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auss246 16th July 2010 08:17 AM

I think it's definitely improved! I can hear her voice, and it sounds great! :P It all sounds perfect, and she even sounded great in BoY in my opinion!

perfectodub 16th July 2010 08:57 AM

HER voice is really really nice

the best: the Ballads segment!

the worst: STEP you (is just Ebarssing...the worst in years)

love in music 16th July 2010 09:06 AM

^ Aw I liked STEP you, I thought it was cute (the outfit was stupid though lol).
I watched the whole 2 DVD's and I just love it. My favorite performances are I am..., Moments, Because of You, You were..., Pride, until that Day..., and of course teddy bear (love the angles they used on this one too, made it even more emotional). This concert just reminded me how much I NEED to see ayu live.

fuawas 16th July 2010 10:29 AM

Now that the quality has been improved I like the concert ^^
But I'm getting tired of Ayu dressing like a schoolgirl...

agashi 16th July 2010 11:23 AM

@_@ i hate that pink fluffy alice in the wonderland costume! its too cheesy for me....and the song in that part....boring... i cant stand with her dancer act so stupidly ...XD

yep! the ballad section is the best imo~

kagami 16th July 2010 01:45 PM

Just started watching it, up to STEP you/EnergizE and....It's awesome so far! I can see why people don't like the costume for ^ but I love that kind of thing anyway and Ayu looks freaking' adorable, way better than in the pictures.:p
Can't wait to watch the rest.


Finished. Really, really good concert. Nice costumes (the dress for Pride was absoloutely gorgeous), great energy, good vocals...Only songs with not so great vocals were Humming, evolution, Sunrise and B&G, the rest were really strong. I'm really looking forward to this years tour now.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 16th July 2010 02:14 PM

I didn't find anything wrong with her cutesy performance this time. I actually genuinely enjoyed it! I mean after all, isn't this the essence of ayu?? she's always been cute and I love when she does cute performances! Really loved it.

And also, obviously in different cultures they would see it differently. In Japan acting cute or whatsoever is pretty common and popular xD I couldn't see any Japanese fan having trouble with her performing "cute".

nanakopy87 16th July 2010 02:38 PM

i just finish watching disc 2.so far,i'm impressed with Red Line only.others,are quite boring,IMO

polka-dot-jewel 16th July 2010 09:29 PM

I watched the making of a while ago, and that was awesome =D

The sound has DEFINITELY improved. At least, in the "I am..." performance =D I have a question about that performance, though (if anyone has it on their computer, I'm talking about the part between 7:20 and 7:24)... is she lip-synching right there? I'm probably starting a huge debate by bringing this up, and I do apologize, but that part right there just stumped me.

pommy48 16th July 2010 09:33 PM

Lol you mean the sound coming out is "te", but her mouth is in the shape of "o"?

but she is supposed to sing "sagashite'ru" there......@_@ I'm stumped too :thud

truehappiness 17th July 2010 02:31 AM

Quote:

The sound has DEFINITELY improved. At least, in the "I am..." performance =D I have a question about that performance, though (if anyone has it on their computer, I'm talking about the part between 7:20 and 7:24)... is she lip-synching right there? I'm probably starting a huge debate by bringing this up, and I do apologize, but that part right there just stumped me.
I don't think so... looking at my TV version, the sound is just so BAD after hearing the DVD one. If it is edited, it's probably done in post production.

(From what I can hear though, it wasn't changed from TV -> DVD... but the TV version had a SUPER PANNED OUT SHOT.)

SURREAL__RAINBOW 17th July 2010 02:40 AM

what part exactly?? i didnt notice lol

perfectodub 17th July 2010 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by polka-dot-jewel (Post 2428484)
I watched the making of a while ago, and that was awesome =D

The sound has DEFINITELY improved. At least, in the "I am..." performance =D I have a question about that performance, though (if anyone has it on their computer, I'm talking about the part between 7:20 and 7:24)... is she lip-synching right there? I'm probably starting a huge debate by bringing this up, and I do apologize, but that part right there just stumped me.

you right..I am... Look really on live..but that couple of seconds her lips don't fit with the word.
her lips says "RUUUU" but the voice says "RAAAAA"
the concert is almost fully on live
except for some lipsync:

STEP you
rolling
1LOVE
Until The Day


is a low perfil concert..but really good anyway :D

truehappiness 17th July 2010 02:47 AM

It's the first time she sings "sagashiteruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu" or whatever.

(The second time is in the last line of the song.)

It looks like her mouth is in an "O" shape but some other sound is coming out.... or at least, it appears to be that way.

HTMSD 17th July 2010 02:48 AM

just finished watching the MKV files, I just have to admit, even it's heavily edited, BUT, all the performance... GREAT d(>.<)b Seems like I've need to buy the OS version, sigh...

maikaru 17th July 2010 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polka-dot-jewel (Post 2428484)
I watched the making of a while ago, and that was awesome =D

The sound has DEFINITELY improved. At least, in the "I am..." performance =D I have a question about that performance, though (if anyone has it on their computer, I'm talking about the part between 7:20 and 7:24)... is she lip-synching right there? I'm probably starting a huge debate by bringing this up, and I do apologize, but that part right there just stumped me.

I understand what you are talking about,
Usually she makes that mouth movement when a very deep uu like in the word "you."
But it sounded like it needs to be created with a very open mouth...

Actually, in the TV version, it's almost obvious she is lipsyncing, because she mouth the wrong word.

"hibi no saki ni wa nani ga arimasu ka" is supposed to be the right,
but it looks like she sings "hibi no saki ni wa donna arimasu ka."

If I am... really is lipsynced, I understand. It's a very hard song, and maybe she was on the rampage at that time saying she wanted to protect her voice, and if you listen to the documentary's singing, you can tell she is much better in studio, because she can hear herself clearly.

However, I was really confused, because when she is singing the last part of I am..., the computerized voice part, you can clearly see her throat muscles dropping after the voice is finished, which I think could only be done when someone stops singing... so... I am so confused LOL.

I honestly don't think many of the other songs are lipsynced. Of course, the always suspicious songs like STEP you and Until that day... are present, but because she is singing Until that day... live in Rock' N' Roll tour for sure, I wouldn't be quick to judge it lipsynced in the cdl.

1 Love, I think it's live. The key is raised at least one semitone, and I don't see the point of that unless it's to allow her to sing the song live. It sounds better and more comfortable in the new key, for some reason. I think they should have done that to Startin' too, it's much too low for her. Horrible way to end a live, btw, with Startin'. LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectodub (Post 2428728)
you right..I am... Look really on live..but that couple of seconds her lips don't fit with the word.
her lips says "RUUUU" but the voice says "RAAAAA"
the concert is almost fully on live
except for some lipsync:

STEP you
rolling
1LOVE
Until The Day


is a low perfil concert..but really good anyway :D

maybe we are watching a different concert than each other,
But rollin' isn't part of the set list for CDL in my dvd.

kagami 17th July 2010 06:01 AM

I am...didn't look lipsynched to me. The last note people are talking about isn't strange to me at all, I can make the same sound with my mouth in the same way she had hers. It's more to do with what happens in your throat. Considering I am...was probably one of the poorer vocal performances from this live (still thought it was powerful though) it wouldn't make sense for it to be lipsynched imo.

love in music 17th July 2010 06:06 AM

I noticed the I am... thing but, do they take footage from both dates? Could they have used the audio from the 2nd date but messed up and put some footage from that part during the first date where she sang it differently?

kagami 17th July 2010 06:25 AM

^It's possible. I think that kind of thing happens are fair amount.

Rocky Raven 17th July 2010 06:30 AM

The worst thing about this CDL concert is the part where she TRIED SO HARD TO ACT LIKE A LIITLE GIRL with that what the Pinky costume. It's horrible and ruins the whole beautiful japanese-spirit opening section. I wish she could watch herself in someone else's eyes... she's 31, a real j-pop diva and not some random otaku-chick out there. Gosh.
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9...1712h35m30.png
And I know that this is not her first time doing something like that on her CDL =-=

The best to me: the Opening n Ballads segment!


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