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Toniayu123 24th October 2021 03:26 PM

So she posted pics of the physicals copies of the best album on insta so it means it is already done, BUT she’s also posting she’s in the studio recording as well. WHAT ARE HER PLANS I WANT TO KNOOW

thinkingoutloud89 24th October 2021 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Toniayu123 (Post 3345413)
So she posted pics of the physicals copies of the best album on insta so it means it is already done, BUT she’s also posting she’s in the studio recording as well. WHAT ARE HER PLANS I WANT TO KNOOW

Looks more like a proof to me

edit: for all those that are not at the 25th already, you can listen to a preview for CH here:
https://music.apple.com/jp/album/159...pp=itunes&ls=1

roxaskh2fm 25th October 2021 09:47 AM

Loved this studio version of Cutie Honey.

Always liked the performance from Black Cherry Tour. Very glad that she finally released this.

minkAYuko 25th October 2021 12:08 PM



Available everywhere!

Darkifrit 25th October 2021 04:57 PM

^ Great version!
I hope there are more of this in the new best of!

_XXKK_ 25th October 2021 06:36 PM

https://i.ibb.co/1643TdF/image.png
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https://i.ibb.co/ScDPZSD/image.png

thinkingoutloud89 25th October 2021 07:29 PM

I'm sorry - she looks beautiful but that fake "I'm holding a glass of juice sexy/deep" is kinda weird if you look to long at it XD

Toniayu123 25th October 2021 08:09 PM

LOL the holy juice

jean-baptiste 25th October 2021 08:34 PM

Question about the FC version - would you still need to buy it through mumo? And if memory serves me, mumo only ships to Japan right?

KarenPang 25th October 2021 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jean-baptiste (Post 3345453)
Question about the FC version - would you still need to buy it through mumo? And if memory serves me, mumo only ships to Japan right?

Orders for the fanclub version for BEST ~2000-2020~ already closed on 30th Sept

And yes mu-mo only shipped domestically within Japan so you need to use a middleman for help , or if you're lucky , if you personally know people in Japan itself so that they can help you without incurring additional charges

thinkingoutloud89 25th October 2021 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 3345454)
Orders for the fanclub version for BEST ~2000-2020~ already closed on 30th Sept

And yes mu-mo only shipped domestically within Japan so you need to use a middleman for help , or if you're lucky , if you personally know people in Japan itself so that they can help you without incurring additional charges

U can still order this version, just without the FC nametag.

+ mumo has an option for world-wide buyers, so does her FC

Gustavopc 25th October 2021 10:16 PM

CDJapan also seems to be selling the mu-mo edition, I've seen some people sharing the link on twitter, but I didnt check it myself. And @thinkingoutloud89 is right, Sep 30th was the time limit for ordering it with a name tag, but you can still order it without the plate.

Darkifrit 25th October 2021 10:32 PM

^ can I have the link please?
I can’t find it myself

Just checked I’m not even able to find the regular edition on CD Japan…

thinkingoutloud89 25th October 2021 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkifrit (Post 3345459)
^ can I have the link please?
I can’t find it myself

Just checked I’m not even able to find the regular edition on CD Japan…

If you type in her name it was the third thing on the list

http://https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEODAI-113176?s_ssid=e463b36176ef296eb9

Darkifrit 26th October 2021 01:09 AM

^ Weird I don’t have the same view.
Thank you! Still need tracklist to consider if the limited edition is worthing $ 200.

thinkingoutloud89 26th October 2021 01:44 AM

^well, you get almost all a-sides (or all) + the Pachinko songs.
I guess we will get about 8 to 12 "self-covers" and the rest will probably be remastered.
Seeing this is two years in the making I actually expect even more but don't want to get my hopes up high.

The box she posted looks lovely too. It would be a shame to pass this and I would probably regret it later.

Darkifrit 26th October 2021 01:58 AM

^ Yeah right!
Curious with the Blu-rays. Still hope one Blu-ray would be an extra bonus like rare performances or something else. YouTube is enough for me to watch PV.

I hope at least one CD is self cover. This is the biggest interest I have for the release.
I wonder if she will redo all her debut songs and until which period she will revisit.

thinkingoutloud89 26th October 2021 02:03 AM

^yeah I'm also all for new versions as we have a lot of best-compilations already. I said before, in an age where we rarely listen to the physical CDs anyways, we don't need the same versions released again and again. They can do that digitally.

As for the Blu-Ray, I actually hope for a complete collection of all the PVs. Then again, all the album tracks will be missing.

Darkifrit 26th October 2021 02:36 AM

^ so right I don’t even have a CD player anymore at home haha

Is it me or regular version is not yet in CD Japan?
Only first press bonus is a postcard ?

KarenPang 26th October 2021 08:26 AM

BEST~2000-2020~ is listed on Neowing , which's CDJapan's domestic site

https://www.neowing.co.jp/product/RZCD-77457

I think the reason why BEST~2000-2020~ is not listed on CDJapan is because of avex's silly export rules , yet again

If not why is that I don't see V6's final release & their final studio album listed on CDJapan , same reason as before as avex distributes their stuff

And yes BEST~2000-2020~1st press bonus item is a postcard

jean-baptiste 26th October 2021 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud89 (Post 3345461)
If you type in her name it was the third thing on the list

http://https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEODAI-113176?s_ssid=e463b36176ef296eb9

Thanks for this! :love

minkAYuko 26th October 2021 10:27 AM

Omg all my concerns in these posts! I don't know what to do, it's a collection item and the box it's beautiful and I want to support her but... dunno what to do.. and time it's running out T_T...

it's either the boxset or new airpods... dunno what to do... what are you thinking guys? what you decided to do!

Isicio 26th October 2021 12:39 PM

The regular version is on yesasia

https://www.yesasia.com/global/best-...0-en/info.html

I hope cdjapn will list it. I don't want to spend 70€ on yesasia for free shipping.

I emailed cdjapan asking for the best regular version, so I'm waiting for and answer soon.

Ok, I received the answer:


We are sorry to inform you the item you requested is not available on CDJapan.
It is because the record company does not allow to sell to oversea.

So what the f*ck? Avex really? I'm so sad I can't get it trought cdjapan. I search on play-asia but nothing. So I have to spend 76€ from yesasia to get it with an ayu towel. I hope I don't have to pay taxes when I received it.

Darkifrit 26th October 2021 01:07 PM

^ Thanks for the info. This is weird that CD Japan propose the fan club edition but not the regular one…
I guess I’ll go with Yesasia as well.
An westerns fans order to Neowing without having Japanese address ?

Corvina 26th October 2021 01:35 PM

The FC/mu-mo version is up on CD Japan's proxy service (middleman), that's why that works. Somebody asked for it to be listed.
You have to pay extra fees on top of the item price because of it as well.
You can do the same with the regular edition, buying through CD Japan's proxy service e.g. from amazon.jp, but it's going to be more expensive as well.

Karen already mentioned the overseas shipping restrictions on the last page.

KarenPang 26th October 2021 01:52 PM

Can't say I'm surprised by this

It's so bizarre to say the least & here I thought only Sony Japan was so narrow minded in imposing region block issues for their artistes' YouTube videos before they realised how dumb it's especially if you know how to bypass things using VPN

Next is to see if avex Taiwan will make Kuu's best album . They did not made re(CORD) but they made angeL / monsteR so :@

minkAYuko 26th October 2021 03:30 PM

damn that's pretty weird... I just checked it's super expensive on yesasia... but wait! there's another option i'll check

some time later...

YES! it's also on HMV here's the link for whoever needs it! they don't have the fc version tho...

https://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Kumi...-2020_12234609


edit: I decided to order it (along kyary's new album) it's probably going to be the last physical album I buy so yeah.

Darkifrit 26th October 2021 04:07 PM

^ right I paid 66€ for the standard edition…
At this price Girl better not skip my favorite singles in this edition lol

I think it’s the first CD I buy since Namie´s Finally in 2017.

KarenPang 26th October 2021 04:43 PM

@minkAYuko I think you should email HMV Japan to confirm with them if they're allowed to ship Kuu's BEST overseas

If CDJapan says no then it should be the same for HMV Japan , except if avex decides to show favouritism to HMV Japan which I highly doubt so

Although customer service wise , CDJapan's still the best . HMV Japan's not that good & quite aloof from my experience dealing with them

I also saw V6's final studio album & final best album listed on HMV Japan but with what CDJapan has said about them not able to ship their releases overseas , I will not take my chances to order via HMV Japan

minkAYuko 26th October 2021 05:21 PM

^interesting... I'm going to send it a message right now!. Yes cdjapan it's really great and superior yes but i haven't had any complaints with costumer service on HMV it's the handling of packages that's always been a problem to me since they roll up posters.

hopefully they answer me soon!

thinkingoutloud89 26th October 2021 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minkAYuko (Post 3345491)
^interesting... I'm going to send it a message right now!. Yes cdjapan it's really great and superior yes but i haven't had any complaints with costumer service on HMV it's the handling of packages that's always been a problem to me since they roll up posters.

hopefully they answer me soon!

My experience with hMV were much better as with CDJapan.

KarenPang 26th October 2021 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minkAYuko (Post 3345491)
^interesting... I'm going to send it a message right now!. Yes cdjapan it's really great and superior yes but i haven't had any complaints with costumer service on HMV it's the handling of packages that's always been a problem to me since they roll up posters.

hopefully they answer me soon!

It's better for you to ask 1st before you order , if not you'll be in a situation where you order BEST then HMV Japan says oh we can't ship BEST to you due to avex

At least if you ask now you have assurance upfront if HMV Japan can ship BEST to you

Also HMV Japan folds posters & stuff them inside the EMS envelope as it's the only shipping method they use for international orders , unlike CDJapan

Toniayu123 26th October 2021 10:32 PM

^I mean if they can’t ship it he’s entitled to get his money back all the way.
Also, why don’t you try creating a tenso account and order from whatever site you want and get it shipped to there? From tenso you can change the product’s value and avoid custom charges even. (Don’t know if this cant be done now, but it is how I used to purchase from mumo/TA shop some years ago)

Isicio 26th October 2021 11:32 PM

Taiwan version of the box will be great. Like A BALLADS 2.

minkAYuko 26th October 2021 11:56 PM

Still no answer from HMV

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 3345501)
It's better for you to ask 1st before you order , if not you'll be in a situation where you order BEST then HMV Japan says oh we can't ship BEST to you due to avex

At least if you ask now you have assurance upfront if HMV Japan can ship BEST to you

Also HMV Japan folds posters & stuff them inside the EMS envelope as it's the only shipping method they use for international orders , unlike CDJapan

Yeah I thought there would be some kind of warning before I placed my order but since it was available I venture to buy it (along the other cd) and yeah I ask them to cancel my whole order in case they have that rule for overseas buyers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toniayu123 (Post 3345502)
^I mean if they can’t ship it he’s entitled to get his money back all the way.
Also, why don’t you try creating a tenso account and order from whatever site you want and get it shipped to there? From tenso you can change the product’s value and avoid custom charges even. (Don’t know if this cant be done now, but it is how I used to purchase from mumo/TA shop some years ago)

yeah hopefully!

YEah tenso is good and all but as far as my research went, you have to do some paperwork before you can even place an order, they have to send you a postcard to confirm your address so that takes at least some weeks. so now I know I should have complete that part xD.

I think someone else mention that you can buy it from mu-mo with the "worldshopping" link that appears there haven't tried that one.

KarenPang 27th October 2021 10:08 AM

@Isicio It will be a nice surprise if avex Taiwan was able to make the fanclub / mu-mo version of BEST , like what they did with Ayu's A BALLADS 2 & MUSIC for LIFE ~return~ Blu-ray

@minkAYuko The other supposedly good middleman to use is Buyee (I've seen their name on Tower Records Japan's website) but I have no experience dealing with them so I do not know

The middleman that I used to use a long time ago & I still find them great is Japan Auction Agency

https://www.japan-auction-agency.com/

Tenso & CDJapan's middleman services both only offer EMS for shipping unlike JAA where they give you 6 different options

Toniayu123 27th October 2021 07:27 PM

It seems we’re getting new recordings of “hands” and “walk of my life” as well according to her insta stories. The fact that she considered re-recording walk of my life makes me feel old af Like, it has been almost 7 years already? Where did my time go?

jean-baptiste 27th October 2021 08:03 PM

Do we know if the re-recordings will replace the originals on the release? Or if they'll be tacked on at the end as sort of bonus tracks?

Gustavopc 27th October 2021 08:07 PM

^ No, we dont know it the new tracks will replace old ones, or even if they'll be in the regular version... Gosh, I wish they'd announce the proper contents already, but from the looks of it Kumi hasnt finished recordings yet and they probably don't want to have to change somehting previously announced... btw would love to see WOML making it to the best even tho it wasnt a single.

_XXKK_ 27th October 2021 11:02 PM

ugh announce the full content already

Darkifrit 28th October 2021 10:27 AM

Okay got bored so I did what I think will be the tracklist of the regular edition based on how often she performed songs, YouTube views and others assumptions.

/!\ Fanmade

Spoiler:

1. TAKE BACK* (new version)
2. Trust You Love* (new version)
3. real Emotion * (new version)
4. 1000の言葉
5. Crazy 4 U*
6. Cutie Honey* (new version)
7. Selfish
8. hands* (new version)
9. Hot Stuff
10. Butterfly* (new version)
11. Promise
12. you* (new version)
13. D.D.D (new version)
14. Shake It Up!
15. WIND*
16. Someday*

1. 恋のつぼみ* (new version)
2. 人魚姫*
3. With your smile*
4. 夢のうた*
5. 運命*
6. BUT*
7. 愛証
8. FREAKY*
9. 愛のうた* (new version)
10. LAST ANGEL (new version)
11. Moon Crying* (new version)
12. TABOO*
13. It’s all Love!*
14. Can We Go Back*
15. Lollipop*
16. 好きで、好きで、好きで。* (new version)
17. POP DIVA*

1. Poppin’ love cocktail *
2. V.I.P.
3. 愛を止めないで
4. Go to the top
5. 恋しくて
6. Is this TRAP?*
7. Dance in the Rain*
8. WALK OF MY LIFE* (new version)
9. LIT*
10. Eh Yo*
11. DO ME*
12. OMG*
13. again
14. puff
15. XXKK*



* : sure to be included
I also guessed the songs that would get new version.

It’s more than 50 songs…
I have added personal favorites like Selfish, Promise, Aishou, again that might end up not being included T^T)

KarenPang 28th October 2021 04:15 PM

BEST~2000-2020~ physical items' packaging

3 CDs + DVD

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCx0yPPV...jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCx0yPPV...jpg&name=small

Fanclub mu-mo 8 CDs + Blu-ray

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCx0yPRV...jpg&name=small

https://twitter.com/KODAKUMINET/stat...65190298284033

:love

Fanclub mu-mo 8 CDs + Blu-ray also includes a 36 paged photobook

abestfah 28th October 2021 05:29 PM

Only 3 cds for regular version? So this means tracklists on each are different?

KarenPang 28th October 2021 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by abestfah (Post 3345546)
Only 3 cds for regular version? So this means tracklists on each are different?

Finalised content for the entire BEST is not announced yet be it for the songs and/or video contents

The songs included in the 1st 3 CDs in the fanclub mu-mo version could be the same as the regular 3 CDs

thinkingoutloud89 28th October 2021 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abestfah (Post 3345546)
Only 3 cds for regular version? So this means tracklists on each are different?


As Karen said, but yes, it’s a difference of 3 to 8 CDs. I bet the regular is a collection of either hits or re-recordings and the Fanclub one will be a complete single collection (as all the songs included are already announced)

minkAYuko 28th October 2021 08:05 PM

I hope they don't do us wrong! but I have high hopes that they will do what's better for us... (hahaha like the goverment) They obviously have taken good care of the whole thing so the outcome might be good.

btw... still no answer from HMV they must be investigating haha

jean-baptiste 28th October 2021 10:10 PM

A release like this makes me reflect on my time being a fan of hers (since around 03/04) and makes me proud to see she's still active in the industry, doing what she loves, even if I haven't connected with much of her music after WOML.

_XXKK_ 28th October 2021 11:04 PM

I wish all the covers resembled themselves. I mean, if you get second session limited edition you get the face cover, third universe is ok, and best 2020 with that packaging cant compare, unless you buy the regular one.

Gustavopc 29th October 2021 01:45 AM

I wish she had kept again and its music video for this best lol Would fit so well... Maybe she got the idea from making the music video, but still hahaha I mean, we know it will be included, but I mean keeping the concept of remaking shots from other music videos for new tracks in the best.

Darkifrit 29th October 2021 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustavopc (Post 3345558)
I wish she had kept again and its music video for this best lol Would fit so well... Maybe she got the idea from making the music video, but still hahaha I mean, we know it will be included, but I mean keeping the concept of remaking shots from other music videos for new tracks in the best.

Then I would be really happy!
again is one of my favorite songs from her of the last decade.
True the PO concept is quite fitting and the views on YouTube were the most important from the past few years (662k views)

Isicio 31st October 2021 10:34 AM

I preordered the japanese regular version on chia chia records Taiwan. I wonder if they will give me a tracking number, I choose International parcel instead of EMS, and I don't know if they have the postcard bonus -.-

thinkingoutloud89 1st November 2021 10:44 PM

honestly: the wait is killing me

minkAYuko 2nd November 2021 04:58 AM

^same

KarenPang 4th November 2021 12:30 PM

BEST~2000-2020~ finalised tracklist for both the regular + fanclub versions

https://rhythmzone.net/koda/discogra...?c=&id=1018589

Gustavopc 4th November 2021 03:09 PM

Kinda disappointed at the tracklist, only five re-recordings is way less than I expected. Heck we even thought it was possible she had re-recorded it all lol And given she only did five of those, the picks are so odd. I mean, I sure am interested in all of them but I was expecting her to go for bigger hits, not... LIT lol

Bluray also is a bummer, the only thing that feels like something special are the pachinko music videos. I hope everything was well remastered, at least :/

thinkingoutloud89 4th November 2021 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustavopc (Post 3345711)
Kinda disappointed at the tracklist, only five re-recordings is way less than I expected. Heck we even thought it was possible she had re-recorded it all lol And given she only did five of those, the picks are so odd. I mean, I sure am interested in all of them but I was expecting her to go for bigger hits, not... LIT lol

Bluray also is a bummer, the only thing that feels like something special are the pachinko music videos. I hope everything was well remastered, at least :/

Kinda feeling the same. The picks aren‘t to odd tho. I expected DDD, but I also expected way more.

Darkifrit 4th November 2021 03:24 PM

I was not so far with my personal tracklist. I expected more rearranged version as well but songs selection is okay. A bit sad some songs were skipped (Promise, BUT especially).
She could have added 3/4 songs for each CD in the regular version.

Is there some copyright issue with Tohoshinki? LAST ANGEL was simply forgotten in the all time best. That’s weird.she could have added a solo version.


Also I wonder how they can put 28 PV on a simple DVD?

Gustavopc 4th November 2021 04:10 PM

That Aint Cool was also left out so I guess it's a problem with the artists' labels. A pity.

Diva_br 4th November 2021 05:12 PM

I was expecting more of her hits when she said she re recorded. The only song that made sense to me is Cutie Honey, but also wanted TAKE BACK, CRAZY 4 U, Butterfly, real Emotion, you, Someday (or WIND) and Ai no Uta too, you know, the first songs that came at you when think of Koda Kumi ; m ;

I feel a bit dissapointed.

thinkingoutloud89 4th November 2021 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkifrit (Post 3345714)
I was not so far with my personal tracklist. I expected more rearranged version as well but songs selection is okay. A bit sad some songs were skipped (Promise, BUT especially).
She could have added 3/4 songs for each CD in the regular version.

Is there some copyright issue with Tohoshinki? LAST ANGEL was simply forgotten in the all time best. That’s weird.she could have added a solo version.


Also I wonder how they can put 28 PV on a simple DVD?

data isn't as big anymore.


I expected songs with a live version to get a new mix (hands had the slowed down version at Limited live, DDD probably being the Japonesque version)
But as you guys, I expected that she would make a much bigger use of it + have all the a-sides on there.

Darkifrit 4th November 2021 06:41 PM

Listening to the regular version tracklist, I think it’s a good sum up of her 20 years, despite some missing songs.
Noticed Bon Voyage is the only album not represented in that version (with DNA that only included one single). Quite surprising considering how re(CORD) is present!
Not a fan of Go to the top but I thought they would include it as it was her last #1 Oricon single.

Edit : BUT is seriously missing. Quite surprised they skipped it. It’s one of her biggest live anthem and most seen PV.

thinkingoutloud89 4th November 2021 06:44 PM

tbqh I think the regular Version is quite pointless and should have been a continuation of third universe instead

Darkifrit 4th November 2021 06:51 PM

^ I see your point.
You are right. I believe people who will buy this probably have already 3 CD that include Cutie Honey, Ai no Uta and co haha

minkAYuko 4th November 2021 07:14 PM

Dunno what to think and still dunno if I’m stuck with the regular version on hmv (I’m here defending them and they do this wrong -_-)…

I know I said that I knew I would be let down but… if she had only switch the new versions for the Ogs i wouldn’t be mad! At least it would be hace been different and there’d have been more space for other hits or one cd alone.

And LiT????? I mean it’s not bad but at least I hope she fixed the rap part.

sitara 4th November 2021 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud89 (Post 3345721)
tbqh I think the regular Version is quite pointless and should have been a continuation of third universe instead

PREACH!!! :yes
they could have called it ~fourth dimension~ or whatever...

jean-baptiste 5th November 2021 04:24 AM

Wow very shocked BUT is missing from the regular version. What could be the reason? "LAST ANGEL" and "girls" being missing from the 8CD version is also a bit disappointing. And I like the re-recorded song choices (besides LIT), but would've also liked "you" and another song from Black Cherry.

Overall, I'm not too mad about it. Best albums are pretty much obsolete in the streaming age. I'm buying mostly to support and commemorate Kuu's 20th.

Gustavopc 5th November 2021 02:48 PM

^ BUT isnt a big hit among the general public, makes total sense to me to have other tracks there. I do feel like it's odd tho how much of reCORD they put in there. Wonder ift they were really well-received or if they're just trying to push her newer releases into the general audience. And yeah, you're right, at the end of the day it's very rare to have best albums with actually incredible content, I think namie was the one who always made some great compilations, having even recording PVs for old songs in Ballada. But when it comes to Kumi, it's not that much of a deal indeed.

thinkingoutloud89 5th November 2021 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jean-baptiste (Post 3345726)
Wow very shocked BUT is missing from the regular version. What could be the reason? "LAST ANGEL" and "girls" being missing from the 8CD version is also a bit disappointing. And I like the re-recorded song choices (besides LIT), but would've also liked "you" and another song from Black Cherry.

Overall, I'm not too mad about it. Best albums are pretty much obsolete in the streaming age. I'm buying mostly to support and commemorate Kuu's 20th.

I think that is why they should put more effort in it. Otherwise just do playlists on streaming services.

Are they remastered at least? The description does not mention it.

Darkifrit 5th November 2021 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustavopc (Post 3345743)
^ BUT isnt a big hit among the general public, makes total sense to me to have other tracks there. I do feel like it's odd tho how much of reCORD they put in there. Wonder ift they were really well-received or if they're just trying to push her newer releases into the general audience. And yeah, you're right, at the end of the day it's very rare to have best albums with actually incredible content, I think namie was the one who always made some great compilations, having even recording PVs for old songs in Ballada. But when it comes to Kumi, it's not that much of a deal indeed.

Still BUT is quite often performed live and is much more popular than love across the ocean, D.D.D. or LIT. I don’t even talk about the PV in YouTube that has quite good numbers for her standards (725K to date).
I agree with Jean Baptiste, this is the most shocking missing song on the regular edition.

Seeing the reCORD number of tracks convince me the initial project for that year was surely to release the best of. It’s also interesting to see Kumi include old songs with reworked melody from re(Live) Tours (Cutie Honey & DDD supposedly).

ILoveGeniuses 5th November 2021 05:51 PM

TBH, I wasn't expecting much from this release. However, like many of you I'm also surprised "BUT" isn't included. I did also think there would be more new re-recordings and I'm super happy to see "SO FEVER" and "NEVER GIVE IT UP" are getting an official release now. I'm actually hoping that she'll perform them live soon. I absolutely love both songs. Plus I'm also hoping that this release might mean that at some point avex will add the MVs officially to YouTube.

Also, I never knew so many people didn't like LIT. I was addicted to it from first listen. lol

minkAYuko 5th November 2021 07:33 PM

At least WALK OF MY LIFE -BEST~2000-2020~ ver. sounds GOOOOD, more orchestral and I LOVE IT.

It there was ever a place to release Take Back from the 10th anniversary tour this was it... u_u please ku, take back LIT

jean-baptiste 5th November 2021 08:21 PM

I love how dramatic it is lol. Very fitting for the album closer.

thinkingoutloud89 5th November 2021 08:33 PM

maybe we should have bombarded her with wishes for re-recordings?

also, can't we ask her staff on twitter about LAST ANGEL? Maybe they just forgot lol

minkAYuko 5th November 2021 09:49 PM

if ku were to sing for THE FIRST TAKE, what would be a good song to sing? She'd probably do you or ai no uta right?

thinkingoutloud89 5th November 2021 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minkAYuko (Post 3345755)
if ku were to sing for THE FIRST TAKE, what would be a good song to sing? She'd probably do you or ai no uta right?

I just thought „I hope she never sings Ai no Uta“ again. I think there is a point in careers where artist should abandon certain songs. It’s definitely Ai boi Uta that should be one of them.

As for the first take: it’s only for Sony artists. But both Miliyah and Mika Nakashima have chosen their „Ai no uta“. Why do I wanna hear Aitai or Yuki no Hana in it’s 4000 rendition.

It is much cooler, in my opinion, to do songs that surprise or need more love. Miliyah did that with her secret be song (Hontou Watashi…)


I‘d rather have Kumi sing Koshikute, Ai wo tomonaide or something more personal and current like RUN.

Corvina 5th November 2021 10:57 PM

It's a Sony project, but no, they also invite artists from other labels. They already had a bunch from avex e.g.
They just tend to do the more current popular artists from other labels, while being broader with their own artists.

And I actually think the regular edition of Kuu's best is pretty nice having 5 re-recorded songs and also having a 20 page booklet now.
While I am a bit sad they haven't put something more on the FC Blu-Ray, I expected the CD content like that and the BR has all the HD PVs and the Pachinko PVs, so I'm fine.

thinkingoutloud89 5th November 2021 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corvina (Post 3345757)
It's a Sony project, but no, they also invite artists from other labels. They already had a bunch from avex e.g.
They just tend to do the more current popular artists from other labels, while being broader with their own artists.

And I actually think the regular edition of Kuu's best is pretty nice having 5 re-recorded songs and also having a 20 page booklet now.
While I am a bit sad they haven't put something more on the FC Blu-Ray, I expected the CD content like that and the BR has all the HD PVs and the Pachinko PVs, so I'm fine.

Oh cool didn‘t notice. Maybe YouTube just shows me the Sony label artists. Still standing behind the fact it should not be Ai no Uta lol

Gustavopc 5th November 2021 11:17 PM

Ai no uta has already become her signature song, she'll never drop it lol Of course she can perform ton of other stuff during tours and such, but when it's for the general public, at this point in her career it'll probably be way more positive for her to perform Ai no uta than a recent single. It bothered me back in 2010 and such when she used to sing it on TV, but nowadays I am glad that song stick to the public and she has a way to connect with her audience through it.

KuuXAyu-fan 6th November 2021 05:18 AM

I hope she sings Koishikute somewhere. It's one of her last real hits.

I'm thinking FNS in December is going to be the main promotion they will rely on for the best. Hopefully we get some other TV lives.

KarenPang 6th November 2021 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KuuXAyu-fan (Post 3345762)
I'm thinking FNS in December is going to be the main promotion they will rely on for the best. Hopefully we get some other TV lives.

Best Artist 2021 is coming up real soon on 17th Nov & this year's the 20th anniversary since NTV started it

Maybe Kuu will perform ?

I'm quite sure the performers' list will be announced tonight after 1-Oku 3000-Mannin no SHOW Channel broadcast

thinkingoutloud89 6th November 2021 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustavopc (Post 3345759)
Ai no uta has already become her signature song, she'll never drop it lol Of course she can perform ton of other stuff during tours and such, but when it's for the general public, at this point in her career it'll probably be way more positive for her to perform Ai no uta than a recent single. It bothered me back in 2010 and such when she used to sing it on TV, but nowadays I am glad that song stick to the public and she has a way to connect with her audience through it.

I personally hate that concept. You are catering towards an audience that does not care for anything else you did. It’s not like Ai no Uta is such a good song to begin with. To me, it’s a thorn in an artist image to rely on something like that. It is, to me, sort of weak-minded and I really don’t think it’s a good way to do either. It only drives the nail in deeper as it cements one image as „the artist who sang that one song“ making you nothing more like a one hit wonder. Getting a song out every five years or so would be different, but year after year really only harms an image instead of nurturing it.

But we have different opinions on that and there is not much to do about it either.
Ayu has the same problem with SEASONS/evolution. I‘m glad Namie had the courage to abandon most of her back-catalogue at one point.

Only sticking to songs from 20+ years ago is like telling the audience that everything you did since then is not as good. Ai no Uta only was a hit because she was at her peak and it could have been any other song. Again, that does not mal a song outstanding good in my eyes.

Corvina 6th November 2021 02:33 PM

She performs Ai no Uta often, but she also does other songs on music shows. People generally know her name and more songs than just this one.
So let's not make it worse than it is

------------------------------------------

Made an update for her youtube views, cause I have some time at hand.
Extended the list to every PV having 400k.

Streaming update

youtube

01. Megumi no Hito - 3,571,204
02. Ai no Uta - 2,567,914
03. Cutie Honey - 1,568,568

04. Crazy 4 U - 1,317,511
05. you - 1,269,373
06. Butterfly - 1,116,791
07. Someday - 1,045,404
08. Moon Crying - 1,036,577
09. Koishikute - 947,037
10. It's all Love! - 858,981

11. BE MY BABY - 821,634
12. Suki de, Suki de, Suki de. - 819,143
13. BUT - 725,726
14. Love Me Back - 680,081
15. WON'T BE LONG - 670,294
16. Anata dake ga - 633,385
17. Koi no Tsubomi - 625,431
18. TABOO - 616,944
19. Pink Spider - 571,406
20. Unmei - 553,952

21. Aisho - 547,810
22. D.D.D. feat. SOULHEAD - 514,882
23. hands - 501,878
24. Cherry Girl - 498,551
25. Get Up & Move!! - 491,023

26. No Regret - 457,187
27. show girl- 451,369
28. Hot Stuff - 449,810
29. Ai wo tomenaide - 438,587
30. puff - 426,448
31. XXKK - 423,068
32. Shake It Up - 422,019
33. Selfish - 413,658
34. WIND - 399,888

Last update 31st August 2021
Spoiler:

01. Megumi no Hito - 3,274,507
02. Ai no Uta - 2,246,270
03. Cutie Honey - 1,390,556

04. Crazy 4 U - 1,228,414
05. you - 1,195,430
06. Butterfly - 1,005,638
07. Someday - 966,726
08. Moon Crying - 908,436
09. Koishikute - 879,226
10. It's all Love! - 807,138

11. BE MY BABY - 748,192
12. Suki de, Suki de, Suki de. - 701,188
13. BUT - 680,258
14. Love Me Back - 656,419
15. Pink Spider - 559,925
16. Koi no Tsubomi - 553,345
17. WON'T BE LONG - 539,922
18. Anata dake ga - 527,990
19. TABOO - 525,946
20. Unmei - 504,565

21. Aisho - 503,541
22. D.D.D. feat. SOULHEAD - 490,919
23. Cherry Girl - 467,652
24. hands - 463,866
25. Get Up & Move!! - 455,110

thinkingoutloud89 6th November 2021 02:43 PM

Yeah maybe, but I feel like she isn‘t really pushing it anymore. I feel like she was once known for innovation. Even the whole „these are my two sides“ don‘t really do it for me atm. I don’t really mean her signature-sound with that. It’s okay to find your groove, but even in that she used to be more adventures. There is nothing I really dislike, but nothing that gives me the chills either. I hope something great comes after the BEST (although the last three songs were kinda meh too)

I just yesterday gave the two Mini-albums another spin. I still like them but they are mostly forgettable. She recorded songs at home Right? Am I the only one who can hear that (especially on angel)?

Corvina 6th November 2021 02:55 PM

I don't hear anything bad, but I'm also not very sensitive to such things.
I also don't know if it is fair to judge her like that right now.
AngeL and MonsteR only saw the light of day because of the pandemic, the release and most of the music on it wasn't planned (only XXKK and RUN, and maybe Killer monsteR cause she started working on it Spring 2020). The My Name Is... FC release as well and the 20th anni tour was also restricted, so that it could even happen at all.
She just took another 2-side concept because of that.

It's always funny and interesting to me to see comments about her - some say she hasn't changed and is boring, some say she has changed so much with her music it's bad and so on.
Your tastes might not align anymore, I suppose.

thinkingoutloud89 6th November 2021 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corvina (Post 3345778)
I don't hear anything bad, but I'm also not very sensitive to such things.
I also don't know if it is fair to judge her like that right now.
AngeL and MonsteR only saw the light of day because of the pandemic, the release and most of the music on it wasn't planned (only XXKK and RUN, and maybe Killer monsteR cause she started working on it Spring 2020). The My Name Is... FC release as well and the 20th anni tour was also restricted, so that it could even happen at all.
She just took another 2-side concept because of that.

It's always funny and interesting to me to see comments about her - some say she hasn't changed and is boring, some say she has changed so much with her music it's bad and so on.
Your tastes might not align anymore, I suppose.


Oh it’s not „bad“ that’s not what I wanted to say. If something is bad I wouldn’t listen to it.
As for the sound on these songs: they sound a bit muffled (like you can hear she is in a small room weirdly. Could be just me tho.

Corvina 6th November 2021 03:32 PM

Oh, this was also a general observation I made.
People not enjoying her anymore usual state things from opposite directions, which is probably inevitable with someone being as active and as long active like her.

Just an example maybe for last year.
puff was written by an Italian composer team and some fans asked them about it on social media.
I've read the writer indeed told them they send the song to Kuu/her team and she liked it that much, she recorded and released the song very fast last year.
From what Kuu said she found it fitting to the situation, to motivate and cheer up.

Edit:

This is nice.
They're showing a special Nissin x Koda Kumi spot tomorrow till an hour before the show starts at 109 Forum Vision in Shibuya.
Hope somebody makes a video of it.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/BWpoQz.jpg

thinkingoutloud89 6th November 2021 04:43 PM

^well I don't think being a fan means you have to arrange yourself with everything. A bad song is a bad song for me, regardless of who makes it. The other-way around I can very well like a song by an artist I don't really like.

I don't know what it is and I find songs here and there I like in the latest releases, but I also observed that the number of song I only listen to when I play the whole album significantly rose.

As for Kumi specifically, I enjoy her persona, her voice and her live shows and I have a few hundred songs i really love, so there isn't really a need for me to get unlimited new top-notch songs. It's just cherry on top.

mi|kshake 6th November 2021 07:06 PM

I'm going to pre-order the 3 disc version. I wish there was less of the more recent albums and more from Bon Voyage included as well as some of her covers. Disc 1 looks like such a nostalgia trip though!

Zeke. 6th November 2021 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud89 (Post 3345785)
^well I don't think being a fan means you have to arrange yourself with everything. A bad song is a bad song for me, regardless of who makes it. The other-way around I can very well like a song by an artist I don't really like.

I don't know what it is and I find songs here and there I like in the latest releases, but I also observed that the number of song I only listen to when I play the whole album significantly rose.

As for Kumi specifically, I enjoy her persona, her voice and her live shows and I have a few hundred songs i really love, so there isn't really a need for me to get unlimited new top-notch songs. It's just cherry on top.

This. It’s insane how foreign a concept this seems to some.

Corvina 6th November 2021 10:11 PM

I agree, tho I don't really know why were talking about it.
It wasn't part of the topic. :confused

jean-baptiste 7th November 2021 07:05 AM

I feel like I must be the only fan who really likes Ai no Uta. Do I wish Kuu would switch it up for live performances? Sure, but I think that's how things are mostly done in Japan, right? Ayu always does SEASONS or Boys & Girls or evolution.

I don't think it's Kuu being "weak-minded", I think it's the industry standard to sing your staple song as a seasoned artist. Describing her as "weak-minded" is not only a bit harsh, but also seems incorrect to me, because Kumi's music for the last 6-ish years has been a complete departure from what she's done in the past. She's made bold career moves, especially in terms of the sound she's going for. Nothing weak-minded about it, and I'm saying that as a fan who has found it hard to relate to the newer stuff. (We're all entitled to our opinions though.)

Darkifrit 7th November 2021 10:51 AM

I was concerned about Ai no Uta over popularity for years but I’m okay with it now.
On a bright side, Kumi is lucky enough to have one personal song liked by the general public through the years. Most artists struggle to have that in their career.

We can consider Butterfly, Cutie Honey and Megumi no Hito in that category as well.

bizkid1990 7th November 2021 11:54 AM

Just watched the online live. How I wish she'd lower the key for some songs :( nevertheless, it was an enjoyable 45-minute live :)

Corvina 7th November 2021 11:56 AM

Full setlist for the Nissin online live:

01. XXKK
02. IS THIS TRAP?
03. DO ME
- MC -
04. Driving
05. Chase - real Emotion - anytime
06. Moon Crying
07. Ai no Uta
08. BRIDGET SONG
09. Megumi no Hito
10. OMG
11. Lady Go!

Aftertalk is starting soon.

EDIT:

It wasn't shared here yet, but here's the radio rip from the new WALK OF MY LIFE version:

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV18r...om=333.337.0.0

Great strings version with hint of e-guitar!
Love that last note of Kuu. :heart

minkAYuko 7th November 2021 07:20 PM

^ ma’am could you at least sing the songs included in your ‘best’ album about to be released so we don’t have to cry over the songs not included? Thanks.

WOML is art in full!! So good !!!

kaled kalil 7th November 2021 07:27 PM

Why is it so hard to understand why singers have signature song? They often perform their main hits on TV or special events because that's the song the general public knows and they want people to still remember them. You will always see Mariah Carey singing Vision of Love and We Belong Together, Celine singing My Heart Will Go On, Britney singing Toxic, just like Kumi has Ai no Uta and Butterfly. TV appearances where they often perform their signature songs are not made for the fans only, the fans knows their other tracks and will be interested in, but for the general public it's usually the songs that they know that they care only.

And it's not like Kumi isn't performing other songs on her tours? She didn't perform Ai no Uta for the reLIVE Tour, AND Tour neither, and guess what, even for her 20th Anniversary Tour she didn't perform Ai no Uta for the main video release, so she does sing other stuff where it matters to the fans.

As for angel+monster quality, the mastering of the tracks is not great honestly, even a lossless rip from the CD sounds a bit low quality for some tracks listening with a good headphone. No One's chorus is a mess with all the different layers mashed together without proper care, which is a bummer because the song is not bad, but some tracks like RUN still sounds nice (I don't know if it was recorded before COVID, but knowing she had this song for years it might have been recorded before she had to record at home).

The Nissin mini concert was fun, but I wish she performed a bit of her newest tracks too. To be free as used for the teaser, you could at least performed this one....

gustavismo 7th November 2021 08:36 PM

I'm really surprised we're only getting 5 re-recorded songs, since this project has been in the making for quite a long time now and she basically never leaves the studio! I'm also surprised she didn't pick TAKE BACK, as much as I love the song, an update would do wonders to it. (I was also expecting another version of walk, I feel like the ~to the future~ one has been overplayed way too much, even though I can't even remember if she keeps singing with this arrangement at her tours ^^')

KarenPang 9th November 2021 07:39 AM

Nissin Rao Presents KODA KUMI SPECIAL ONLINE LIVE 2021 digest

https://twitter.com/KODAKUMINET/stat...49606772285440

Corvina 9th November 2021 06:47 PM

4 MORE radio rip:

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1LL411u7tC

PV will be up 11/15 when the song will be released digitally.
Kuu herself showed some previews in her Insta story today.

100のコドク達へ-Short Ver.- radio rip:

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1s44y1e7k6

Like usual big thanks to Kyu-Leon for sharing.

Today also a new magazine interview with previews for the WALK style book got released.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/oMWJ8D.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/9ila8y.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/MqAcRL.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/tXiacN.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/ffhTOg.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/dgHarc.jpg

Source:
https://www.jprime.jp/articles/photo/22427

Corvina 9th November 2021 06:54 PM

And just because the lyrics are absolutely amazing and choko was so kind here's a translation for the short version of 100のコドク達へ :

Quote:


I want to know you
I want to know your pain
I want to understand the pain that lights up your eyes

I want to know you
I want to know your sadness
I want to understand the sadness that lives deep within you

Why am I unloved?
Why was I brought into this world?
Why am I alone?
What am I doing here?
Why can’t I be someone else?
Someone answer me, please

A hundred lonely souls look up at the sky today
A hundred lonely souls are wandering around the city
You’re one of them, and I am too
We want to understand, and to be understood,
but we just keep passing each other by

Made by our chocopockymaster


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