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NintendoHTF1242 3rd June 2010 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2376618)
I really enjoy this pv, more than the song itself.

Same here! I can't stand the song, but the PV is so fun xD

Ranma Matsuri 4th June 2010 04:04 AM

Pretty much agree with every single thing you said. The reactions to this PV are ridiculous, it's like did these people just block out the Sparkle, 1 Love, Rule, and Startin videos (all I'd say were a lot more sexual)? Why is this such a "shock" to them? I don't like to think the worst of people but I can't think of any other reason then the fact it was a gay club. There can't be any other reason. Ayu in tight sexy outfits? Done on regular basis. Bondage outfits? Been there, done that. In a club? Over with. So what else could it be? It really pisses me off because I suspect-- no, I KNOW if this PV wasn't taken place in a Gay club no one would be making a big deal out of it.

Just like with GREEN, how people made a big deal out of her dancing with the woman... it's like introducing any homosexual aspect in her PV is just good as her writhing in a vat of oil completely naked (I would LOVE to see this by the way lol). That dance scene has to be one of the most beautiful things I ever seen and it killed me how others were cheapening it with "oh she's gay now? eww". :irked

If there is any problems with the LD PV it should be with how it was directed. It was all over the place and confusing. Definitely the weaker of the album track PV's but those delicious scenes with the lollipop and her "riding" the big guy make it worthwhile. :D

Picaflor 7/4 4th June 2010 04:50 AM

not to bring up any taboo subjects or anything around this forum, but it was the "not even 2 second bathroom scene" that shook a lot of people up too. they found it vulgar, and disgusting, and i guess irresponsible.

mellody 4th June 2010 04:54 AM

I enjoy watching the PV as well, and actually this is my favorite song from RnRC, better than Microphone or Sexy little things like people said. :yes

Most of the scenes are having fun, yet are unpredictable.
Also, I 'm still questioning some scenes, like the locker scene, with so many green keys, I think it's pointing to something that related to green, maybe green card or something, since the lollipop is green as well, what is she trying to find there?

Someone ever said that GREEN PV related to [strike]homosexual[/strike], I didn't agree, but if it's true, maybe the green things related to GREEN PV as well? (The keys, The lollipop) since the PV were made in gay PV.

The opening scene outside the club is quite useless I think, showing Ayu in the crowds of people but almost in a minutes, 30 seconds is enough I think.
...and suddenly they enter the club from the backdoor?
Also Shu-ya knows the people inside? No comment.

Another things to notice, her dancers using a police hat, I think they did it on purpose but I don't know. Also, not only Ayu that put the 8-bit star earring in lollipop scene, but another women with colorful costumes using it as well, are they the same? And lastly, her makeups, at the end of the PV when she come out, I think the glitter in her face were too much, especially around Ayu eyes, maybe they did it on purpose, because it seems like a tears.

The bathroom scenes that less from 3 seconds is... (fill it yourself)
I don't know but it must be something that related to erotic things, Kazuyoshi Shimomura also talking about erotic things, like Ayu should be acting more 'erotic' or something like that, well, compared to other Shimoko PV, this is the most shocking video ever.

That's what I think, sorry for bringing so many things. :yes

mobius 4th June 2010 05:07 AM

I only seen this PV a couple times, and I didn't have any issues at all. For me, its just another typical Ayu's PV and it really doesn't suprise me at all.

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2377473)
I like the PV because Ayu looks so DAMN HOT in it! That's why. Lol.

I agreed with you on that. lol.

panda♥ 4th June 2010 05:43 AM

I don't care about the homosexual/drag aspect of the PV, I dislike the PV because it's badly made. I love the song, but the PV is just horribly directed/produced.

ImpactBreaker 4th June 2010 05:46 AM

I still don't understand the controversy people are creating over the bathrrom part....it's like a few seconds..and it just shows the bathroom with some guys using the urinals as they should be using it, but there's nothing more than that. The scene is quite dark as well. I don't see how that is 'oh so' "erotic" either. I mean, when I go to a club my rountine is often a little bit like this: I get in the line outside, then get inside it, buy the ticket, get into the dance floor part, dance, go to the bar and get something to drink, when I get tired I go to other places of the club where music is less louder so I can chat, and almost always I have to pay a visit to the bathroom, because well, alcohol inhibits the antidiuretic hormone of being released in the bloodstream so yeah!!! :P The PV just mainly shows the routine of a going clubbing, regardless of it being gay or not, I believe most people who go to clubs do a little bit of that routine: getting in line in the entrance-> getting inside -> going to the dance floor and having fun-> going to the bar to drink something-> dancing more-> get somewhere calmer to chat or rest for a bit and between those, paying a visit to the bathrooms because you need to do a "number 1".
There's nothing erotic about that :P:P

The most sexual related part of the PV imo is mostly the fact that the majority of the guys are shirtless and wearing bondage costumes...now I could understand if people were to get annoyed by that. It is the part that would make me embarrassed if I ever were to watch this PV in front of other people.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 4th June 2010 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NintendoHTF1242 (Post 2377529)
Same here! I can't stand the song, but the PV is so fun xD

but i do like the song xD

C+R+E+AYUMI 4th June 2010 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4 (Post 2376543)
You know what? I'll do just that.

For me, this video is amazing. Instead of focusing on a sexy ayu like rule or sparkle, it pays more attention it seems to the people around her.

I like your consideration and agree totally.
i definetely appreciate both song and PV where Ayu isn't the typical Club Queen again.

KPL 4th June 2010 11:12 AM

Anyone who knows the site eneabba.net/ayu?

Pieces_of_SEVEN 4th June 2010 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mellody (Post 2378612)
I enjoy watching the PV as well, and actually this is my favorite song from RnRC, better than Microphone or Sexy little things like people said. :yes

Most of the scenes are having fun, yet are unpredictable.
Also, I 'm still questioning some scenes, like the locker scene, with so many green keys, I think it's pointing to something that related to green, maybe green card or something, since the lollipop is green as well, what is she trying to find there?

Someone ever said that GREEN PV related to [strike]homosexual[/strike], I didn't agree, but if it's true, maybe the green things related to GREEN PV as well? (The keys, The lollipop) since the PV were made in gay PV.

The opening scene outside the club is quite useless I think, showing Ayu in the crowds of people but almost in a minutes, 30 seconds is enough I think.
...and suddenly they enter the club from the backdoor?
Also Shu-ya knows the people inside? No comment.

Another things to notice, her dancers using a police hat, I think they did it on purpose but I don't know. Also, not only Ayu that put the 8-bit star earring in lollipop scene, but another women with colorful costumes using it as well, are they the same? And lastly, her makeups, at the end of the PV when she come out, I think the glitter in her face were too much, especially around Ayu eyes, maybe they did it on purpose, because it seems like a tears.

The bathroom scenes that less from 3 seconds is... (fill it yourself)
I don't know but it must be something that related to erotic things, Kazuyoshi Shimomura also talking about erotic things, like Ayu should be acting more 'erotic' or something like that, well, compared to other Shimoko PV, this is the most shocking video ever.

That's what I think, sorry for bringing so many things. :yes

IMO people who try to analyze every little thing that ayu does or has in her PVs is ridiculous. You think because the locker key and the lollipop are the same color that it means something? Please get a grip on reality.

Shuya doesn't know the people inside, he was obviously flirting with them.

The bathroom scenes don't mean anything. They were just showing the club and a different room in it. Sometimes clubs have interesting bathrooms, she was just exploiting the fact that it was a club.

ImpactBreaker 4th June 2010 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2379369)
The bathroom scenes don't mean anything. They were just showing the club and a different room in it. Sometimes clubs have interesting bathrooms, she was just exploiting the fact that it was a club.

:yes

njanjayrp 4th June 2010 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2379369)
IMO people who try to analyze every little thing that ayu does or has in her PVs is ridiculous. You think because the locker key and the lollipop are the same color that it means something? Please get a grip on reality.

Indeed, people over-analyze stuff and make some really weird conclusions, I doubt Lady Dynamite had a meaning to it, besides the obvious one (ie women being able to be themselves in company of gays etc.).

NintendoHTF1242 5th June 2010 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2378640)
but i do like the song xD

Oh I read it as you didn't like the song ahahah. My bad xP

Ranma Matsuri 10th June 2010 02:29 AM

@LUOYUXIANG: Yes, a few topics have been made about it and moved to the trash bin. I guess because the threads tended to get out of hand or something so please don't bring it up and get this thread trashed as well.

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2379369)
The bathroom scenes don't mean anything. They were just showing the club and a different room in it. Sometimes clubs have interesting bathrooms, she was just exploiting the fact that it was a club.

That's pretty much my thoughts on the bathroom scenes as well. I barely even noticed them because really, they were nothing to get worked up over. Just shooting from different places inside the setting like they would do in any music video to change it up. Nothing more. People that think that is "vulgar" and "disgusting" seriously need to get off their righteous pedestals and come back down to earth.

I agree with you on the over-analyzing as well. While Ayu is known for doing interesting things in her PV that is meant to make you think, it doesn't apply to ALL of her PV's. Some things like BB, Startin, and LD are just meant to be taken at face value.


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