2012: 639,603)
*7 15,828 *15,828 Shoujo Jidai – I Got A Boy
*8 15,783 129,222 FUNKY MONKEY BABYS - FUNKY MONKEY BABYS 5
*9 14,250 140,649 Matsutoya Yumi - Matsutoya Yumi 40 Shunen Kinen Best Album Nihon no Koi to, Yuming to。 (Total since 20 Nov 2012: 690,190)
10 11,664 *11,664 2AM - VOICE

Quote:

In the albums chart, singer Hamasaki Ayumi has reached the no.1 spot with her classical album in 7 years and 9 months, "A Classical." It has been 12 years and 4 months for a classical album, "image" (August 2009) to top the chart. The last time Hamasaki has topped Oricon for single or album was with the mini-album, "FIVE" (August 2011), a year and 4 months ago. Her previous classical album, "MY STORY Classical" (March 2005) peaked at no.4. This is her 19th no.1 album, surpassing Matsuda Seiko (who she previously tied with 18) at 2nd place, behind Matsutoya Yumi with 22 no.1 albums.
http://aramatheydidnt.livejournal.com/4568849.html

Andrenekoi 16th January 2013 08:04 AM

Yuming still on top 10 :000

TITANIC 16th January 2013 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calltome (Post 2963950)
I was talking about how come the best selling album in jpop history only sold 7 million copies. I personally think that 7 million is not enough considering Japans total population. :yes

well you should see this. Japan has $32.3 value per person compared to US only $11.7. China and India have over 1 billion population and how many copies sold for their best selling album in those countries? not even 10 million copies i believe

Quote:

From 2010, Japan is the largest music market in the world and surpassing USA. Japan has the largest total retail value while USA remains the largest total sales unit.
Japan also have the highest value purchase power per person

http://i45.tinypic.com/11cbcsw.png


Source : RIAJ

Amuro_Ray 16th January 2013 11:06 AM

Not bad
Near 4k ahead #2
I am over worried :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 2964147)
Oricon Weekly - Albums (7/1/2013~13/1/2013)

*1 25,049 *25,049 Hamasaki Ayumi - A Classical
*2 21,344 *21,344 Shinomiya Natsuki (Taniyama Kisho) & Miyano Mamoru (Ichinose Tokiya) - Uta no☆Prince Sama♪ Shuffle Unit CD Natsuki & Tokiy
*3 20,692 216,488 Sandaime J Soul Brothers - MIRACLE
*4 20,550 199,667 Ikimonogakari - Baradon
*5 18,721 *18,721 AK-69 - THE INDEPENDENT KING
*6 18,668 140,128 EXILE - EXILE - EXILE BEST HITS -LOVE SIDE/SOUL SIDE- (Total since 5 Dec 2012: 639,603)
*7 15,828 *15,828 Shoujo Jidai – I Got A Boy
*8 15,783 129,222 FUNKY MONKEY BABYS - FUNKY MONKEY BABYS 5
*9 14,250 140,649 Matsutoya Yumi - Matsutoya Yumi 40 Shunen Kinen Best Album Nihon no Koi to, Yuming to。 (Total since 20 Nov 2012: 690,190)
10 11,664 *11,664 2AM - VOICE



http://aramatheydidnt.livejournal.com/4568849.html


KarenPang 16th January 2013 11:33 AM

2nd Week

2nd Day
Position: #21

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2013-01-15/more/4/

Delicious n Bold 16th January 2013 11:41 AM

What a dry chart

TeamAyu2004 16th January 2013 01:39 PM

Go ayumi!! Beat Matsutoya Yumi with over all albums!

SURREAL__RAINBOW 16th January 2013 11:06 PM

I guess it had a good start :) I'm satisfied with these sales!

I hope it reaches 30k though :innocent You never know! :lech

TeamAyu2004 16th January 2013 11:24 PM

it will by next week or at the lastest the week after.

calltome 17th January 2013 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TITANIC (Post 2964163)
well you should see this. Japan has $32.3 value per person compared to US only $11.7. China and India have over 1 billion population and how many copies sold for their best selling album in those countries? not even 10 million copies i believe

Thanks!! :D your awesome!!

in regards to A classical's sales. I'm super happy with it. Ayu didn't get a #1 album in 2012 not even for a week. i personally view A classical as a success whether or not it reaches 30K :yes

Bigtop 17th January 2013 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calltome (Post 2964469)
in regards to A classical's sales. I'm super happy with it. Ayu didn't get a #1 album in 2012 not even for a week. i personally view A classical as a success whether or not it reaches 30K :yes

Agreed :yes

But an album that is not usually very paid attention to...at least #1 is a #1, no matter what

Chibi-Chan 17th January 2013 07:30 AM

congratulations (^-^)

ayumisrael 17th January 2013 11:23 AM

3rd Day
Position: #19

It actually does well for a "remix" album. They usually drop really hard and fast.

YUKARI 17th January 2013 11:43 AM

I'm so happy about this album!! :heart

Delicious n Bold 17th January 2013 12:10 PM

Dang....
Good job classical orchestra guys
And ayu

TeamAyu2004 17th January 2013 01:22 PM

number 19 on 3rd day 2nd week?
not bad at all!

TotsuzenAyumi 18th January 2013 02:32 AM

What? People said A CLASSICAL was going to be crappy? ****! LOL I think not! Thanks Ayu for letting... these sorry .... dislikers for trying to put a weapon towards her for doing wrong and nobody's perfect ... That's it until someone quotes it and talk like an .......

Bad Wolf 18th January 2013 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2964545)
3rd Day
Position: #19

It actually does well for a "remix" album. They usually drop really hard and fast.

i'm gonna attribute that to the fact that so many of her popular old songs are on it, which kinda makes me happy. it just shows how timeless they are and how some people will always love them no matter what.

truehappiness 18th January 2013 03:02 AM

It could also be that some people are rather interested in it because it got #1 and was kinda publicized for it (WOAH PROMOTION) so people may go check it out now?

The 'old classics thing' wouldn't really make sense imo since all her singles were on the last set of remix discs and those didn't do that well compared to this.

marekcarey 18th January 2013 10:28 AM

You said again was flop, LOVE was flop, just because it didn't get #1s. This sells 25k and magically became a top release. Love is in the air.

KarenPang 18th January 2013 10:48 AM

4th day
Position - #18

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2013-01-17/more/3/

AyuWorld 18th January 2013 12:13 PM

woow really not bad, im impressed haha

TeamAyu2004 18th January 2013 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marekcarey (Post 2964834)
You said again was flop, LOVE was flop, just because it didn't get #1s. This sells 25k and magically became a top release. Love is in the air.

to some people if its not a number 1 its a flop. those people dont understand there is more to it then that. (and most are trolls anyways.)


None of her albums/singles/mini's have flopped. They have not done as well as expected, OR they have done WAY more than expected (case in point).

and it went up today, amazing... lol.

Delicious n Bold 18th January 2013 02:53 PM

It's too bad that again marked career lows for ayu...

But lol at A CLASSICAL ******g on the ayu mi x7 series :P
The trance one>>>

TeamAyu2004 18th January 2013 02:59 PM

im really hoping love again sells over 100K

brener 18th January 2013 03:39 PM

^

kinda impossible hehe...

YUKARI 18th January 2013 05:12 PM

^ that's too sad :weep

I can't imagine seeing that her album sales are only about 70-80k! noooo!!

Delicious n Bold 18th January 2013 05:30 PM

Like I predicted before, LOVE is the last Ayu CD to go gold.
Feel free to bookmark me.

truehappiness 18th January 2013 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 2964933)
Like I predicted before, LOVE is the last Ayu CD to go gold.
Feel free to bookmark me.

Unlikely. Projects like this rarely go gold as far as I've seen.

So far we've had LOVE, again, and A Classical (A CLASSICAL ALBUM DARN IT NO ONE THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING GOLD OKAY) in the span of 90s days so it's not the end of the world yet.

If LOVE again doesn't do well, then we can maybe start panicking.

spanishfan 18th January 2013 10:51 PM

On one hand, LOVE again might sell well because it had "singles" wich promote it. Also it have the whole 15th anniversary thing around it.
On the other hand, there have been many dramas around her, they might get less sales.

I guess it may sell about 100k like LOVE did.

TeamAyu2004 19th January 2013 12:26 AM

its so strange that we really havent seen anything from this 'break' up that mmight have happened...

truehappiness 19th January 2013 01:35 AM

Eh, we have no idea what actually happened besides that tweet from Maro. I hope we get an update soon.

TeamAyu2004 19th January 2013 01:47 AM

^ thats why i said 'might have happened'.

I dont think they did and Maro was just bing drunk and some drama filledness came about.
Im just wondering if japanese fans went all crazy like some people on here did.

truehappiness 19th January 2013 01:56 AM

I think they were definitely wondering what was going on... but like them, it's kind of just like "Well, what now?".

ayumisrael 19th January 2013 11:22 AM

5th Day
Position: #21

miru2590 19th January 2013 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2965065)
^ thats why i said 'might have happened'.

I dont think they did and Maro was just bing drunk and some drama filledness came about.
Im just wondering if japanese fans went all crazy like some people on here did.

It could be 4 things
1. Maro was drunk
2. Maro was mad because she didn't take him with her to LA
3.they are waiting for ayumis new album to come out for publicity.
4. Avex got in contact with Maro and told him to shut his mouth
I think is better for her not to talk people might forget about the whole thing.

calltome 19th January 2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miru2590 (Post 2965164)
It could be 4 things
1. Maro was drunk
2. Maro was mad because she didn't take him with her to LA
3.they are waiting for ayumis new album to come out for publicity.
4. Avex got in contact with Maro and told him to shut his mouth
I think is better for her not to talk people might forget about the whole thing.

Love your multiple choice!!:love:love

adantatu2 20th January 2013 04:55 AM

Maybe the 4 options are true, lol. But i think this:

Quote:

4. Avex got in contact with Maro and told him to shut his mouth
is probably 80% true

KarenPang 20th January 2013 11:37 AM

6th Day
Position: #28

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2013-01-19/more/4/

Bad Wolf 20th January 2013 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanishfan (Post 2965028)
On one hand, LOVE again might sell well because it had "singles" wich promote it. Also it have the whole 15th anniversary thing around it.
On the other hand, there have been many dramas around her, they might get less sales.

I guess it may sell about 100k like LOVE did.

it'll probably have the britney effect. remember when her life was a ****ing mess back a few years ago? and they propped her up in the studio to actually 'sing' and make new music? with all that drama around her, she still sold pretty well. drama makes people craptalk you, but they still buy your stuff lol

Delicious n Bold 20th January 2013 03:10 PM

# 28?
Top 30!

RadnasticReggie 20th January 2013 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 2964147)
Oricon Weekly - Albums (7/1/2013~13/1/2013)

*1 25,049 *25,049 Hamasaki Ayumi - A Classical
*2 21,344 *21,344 Shinomiya Natsuki (Taniyama Kisho) & Miyano Mamoru (Ichinose Tokiya) - Uta no☆Prince Sama♪ Shuffle Unit CD Natsuki & Tokiy
*3 20,692 216,488 Sandaime J Soul Brothers - MIRACLE
*4 20,550 199,667 Ikimonogakari - Baradon
*5 18,721 *18,721 AK-69 - THE INDEPENDENT KING
*6 18,668 140,128 EXILE - EXILE - EXILE BEST HITS -LOVE SIDE/SOUL SIDE- (Total since 5 Dec 2012: 639,603)
*7 15,828 *15,828 Shoujo Jidai – I Got A Boy
*8 15,783 129,222 FUNKY MONKEY BABYS - FUNKY MONKEY BABYS 5
*9 14,250 140,649 Matsutoya Yumi - Matsutoya Yumi 40 Shunen Kinen Best Album Nihon no Koi to, Yuming to。 (Total since 20 Nov 2012: 690,190)
10 11,664 *11,664 2AM - VOICE



http://aramatheydidnt.livejournal.com/4568849.html



Pretty decent then.

TeamAyu2004 20th January 2013 11:29 PM

top 30 in its 2nd week... I gess not bad for a remix album!
I wonder how ayu-mi-x 8 did.

Delicious n Bold 20th January 2013 11:49 PM

^ ayu mi x 8 exists?

TeamAyu2004 21st January 2013 12:52 AM

oh, sorry! I meant 7! lol

KarenPang 21st January 2013 10:33 AM

Out of the top 30 on the 7th day / 2nd week

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2013-01-20/more/4/

ayumisrael 21st January 2013 11:06 AM

7th Day
Position: #41

Delicious n Bold 21st January 2013 03:01 PM

Oh dear

It just keeps on dropping, ne.
It didn't drop as much as I thought.

That was painful to compose.

TeamAyu2004 21st January 2013 04:03 PM

lol, that was a huge drop. =(

ayumisrael 22nd January 2013 10:53 AM

2nd Week
Position: #30
Official Sales: 3,639
Official Total Sales: 28,688

3rd Week

1st Day
Position: #28

AyuGAME 22nd January 2013 12:27 PM

I'm happy with the sales, concerning it's just a remix album...i think it will get to 35-40k in the long term which is good

TeamAyu2004 22nd January 2013 12:33 PM

nice!!

LONJJONG 22nd January 2013 12:43 PM

wow from the top to the bottom.... O___O"
But it's a good sale compared to the previous remix albums.

brener 22nd January 2013 04:17 PM

here we go 30k!

ayumisrael 25th January 2013 11:57 AM

4th Day
Position: #42

I knew I still need to check the dailies since A Classical does better than it should. ^^

TeamAyu2004 25th January 2013 12:41 PM

it is doing rather well.!!

truehappiness 26th January 2013 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LONJJONG (Post 2966338)
wow from the top to the bottom.... O___O"
But it's a good sale compared to the previous remix albums.

Remix/rearrange albums don't usually have long chart lives.

brener 26th January 2013 05:54 AM

im rly proud of the numbers

ayumisrael 29th January 2013 03:23 PM

3rd Week
Position: #66
Official Sales: 1,547
Official Total Sales: 30,235

4th Week

1st Day
Position: #46

TeamAyu2004 29th January 2013 03:29 PM

these numbers are really nice for this type of album!

brener 29th January 2013 05:11 PM

wow thats rly impressive!!

AyuGAME 30th January 2013 01:17 AM

35k please..or maybe 40k

SolarAngel 30th January 2013 07:11 AM

Considering that A Classical sold around 80k when Ayu was really popular, this is doing pretty well!

SURREAL__RAINBOW 30th January 2013 07:51 AM

Super pleased!! :yes

ayumisrael 6th February 2013 12:20 PM

4th Week
Position: #117
Official Sales: 864
Official Total Sales: 31,099

TeamAyu2004 6th February 2013 12:34 PM

still seems to be selling rather well, which is surprising for a remix album!

Surreal17 6th February 2013 12:37 PM

30k copies sold is really good.

brener 7th February 2013 06:21 AM

omg. im so happy!!

ayumisrael 13th February 2013 12:06 PM

5th Week
Position: #115
Official Sales: 911
Official Total Sales: 32,010

adantatu2 14th February 2013 02:19 AM

Sales are higher, yay !! XD

brener 14th February 2013 03:41 AM

thanks for the update!

i think some people bought it with LOVE again :]

ayumisrael 27th February 2013 12:13 PM

6th Week
Position: #252
Official Sales: 407
Official Total Sales: 33,017

brener 28th February 2013 03:20 AM

oh so it's actually alive... thats good

i hope it will reach the 10th week!!

Gkone01 28th February 2013 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2980228)
6th Week
Position: #252
Official Sales: 407
Official Total Sales: 33,017

You forget one week, it's the seventh !

Here's the actual 6th week sales
6th Week
Position: #156
Official Sales: 600
Official Total Sales: 32,610

ayumisrael 28th February 2013 10:23 AM

Thank you I added that! Sorry.


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