hoo boy , Sunrise/Sunset is at #16 today :dead2 :dead2 :dead2

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/js/d/more/2/

very strange =O

no it's not

there're 9 new entries today in the top 10 so ....

Well last week it dropped from #2 to #8 and it ended up being #4 weekly.
We will know the sales later in the day. XD

#4 for the 2nd week! Small drop! Can't wait for the figures.

There are already figures of the 2nd week. Check the main (1st) post if the thread. ^^

too much drop until 16...

Hmm I guess either the single will slowly climb up for the rest of the week, which is what have been happening with like all her releases since Days/GREEN... or this week will be its last... : /

yikes!
Huge drop! X_X"

New releases ~~'

Small drop in sales though. ^^

Third Week 2nd Day
Position: #16
Sales: 1,528
Total Sales: 93,943

^

well, that's not so bad...
let's see in the end of the week how high it reaches...

This always happens.. didn't this happen to Rule and NEXT LEVEL? Haha.

^ Yeap... new releases^^

well, Sunrise at least DOES sell...

Ho okai 10new releases n_n AKB48 first I will never understand

at least most of those new releases will drop out of sight quickly. ^-^

Wow pretty decent sales. Looks like t2m or less. haha

Sixteen is kinda disappointing, though nothing surprising. After all, new releases... Still very steady sales, though. I think it'll chart a while longer... Well, I hope, at least. ^_^' I'm gonna wait 'til we see how the single does towards the middle of the week before I judge.

at least the sales is still maintaining at 1500copies a day.. ^^
so glad that it will still manage to break the 100,000copies after all

how much it sold 1st day of 3rd week??
hopefully it can sell at least 1,5K per day so it's gonna hit 10K this week

^1.5k

The position doesn't even matter anymore as it will keep selling the same even if it was in top3. After all this time I am really surprised people are shocked with her chart positions in 2nd and 3rd week.

^ ohh.. how about yesterday??
is that what Tal's post sales is yesterday chart?

Yep

3rd Week

1st Day
Position: #3
Sales: 1,702
Total Sales: 92,415

2nd Day
Position: #16
Sales: 1,528
Total Sales: 93,943

It's all on the first main post of the thread, you can check it every time. ^^

As riozz said, I am hoping it will keep selling around 1.5k each day and break 100k this week ^^ there are only 6k to go and five more days - the chances are pretty good.

3rd Day
Position: #16

^thanks for the update

good that didn't drop even more xD

Thanks for the update
And it stayed on the same spot this day. :)

I hope it climbs :D

Still the same haha.

hope that this week, s/s can pass 100k

Hm.. this single will probably end up with 115-120k?

Fingers crossed, woo~

^ I think that's a possibility.

As long as it crosses 100k , I'm satisfied.

WTH???????????? #16?

As long as it crosses 100k , I'm satisfied too...

you really think it can get that much? that'd be awesome! :love

Third Week 3rd Day
Position: #16
Sales: 1,330
Total Sales: 95,273

^ Ack what was the sales for yesterday? I have forgotten. :dead2

Hmm 100k is achievable within this week if sales are steady~

3rd Week

1st Day
Position: #3
Sales: 1,702
Total Sales: 92,415

2nd Day
Position: #16
Sales: 1,528
Total Sales: 93,943

3rd Day
Position: #16
Sales: 1,330
Total Sales: 95,273

You can also always look at the Main post of the thread. It's updated with everything every day and nothing is being deleted. ^-^

^ I'll remember that next time! Thanks! And sales have been steady!

The sales shouldn't fall below 1100 - 1200 copies tomorrow and hopefully we won't see a dip under 1000 on Friday.

^ :P I suppose Friday MIGHT fall below 1000... hopefully there'll be a weekend boost too~

Sales are VERY steady. :)

Judging by how things have been going, it's kinda going to go that way unless for some reason she starts selling 600-700 per day..

I'm so glad that it looks like it's going to reach 100K. I didn't think it would from the initial sales. I know many people here don't agree, but sales are very important for me O__O

^ Sales are important to me, too, but I'm very willing to accept that, aside from Ayu no longer being at her peak, sales are no longer what they used to be because of the economy. In the US, people still spend a lot of their money on things that they maybe shouldn't, from big things such as new cars to smaller things like CDs. In most of the rest of the world, especially Japan, the necessities come first. Plus, you have to take into consideration that only huge fans or big music lovers buy physical copies. But even digital isn't what it could be. Like a few people have mentioned, as far as music goes, 500,000 is the new million. :(

I think Ayu is really doing amazing, considering she's been here for over ten years now alone. And her chart positions prove that only 100,000 for a single isn't bad at all.
When you think about it, Ayumi has been here longer than all the well known J-Pop stars (at least the solo female artists). Kumi has been around for a while now, but she only got popular a few years ago. Hikaru is still big, of course, though she has never been one to put out a lot of stuff, so of course it's hard to get tired of her. As we speak, she may as well be on hiatus. (Seriously, what happened to Hikaru lately?? ._.) Namie Amuro is in a similar position. Of her long career now, she's only been active for about half of it. Ayumi Hamasaki is the only one who can truly say that she's been here for over a decade. And she's still charting and selling above average, despite it all.

wow the 3rd week's sales are really steady...it has a good chance at breaking 100k by the end of this week...if not definitely the 4th week.

yep, i definitely agree with you :yes
that's good the sales are steady. i'm thinking it will wind up selling 110-120k too.

is it already passed Rule/Sparkle 1st week sales??jhhahahhaa

^Tomorrow it finally will. XD

I can´t say it louder & clearer...

What do you say guys?
A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~ charted last week. xD

lol that's insanee xD I guess is gonna sell as good as BEST FICTION in the long run ^^ (if it haven't already)

Third Week 4th Day
Position: #15

Went up. ^^

Go Ayu T__T

That's telling AC to sell more than half of its current sales. LOL. Which imo is quite impossible.

A bit less than a half but it's still impossible. XD

^ yeah totally, it would take years if it keeps selling 500 copies/week.

Well, I didn't doubt that S/S would sell under 100k since it debuted. Judging from T2M's sales pattern, it's just not likely. :P Ayu won't fall off the chart that fast. There are 200 positions to drop. Of course it'd be fine.

And honestly! The position shouldn't matter anymore since Ayu got her weekly no. 1. She'll very likely be in the monthly top 10 (actually I'm quite sure she will be) and that's enough, isn't it? She won't stay in the top 10 for 3 weeks, that's quite the feat and you probably have to be... a boy band, or you know, just a band with a male vocalist.

Btw, what are S/S's sales now compared to T2M's sales during its 3rd week?

Namie Amuro has been around for more than 14 years, please don't ever say that " Of her long career now, she's only been active for about half of it. Ayumi Hamasaki is the only one who can truly say that she's been here for over a decade"
Do u listen to Namie in 2003 until now? if u do I belive that u wouldnt say such a thing, because she has tried hard enough to get into new music direction, everyfans of her knows that. She had never given up.=/ I was become her fan at the time ppl think Namie Amuro was over.
I do agree that she didn't sale well some years ago, but it didn't mean that Jpanese ppl don't listen to her at that time and she's not around in ppl's mind who admire and respect her. Because the fact that halp of the songs in BEST FICTION are all from her 2003 to 2005.
Please stop bringing her name into your speech just to prove that Ayu is the best of the J-pop world or anything, when u r not a fan of her, don't say like u know about her =/
Put your self in my place, u'll understand why i reply your post, i didn't mean anything so get it easy okay? :)
When ayu get down in her sale, ppl here just find their own self-believing reason to prove that she's not been over yet, yeah, u have the right to do so, because u r her fan.
Then someday when her peak returns, u feel happy for her and u know that at her down time, she had tried her best.
Imagine if some ppl say that Ayu wasn't around from 2009 to 2..., what would u think?

So? Koda had all of her songs from her debut on BEST~first things and it sold great, but that doesn't mean people cared for her music much prior to Secret era. It's a fact Namie was far from being ultra popular until Queen of Hip Hop was released (and after her 90's peak) and sure there were people who admired her and loved her even at that time, those were mostly her hard core fans though, it's far from what she has atm, BEST FICTION didn't sell because her 2003-2005 songs were purely amazing, but because of the success of her previous 2 studio albums and 60s70s80s single and of course the fact that she managed to get popular again.

I'm sorry, but her 2003-2005 singles/songs were amazing, imo they are 100x times better than WILD/Dr. =/ Not to mention that her previous alb were Queen Of Hip Pop(2005) and PLAY(2007) and 3 SONGs from 60s70s80s can't make more than 1millions ppl buy BEST FICTION, they r not crazy =/
I bought BEST FICTION because I didn't buy Queen of Hip Pop(2005) and Style(2003). Have u listened to them all? =/
Anyway what are u trying to say to me? I didn't reply that post to u =/ please stop this never end discussion.

I was just saying that you can't possibly know why the people were buying the album, once and for all - amazing sales don't mean the music is actually amazing - as it's the matter of taste, some of the songs on BF are far from amazing IMO. Don't generalize things based on your personal opinions. The fact is Namie Amuro did not release stuff as often as Ayu did.

=/ Okay, so when Ayu get some high sales, her previous alb for example, I have my right to thing that "amazing sales don't mean the music is actually amazing" right? I don't think so.
And u think because "the fact is Namie Amuro did not release stuff as often as Ayu did" so BEST FICTION sales well? =/ That's how Ayu fans think too? Just to prove that "Oh god that ***** Namie just got her luck and Ayu is the only one who deserver some good thing?"
U don't like Namie, it's ok, but BEST FICTION were deserved its sales, stop putting your hate into it.

Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say BF sold because she didn't release often as that would be dumb. The fact is, she was less present on the market than Ayu.

I like Namie Amuro, among many I have nothing against her, her music lacks depth in my opinion, but she is in my top 10 artists on last.fm nevertheless. I don't believe in a word "deserve" when it comes to sales, it's as individual as taste in music. Yes you are free to say what you think about Ayu's music it's your opinion/taste and no one can take it from you.

sorry but was it me who started the best fiction vs AC thing?? I'm sorry if I started it all xD


I hope people just back off a little.

I belive in a word "deserve" when it comes to everything.
With me, I still think that S/S deserve this low sale comparing to the last amazing Rule/Sparkle. Imo It sales bad because it's not good enough. Not because of any reason like the economic problem/ Ayu release so often or because of this is the era of Digital sale.

@ Etsuya: It's totally not your fault dear.^^

Well I am sorry but if you really think like that than you are pretty naive. Think as you wish, the world isn't really a place in which we all get what we deserve - that would be too ideal.

I don't get how Best Fiction got dragged into this. It's not so much about who "deserves" the sales than it is about who happens to be better hyped right now. Ayu's been there, done that, and isn't the main topic of discussion for youngsters nowadays, really. She still is very popular, but she hasn't had a real "hit" recently. Namie, on the other hand, had 60s70s80s which was very popular and was enough to make people who were previously uninterested interested again.

Although njanjayrp is right that Namie was suddenly very popular again more recently, I do think that RockyRaven has a good point about how people bought Best Fiction because they didn't buy her previous two albums (because that was before 60s70s80s and people probably weren't as aware.) It makes sense that people would buy Best Fiction to make up for that.

Not everyone that works hard and "deserves" good sales gets it. With great packaging and marketing as well as a kickass tie-in, a lot of songs can be hits.

Yeap it moved up like expected... it will for the rest of the week and then a big drop again~ hahaha

And wow what's BEST FICTION's sales? The scans are gorgeous (I saw them hehe) and I'm quite tempted to take a listen... Well hopefully A COMPLETE would be nearer to BEST FICTION's sales cos that would be a good thing too. :)

:yes you are very right, and I agree with everything you said.
I could say that I think one of my favourite artists works very hard and makes amazing music, however they may not sell well. I think they 'deserve' it, but unfortunately they just may not be as popular as the artists that sell well.
Like for instance I really love the S/S single and wished more people would feel the same way, however I can't change it :P

I'm happy with the sales though!!

Today sales & total 3rd week:

14 13 ↓ 浜崎あゆみ
1238 5804 1.01 5862

Third Week 4th Day
Position: #15
Sales: 1,238
Total Sales: 96,511

It will sell over 100,000 in the middle of the fourth week as it seems.

AHS, only forum in the world where two people fight about sales <3

;) I corrected you. :)

S/S is doing great. I'll be happy when it reaches 100k. :D

Ha, I like this. I don't understand why people don't just delete their accounts and leave.

Neither do I tbh. Probably cuz there's not really a j-music forum that can hold a candle to AHS. :P

I'm an I am... initiate!!! :D

A COMPLETE sold the amount it did because a lot of people bought it... BEST FICTION sold more because more people bought it lol. Let's just leave it at that.

96,5kby now!! That's great!!

You guys should stop the BF-AC argument cuz this is after all a thread for S/S 's sales LOL.

Oh relax guys!
we should be concentrating on the future xD

Pretty alright overall sales, I suppose..

Aaaaaa, I didn't mean to start anything, lol!! >_> And I didn't bring in Amuro's name just to try and prove Ayu is best. I was just saying.... Namie Amuro has gone on a few hiatuses now, and there have been many years she wasn't as popular. (Not that Ayu hasn't gone down in the years, obviously. D:) Didn't mean to offend you about all that. I was just trying to perk everybody up about her sales and such! Because even if you don't like her as much, or if you think her music is starting to lack, or no matter how much her sales or popularity drops, Ayumi has never gone on hiatus, and she has never dropped out completely of the music scene in any way......

But yeah....... Didn't mean to bring that up. Just wanted to clarify that I wasn't trying to throw Namie Amuro into the gutter (or Hikki or Kumi, or any other singer, for that matter) to make Ayumi look better. I was merely trying to say that we should be very pleased with Ayumi and her sales/charting, considering the situation. ^_^' Forgive me, ya? D:


Anywho... Good to see S/S is still very steady. :) 100,000 in no time!! :D

Sunrise-Sunset is 11th today by Oricon!!!

It went up! :D

Yay, great!
Perhaps a really small decrease in sales while others huge dropped. ^^

she's climbing ! But sales continue to go down O_o

Yeah hopefully it manages to climb up to Top 10 on the last couple of days of the week before it drops to the 20s... ^^

Thanks for sharing... Her single is doing pretty well.

Exciting! :)

closer to top 10 now

Yesterday's

Third Week 5th Day
Position: #11
Sales: 1,090
Total Sales: 97,601

wouldn't be long before Sunrise/Sunset cross 100K now :heart

hopefully Sunday will help ^^

Third Week 6th Day
Position: #11

2,399 in 2 days not so hard imo....

Hopefully the sales will jump back to 1200 copies/day ^_^

Sales are still 1000+ a day, it's climbing up to Top 10. Yay~!

Third Week 6th Day
Position: #11
Sales: 1,198
Total Sales: 98,799

So. CLOSE.