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Im comfused because:
1) I don't like the fact that the moral is "fatty won't get love till she get super skinny" buuuuuuuuut 2) I don't like being fatty, and I think it's super motivational... aaaaaaaaand it's pretty cheaaaaaap and american.... buuuuuuuut... super entertaining! :O + finaly something diffrent and pretty funny. the fatty girl is super cute. |
The song itself is about Ayu's own missteps when it comes to her relationships. Ayu might have used the PV to satirize the lengths people go through to search for their love. That could explain the slapstick nature of the video, especially Ayu's bizarre acting at the end. But who knows?
People are so butthurt that Ayu seems to be embracing the notion that thin=desirable... Well, I don't wanna delve too deeply in the biology of human beings, because that's an entirely different discussion altogether... But when it comes to mating, we look for two things: people that radiate health and symmetry. |
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If other AHS members have others interpretations, please post them. ^^ ------ I don't think that a funny pv need an expensive budget. Feel the love is simple & it works for me. Also, a movie, a pv, a book that is funny, could have a deep meaning. Both aren't incompatible. |
Yay, I liked it a lot! Main actress is extremely cool :)
This PV is definitely quite inspirational, and I see no other moral than "every thing is in your own hand". |
It seems like they were going for "Fat Amy" out of Pitch Perfect, who is hilarious, as is this girl! Not gonna bother trying to defend this video or song because people are gonna cry no matter what. But I enjoyed it, wish there was a bit more Ayu though.
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LOL this pv is so.. I don't know :laugh
I need to watch it again before expressing an opinion~ Those final seconds of her acting like that are hilarious.. :roflmao |
Well, I liked the scenes with Ayu looking all b-girl cute, but that's about it. I didn't find it offensive, though I could see why some would. I just didn't find it terribly funny. I feel like it almost tries too hard to be funny. I'm never gonna watch this PV again :P
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Well on the offensive side of things, this is a generalization, but this man is a muscle hunk. He works his ASS OFF to get that body. It only goes to say that someone who works half as hard should be with him. If this man was obese then the girl wouldn't be going crazy over him to begin with. So in a way, she is in it for his body too.
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I JUST WANTED TO SEE THAT FITNESS TRAINER AND HE IS IN IT FOR TEN SECONDS BYE AYU
The animation scenes were so stupid and cheap. But everything else was really fun and silly to watch. The main actress reminds me of Adele though when she first gets her make-up done. But the moment I saw her hair-color I KNEW she was going to turn into Ayu in the final scene. Meh. It was a fun and cute PV, and the song actually grew onto me. |
Wasn't sure of the video when I first saw it, and I'm still a bit on the fence about it, though I do think some parts are funny. I don't think it looks cheap, it seems like they were trying to go for a certain kind of look. Watching it a second time it seems like the guy knew her from before but didn't recognize her, so he's surprised by her new look. Their hug at the end felt more friendly than anything else, so I'm not sure if he's supposed to be her boyfriend.
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I hate to say this but I hate this PV even more than I hated the Komuro-style song. I'll try to forget this and look forward:headache |
At least the video does the song justice (both are dog shit).
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SO! I absolutely love the "I don't give a sh*t" feeling etc... It is incredibly fresh and I applause ayu for giving me something like that. The "bad" points IMO are: -Everything is incredibly cheap (don't get me started on the animated parts), and gross (the lady running with close ups on her body) etc... It is both a good thing (it made me laugh, how could they do something that bad?) and a bad thing, because I could imagine something similar with the same subject, but less cheap in its making, something that looks good but still funny. It could have been a really good clubbing PV. This PV had so much potential. In the end it is just funny, that's it. -The end. I don't get it. Why ayu had to play the role (get an asian lady from the beginning...)? And the message is weird, even if I don't really care. So I love when she surprise me, and I could have been more surprised! It is just that she could have something similar but artistically good, areal clubbing PV and not just a funny and cheap PV. |
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There are nothing to analyse in this MV ! It's just a funny clip who could be a scene of an humoristic movie about love ^^ The animate scenes looks a little cheap but otherwise like I said it looks like an american movie =)
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There IS definitely a problem with the ending.
It is so unclear and can lead to bad interpretations that can stain ayu's image. I personally expected to see the fat girl with the guy just before the end to underline the fact that the "ayu persona" is just the way the other girl sees herself now. Like that movie with Gwyneth Paltrow. Another good ending would have been the girl REALLY turning into a bimbo, then when she sees the man at the end, he is kissing a fat girl or sharing fried chicken with her haha... It would have been way funnier and clearer this way. Yet the "you can get what you want with hard work" message wouldn't be there. |
worst PV ever, Ayu... you can do it so much better! I'm speechless.... :thud
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It makes me think of that video (I wanna say it's Avicii but I'm not sure that's right - it's totally escaping me right now!) which features the girl talking to her counsellor saying something like "I go to work everyday, I go home, all I'm really doing is dying" except that's a really good video! (I could do without Ayu's appearance at the end too - it seems so tacked on. And so much for James Ellis "starring" in the PV) I hope Merry-go-Round is better. |
My only problem, is that. You know, Ayu could have gotten the EXACT SAME message across, if she had just starred in it herself.
She didn't even have to be overweight :/ It could have just been Ayu at the beginning, maybe in boring clothes or something, crushing on the guy. Then she gets determined to be her best and she runs everywhere. Then at the end the guy ignores the her before, but then she comes out all pretty as her real self, and they're all happy. Same message. No body shaming. ---------------------- I think some people are taking the "lose weight" interpretations too literally. I don't think AT ALL, that, it was Ayu's message to us. I don't think it was her intention to offend or say "you have to look like ___________." The problem is that she was stupid and inconsiderate when pushing her own message. Someone pointed this out somewhere else too, but the video is also, a bit of a disservice to men. Saying that, they wouldn't notice a person who isn't -whatever ideal- of beauty. The ending is completely abhorrent. I agree that this is for the Japanese market, and it fits. But it's still really disappointing to see in someone like Ayu, who you'd think would be above being so petty. |
^ she kinda did that in my names WOMEN. Nerdy and insecure to hottie winning everyone over. But I agree, she should have done it. Or at least done something slightly more like Shallow Hal(the age old movie) make it more obvious that thats how HE sees her, and that she still looks like she did in the start to everyone who doesnt know her.
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yeah, I just feel like the "this is how he sees her now" interpretation is really slighted by how he ignores the fat girl when she calls him. Why didn't he just turn around, and then -yey- she's beautiful Ayu now.
At least it would have better insinuated that she's the same person. And that's completely ignoring the question of why she has to turn into ayu in the first place. But anyway. I don't even really think we need interpretations tbh. I think the message is obvious that it's work hard, and be the best you. It's just done in really bad taste. |
I didn't think the girl was laughable. You people are over-analyzing the PV and you are looking way too much into it. It's fine if you're overweight, but people who are as fat as this girl is need to loose weight for their own good. So no matter what you see and how you look at it, being fat isn't healthy and in all honesty it doesn't look pretty either. I doubt many would turn around, I know I prolly wouldn't...it's not something to be proud of, but different people are attracted to different things and shouldn't be judged the same way they aren't judging the people who are fine with being fat.
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first you complain about boyfriend-girlfriend stories and when you get this, you wanna have a video where ayu gets her dream guy?
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^^There is a difference between someone just having a preference, and then someone having to become someone else just to be accepted.
And, it's fine if someone's overweight, but just not THIS overweight? How fat can people be or not be? What gives you the right to make the decision that someone else needs to lose weight? Nothing lol I don't think there is over-analyzing going on lol It's right in your face. Other people were already like "omg people are gonna take this negatively!" Hmm. I wonder why that is! Maybe because everything is right in front of you. Completely obvious, brainless, and bad. Whatever. I'm glad that there are still people with brains at this forum. Sometimes I think that, the real deciding factor in some of us changing and no longer liking her PVs, is that we've grown up, and no longer accept bullshit. I'm done. Let's just say that she falls in love with the balloon guy, and then Ayu just randomly appears. That makes her look better. I can do that. |
I'm shocked how people are overreacting over a stupid PV. As if Ayu was singing "Feel the lawl" while choking puppies and eat hamburgers in front of starving children.
I'm happy she's finally trying something new, even though it turned out as a cheap PV. Maybe the inner beauty~ message was delivered better on how beautiful you are PV, but I don't really see anything offensive on Feel the love PV neither. Nobody is making fun of the fat girl, she's determinated to make herself feels better. She looks way better than Ayu who's acting stupid at the end. I don't know guys, seriously you're taking too seriously this damn PV. Or maybe my point of view is different from yours, and I'm ok with this :shrug |
My only concern was I felt it played on Japanese stereotypes of Americans a little too much. I think the actress feeling comfortable to parody her weight and stuff is great, but I think the video just buys into Japanese stereotypes that Americans are fat slobs. The cartoon of the girl doesn't depict her in a flattering light at all.
At the end, I wasn't sure what the point was. I didn't see how the video tied into the song at all. Sure, the girl danced... sure, she felt love. But this video sincerely lacks the substance of even something like crossroad or MOON. I'm so happy Ayumi is back with a single, but I'm disappointed the PVs were getting better with Missing and S4U, and then this happened. |
^ Very stereotypical :p like how about she dries her sweat with a chicken drumstick? :p
edit: for the people who are yelling at people for taking it too serious, why are you bothered by the discussion? Let people discuss what they want, it's only natural to be curious about this very un-ayu like choices she's made in this pv. I don't think any of us are going around with a gruge for ayu after this vid, people just wanna explain how they interpreted this. It's not Miley Cyrus who you can discuss with all your friends, its ayu, and most of us might not have so many friends who are into her they can discuss this with, so it all ends up here on the forum :p |
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I know what you mean, but I read posts that are really REALLY overanalyzes the PV. In both good and bad way. And I don't get it, because I don't see anything meaningful nor offensive. But that's my opinion. If there are people who can express their dislike for this PV, I can say people are taking the PV too seriously as well. |
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Plus, it's all well and good to lose weight for your health / self-esteem, but losing weight simply to impress some shallow d-bag of a guy is a terrible message to send. I felt really happy during the scene when the woman got her hair and makeup done. She looked great and, more importantly, happy and confident! But then she just transformed into Ayu in a really tacky dress. Wth is that? A better ending would have been the woman running right past the guy and continuing to have fun with her life. I'm disappointed in Ayu. Seriously. |
^If she went for the balloon guy then no one transformed to anyone.
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And I forgot the guy with balloons completely. I was under the impression that fat girl wanted to be with him but now that someone mentioned that other dude, I think the girl was in love with him and not with this fitness guy with too much muscles on. Muscle guy was Ayu's man and the balloon guy fat girl's. :D It makes more sense too since the ending just doesn't make any sense. :D
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Didn't the girl had a photo of this guy she was looking adoringly? If the guy in the photo isn't the muscle model, than there we have the answer. (I don't bother to check, because I dislike the PV for cheapness, not the storyline, so I don't feel like watching it again, lol)
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^Yes it's the muscle guys who is on the pic. But you can take as she fell in love with another guys (balloons) at the end. After all, the first one doesn't pay attention to her the first time he turned over.
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I love the fact that people brings different point of view and interpretations about a same pv. |
lol what if they both see each other as a hot person? lol Love's blind after all xD would make perfect sense xD
on the other hand like people said she went after the baloon dude and the hottie turned around to see wth just happened there xD |
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The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. There are a lot of ways to show someone "working hard" besides having them exercise and zooming in on jiggling fat rolls. There are clearer ways to show someone "accepting themselves" than to have a fat American woman transform into a hot Asian chick. The animation segments make the woman look like a reptilian freak and the humor is done at her expense. Ayu is just doing some bad, overdone acting at the end, not trying to be satirical. The fat woman didn't get with the balloon guy, either. She wasn't even looking at him. It's amazing what some of you people come up with to make this video match your perception of Ayu as someone who can do no wrong. |
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Either way, I enjoyed watching it. I don't think of it as offensive at all, even though I knew for sure fans would flip the fuck out by seeing the stereotypical fat American girl. I don't take this PV seriously, there's no difference because honestly Ayu is still bizarre as always. Is there any PV that she's not doing something weird? |
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You know some of you who are trying to defend woman in the video because of her weight are truly doing her a disservice.
Yes, some of it was a little offensive (the chicken wing for example) and the ending is questionable. But throughout the entire PV she was funny (entertaining at least), charismatic and clearly confident. After a while I didn't even notice her weight. And I think that was the point of the video. At the end of it all, whether ayu was suppose to be her inner beauty or not, it was a fun, lighthearted video. It's not that serious. And by the way, there is nothing wrong with wanting to improve yourself by working out. That's nothing to be ashamed of. As far as health is concerned, being overweight is not a good thing. It's not fat-shaming if the character in the video wanted to lose weight. And it wasn't the only thing she did to improve herself, she also went to the beauty shop and bought a new dress. Are we suppose to feel she was shamed because of that as well? I'm not saying the video was perfectly executed, there were a lot of things that could have been done better. But some of you are being dramatic |
I was super afraid to watch this cuz it looked cheap just from the thumbnail, but tbh even tho it was ayu looking glitz and dramatic and epic, i really enjoyed it! It was really funny and ayu looked amazing in the short parts she was in ^^ It was a nice berath of fresh air
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I'm glad this PV turned out the way it did.
If it were a generic glitter pt.7 / random Lady DynamiteNaNaNa club crawl, I don't think anyone would be remotely as interested. I know people say they would have preferred it, but come on. I don't think ANYONE wanted that kind of thing. |
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And you know, the video is fine overall, about you know, working out and wanting to be what you think is your best. Like I said, it was just done in bad taste, or perhaps, just to cater to that market. The other thing is. You know I said this earlier, but it's interesting to me, how seriously or not seriously, people take the little things in our cultures and languages that marginalize people. Like I said, what if I was going around saying "omg this music video is so retarded". Using "retarded" as a synonym for "stupid". Now some people take that sort of thing very seriously, and other people don't. In any case, I was happy with what someone just posted at another forum: Quote:
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I really don't get why people are on such a crusade to find justification in being so offended by this video. It's veering into Tumblr-privilege levels to be honest.
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^Well, it works both ways. Some people are hell bent on justifying it, too. Both sides are getting intense. But, this is a forum. What other purpose are we here for?
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Obesity is a much larger issue than people who have no self control and eat too much, therefore are somehow lesser beings. I don't think that we should be saying, "Oh, honey eat all you want and get fat, being fat is sexy anyway!". No, we should be getting people the help that they need. Find out why they are so dependent on food. In the meantime, they do need to learn to love themselves, for the person that they are and the body that they are in. When they finally decide to lose weight, it should be to live a healthier, longer life. No to gain the attention of the opposite sex. Maybe you didn't mean it that way, but then I would say the meaning of your post was more poorly presented than the PV. Quote:
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For a lot of people though, this is the 'end of Ayu' as they know it and her 'worst video ever'. It's just one music video in a sea of many to come.
It's a bit like when Santino Rice said that Alyssa Edwards had the 'worst dress on the five seasons he has been on the show', when there have clearly been worse. There are a handful of PVs that Ayu has that are probably worse than this. |
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I'm glad i don't have high hopes for this PV, is kinda funny, but honestly i will never watch again this video because ayu is just there like 10 seconds on a screen. |
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Also, Alyssa is the BEST DRAG QUEEN EVER BETTER THAN ALL OTHERS WHO HAVE BEEN AND THOSE WHO WILL COME. Seriously, though. I love Alyssa. She's my favorite contestant from that show. Backrolls, baby! |
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Of course, doing new stuff is a good thing, if the thing is done properly (which in this case wasn't for me). She could have worked a club party concept very well in my opinion, but, well, it wasn't her vision this time, lol. |
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But really, I think it's better to have people saying that this is the 'best video ever' even though it probably isn't (this happens a lot with GaGa fans I think) than people who are always saying this is the end of a career. (I don't think anyone has said this is the best video ever anyway...) Can you imagine that people were saying that Ayu was 'over' during the Memorial address / MY STORY era? We even got these sorts of comments around the time glitter/fated came out and how that was her 'worst single ever' up until that point. No no no! I'm looking forward to what else the Merry-go-round PV will bring since it seems like it could balance out the 'fun/crazy' that Feel the love has both musically and visually. Feel the love is like the crazy sister and Merry-go-round is the one that wrangles her in. (On a related note, this entire thing is reminding me of the "Kristin Cabarararariariri" thing that Manila did that Shangela got utterly offended over because "Manila isn't Chinese/Japanese".) |
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I think this just really depends on each person's perspective. To me it just always seems like Ayu's message is much more greater than all the bull about being fat or skinny. That's why I don't care much about the PV, her lyrics are the most important, and we should consider the lyrics more to the song. |
This isn't like main stream news media where we pretend everything is equal. :laugh
Positivity is better than negativity. And even if you don't like something, there's no reason to be so hostile about it. |
Exactly.
I'm pretty sure "its bullshit" isn't a very good discussion starter. It's about the same as "I hate this and I never want to watch it again. Worst ever.", really. I could see Ayu-from-a-few-years-ago doing this video, but the furthest back is probably 2005 since she never really got all silly until around then. I mean we got Startin' and Beautiful Fighters in the same year that she decided she wanted to go with a bit of a Western and adult flair to her 'image' compared to what she had done from 1998-2004. |
I don't get how a white fat girl becomes ayu (an slim asian girl) within 5 minutes.
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I loved the lead. She was way too cute. I would have liked it better if it was her in the end getting the guy because when they showed her all dolled up with the white dress after getting her hair done, I was like, "there you go, she looks adorable!"
I know some people felt it was cheap. I liked the animation, it was so cute. I thought the end was a tad superficial, but then I get the whole "gotta work for what you want" kind of thing. |
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I liked the animation, except for the part where she was on the broom and it looked like she had no pants on. Like. what. |
I guess I just don't have expensive tastes at all because I didn't find the animation cheap at all. It felt appropriate considering the silliness of the video.
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The struggle is real. WTF is that pink thing that is floating on the building when she falls? |
^ HAHAHAHAHAHA I love that part!
In You & Me, ayu got knocked down. This time it was a poor jogger lol. |
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Gaga fans... Not even gonna touch that fire. And Shangela is just a booger. Manila is sickening. My favorite Heather <3. Oh, no. Carmen is. :P |
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Also here's the pink thing. http://i.imgur.com/brsSAAE.jpg Is it Ayu? And I may or may not have met RuPaul a month ago. Heathers are great. February 2014. |
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(Honestly, I wish they photoshopped Kuu a little more. Or at least did her make up better. I stan for her, but sometimes I think she's kinda fug.) OMG you met my true Queen I love her omg I hate you RuPaul owns my soul luv you Ru pics or it didn't happen. |
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OMG, Ru <3333333333 Where did you meet her? |
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Is there another twist or something? Or did avex just get stupid and upload the full version but not realize it at all? I'm confused and also amused if there is a teeny bit more to the PV. And at Ru's first convention. |
How high was Ayu when she approved the concept for this video?
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I really think people need to stop bringing up the Sunrise/Sunset covers.
We don't need to be reminded of how bad they are, and we don't need to be reminded of who thinks they're good. Cause. :/ It would actually be cool if this was the short version, or some other version, and the real pv had more ayu in it. |
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Man, the animated parts are SO bad they are amazing! You have to be a genius to do something that cheap haha. :luv2 This Pv is really a breath of fresh air. |
I thought the pv was cute, funny, and different. although I was shocked the majority of the time, I still managed to enjoy it. out of this single, merry go round is my fav. track so feel the love, to me, is a bonus.
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I'm myself fond of that era and you can trust me, the animation used for the PV is really (really) cheap haha! But it was obviously done to look this way. This can be the only reason. |
Interesting.
Well maybe they went for this look just so it stays funny...or something lol |
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I don't see why you would be lol
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From what I'm reading on mixi, some Japanese fans don't like it, some do. But most find it interesting.
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I hope they at least think it's funny or cute. That's the reaction I saw outside of the usual "oh my god Ayu what are you doing" posts.
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my way of thinking too, how dull wouldn't this forum be if we had to praise everything ayu did? |
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Like... how else could she have done this PV? What could she have done differently with the arrangement of Feel the love? Though there are things that are reasonable and those that are not, haha. |
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Fall down a fat betch, get up a flop? *CancelsGymMembership* ayumi's career has flatlined. Her next Single should be called, "Jaws Of Life", because that's what it's going to take. B-Side: DNR |
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i think that the fat girl wants to have an ideal man like james, so she works hard to be thin and pretty, so that man like james could accept her, but then she realizes, is that all worth it? so she decides to just be herself, becoming pretty on her own, then she accidentally meets james at the park, from my point of view, james doesn't even look at the back, at her.. he just feels like someone calling him, at the same time, the fat girl accidentally bumps into another man who brings balloons who probably is the man who likes fat girl, therefore the balloons flow away which mean she's free from all the pressure for becoming pretty and she finally meets the guy who can accept her for who she is. then james ends up with pretty and sexy ayu.
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Why are people saying the guy from the pv was shallow? He barely appears on the pv! As far as we know, the girl never said she liked him to begin with.
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It seems like he knows her. He ignores her when she "calls on him" as chubby girl, but the minute she turns into ayu he turns around, goes wow and gives her a hug. It seems like the typical shallow character
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I dunno, I think the video reminds me a lot of media censorship.
Like who are gonna be the people who watch the video anyways? Probably Ayu fans, and they're females in their mid to late 20s or even early 30s. And then you get to the point of what would THEY think or perceive from watching this. If this were a video for kids then yeah maybe given their level of analysis the video could come across very morally wrong. But these are adult women. If one in her late 20s still couldn't figure out that you really shouldn't be going to such extremes to get your man cos you know, he doesn't deserve you, then isn't that pretty sad. Also, the video could go a lot worse. They could have the main lead go for liposuction, or starving herself, both which I think portray weight loss and the desperation for it A LOT WORSE than doing something healthy like going for a run. But it could've been a lot better. SheFliesHigher I remember, mentioned something about them putting out this message without considering the bigger impact, and that it was done in such a shit execution manner. Yeah I agree with that. The message could've been brought a lot smarter and less "offensive" but hey we've already watched it. And reading the comments and how most of us KNOW that it's wrong to lose weight for the sake of getting accepted or for another person already proves to me that a bulk of Ayu fans have their own set of ethos and morals to live by. Heck she's a pop star not our mom, she can't TEACH us what to do with our lives. I watched the PV cos it's Ayu and it's new and I found it super funny and endearing. It makes me want to go for a run (which I often do) and it's something good to laugh at. I didn't watch it with a thought that "man I hope Ayu teaches me a life lesson like how she does in her other PVs" because she doesn't do that and I'm independent enough as a person to know what is right and what is wrong. The James Ellis guy was portrayed as a douchebag and Ayu stupidly decided that she's the epitome of a universally accepted lady... she made a mistake, so be it. Also some of the theories are beginning to look like they're made out of thin air. Really, the balloon guy? We didn't even get to see his face, that's how insignificant he is to the story. So how can it be that the main lead "fell in love" with a man (is it even a man) whom we don't even see in the video? You can't just come up with conclusions when there's nothing to refer to -_-|| I don't care about the "cheap" animations cos the video was so blatantly a joke already that it doesn't matter. I dunno. I laughed at certain scenes, and I loved it, I really loved it that this lady had enough confidence in herself to laugh and make fun of herself. I want to know her and befriend her. Because in this 5:34 long video, I thought she was the epitome of sexy and confidence, not the bimbotic Ayu that appeared in the last ten seconds and got the attention of what is stereotypically a superficial male who goes for big boobs and hot bodies. |
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@waterballoon I agree on a lot of points, but the reason people are picking on the
"Morally wrong" message in this PV is because ayu has almost always had a deeper and thoughtful message in her PVS. She has always cheered on the individual and said be yourself. |
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